Mayhems Chameleon

Well this is a project ive been working on some time and is now officially called Mayhems Chameleon.

In some sense its still in its early testing stages and very much like aurora is a fluid based on mainly looks.

This is a Thermal reactive coolant that will change colour depending on temps in the water cooling system.

Some pics below

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7813/img1536i.jpg
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http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg716...pg&res=landing


First samples will be hitting testers soon.

A early pre-View vid was posted on YT here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCElAkPUBuI

Before comments about boiling water appear below the water was only 40c and the liquid being tested changed colour at 28 to 31c how ever the ambient temp was 5c at the time. Hence we got steam ... The new version of the liquids the temp change is different and we can do many different colours.

This is a nano fluid based on 4 different technology's all combined into 1.

Boiling point 100c
Viscosity - haha you'll be surprised
How long will it last - we have not got a clue as of yet but its doing pretty well
UV active - No , never will be and cannot be used with UV leds.
ETA - give me a brake
Cost - Aint got a bloody clue
Am i mad - yes
Can i have some for testing - No not yet ...!!!!
Does it contain inhibitors - yes
Does it contain biocide - Yes
Does it contain Glycol - No
Will it clog a block - we do not know as of yet this is being tested
Will it work in a impingement block - we do not as of yet

Wow! That's special. I could see blue liquid turning red at a predetermined temperature.

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Boiling point 100c
Viscosity - haha you'll be surprised
How long will it last - we have not got a clue as of yet but its doing pretty well
UV active - No , never will be and cannot be used with UV leds.
ETA - give me a brake
Cost - Aint got a bloody clue
Am i mad - yes
Can i have some for testing - No not yet ...!!!!
Does it contain inhibitors - yes
Does it contain biocide - Yes
Does it contain Glycol - No
Will it clog a block - we do not know as of yet this is being tested
Will it work in a impingement block - we do not as of yet

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So is that a good surprise on viscosity or is it as thick as a good milkshake?

"ETA" - http://www.brakesmiami.com/images/car-brakes.jpg


(All in good fun :))

No its not thick its a tiny bit above water so all is good. Thks for the brake that will come in handy :).

Woohoo... That purple shade is astonishing! Elwynn Forest like! Love it! :)

And for your next trick id like some thats clear and becomes coloured at temperature plz! :lol:

Very impressive!

So, we spend years figuring out that putting extraneous stuff into our loops is a bad idea and now you release new "gunk" almost every month?

I sorta liked what you were doing with your dyes, testing them extensively to show/prove that they rarely separate/clog the system, but everything after that :shakes:

Its for bling and show rigs, what's the problem? Daresay its within 3 to 5c of Ultra Pure anyway. My mrs will love that colour changing pink, do you think she cares if it runs a bit warmer?

Id be shocked if its marketed as a performance product anyway.

@schoolslave - None of our products gunk unless you do not know what you are doing. All the products we do are tested more than ever with reliable and trusted testers and our own testing equipment have moved up quite a few notches. I just don't have the time to publish every test we do, put up all the figures, Do comparisons, and general type bull to keep people interested.

All our products have the correct information for them to use the products and we don't mess around and let every one know what is good for what and what is not. In fact when it comes to honesty i should have a halo over my head.

Our support all so is priority and on the ball now a days (some times we still get it wrong though). Things have changed a lot with mayhems and with the immanent release of new rads and bench tables (but not as you know it) i think personally were doing pretty dammed well.

In fact i think Mayhems have given some thing to the community that has been missing in a long time and we have opened the market up even further and I personally intend on making sure it carries on. If you do not like what we do thats your own problem not mine because i can give you 25,000+ reasons why you might be wrong.

Now this is awesome! :cool:

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

i can give you 25,000+ reasons

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Go on...



;)

Pump clogged in 3.....2.......1.......BOOM! Overheat failure :D

Considering that's basically just Ice Dragon with a new dye, I'd say most of the comments here are moot. Mick does know what he's doing. I've had some long and rather interesting conversations with him, and he's no dope. If he figured out how to suspend glitter in a loop and keep it from damaging a pump, this should be no problem.

Some lucky tester getting there first samples next week.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1084/img1860rh.jpg

You can see the new see though stickers we will be using on all our products from now. Stop them wrinkling up when the bottles get bashed about.

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

Some lucky tester getting there first samples next week.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1084/img1860rh.jpg

You can see the new see though stickers we will be using on all our products from now. Stop them wrinkling up when the bottles get bashed about.

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Best get them out to me soon Mick...

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

Some lucky tester getting there first samples next week.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1084/img1860rh.jpg

You can see the new see though stickers we will be using on all our products from now. Stop them wrinkling up when the bottles get bashed about.

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Best get them out to me soon Mick...

lol ... Tues next week they should be with you :).

Tester testing the fluids in a live system ->

http://i.imgur.com/X3Scz.jpg

And now for something completely different.....I love it!

Te colour before hand is purple as pictured above then this is the change colour "Blue" ...

Sorry we cannot give much info on what were doing and how were doing it ect ect. But this is a more of a "Yes its seems to going oky at the moment but still needs more work" ...

Tell me something, what's your objective with this ? I've seen what the liquid it self can do but, your objective is:

1) Have a WC that has one color when the PC is shutdown and another one when it is running.

2) Have a liquid that will change color while the PC is running aka, parts of the loop purple parts of it blue ( for exemple )

3) None of the above, if so what's the objective ?


I don't want you to enter in to details, but if you are going for option 2) do you think that the liquid will be able to change color with .5 // 1ºC temp differences ? Because that's gonna be what most loops will have. Btw I'll understand if you don't answer this, will the liquid have a linear behaviour or more like a hysteresis one ?

The liquid will be realised on a sliding scale. Meaning you choose what temp it will start to change at. So if you what to change from tuning off and on or if it changes when on and the systems heats up say playing a game.

e.g

25c to 27c
27c to 30c
30c to 33c
33c to 36c

The colour change is 99% accurate

The tester is an XS user, isn't he? I think that computer is B NEGATIVE's Pipebomb.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...light=pipebomb

Yes B-Neg is one of my testers for our products. He the best sort of tester you can have "brutal and to the point" .... I trust if there is a problem he wont hold back :) same as my other testers.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5271/img1996o.jpg

Some one might work out i was in a rush and put some thing on back to front pmsl

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

The liquid will be realised on a sliding scale. Meaning you choose what temp it will start to change at. So if you what to change from tuning off and on or if it changes when on and the systems heats up say playing a game.

e.g

25c to 27c
27c to 30c
30c to 33c
33c to 36c

The colour change is 99% accurate

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Good job, I wouldn't have thought it would be possible to do it on such a tight scale.

Oh yeh :)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5886/img2001wr.jpg

This for e.g is 27 to 30c

We got the nano size down to 10nm how ever i have sitting on my desk some 40nm size as well. We do not know though if this will ever hit the public domain at 40nm due to the cost involved.

A note to users though. Most if you will never see the reaction above it will be a smooth move from one colour to the next. The effect above is done by me slowing the pump right down on edge and its not recommend any one does this.

Well when I saw the 1st rig pics slowing down the pump came to my mind, it isn't "normal" to have a 2ºC delt inside a component... Glad you came out and deliver that infor right way ;)

What I can't say bad thing about it's the looks, as a liquid used for demo rigs it shall look amazing! The color gradient formed must be the wet dreams of many builders when presenting their rigs to the general public. And ofc when doing that you'll for sure slow down your pump to get such an amazing efect.

@mlwood

Would you mind to post some pigs at regular pumping speeds ( aka 100% of a jigway for exemple ) ?

When i get time ill do a video of it at regular pump speeds. The colour just looks the same and merges from pink to white or Purple to Blue over an amount of time (depending on temps).

very impressive

A question: Based on your fluid is Ice Dragon ?

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

The liquid will be realised on a sliding scale. Meaning you choose what temp it will start to change at. So if you what to change from tuning off and on or if it changes when on and the systems heats up say playing a game.

e.g

25c to 27c
27c to 30c
30c to 33c
33c to 36c

The colour change is 99% accurate

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So when someone orders the mix they can specify which temperatures the liquid will change at? Would we be able to choose the colors as well? I'm guessing it'd be pretty pricy for such a custom dye, but that's a very one-of-a-kind matte-looking liquid.

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

Oh yeh :)

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This for e.g is 27 to 30c

We got the nano size down to 10nm how ever i have sitting on my desk some 40nm size as well. We do not know though if this will ever hit the public domain at 40nm due to the cost involved.

A note to users though. Most if you will never see the reaction above it will be a smooth move from one colour to the next. The effect above is done by me slowing the pump right down on edge and its not recommend any one does this.

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Is it just me, or is that a color shift after the GPU? If so, you could potentially two-tone a loop!

We still working on the fluids but more info will come forth when were ready.

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slowly getting there

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I wonder if there is some way to have one chameleon fluid and to be able to "regulate" it's color change temp point with whatever means by user?
Also i somewhat see need to artificially worsen or enhance cooling (with regulating fans/pumping power), if ambient room temps fluctuate :/
In general idea/realisation of color changing by temps seems very cool to me :up:, but imho practical realisation with need to change to different fluid with summer or winter temps or with different temps at night/day might bring too much hassle in real life unless room temps are constant throughout all the year with use of some conditioner or alike, which might greatily reduce target market niche. :(
I wander if some of my following ideas might work:
Eg. is it possible to move color change point by pressure in loop and add some regulating valve in place of some fitting? Or .. dunno .. passing different regulatable weak current through fluid for same result of moving color change temp point? (might introduce extra corrosion?)
Or rather drop idea of fluid changing itself, and release another product: some led strip that can be put inside tubing to light up from inside fluid, with changing it's brightness by temps measured by thermal probe screwed in on block outlet.

its some thing i was chatting to some one about how ever getting some thing like that to work is on another level to what we can do at the moment. Were working with a few companies to get the new mixes right and there going out there way as it is to get the base produces down to the sizes we need for it to effectively work in a loop. If we were not dealing with restrictive systems and micro channels then it would make life much easier how ever with the trends in water cooling changing so much we have to move rapidly with in the constraints of the other users and manufacturers. Im sure as time progresses we can evolve further.

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Originally Posted by churchy

I wonder if there is some way to have one chameleon fluid and to be able to "regulate" it's color change temp point with whatever means by user?
Also i somewhat see need to artificially worsen or enhance cooling (with regulating fans/pumping power), if ambient room temps fluctuate :/
In general idea/realisation of color changing by temps seems very cool to me :up:, but imho practical realisation with need to change to different fluid with summer or winter temps or with different temps at night/day might bring too much hassle in real life unless room temps are constant throughout all the year with use of some conditioner or alike, which might greatily reduce target market niche. :(
I wander if some of my following ideas might work:
Eg. is it possible to move color change point by pressure in loop and add some regulating valve in place of some fitting? Or .. dunno .. passing different regulatable weak current through fluid for same result of moving color change temp point? (might introduce extra corrosion?)
Or rather drop idea of fluid changing itself, and release another product: some led strip that can be put inside tubing to light up from inside fluid, with changing it's brightness by temps measured by thermal probe screwed in on block outlet.

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Judging from the apparent "thickness" of the dye (I know it's not really any thicker water), this is not a long term fluid. This is something a person would use in a show computer on display for a few weeks.

Worrying about summer temps vs. winter temps isn't really a consideration for a dye of this kind.

@earthwormjim actually the new fluids are being created to be long term. Unlike aurora which is short term at the moment. We have over 6 new technology's were testing in the new mixes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IId0hLoZqs

again a new product in dev

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/581/mayhems.jpg

The whole test system is passed though 2 test rads (qaud pass) and a EK block with the worst restriction plate we could find and a long tube res laid flat (checking to see how the liquid reacts having plenty of places to lay) Due to some systems not working with aurora this is a totally new mix built from the ground up to fix these problems wich all so is thermo reactive.

Will this stuff work with an Apogee Drive II?

These new version were aiming for it to work in every thing. @hi Kayin