AMD Radeon Memory ???

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08-05-2011, 08:25 AM
imamage

AMD Radeon Memory ???

Just saw this one AMD website
http://www.amd.com/us/products/techn...on-memory.aspx
AMD Radeon Memory

2GB DDR3-1333 ........isn't that a tad slow to pair with APU :(:(

P.S. : The local dealer have the memory in stock , for the sake as "AMD" fan , I bought a pair , the memory chip have been marked "AMD"
I have no clue what chip they based on , btw it's single side DDR3-1333 2GB
08-05-2011, 08:32 AM
BeepBeep2

Oh dear. 1333 CL9 and 1600 CL11 @ 1.5v +- .075v

Those timings make me want to destroy things.
08-05-2011, 08:52 AM
freeloader

OMG....absolutely abysmal memory. :(
08-05-2011, 09:21 AM
SkullCracka

its all marketing just like the use to mark ram for intel or even made for crossfire...... example >>> http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=8711
08-05-2011, 09:53 AM
eXa

And not even 4gb >_<
08-05-2011, 11:35 AM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkullCracka

its all marketing just like the use to mark ram for intel or even made for crossfire...... example >>> http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=8711

DDR2 1066 CL5 is like 1600 CL7 as far as decency for the time period.

1600 CL11 is not.
08-05-2011, 07:07 PM
imamage

If AMD interested on promote the Radeon memory
I hope they should at least make use of AMD OverDrive "Black Edition Memory Profile" function
with "Performance" series ( DDR3-1600 Default SPD CL11-11-11 but B.E.M.P. should have tighter timing as "option" ) :(
08-05-2011, 07:10 PM
chew*

How about a high res shot of IC's, maybe they are just being really really conservative.
08-06-2011, 01:53 AM
imamage

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Originally Posted by chew*

How about a high res shot of IC's, maybe they are just being really really conservative.

As you requested :)
They have "remarked" the chip as "AMD"
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P.S. : It's Single Side RAM ,
08-06-2011, 02:18 AM
EniGmA1987

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Tested to the highest quality standards

Thats why it is JEDEC speeds and timings.

Also, are those Elpida chips maybe?
08-06-2011, 03:00 AM
El Gappo

Ewwwwwww, you really don't want to be pairing that stuff with an APU.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniGmA1987

Thats why it is JEDEC speeds and timings.

Also, are those Elpida chips maybe?

They sure look like it.
08-07-2011, 03:41 AM
Smartidiot89

Doesn't surprise me at all AMD follows JEDEC standards.
08-07-2011, 09:36 PM
PatRaceTin

hmmmmmmmmmmm did anyone test it yet?
08-08-2011, 01:41 AM
undone

AMD want to enter memory market segment though. Wish they release more powerful and compatible APU memory later.
08-08-2011, 10:20 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatRaceTin

hmmmmmmmmmmm did anyone test it yet?

I have a pair , IMHO it's just regular DDR3-1333 , I can't get it stable at DDR3-1600 (w/ CL11-11-11 ... doesn't work , memtest Fail after 5% )
My Transcend DDR3-1333 4GB (Hyrix chipset) perform better than the AMD pair
at least the 4GB pair run fine with DDR3-1600 CL9 :rofl:
08-08-2011, 10:22 AM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I have a pair , IMHO it's just regular DDR3-1333 , I can't get it stable at DDR3-1600 (w/ CL11-11-11 ... doesn't work , memtest Fail after 5% )

Not stable at 1600 11-11-11?

That's got to be the worst ram I've ever seen. That's worse than not being able to stabilize DDR2 at 800 5-5-5
08-08-2011, 01:23 PM
Don_Dan

The chips look like Elpida OEM chips, and the PCB is the JEDEC reference PCB.

And you can't even get your kit stable at 800MHz CL11? Wow.
08-08-2011, 01:43 PM
G.Foyle

PCB looks like JEDEC reference, Kingston was (is?) using it too.
08-08-2011, 02:03 PM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Foyle

PCB looks like JEDEC reference, Kingston was (is?) using it too.

Yes, you're right. After looking through some of the pics I've collected a blue version of this PCB is used for Elpida and Hynix memory as well, not only Kingston value RAM.

Edited my first post.
08-08-2011, 05:49 PM
ASharp

NCIX has these modules for $10 for 2GB if any Canadians want to get their hands on some.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62322
08-08-2011, 08:00 PM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Not stable at 1600 11-11-11?

That's got to be the worst ram I've ever seen. That's worse than not being able to stabilize DDR2 at 800 5-5-5

I have no clue , maybe my Crosshair V doesn't really match up ( I can't get decent memory clock with my PSC based GEIL EVO Two , weird BIOS)
The funny part is, even my Transcend 4GB DDR3-1333 (Hyrix) perform better :up:

I may try the ram again on other board, maybe try again with F1A75-V PRO with APU
08-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Dumo

Perfect for daily 24/7 rig...$40 for 8GB:)
08-08-2011, 08:38 PM
verndewd

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I have no clue , maybe my Crosshair V doesn't really match up ( I can't get decent memory clock with my PSC based GEIL EVO Two , weird BIOS)
The funny part is, even my Transcend 4GB DDR3-1333 (Hyrix) perform better :up:

I may try the ram again on other board, maybe try again with F1A75-V PRO with APU

990 chipset?
isnt crosshairv an 890?

just saying you may have a good point there.

what I dug up
AMD partnered with virage logic in 2010 just before synopsis bought them.
AMD was using embedded memory designs for their chips, likely the APU faire.

http://www.synopsys.com/Solutions/In...s/default.aspx

looks like synopsis bought virage

so heres my take. AMD gets synopsis to design a memory with the consideration of APU through put.
take some DDR3 adust a few things here and there and slap a brand on it becuase at some level AMD had to make design proposals and changes. They didnt have to reinvent the wheel they just went to a wheel maker with some design modifications.
either that or its quimonda Its very hard to find tsmc memory partners.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=tsmc%20...B&PC=BB07&QS=n

http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/...deal&num=12621
qualcomm partners with GF for memory at smaller nodes.

http://www.globalfoundries.com/design/memory_ip.aspx

virage in both camps.

They wont go out of house for APU specific memory, its not efficient.
But the integration of virage embedded, and in house ram makers explains the initial offering.
They want entry level stability hence its freaking cheap ram.
we could see a later evolution thats more tweakable, so,,,, the silent debut.
08-09-2011, 04:38 AM
undone

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I have a pair

How much?:eek:
08-09-2011, 05:01 AM
eXa

Crosshair IV is 890FX and V is 990FX
08-09-2011, 08:21 PM
imamage

$120 hkd = ~ $15 usd
08-09-2011, 08:47 PM
Poci

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I have a pair , IMHO it's just regular DDR3-1333 , I can't get it stable at DDR3-1600 (w/ CL11-11-11 ... doesn't work , memtest Fail after 5% )
My Transcend DDR3-1333 4GB (Hyrix chipset) perform better than the AMD pair
at least the 4GB pair run fine with DDR3-1600 CL9 :rofl:

Hynix chips on the dimms are usually a sign of very high quality. THey used to be called Hyundai if I remember correctly and am not mistaken. Even better then sammys chips
08-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Poci

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

As you requested :)
They have "remarked" the chip as "AMD"
Attachment 118675 Attachment 118676 Attachment 118677 Attachment 118678 Attachment 118679

P.S. : It's Single Side RAM ,

Hmm, wheres the ns ratings on the chips themselves? On older ram it would say -2 for example, now it seems with DDR3 all these numbers and different manufacturers put the ns rating whereever they want. So whats the ns rating on those chips?
08-16-2011, 05:49 AM
DarthElvis

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASharp

NCIX has these modules for $10 for 2GB if any Canadians want to get their hands on some.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62322

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty memory or not, what do you expect for $5/GB ?
11-19-2011, 06:35 AM
imamage

Sorry to push up this old thread

I just found out the local dealer have these "new" stuff come in
http://www.xander.com.hk/product.php...1#page=feature
Another type of AMD Radeon Memory ???

IMHO , the red heatsink kinda cool , I wish they won't charge a lot for that :(
Probably go grab a pair of 4GB DDR3-1600 "AMD" Memory just for the sake of it
11-19-2011, 08:36 AM
undone

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

Sorry to push up this old thread

I just found out the local dealer have these "new" stuff come in
http://www.xander.com.hk/product.php...1#page=feature
Another type of AMD Radeon Memory ???

IMHO , the red heatsink kinda cool , I wish they won't charge a lot for that :(
Probably go grab a pair of 4GB DDR3-1600 "AMD" Memory just for the sake of it

Hope amd release more faster RAM in near future. Trinity with 2000mhz RAM is nice.
12-15-2011, 08:02 AM
imamage

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Sorry to bump an old thread

The friendly local store just have these AMD Memory in stock
and I grab a pair of 4GB DDR3-1600 (CL9-9-9-28 , 1.5V rated in SPD )

The memory was made by Patriot , I have no clue what kind of chip is that but it doesn't clock well
Pushing tight CL won't even boot with my TA870 (DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-28 no POST , CL8-9-8 does boot up at BIOS but can't enter Windows 7, only showing a BSoD )

I guess if you want a good memory to overclock with , these pair wasn't a good choice
however the price is a bargain , so I guess I just drop them in with my APU ITX rig (as I don't need any overclocking)

The 4GB DDR3-1600 itself cost $160 HKD (~20 USD)
http://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachmen...c3723621e6.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachmen...d083fd6a3d.jpg
12-21-2011, 04:22 AM
BeepBeep2

If they do 1600 9-9-9 for $20 USD, I think they are a good deal...