As the title states, haven't been keeping track, whats the current Llano top 3d scores atm? Hwbot is useless to search not to mention doesn't have the "best" scores posted to my knowledge.
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As the title states, haven't been keeping track, whats the current Llano top 3d scores atm? Hwbot is useless to search not to mention doesn't have the "best" scores posted to my knowledge.
im betting its over 9000
yes i just wasted a post, sorry
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/...ed-GPUs-3.jpg/ this is last ive seen. doesnt look to hard to beat.
Tweaktown claimed higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
Well the highest I can find is 62XX at 900 core.......next lowest is 61XX at 870 core.
Here's a starter for now, 750 core Gigabyte A75-UD4H
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...%20vantage.png
P6400 in the link below on a an ASUS F1A75-M Pro. 1.476V, air cooling.
http://www.pt1t.eu/?p=368
Guess I will push some more than.....My gpu sux.
Thx for link he was at 888 gpu versus my 750, shows whats effecienct and what isn't ;)
Vcore is irrelavant.......I can run 1.375 at 3.7
Ran some 3d 11,
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...igp%203d11.png
Nice runs:up:
Will torture mine soon:D
Looks like the LLano Vantage record got rick rolled.
755 core and look at that vcore.......
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...antage%202.png
Here's mine. 900 core, 2400 mem.
may still have some potential...
I wanna play too :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55589/llano_vantage_p6337.png
I think, here is some strange....Chews* score with lower GPU clocks is better than 900 Royalk...or this is only better RAM timings efectivity?
Faster clocks are not always faster ;) Run whats fast.....not what you think is fast.
Brian, what mobo is that?
More scores to show consistent scaling in all benches not just one random bugged bench..........Please refrain from wasting my time/questioning my results.......it's pointless. I'm well aware of what is and is not bugged and refrain from posting stuff like that ;)
AFAIK these are all top Llano scores.......
3d05
-nosysteminfo used ( bench not launching without it ) oopsed on the score/gt's good thing this is just me having fun.....score is 20,873 http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/amd...203d05%201.png
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/amd...203d05%201.png
3d06
-nosysteminfo used ( bench not launching without it )
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/amd...203d06%201.png
Heaven just for kicks
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...lrg_heaven.png
3d11
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d11%203.png
vantage
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...antage%206.png
Giga UD4H I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Foyle
Ram plays a massive roleQuote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Default fail safe settings
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/739...gefailsafe.png
Optimized default
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9...ntagestock.png
With the base clock ramped up, gpu, nb and cpu as close to stock as it can go.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9...estock2240.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Hey,
what tweak did you use for that ? Could you test with Retail CPU because there is something different between ES and Retail on the synch of IGP/APU.
Here system info works for both 2k5 and 2k6 on UD4H and Asus boards :)
Buy me one..., I use what i have big guy, and this is not why my scores are like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
LLano is sensitive, scores plummet when not tuned perfectly, they also throttle which it's not as likely to happen on phase change ;)
It Throttle for sure, somethimes i cant do 5s vantage with 145 apu and with same settings it can pass to 150. What do you know about CB ? ... i dont want to mount cascade on it for nothing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Try this on ES http://www.pt1t.eu/public/Pt1t_EU/24.../GpuSensor.rar
No cold bug Pt1t but voltage won't help much. GPU scales cold decent, cpu scales cold but keep it around 1.7, I tried 1.9 on this chip and I think it degraded a tad.
Expect 4.9-5.2 full pot around 1.7v (vantage cpu test mind you ) DI temps won't gain you much over phase.
I get weird issues when all devices are disabled as far as system info goes, had the same issue with R3E if sound was disabled, tried enabling sound on this board, no luck. 03 won't even run, I get the load picture then a white screen and app crash atm.
nice efficiency as per usual :)
Some interesting info and food for thought.
Not to keen on the actual specs of the laptops but this is the 6620D? I'm assuming just higher ref clocks.
It should put some perspective on my results versus other users results........
From what I gather my guess is it's slightly higher clocked gpu with Gddr 5 and density of ( 1 gig ) , so the key to higher performance is via ram on desktops.
Curiosity has me wondering if we may see main board models similar to previous IGP NB boards with a small amount of Gddr 5, seems that would certianly boost performance quite a bit......
Source
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-p...t7738781result
Result
http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3342821;jsess...h58VLYkFyHEKDA
As you can see by this result Gddr 5 gives game test 2 a significant boost that even I wasn't able to match oced.
I would treat desktop models just like a 4850 in terms of ocing it, without ram at 1200 or higher core speeds will be pointless up to a certain point.
700$ for a quad core laptop with dual gpu
swap out HDD for an ssd for 100$ more and then you have a perfect DTR
the fact it works very well with overclocking tools means you can adjust the cpu and get another 30 minutes of battery life out of it too.
i didnt like his limited OC though, he tested only up to 2.8ghz and i bet with a little more volts he could easily get past 3ghz, as long as nothing loads more than a few cores it wont overheat anyway.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking when doing that review. If a MFR can get sideport memory implemented it would put it head and shoulders above the rest. Not sure how it could work tho with the imc and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
wow DDR 2400 7-10-7
what VDRAM ?
Ok so some more stuff.
Numero Uno Be very very carefull with LLano on phase, just becasue you can run it does not mean your not doing damage.
1.735 just claimed this cpu right after cpu test. The IGP is actually what died, I got it to post again OCed but the screen artifacted at windows load and then it was all over.
This is actually a good thing as there were questions. What if, what if LLano's gpu was killed, would cpu clock better? Answer no it won't post....
Also answered the "what is safe voltage" I would say .200-.100 under what I was running on phase.
Now how does CPU scale benches? Not really much.
I say Dial in GPU, then ram then cpu.
A Proper 05 run now
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d05%202.png
Barely any Scaling in 06
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d06%202.png
What about volts on dice? It is a tad colder, though not much...
~1.625v max?
I tested -40 to -80 range......absolutely no gains......
You have to use one of these chips to understand......they do not scale well at all with voltage. Cold yes voltage really not. It's not linear at all.
Brute force will not work here, I tried it a few times and now have a dead chip for the sake of needing to know the limits.
Most of the scaling I found was only on LN2. Figure 3.7 avg on air they only scale to 4.2 at -40 from -40 to -190 they only scale to 4.9-5.2 range all voltages the same phase to ln2......higher volts = pissed off chip failing benches at known good speeds and possibly degraded.
So if you could get the chip 5-10c colder by using less voltage, it would be better than forcing more, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I'm worried about guys running chips 24/7, it seems due to the high idle voltages people aren't afraid to run ~1.5v in ambient temps
Time will tell.
I think the way this chip blew it was more to do with current chip was pulling at XX temps. Lower temps will lower the power consumption.
Internally cpu's are like fuses, what happens when you pull 20 amps repeatedly on a 15 amp fuse. Poof.
The way this chip died was indicative of that.
chew*: Was the chip you were using an unlocked ES, or did you have to OC using the HTRef?
I just wonder if the thing holding it back is the PCIe bus, since it's linked to the HTref as well.
EDIT: I guess my real question is, do you think unlocked multi's would open things up?
My chips unlocked, I chose/choose not to use higher multis for the sake of being fair. I am however using them ( unlocked chips) to get some things in order for some interesting software for when unlocked parts do become avail.
To answer the question no unlocked parts really won't open doors to higher clocks on air. It will help users with ram that is barely compatible with platform or boards with shoddy bios support.
Certainly more fun and info to come for LLano, stay tuned :)
Thanks man, I really had plans to buy a Llano rig to play with (and for my HTPC down the road), but decided to wait for a Black Edition...
There's no NDA on the these chips anymore right?
Could you show us what Llano can do with unlocked multis..... :D
Ok I have to edit some stuff out of the shot though......this was tested at AMD HQ with 100 ref clock.
Llano has a muti range of 16-47 normally ( for unlocked models ), and with some tricks voila 50X in vantage. :)
I might add I only tested 1 chip, sure with binning/retails better can be done.
From what I have seen this chip i have isn't really that impressive compared to others on phase with retail.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...llano%2011.png
WOW!!! :clap:
15694 CPU score.... I knew those bad boys had more in them... :p:
Thanks Bro, You've just made me feel better about waiting for a BE!
Shame you had to edit the SS, but I understand. :yepp:
ye, but that's 4 cores and 5000 MHzQuote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
I would wish better scores :)
Very nice runs!
Unfortunately there is no magic efficiency in these runs. You set IGP to 755MHz and set bclk to 150. At those settings you are running IGP around 1100HMz, which is explaining the good results :)
We could really talk about scaling, if 25% gain in IGP clockspeed would bring 80% gain in end result.
On my UD2H + retail CPU setup I can not change the IGP clockspeed value. It should work with retail, but it don't for some reason. It might be just bios issue.
So other users should try those settings and see if it works on retail setups.
Nice to see scores with ES sample, which is completely unlocked. I have not been able to test those myself unfortunately.
E:
Here is explanation for IGP clocks.
MainPLL (3600MHz) / GPU divider (default 6) = GPU clocks (default 600)
BCLK 150 = MainPLL (5400) / GPU divider 5 = GPU clocks 1080MHz
Will you be going LN2? Otherwise it doesn't matter much to you :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
Completely unlocked to 47X not 50X ;) higher than 47X is acchieved via a register change.Quote:
Originally Posted by SF3D
Chew: This chip is a 3850 ES unlocked???
technically it can't be 3850, since 3850 is not nor intended to be unlocked, it's just an ES or we can call it a A-3870 for now....Quote:
Originally Posted by cesariuth
What board are you testing with?I have no GPU multiplier in my asus A75-M-Pro :)
there is no GPU multiplier, what people seem to not realize is that there is a hidden divider based on dialed in gpu frequency, 750 has a different divider than 800, 850, 900 and so on. Like I said earlier.......Use what is fast not what you think is fast ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Btw I was not priveledged to know this info, I discovered it by testing ;) I was preety much handed Llano like all other cpu's, here's the chip learn it's secrets :yepp:
Apparently my chip is not dead, it's back to life at stock at least for now. I might have usefull info for those benching cold though. Llano's socket has a sort of flaw for cold benching. The hole in center is an air pocket, even with the socket sealed with eraser condensation can occur.
Here's a shot I took of chip. As you can see there is a tiny drop of water, might not hurt to nail polish or conformal this area on LLano cpu's if benching cold.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...ter%20spot.png
so the gpu slows down based on the bus speed? but nothing is able to detect it?
The GPU can slow down when ref GPU base clock is adjusted due to a hidden divider changing at certain frequencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
The GPU clock increases as CPU base clock is raised as well as PLL which in turn has an effect on gpu dividers.
Benches can detect it, so "nothing" would not be a choice word to use. Currently software can not detect correct values however.
i hope we soon get control over that, it would be nice to see a real 900mhz+ run of the Llano gpu
You already did. As SF3D pointed out my clocks were 1083.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
hmm, some things make more sense, then some things dont
he mentioned IGP clock speed, but then his calculations dont even include the IGP speed
Here's a way to calculate your gpu speed courtesy of Macci.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Run 3D06 multi texturing fill rate test.
Then use this formula
default = 11856
Brian’s OC = 21408
21408/11856 = 80.56% boost in the GPU clock
600MHz (default GPU clock) * 1.8056 = 1083MHz
I'm in the 22400 range now, safe to say 1100 core is broken :D
Chew -- I think that is a defect/anomaly from the packaging underflow.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Here is a pix of my llano:
Attachment 118358
Looks clean on this one.
I dabbed it with a paper towel, it was def water.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
My mistake -- looked like a hole or pit in the underflow.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Excellent thread!
Thanks to all :)
ok so your getting almost double the gpu performance, hows important is ram timings and speed at that level?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Good question I am looking into that now. Seems I need 756 and 157 ref clock with loose ram timings but higher clocks to catch the scores that petri said weren't effec........
I would say speed is important no matter what, timings are questionable atm......it's more of a issue where tight is holding back your overall clocks.
To stop that water from forming, maybe a little peice of paper towel there, or a small bit of shop towel?
When I went DICE for the first time I layered about 5 paper towels under the socket backplate and behind VRM area to stop water from condensing, seemed to have worked alright. I used rice on the top though, you can spill some liquid on it and the rice is so thick it never reaches the board.
Round 2. Macci said it would be tough to push these scores further and right he was but it was possible.
1. Benching this APU can be infuriating at times :bsod: I like it :D
2. To push further at least on this board it's going to require some mod research. With the combined high gpu and cpu it's tripping OCP.
3. I got 03 working finally with a different version as well as system info on everything but 05 ( I need to try diff versions for that )
4. This APU is very sensitive to DX9 benches compared to DX10 and up and thus clocks are actually less in older benches, also as the gpu went up I had to tone down cpu or OCP would trip. Some results were slightly impacted by this.
03, ran it once to get a baseline of where I was at score wise.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d03%201.jpg
05 minimal improvement, GT1 is lacking here compared to my other run, sacrificing ram timings + cpu clocks in this bench has it's drawbacks.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d05%203.jpg
06, the gains are ok I guess, Ram timings don't seem to have to big an impact in this bench. CPU being dropped probably cost a little compared to previous run.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d06%203.jpg
Heaven, heaven is just brutal, so much power needed for so little gains.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...heaven%202.jpg
3D 11 is scaling decent.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...d11%201930.jpg
Vantage, I just really found a sweet spot here, finally cracked 21 FPS in GT1 and 16 FPS in GT 2.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...%20vantage.jpg
Gonna take a stab at some mods and see if we can't get Round 3 rolling :up:
And you were testing with phase?Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
Thanks for the thread chew, very interesting on the cold scaling.
No, looking at Chew's original pix I mistakenly thought it was a defect in the pcb package and mine did not have it. Chew clarified that it was a droplet of condensation from the dead space due to the socket.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Ok what I am going to show today does not apply to current cpu's. This will only work on future unlocked models.
There will be a simple program that will be public most likely in time for or prior to unlocked models being released so don't get your panties in a bunch.........It will be shared with the public.
How it works.
Default multi range is 16x-47x for unlocked parts. If we change something we can shift the multi range, now i'm not 100% sure of the impacts this can have on total platform performance however cpu intensive multithreaded shows no gains or losses.
So to sum up lets call this Mode 0 = 16X-47x.
Mode 1 = 32x-63x (lower than 32X will not be available)
Applying Mode 1 with an already high clock say 3700mhz will result it 16X higher so 3700+ 16X will = 5300 and most certainly a crash. In order to counter this multi should be dropped in K10 to lowest setting so when applied frequency will be 32X = 3200 which just about any LLano cpu can do on air.
Will this be usefull for air users? Not likely unless the process improves drastically.
Will it be usefull for ln2? Yes, it will help find the max limits of cpu without board or ram as part of the equasion.
I have tested k10 stat K10153 version and it works fine. Unfortunately at this time cpu-z does not recognize the shift so I will have to contact frank to see if he can get it working.
I used Wprime to first measure performance at a given clock and also show the speeds are "REAL" not bugged.
First a Base line run at lowest multi 16x Mode 0
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/pll...200%201600.jpg
Second Base line run at 42X Mode 0
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/pll...200%204200.jpg
Mode 1 = cpuz reported + 1600mhz As we see the time is cut in half compared to the above 1600mhz run.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/pll...201%201600.jpg
Mode 1 = cpuz reported + 1600 mhz As we can see the time is identical to the above run at 4200mhz.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/pll...201%204200.jpg
Very interesting stuff here. I'm looking forward to tweaking my incoming A8-3850 just for fun. It's supposed to be for my media/download computer but they never stay that way :p:
Couldn't get any more on air :down:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2005/2003z.jpg
Can you not use it for down-clocking on locked samples? Custom P-states would be nice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
That score is nothing to be ashamed of alex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
The problem with that would be the entire multi range is shifted elgappo from 16-47 to 32-63 and models that don't support upwards multi adjust won't apply. I tried this at ASUS on another ES sample and the old claim ( ES is all unlocked is bullocks ), it didn't work on their chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
I would imagine with K10 stat you can already do custom pstates however.
k10stat supports voltage adjustements on giga board?i mean if i modify it on the fly,it won't change in cpu-z nor ai-suite 2 and i'm too lazy to get my multimeter.Board is asus a75-M-Pro.
I will check later on tonight Alex and let you know, I haven't tried voltage in K10 yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
PhenomMsrTweaker might too
Anyone strap a 6670 to the A8 and see how it performans?
Kinda defeats the purpose. We are trying to find out how far the APU can go, not an actual VGA or X fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
Meh I was just asking to see if anyone has done it any see how it went. I would like to see this chip do some damage alone, but the Xfire is a bit interesting as well.
Google is your friend.
Here's 6570 crossfired with APU......You can probably add 3-5% increase with 6670.
http://www.techwarelabs.com/amd-llano-a8-3850-apu/5/
And what appears to be X fired laptop with 6620D.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-p...t7738781result
On the biostar FM1 Board.
http://www.pt1t.eu/?p=430
http://www.pt1t.eu/public/Pt1t_EU/04...tage-P6401.PNG
Damn,that cpu score looks great.Also board clocks memory good.Very nice little board :)
Very nice memory :)
Nice :) The last bios on the M+ was a pain in the ass, might actually be able to get something done now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUyCBbZb3Y0 :censored:Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Foyle
that yours Pt1t?
Doing some tests I'm finding lower dividers are harder to hit higher + offer more performance at same clocks. That said hitting higher ram clocks at the highest divider isn't that surprising.
Pt1t where did you get that bios for the biostar. Cause i haven't seen it show up their site yet. Thats the only thing that makes me hate life about that board :(
Check the TW site. BIOS is still beta, released yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsunamiJuan
Not having any luck with it either, doesn't like any of the kits of mem I got here.
Yeah i saw that it was on the TW site, shortly after I asked that biostar sent me a link to it in my email :D
What I have noticed is that in general your going to have to play with the memory timings. Its not limited to the biostar board though the intial release would not read most memory correctly.
I am using some Dominator cmgtx3's 2400 2gbx2's and some mushkin redline hypers. So far the hypers clock about 100mhz further on this platform than the dominators do.
Gonna load up this new bios in a bit and check it out.
Yeah, this board has been kicking me in the nuts, while the gigabyte is a treat to play with.
I don't leave anything on auto, spent this morning doing timings one by one trying to even get 1866 to boot. Either my CPU is crap, or the board hates my mem, because the memory is just fine on the gigabyte. If you find something, please let me know, as I'm working on a review, and CANNOT even get 1866 @ stock on this Biostar board. I can't post a review when I can't even get stock.:p:
Last IIRC the biostarr will only run 1 stick of 1866, or if you do try to run it, the sticks will have to be in sockets 1 and 3, and you will have to play around some with memory interleaving.
easiest way to get it to work is to clock it down to 1600 and then bush the bclk up from there. Atleast that is what i have had to do.
I am working on a review aswell. I spent all of lastweek fighting with the biostar. Before I ordered the Asus f1a75-pro and the gigabyte ud4. Like you said the gigabyte seems to have the advantage right now. Though it does not support Multipliers past the chips set standard multi. The Asus will provide more voltage, but its allways high by .01 to .05volts, despite setting down the vrm controls. Which is the worst thing for these chips. The higher you have to crank the voltage on any of the Fusion chips the heat will increase more dramaticaly than on say a phenomII. I am guessing this is due to the IGP. The Asus board also currently lacks good IGP control.
Thanks very much. Sounds like we're in the same boat then, and that's very reassuring. I'll have to leave it be and move on to the next one and let Biostar sort it out then, as I kinda figured as much, seeing how both the A+ and M+ give the same problems(not like they are any different, anyway). Hopefully we'll be able to do like P1t1...I damn near died when he posted that. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by TsunamiJuan
:shrug:
Yeah I am busy chaseing max clocks right now. I am gonna try out the K10stat stepping changes tonight. I took 2nd lastnight on the bot. But Decided to stop when I realized I was starting to run into condensation in the ram sockets, AGAIN :\
If we the stepping changes work this will become legit.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/224/6900mhz.jpg
I doubt it will get that far, even c3 stepping only gained us about 500-600 from c2 on deneb. We will be lucky to be breaking 6 gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsunamiJuan
You mean 7gig?
No I mean 6 gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by eXa
C2 retails hit 6.5 to 6.6, C3 hit 7.2-7.3
Currently Llano is hard pressed for 5.5 and thats not due to lacking unlocked multis.
How much do you really expect from a stepping refresh?
1.5 gig?
You can't be serious.
These chips are not like deneb, not by a long shot.......
Im not expecting anything, i have no experience with sub zero cooling. But whats up with that 6.9Ghz screenshot then?
Edit: Nvm, i got it now.
That ss is whats currently considered to be a bug with the current llano 3850 and 3650 unlocked chips. They Will show that as the clock speed but there is little to no performance increase. As well as you can watch the cores gate themselves more rapidly to prevent over heating(atleast it appears thats what they might be doing).
Thats the sole reason why this is not something thats been posted to the bot. Till I can show an actual performance increase before putting it up there.
Though that being said the multipliers do seem to have a cutoff point for what the system will boot at. Previously the best i had achieved on a single stage was just bearly 6ghz (bugged obviously). I could watch the core heat under load create instability.
As far as wisdom on the platform I yeild to your experience Chew. You have far more experience than I do, and more internal knowledge.
Yes Chew, youtube video is my one.
TsunamiJuan :
On retail one, rising multiplier above 29X = no gain of performance.
For those who use the latest Biostar Bios , yes 1866 doesnt work correctly yet and some other issues will be OK in new bios i asked. It will be normally release today :D
Chew: It is a bit strange...It is at Llano coldbug or not? Usually is new process better for OC potential (air cooled), if architecture is simillary...And aircoolied seems at 3800 MHz as top stable. Where could be a problem?
You see, the core has changed a little bit to improve CPC / power consumption and there's also a GPU on the die. Also board power delivery is weaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
So next 3870 with unlocked multiplier will be on a different stepping?Keeping the same process and oc potential will just be non-sense...
Focus for Llano was area density because of huge transistor budget they needed to fit all the blocks. Denser transistor layouts on same process usually means compromised clock scaling. It is not without a reason why we have CPU cores containing only 900mil trannies taking around 330mm2 on 45nm and GPU's with much denser logic circuits containing 2.1billion trannies around same size on 40nm.
Simply high clock requires completely different approach to designing your circuits and sacrificing area density for clock speed.
The real deal :cool:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8792/snapshot0006g.png
No there is no coldbug that i have seen, voltage scaling is just about non existant though. Look at the facts. The cpu competes with the GPU for power and to add more fuel to that fire they took away pins, pins that deliver power in order to get the socket/cpu into a lower TDP range.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Nice run Alex, i've been wanting to test 01, looks like 50K will be easy.
We have to remember, that Llano wasn't designed for uber overclocking. yes I know we still like to play with it, but I suppose they tweaked the transistors for power use not performance or clockability. I think BD will show us what 32nm from AMD is all about.
Thnks,stupid board wont clock mem as my maximus,which runs 2300 6-10-6 no problem.And not an inch over 147 fsb when memory is high,i can run 150 with lower divider but performance is crap.Been waiting for a month for a new bios but asus bastards only focus on 1155 boards,screw them :)
The llano's seem to be very sensitive about memory timing. I've had to experiment and run a very different set of timings than I have been running on my 1155 hardware.
At the same time if you notice the IGP pixelating tearing and artifacting before you you even start to really push. Theres a good chance that the memory timings are to sloppy for its likings. I have noticed this across several motherboards. I am gonna see if it does the same later on my biostar TA75A+. So far both my ASUS F1A75-V pro, and Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4 have both shown this behavior.
On the mention of a cold bug. I've been running a full pot of ln2 without problems.
Round 3 or something like that? I lost count.
01 quick run for a baseline.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...%203d%2001.jpg
AM3 quick run for a baseline.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...178K%20AM3.jpg
Then I went back to DX 9 benches and pushed the scores further.
35K 03 done.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...2003%2035K.jpg
05 not much just a tad.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/Llano%2005%2021436.jpg
06 12K done.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...2012K%2006.jpg
Enjoy.
One of these days I might be able to afford some ln2 and do some proper scores ;)