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Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 on sale now in Taiwan
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Mainboard on sale NT12000
more:http://www.xfastest.com/thread-59703-1-1.html
Finally also gigabyte moved to EFI BIOS
nice looking board, but I'll wait for UD5 or even UD4 version :)
So what about OC capabilities compared to P67 :confused:
Need some higher quality pictures.
its not the same market segment, but your OC shouldn't be any different. Just with this you can OC your CPU and iGP, as well as have SSD caching, its like a side grade to most of us, but for people buying new its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
I'm still waitin on the p67x-ud3r and you guys already got z68x over there already. That's pretty crazy.
pre-NDA too
Is that why pics were pulled???
most likely, i think NDA i heard was may 5th?
Not to worry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat GriZ
http://i56.tinypic.com/mru3hv.jpg
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100% same PCB as P67 UD7, they just slapped the Z68 on the board and flashed it with another BIOS :rofl:
No videoports :(
I wonder how long it will be before it's available for the P67's.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
Gigabyte has made its last P67 mainboard and cancelled all future production – that’s the stunning news that has just filtered into KitGuru’s newsroom. Shocking stuff, but is it real and, if so, what does it mean. KitGuru heads for the underground carparks to find out, deepthroat style.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/mo...es-100-to-x68/
I guess we can call this one confirmed...
:down: only real reason to go with an z68 in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcticOC
If that was true what Kitguru wrote, that Gigabyte no longer produces P67 , that would be a very bad strategy in my opinion... lol he even states to turn to Asus, ASrock and co...
yeap it's true,no more p67 boards for gigibut,very interesting to quit P67 after a couple of months...
If Gigabyte have moved to EFI, does that mean gimped 3DMark01 performance?
Well, before Z68 we had H61 for garbage boards, H67 for value boards, P67 for everything above, so if they can get the price right with Z68 there is really no need for P67 anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
My concern now is if they are not manufacturing the P67's what kind of support and updates will P67's get going forward. I just got my UD7 4 days ago and this is not something that sits well with me right now.
glad I waited to move from p55 lol
Wouldn't your money be better spent on a larger ssd? I think that it's safe to say that most enthusiasts will be using a discrete video card anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Same question here, i go search my UD7 B3 monday ( for replace my B2), but now im a bit worry with bios support. Let's hope for a UEFI bios for the P67 too soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil_Dog
well i think you can use the igp for physx can't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Id wait for P67 prices to drop because of these boards, or buy one of these for the UEFI.
Nvidia PhysX ? i seriously doubt you can use it for PhysX.... maybe for OpenCL or direct compute based physic .. but that's all . ( maybe troubled by the way you have spell Physic ). + I really doubt this "IGP" have enough compute power for be helpfull...
Huh... what ? Woow just wooow , Gigabyte i think are shooting itself on the foot , a lot of promotion and money in PR for gigabyte X58-OC 1366 Plattform Motherboard and a soft launch well over a month ago and the board has not hit retail yet , no where to be found , its not in stores :shrug: , and now they are selling and in stores a new Z68X mobos :eek: , mehh... Lame bussiness :p:.
but is it only Gigabyte that will stop ? maybe others will do the same !!? if so maybe i should wait to replace my broken sata asus with z68 :/
i just got UD7 B3 but F4beta BIOS still old fashion BIOS style
AFAIK the P67X-UD3 and P67X-UD3R were both cancelled before hitting production, despite being on Gigabyte's website.
The rumours about going all Z68 is true, but do be aware of the fact that the cost difference is very small, much smaller than initially expected and that's why Gigabyte decided to do this.
It's likely that more companies will follow Gigabyte's lead as there's really no point to the P67 chipset now.
As far as UEFI is concerned, again, this is as far as I understand things, Gigabyte will add support for it on most, if not all of their Sandy Bridge boards over time.
Ok - an MSI rep is saying on OCUK that they are probably doing this because their sales haven't been that strong for P67 mobos. Any info on that?
He is also saying that Z68 is more expensive than P67, but by how much?!
I wonder what that means for those of us who still have to swap their motherboard?
I was just going to call the shop where I bought my UD7 to get the new version. Should I wait a bit, and will Gigabyte give me a Z68X-UD7-B3 instead?
And if so, will a complete reinstall of Win 7 be necessary?
What I would do is to wait and then return it for a refund when the Z68 boards appear.
That way you will be able to choose which board you prefer.
As I was saying, the cost difference is VERY small, I can't say exactly how much, but it's less than you have fingers on one hand ;)
The difference is really very small and as such the P67 chipset makes no sense.
Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 out of the box!
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/jcax/mb/gi...68x-ud7/04.jpg
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n...42%26p%3D301270
And this would be why the P67X boards were cancelled, the Z68X-UD3P
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...Xr4KZrXeJ3NRiw
Wonder if this is doable still, my p67 mobo has an sata dead already l need to replace. I should ask tigerdirect about their policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by EzyRyder
Hrrrm. I just put a P67 UD4-B3 in my new system. The possibility that it will see minimal support going forward has me somewhat nervous about keeping it.
I'm planning on sticking with my 2600k rather than upgrading to socket 2011. Gonna wait until the octocores move to 22nm.
No DVI output? :down:
Will the Z68 chipset really offer something better to the P67? I dont use SSD and the IPG, is it true that the X68 is the real 2nd gen i7 platform that iron out a lot of bugs/issues on the P67?
Every thing still unclear
If the images from LostSwedes link are correct, this board is not using EFI BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by K404
hmm how link ??? please give this linkQuote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
So what's the benefit of Z68 that doesn't have any graphics output?
Gigabyte P67 Mainboard, replaced Z68 Chip:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis11
I would consider that a bad thing, as UEFI is nothing more than an attempt to preserve artificial intellectual property rights. It does not solve any of BIOS's long standing problems of requiring two different drivers - one for the firmware and one for the operating system - for most hardware and because UEFI can allow for more flexible remote network booting than current BIOS technology, there are concerns over the security provisions in the standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
I would ultimately consider any motherboard that implements UEFI ultimately a step backwards since it was designed as a "lock-in standard" and in many respects it is inferior to the BIOS that it is replacing. Ultimately, it costs more and only causes more problems.
People seem to forget that the job of the firmware is to provide sufficient information to the operating system and to load and run the bootloader. Any configuration can be done inside the operating system or inside a sparse shell used only by people smart enough to figure out what buttons to click.
If A BIOS needs to be bigger than 64kB, then you are adding more crap than is necessary and wasting money on Flash chips that could be better used on Memory traces.
Yeah it seems silly to not have a DVI output considering that is the whole point of Z68.. :shrug: No Virtu or Synergy with GB Z68?Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis11
First we get rebranded GPUs....now rebranded mobos. That right there looks like a P67 board with a Z68 chipset.
Without a video output, there is no way to enable the on-chip GPU for Quick Sync, NVIDIA's upcoming Synergy technology won't work, Virtu is a no go, etc. etc. If this is true, Gigabyte basically took one of the main selling points of Z68 and threw it to the dogs. Let's hope these are pre-production proof of concept boards...
TMI on how they get information leaks :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcticOC
Anyway, might make sense from Gigabyte's manufacturing standpoint:
They were probably mid-way through production with the faulty P67 boards when they had to hit the emergency stop on production.
Now they have a ton of good leftover motherboard PCBs (which aren't cheap to design or manufacture) and so they just decide to forego the P67 and go straight Z68 for a minimal price delta.
Also, who knows- maybe Gigabyte did testing or screening on Z68 chips and found they can help the K-series overclock better, and thus made a better enthusiast board without dumping a million dollars and a couple months of time on a new design..
Probably wishful thinking, but who knows..
Interesting read, thanks for that. First I've seen against UEFI...Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
That is surprising since I have yet to meet anyone to worked directly on UEFI that doesn't find it shatbox of incoherent garbage and a last gasp to claim intellectual secrets about the darnedest things. [Aka initializing RAM to all ZEROs is a super dooper secret that no one must have :rolleyes:]Quote:
Originally Posted by sdsdv10
If you wish for my engineering perspective of the topic of firmware; it ultimately comes down to two separate paths:
1) Those that expect the firmware to load platform-independent drivers directly from the hardware. Aka They want Open Firmware and they find UEFI a pathetic joke compared to it.
2) Those that expect the firmware to be a lightweight system designed to perform only the minimum of tasks necessary to load and run a modern 32-bit or 64-bit operating system. Aka they want coreboot and they find UEFI a bloated ugly mess that they wouldn't touch even if it came with a :smileysex: from :slobber: and :slobber::slobber:
To add insult to injury, it is easy to strap Open firmware support on top of coreboot [ OpenBIOS ] or any level of it you desire and that provides something that UEFI can NEVER do. Fit the needs of the users.
Once again, I have to thank you for a very insightful post. I looked around this and other forums and haven't really read anyone else posting these views.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Ah yes user's needs.... unfortunately, all too often what users want is not what they need... :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
what the hell is this? all they had to do was put ONE hdmi or displayport port there. they can install it sideways so it takes almost no space. and they didnt even do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sxs112
it makes no sense. I guess they didnt want to redesign the board. that is the only sense I can make of this.
z68 motherboards should look like p67 ones with an hdmi port. any different is failure.
Fortunately the user group being discussed is not Joe Bob, the special ed kid. It is Operating system engineers, techs and overclockers. So we can skip much of the usual user interface crap and assume only competent people who can figure out CLI, TUI, and GUIs without instruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by sdsdv10
If we are to break those groups down farther we get:
1) people who prefer it if everyone did the work for them. Aka the Open Firmware people. [Auto overclock buttons, full system drivers, and anything that removes thinking]
2) People who prefer to understand and control their system. Aka coreboot people [lean boot, everything configurable, and anything that lets the user control the system]
3) People who like being treated like :banana::banana::banana::banana: and like not being able to fix any of their problems Aka UEFI people [No source code, no real control, and no ability to change it]
Now, I personally like category 2 and I understand category 1 but I have no idea what would possess someone to like category 3.
lol anyone remember X38 and X48? remember the difference?
LOL, that one really cracked me up... :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Never heard this before. What is it? I'm still using a Asus P5E MB which is X38, don't remember reading about differences? I though X48 was just higher binned X38 chip sets, was it actually something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian
Who said it is going to use UEFI?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/278/touch-bios.html
DDR3 wasn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by sdsdv10