UD4 vs UD7 3Dmark2001 Sli and Single card Compared.

Yo guys! (please move to more appropriate section if it does not fit here)

Getting ln2 tomorrow only.. so while i'm bored i did this.

Quck history:

I had a UD4 1st, was happy with it. But i wanted to run dual card 01, and the 16x 16x on UD7 sounded juicy. So i bought a UD7 and some of my scores went down a little. Probly because the NF200 chip not so good for single card. It's also not so good dual card. (only tested 2001 though).

So i compared results from UD4 VS UD7.

All my tests done at SAME speeds. Everything identical.

System:

Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 and P67A-UD7-B3
Corsair 2000mhz cl7 memory (1066 7-7-7-20 1T)
Corsair 950W psu
2600k (5.015ghz)
2x MSI 275 Lightnings (750 / 1250)

Just some pointers when using 182.50 nvidia drivers and P67 boards you need to use the sli hack to make sli work. And if you want to overvolt msi 275 lightnings on 182.50 drivers use madmatrix tool.

Here we go:

UD4 Left / UD7 Right (Single Card)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6427/86412771.jpg


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UD4 Screenshot
UD7 Screenshot


UD4 Left / UD7 Right (Dual Card)

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3882/62422717.jpg


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UD4 Screenshot
UD7 Screenshot

The difference is quite big. The higher you go with cpu speed the bigger the difference will get.
Seems like UD4 slacks a LITTLE in nature dualcard. But the other tests make more than up for it.

As far as my testing go's the UD4 (probly ud5 aswel) is much better for 2001sE than the UD7.

Cool

good testing :up:

not sure why but i had UD7 scoring higher in dual cards at lower clocks, will have to retest with this new 5.7 chip i have

do you have those screenshots? would be cool to compare :)

Well if you look the UD4 is a little behind in nature. Probly depends what cards you used. I think powerful cards like 580 might be better on UD7

i used 580s with UD5 and UD7

dont have screens will have to retest but hey 01 doesnt need powerful cards, it needs cards that have great drivers for it so bring on those 275/280/285

wish my lightning 275s were alive :(

I've suspected the same. I have a UD5 here. Will give it a shot against UD7.

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Originally Posted by dinos22

good testing :up:

not sure why but i had UD7 scoring higher in dual cards at lower clocks, will have to retest with this new 5.7 chip i have

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Yes that does sound very strange indeed, it is against all logic. Hope you can replicate those results.
Adding a delay improving result when the extra bandwidth is not used, nah...

also,

max cpu speed on UD4 was 5705mhz
max cpu speed on UD7 was 5705mhz

so no increase there. guess with sandy you can max any chip on any board (almost)

Best solution might be ASUS's where with M4E you can chose, NF200 SLI or Chipset SLI, so far with all the testing I did, chipset's 8x 8x came everytime up front, agains NF200 16x 16x. I think giga could have done a bit better with UD7, by allowing users to chose doing SLI with the chipset :/

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Originally Posted by st0ned

Best solution might be ASUS's where with M4E you can chose, NF200 SLI or Chipset SLI, so far with all the testing I did, chipset's 8x 8x came everytime up front, agains NF200 16x 16x. I think giga could have done a bit better with UD7, by allowing users to chose doing SLI with the chipset :/

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That would be all and well except for one slight issue, asus is very slow in 01 to begin with ;)

Yup I'm aware of that :rofl: . I would hope giga to come forward with a similar solution to ASUS's but with all the giga nice stuff for 01 :D

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Originally Posted by chew*

That would be all and well except for one slight issue, asus is very slow in 01 to begin with ;)

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one team in hwbot have most members runnin gigabyte p67s..lol

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Originally Posted by Hondacity

one team in hwbot have most members runnin gigabyte p67s..lol

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ehhh I'm still trying to figure issue out. So busy lately.

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Originally Posted by Vivi

also,

max cpu speed on UD4 was 5705mhz
max cpu speed on UD7 was 5705mhz

so no increase there. guess with sandy you can max any chip on any board (almost)

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My UD7 clocks my chip exactly the same as my Asus P67 Deluxe

hyper on ud4 ?
can someone show me 7 7 6 on ud4 ? then it is clear what i would buy

Mive and ud4 :) if someone can run hypers on the ud4 XD

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Originally Posted by teurorist

hyper on ud4 ?
can someone show me 7 7 6 on ud4 ? then it is clear what i would buy

Mive and ud4 :) if someone can run hypers on the ud4 XD

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Sure.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=394

Can run 01/03/05/AM3 with same settings.

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Originally Posted by teurorist

hyper on ud4 ?
can someone show me 7 7 6 on ud4 ? then it is clear what i would buy

Mive and ud4 :) if someone can run hypers on the ud4 XD

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i can also run 7-7-6-20 np

just had 7-7-7 for uber stability

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Originally Posted by teurorist

hyper on ud4 ?
can someone show me 7 7 6 on ud4 ? then it is clear what i would buy

Mive and ud4 :) if someone can run hypers on the ud4 XD

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you need the bestest hypers...not all hypers can do good on p67a

you mean gtx2 ? :D

I can't finde some :( same with 275 lightning

hey vivi do you still have a 295 bro? looks like we are on similar CPU clocks with CPUs. I want to see exactly where the 2500K i have is taking a hit in performance as it seems a bit weaker than 2600k when i did compros on the bot base, my 2600k can only do 5.3 but id prefer to do the comparisons at benching clocks

we should agree on some generic run order maybe we can both do with same settings over 3 runs to see what it does. I think it will be good info for the members here who have been wondering what the difference is between the CPUs

messed around with the new P67X-UD3R board yesterday and it seems alright too for 01

http://img.teamau.net/data/media/3/signature.jpeg

1.44 vcore or VCCIO?EIther cases seems a real interesting processor :) Good nature also :)

no CPUz isnt reading it right, it was 1.61vcore

i have a new CPUz from Franck will use that next time

here is a copy of newer CPUz if anyone wants it

http://filefactory.com/file/cbd369d/n/cpuz_vcore2.zip

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Originally Posted by dinos22

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I didn't feel like quoting all that dino but i can help out with 285's sli, 480's sli and 580's sli at 5620 cpu.

you have 285s too eeeek dude stop :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing around lets see some 01 bro :D

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you have 285s too eeeek dude stop :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing around lets see some 01 bro :D

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I was told by who loaned them to me if i went within 10 ft of them with a soldering iron they would cut my nads off :(

:ROTF::ROTF: thats too bad ;)

Yo dinos!

I don't have my 295 anymore no, but i do have this run for comparison. as it is VERY close. I'd say your score isn't lacking much.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6543/dinosd.jpg

just one Q

did you start with LH?

Nope! started with nature, seems to have a nice boost when running dualcard

LH is definitely looking stronger on 2600K then :up:

Nice comparison!

It is also made clear that there is a strange dual card cap.

Me:
5.7ghz
2x 275 STOCK = 1750 Nature

and at 1100core each = 1750 Nature. No increase.

Massman suggested it is a CPU limit.

But suicidephoenix has the same problem, 850 core on 280's in sli. and overclocked he gets same nature score at 5.9 cpu.

So something is up

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Originally Posted by Vivi

It is also made clear that there is a strange dual card cap.

Me:
5.7ghz
2x 275 STOCK = 1750 Nature

and at 1100core each = 1750 Nature. No increase.

Massman suggested it is a CPU limit.

But suicidephoenix has the same problem, 850 core on 280's in sli. and overclocked he gets same nature score at 5.9 cpu.

So something is up

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I've seen this as well. In fact at 5.5 on a 2500K higher gpu clocks in SLI with 285's = worse score versus stock.

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you have 285s too eeeek dude stop :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing around lets see some 01 bro :D

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Originally Posted by chew*

I was told by who loaned them to me if i went within 10 ft of them with a soldering iron they would cut my nads off :(

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Originally Posted by dinos22

:ROTF::ROTF: thats too bad ;)

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Yes very bad, lucky for me I already had 2 kids and don't need my nads anymore :D:rofl:

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Originally Posted by Vivi

So something is up

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Try turning off Threaded Optimization in driver control panel.