The Mayhems Dye Experience

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To dye, or not to dye, that is the question.

Luckily there are many options for us today to get that, "custom look". From colored tubing, to uv reactive tubing. From dyes, to uv reactive dyes, to milk like substances. Personally I've always preferred the minimalist look of black tubing but decided to try out "pretty" water cooling for a change. Having experimented lightly with Feser One I was really turned off at the whole dye idea. After only one week of using Feser One I had muck in my water block, here is the link.

Not too long after the Feser disaster I found Mayhems Dye. A Pure Dye without any of the additives that clog up your loop. So I decided to put this to the test. I've been running 20 drops of Mayhems Red + a couple drops of PT-Nuke Biocide for the past month with no buildup or gummy mess what-so-ever. Nothing in the CPU block and nothing in the GPU Block. 30 days later its still clean and red like the very first day. I am very impressed with this dye so far, to say the least.


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Mick from Mayhems Dye was kind enough to send me a few samples to test. Deep Blue, Deep Purple, Red, UV Pink, UV Yellow Green, and UV Clear Blue. I could sit here and try to describe these dyes but I thought it better to make a few short videos for your enjoyment. 20 drops of each dye in 1.5 liters of water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emjg3mWy1Lo

And a few more fun videos ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UFTRTjy4gQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnbGnD3krxg&feature=related

All in all, it really comes down to preference. Colored tube or dye, its your choice. After my personal experience, I have nothing but good things to say about Mayhems Dye. A great product from a highly dependable and very reachable vendor. Honestly, it doesn't get any better than that. :up:


OCM :cool:

I would personally like to thank OCM for taking the time to do this. Not often people take the time to review such a small and cheap product that does have a massive impact on the over all presentation of a water cooling system.

thank you from Mayhem's

:).

Nice videos.

Very nice mini review brother, loving the video n'd music it's very specific and great example!

gonna give it a try when i get some down time on hand

wish you had some red stuff on video cuz i am a huge red fan i think like somewhere around 4~5 drops of it would be enough to make my rig look nice

keep it up!

Great well shot videos showing off nuances of dye usage (different concentration/lightning affect on looks and such). :up:

A bit offtopic question .. if mlwood as individual was able to produce such quality product with investing his time into testing to make these deyes .. why a heck bigger vendors like mentioned Feser weren't able to, given that usually those have more resources like time/money and so on to make theirs? They could have bought better & more expensive instruments, could have set up more test loops, probably had access to wider selection of colouring pigments to try out, could have allocate more human resources .. but judging by results - they didn't :/

Because mlwood went out of his way to locate chemicals for dye that aren't as easy to get your hands on as the junk in Feser. His dye formulas are above and beyond better than anything I know of in general, but getting his chemicals is apparently only possible in the UK and you need a chemist's knowledge, not a marketer's.

I only wish his dyes were more widely available stateside.

I have tested now in access of 260+ dyes out of them i have a total of only 12 dyes i use. Some are still under test such as orange, Black and some others. (this is now going into my 3rd year of testing)

All the dyes , liquids every thing i test and try to make takes a lot of time and effort to make. Mayhem's was never supposed to happen it all started on OC3D a few years back when i was getting sick of buying sub standard coloured coolants. I went out hunted down makers of dyes and then started to look into it all. The initial investment was only £5.00.

I then sent some out to mates who went nuts and gradual every thing has expanded to were I buy all the raw chemicals in, I make our own ultra pure H20, I make coolants that sell out in the UK all the time. Every thing is bought in and made from the ground up and nothing is farmed out to other companies to do it for me. So much so that i have now taken on a partner and were going to expand the company more as we have other things i would like to make but never had the chance to. Im very lucky to know a lot of people in the industry and get full support form every one. Even my re-sellers support me 100% all the time.

All i can say for the moment is that this is just the start and i intend for us to come up with more stuff for every one. I Love the fact that people like I&H , Frozen Q, Ice Dragon cooling all come up with there very own products that make larger companies sit back and take note. I don't think any us are in it just for the money (i know im not) but for the love of our hobble. I have had two companies offer to literary take me on or by me out with some amazing terms and both times i have turned them down. I could now be sitting pretty on a rather large amount of money but i am happy the way things are.

Mayhems is British and will stay British and i will carry on my hardest to make sure every thing i do is up to standard. I do make the odd mistake now and then and try my best to rectify all problems asap. I have my haters on a certain site but you know what. every time he gobs off i sell more :) wich makes me chuckle.

This hobby is fantastic and the communality that surrounds it brings many people in from all walks of life lets keep it that way ... :)

Just wish there were less haters in it but "say la vie" (how ever its spelt) .......

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

I have tested now in access of 260+ dyes out of them i have a total of only 12 dyes i use. Some are still under test such as orange, Black and some others. (this is now going into my 3rd year of testing)

All the dyes , liquids every thing i test and try to make takes a lot of time and effort to make. Mayhem's was never supposed to happen it all started on OC3D a few years back when i was getting sick of buying sub standard coloured coolants. I went out hunted down makers of dyes and then started to look into it all. The initial investment was only £5.00.

I then sent some out to mates who went nuts and gradual every thing has expanded to were I buy all the raw chemicals in, I make our own ultra pure H20, I make coolants that sell out in the UK all the time. Every thing is bought in and made from the ground up and nothing is farmed out to other companies to do it for me. So much so that i have now taken on a partner and were going to expand the company more as we have other things i would like to make but never had the chance to. Im very lucky to know a lot of people in the industry and get full support form every one. Even my re-sellers support me 100% all the time.

All i can say for the moment is that this is just the start and i intend for us to come up with more stuff for every one. I Love the fact that people like I&H , Frozen Q, Ice Dragon cooling all come up with there very own products that make larger companies sit back and take note. I don't think any us are in it just for the money (i know im not) but for the love of our hobble. I have had two companies offer to literary take me on or by me out with some amazing terms and both times i have turned them down. I could now be sitting pretty on a rather large amount of money but i am happy the way things are.

Mayhems is British and will stay British and i will carry on my hardest to make sure every thing i do is up to standard. I do make the odd mistake now and then and try my best to rectify all problems asap. I have my haters on a certain site but you know what. every time he gobs off i sell more :) wich makes me chuckle.

This hobby is fantastic and the communality that surrounds it brings many people in from all walks of life lets keep it that way ... :)

Just wish there were less haters in it but "say la vie" (how ever its spelt) .......

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Well said, and very nicely done brother OCM :)

my personal Mayhems Dye Experience, no gunk,nice colors but staining my clear tube (tygon R3606) in 2 months (but its easy to clean of with vinegar anyway and i already informed with this prob) and the color start to decay in 3rd month:)

Great presentation. Using Iffel tower for the blue song couldn't have neen more fitting too..:)

hillywav : wich colour was that, how much biocide did you use, wich biocide did you use, how much water do you have in your system. If using a silver kill coil the colour will not degrade, if you using a liquid biocide and you use say ours did you use more than 2 drops per ltr as this will happen. ect ect.

Staining it down to the amount of dye you use and you tubing.

Troll be deleted.

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

I have tested now in access of 260+ dyes out of them i have a total of only 12 dyes i use. Some are still under test such as orange, Black and some others. (this is now going into my 3rd year of testing)

All the dyes , liquids every thing i test and try to make takes a lot of time and effort to make. Mayhem's was never supposed to happen it all started on OC3D a few years back when i was getting sick of buying sub standard coloured coolants. I went out hunted down makers of dyes and then started to look into it all. The initial investment was only £5.00.

I then sent some out to mates who went nuts and gradual every thing has expanded to were I buy all the raw chemicals in, I make our own ultra pure H20, I make coolants that sell out in the UK all the time. Every thing is bought in and made from the ground up and nothing is farmed out to other companies to do it for me. So much so that i have now taken on a partner and were going to expand the company more as we have other things i would like to make but never had the chance to. Im very lucky to know a lot of people in the industry and get full support form every one. Even my re-sellers support me 100% all the time.

All i can say for the moment is that this is just the start and i intend for us to come up with more stuff for every one. I Love the fact that people like I&H , Frozen Q, Ice Dragon cooling all come up with there very own products that make larger companies sit back and take note. I don't think any us are in it just for the money (i know im not) but for the love of our hobble. I have had two companies offer to literary take me on or by me out with some amazing terms and both times i have turned them down. I could now be sitting pretty on a rather large amount of money but i am happy the way things are.

Mayhems is British and will stay British and i will carry on my hardest to make sure every thing i do is up to standard. I do make the odd mistake now and then and try my best to rectify all problems asap. I have my haters on a certain site but you know what. every time he gobs off i sell more :) wich makes me chuckle.

This hobby is fantastic and the communality that surrounds it brings many people in from all walks of life lets keep it that way ... :)

Just wish there were less haters in it but "say la vie" (how ever its spelt) .......

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Very nice videos and thanks for posting them ! :)
My favorite is the lighter blue color.

Lets stop with the trolling here please.

Lots of people use dyes and I see setups using dyes all the time. I think its great that we have a thread like this to show how it should be done the correct way using propper materials.

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

hillywav : wich colour was that, how much biocide did you use, wich biocide did you use, how much water do you have in your system. If using a silver kill coil the colour will not degrade, if you using a liquid biocide and you use say ours did you use more than 2 drops per ltr as this will happen. ect ect.
Staining it down to the amount of dye you use and you tubing.

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i'm using the deep purple ,deep blue and clear UV for my prev build and buying it from koolroom australia, i mixed 2 drops of deep blue, 4 drops of purple, and 2 drops of clear blue UV
i'm guessing the staining due to i put too much dye :( , for degrading , using silver for the biocide,i usually blame the degrading due my previous pump (dcp400 and d5) dont have enough head pressure for all of my waterblocks

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Originally Posted by mlwood37

haha show the message why dont you. Instead of just 1/2 of it . Oh hold on your in the wrong place. sorry trolls don't belong here.

sorry but if you cannot even link a post correctly in you sig i really do suggest you don't use dyes.

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huh?

No its defo not your D5 causing that.

What colour you trying to achieve it sounds like black to me. If you after black you need Deer purple + Yellow. You only need a couple of drops of yellow to achieve black from that. Purple and blue are contrasting colours and wont work as effective.

Working on fixing the first video.

Been wokring fine in the UK. Must be the USA thats got the copyright claim on it.

Yep, fixed. Enjoy :)

I've had Mayhem's mixed with some of our Coolant running in a computer here for over a year without any trouble at all..Color still looks great..

Nice. I'm hooked! :D
Lately I started thinking of using some other coolant (IceDragon to be exact) than just plain distilled. Now I'm gonna have to think of using the dye too. Deep purple and yellow-green are my kind of colors. Thanks for posting this.

Didn't know it's safe to use IceDragon Coolant with Mayhems Dye. Good to know it. :up:

Mayhems UV pink in my loop (Im loving it so far):

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@Mick
Do you have any picture of the UV green vs UV green/yellow? cant seem to find any to compare the two.

Ill sort some out next time i do a loop up.

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I've had Mayhem's mixed with some of our Coolant running in a computer here for over a year without any trouble at all..Color still looks great..

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It does require an extremely large amount of dye though. I used about ~600-700ml of coolant and had to use an entire small bottle of Mayhems deep blue in order to get baby blue colouring.

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It does require an extremely large amount of dye though. I used about ~600-700ml of coolant and had to use an entire small bottle of Mayhems deep blue in order to get baby blue colouring.

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no doubt about that. I have been after some dark red for a while, but I have to keep reminding myself that it is a lot of white and tiny bit of color..:)

Once ever thing is sorted at our end we will be able to create much deeper colours for IDC liquids and make them as a premix, How ever a lot is going on over here atm and i can only do one thing at a time.

Once we have the premix from IDC i will start working on them and i have to discuss the situation with my partner. One thing you need to remember is all this so far has been done on my own now i have a partner i will have more time to crack on with development and other things.

Once ever thing is sorted at our end we will be able to create much deeper colours for IDC liquids and make them as a premix, How ever a lot is going on over here atm and i can only do one thing at a time.

Once we have the premix from IDC i will start working on them and i have to discuss the situation with my partner. One thing you need to remember is all this so far has been done on my own now i have a partner i will have more time to crack on with development and other things.

you should have it monday..soon at least.. I will put up some colors this week when I have some time to mix some up..

so some mayhems and a silver kill coil is all we need? I got colored tubing bacause of horror stories and high maintenance, but was thinking it might be nice to add some color to be seen in the res. Just looking at options. thanks

The following loop was used for pretty much exactly 3 months. Never turned off. CPU ran full load 24/7. The coolant used was Ice Dragon Cooling nanofluid. It had an entire 5ml bottle of Mayhems dye plus about 25ml of Feser clear UV dye. There was a lot of sediment in the bottom of the bowl after draining the loop. As well as some inside the CPU block. Doesn't look like it had anything to do w/ the coolant or dye though. More than likely debris from the radiator. There was a clear hard piece of something on the block (to the right hand side in the pic). Not sure what it was. But there was no signs of any bad gunking like we have seen in the past. Which I personally think is caused by plasticizer in tubing. I will be using the same used coolant (plus adding more dye :p:) in an upcoming loop. This time it will more than likely be ~ 6 months before a tear down. I'll do my best to clean the radiators and blocks excessively to get all the debris out that I possibly can.

What the coolant looks like w/ the dye. This is about all that was used in my loop.
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What the Rasa looked like immediately after taking the loop apart.
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Block cleaned up mostly fine. The second picture shows a slight staining to the block. Ketchup was even used for cleaning.
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And in other news the search for a good clear tubing that does not cloud continues. I was told Primoflex LRT doesn't cloud. Guess that is wrong.
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So what exactly is Mayhems Pastel Concentrated? It doesn't give a very good description. Is it one bottle of the concentrate to 750ml of IDC?

How big are the bottles of the pastels?

And lets say I were to buy a bottle of Pastel Berry Blue, could I add more deep blue dye to make it darker?

There are two version of Pastel from Mayhems

What we have done is taken IDC, changed the formula a little and dyed it. (with full permission from Ice Dragon Cooling) Please remember Ice Dragon Cooling fluids is a patented fluid.

1 Ltr Pastel is a ready to go coolant, Just pour and go and comes in different colours.

250ml Pastel is a concentrated version of the 1Ltr and you add 750ml of DI water or Ultra pure to it to make it into 1 Ltr. This saves on shipping and export. Comes in different colours.

You can add as much dye as you like to the pastel range to get a much deeper colour, We are currently working on makeing the pastel range UV active as well its just taken us a little bit longer due to the time of the year. We are all so working on a pure yellow version and Pure Black version too.

Some sample pics of UV Pastel.

UV Active Green Pastel (Normal Light / UV Light)

Normal Light

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UV Light

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[img]UV Active White Pastel (normal Light / UV Light)

Normal Light

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UV Light

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We have done this at the request of some of our resellers to keep the costs as low as possible so that every one can get there hands on it and not just users who have access to us in EU.

We all so do it for the Aurora range how ever im going to look further into make Aurora even better.

We are all so working on a new liquid we've aptly named X2, this is another nano fluid that contains No dye what so ever. it will not stain, it will last upwards of 3 years in a system, it will keep glowing under UV and should never fade. Were still in the early testing stages of the liquid and it will be a while before it sees the light of day.

Some Samples pics -

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Just one of the test systems im trying to build up to test the fluids.

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The concentrated version of the pastel. Once mixed w/ distilled water is it a nanofluid similar to IDC? Is it is something completely different? Would I be able to mix it w/ the two liters I already have of Ice Dragon Cooling nanofluid?

Pastel contains IDC so i see no problem mixing it with IDC.

IDC is a mix of nano partials and fluid.

Mayhems pastel range is a mix of IDC, Inhibitors, De scalers, biocide, vegetable extract and dyes.

IDC is much thicker in looks than Mayhems pastel and looks deeper, Mayhems pastel is lighter and look more like milk.

Great info Mick. I look forward to next year as I will be building a new computer using Mayhems.

Do you have any US distributors lined up for 2012?

No when we had to close up shop for a small amount off time when i had a accident some resellers didn't get back in contact with us because they thought we had gone for good. Instead (once things were sorted) we carried on due to support from user's, buyers and re-sellers and all so took on a partner in the business. Now we thieving and doing quite well.

If I had to use liquid coloring instead of cleverly placed LED's or colored tubing, I'd choose Mayhems for sure. Thanks for posting those video's about the different kinds of coloring. Almost makes me want to go down that path again.

I have never had any problems with Mayhem's. I have a computer at the house that has been running some dyed nanofluid for almost two years with no issues at all.

see you guys at CES2012..yahoo

Thinking of getting some mayhems dye (Aurora Tharsis Red" and using it with ice dragon, just wondering if you would know what would happen if I then mixed that with some of the black dye. Trying for a red/black theme overall but if you think I shouldn't mix those two (maybe it would be to dark, idk) I will just use tharsis red. Essentially what I want is a blood red dye which the tharsis just about looks like in videos I have seen.

Was going to use EK coolant but having to wait a bit for new monsoon fittings so decided I will go with my original plan of ice dragon.

Weve got a perfect black coming out in the next two weeks. When i mean perfect i mean in the sense that its as black as iits ever gonna get. I know IDC may have some thing special coming from them soon as well :). :D:D:D