Noticed something rather outlandish for this site of xtreme enthusiasts; we don't have a thread dedicated to GTX580 overclocking.
All general discussion, benchmarking and modding is to go in here :D
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Noticed something rather outlandish for this site of xtreme enthusiasts; we don't have a thread dedicated to GTX580 overclocking.
All general discussion, benchmarking and modding is to go in here :D
That is not the general GTX580 overclocking thread, read the title.
Direct CUII stock air testing 3Ds
Vgpu 1.285 smart doctor 1035/1200
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/451...nshot003zu.jpg
Isnt 1.285 a little to high and might kill the GPU or blow up the VRM ?
This belongs to this thread.
Memory clock impact on result:
P7358 --- GTX580@1000/2000 --- 980X@4610 --- Sector 5 2250@2000/7-7-7-20-1T --- R3E --- donmarkoni
P7570 --- GTX580@1000/2400 --- 980X@4610 --- Sector 5 2250@2000/7-7-7-20-1T --- R3E --- donmarkoni
oh yes.. i'm in!! ;)
wow donmarkoni 1ghz on the gpu and it makes lower scores ...
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/959068
2mhz less on the memory.
580 @ 960/1200
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9048/20119601200.jpg
Basically it has like 1-2fps performance boost?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
@Topic
Is there a GPU block that can fit on the 580 while the stock VRM/RAM sinks unibody is still attached?
CUII on Swiftech 80 block. Will test with UD-7 next
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/1957/01a1fv.png
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/926/031gud.jpg
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1...nshot007uc.jpg
I have something strange, my ASUS GTX580 is clocked @900MHz and mem 4200MHz with 1.1000V and my GTX580 makes a whistling sound or a buuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh and a booooohhhhhhh real light when he does 3D rendering.
Temps are 61 degress celsius on 100% load (furmark, OCCT) and during ATItool when the cube is standing still to detect errors it makes a peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
No crashes or what so ever but can somebody recall this or know this sound, is it the proc or the capacitors and is it dangerous?
I touched the VRM's and the are hot but not to hot to touch.
Cooler is a Shaman cooler and i used a long heatspreader for the VRM's of a GTX280/285 GPU.
Electronic buzzing is quite common even way back during the FX5200
Yeah i know, virbrating of capacitors, i experienced it before but mostly they go like bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
But the difference here is that it's 2011 and the thing is making different tunes, peeeeeeeeeeeee and wooooooooohhh, depends on the application.
During Dawn of War 2 i hear the low pooooooooohhh and during ATItool it goes high like peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :rofl: (this is no joke or a fib btw)
Does somebody else experience this or most of the PC's have too much fans to even hear this and next theory is is that the standard GTX580 cooler covers the whole card so the noise will be smothered/ dimmed??
Interesting thread
It's getting up there, but the Direct CUII's are built like tanks, the VRM has been pushed over 1.5v and has held up fine. A reference card would be hurting if you tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Nice info, really seems to make a difference at higher GPU clocks which makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Wow man, getting closer to 1100MHz GPU on water!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
It's not caps, it's coils (chokes) that whine. It's a kind of resonance due to current flow and the pitch varies depending on the FPS of the rendered scene - higher FPS gives higher pitched sound. It's not something you should be concerned about and it's not going to damage your card.Quote:
Originally Posted by X4er0
3DMark 06 | 4.50 GHz @ 1.330v | GTX580 | 950c1900s2250m @ 1.125v
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...5vphysxoff.png
3DMark Vantage | 4.50 GHz @ 1.330v | GTX580 | 950c1900s2250m @ 1.125v
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...5vphysxoff.png
how do u manage to hold the RAM and VRM cool ? Fans ? canīt find a fullcover for this beast anywhere :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
I never need to OC my 2x580 sli cards sence all games run at 60fps with max setting :)
the same thing with my old 2x280 sli
What you described is the very thing I experienced with my GTX285, lucky enough not anymore with the GTX580.Quote:
Originally Posted by X4er0
Shouldn't there be some sort of standard for posting results? That way persons can easily compare their results.
Manufacturer|Cooling Solution|GPU|Shader|Mem|Voltage
Benchmarks 3dmark11, others..
Put 2 high rpm fans in front. Full cover imo not as goos as single gpu block, it do its job to cool gpu 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/25/...shot012gpq.jpg
ok, thx for info mate. then i will go with a single block too. will try one from ekwb. hope to get the card soon :D
[QUOTE=Dumo;4809360]CUII on Swiftech 80 block. Will test with UD-7 next
QUOTE]
Nice work! :up:
60 FPS in all games, same as old cards......You sure you don't have VSYNCH enabled? If so, turn it off and see what your FPS are.Quote:
Originally Posted by koc
Yeah the GT200's all did it I think, my 580 doesn't but maybe his card just does, point is its not going to break it from an electronic standpoint, but it may drive him mental :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
I'm not overly phased personally, it's just a general thread not something like the LinX 4.5GHz thread. Cards aren't that complex, you have vgpu and 3 speeds and people usually do mention what they're on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradoxxx
Feel free to post whatever you want, if someone wants specifics they can ask.
Ok i find out that my friend has the same thing with his GTX570 MSI brand, during ATItool error test he has the same high pitched peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and during a game he has the wooooooooo or pooooooooooh so you both are right, it's just how the made the PCB's, nothing to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Oh and the reason why we can hear it clearly on his GTX570 because he has a different cooler also so nothing that can block the sound (naked PCB).
Oh btw tip for overclockers, difference ingame from 900MHz to 950MHz result in 2-3FPS more but you need a bit more voltage to obtain stable clock and you will get higher temps in my situation it will result in 7 to 9 dregees hotter so it wasn't worth it.
People that use watercooling or any other cooling solution that won't be needing the power pins on the PCB of the GPU you can best set fan min and max to 0%, you need less voltage for your clock.
I'm not seeing how this could be the case, with no load (due to fan not being connected) there is no current draw from the fan circuitry, and setting it to 0% would not be giving the card any 'extra power' as it were.Quote:
Originally Posted by X4er0
Thats probably because all the CPU's out there are currently a bottleneck to the GTX580 hence minimal performance gain from 900 to 950Mhz.
Those were quick runs, before I made a post. Probably not too optimized.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&d=1300622276Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
So what GPU block is that?
Something from this page perhaps: http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/bl...ga-blocks.html
page not found... anyway is an universal EK gpu waterblock .
That's what I linked....works for me?
Yeah, that's it. Universal WB, EK VGA Supreme, older model, restricted flow, as my CPU WB. I like them like that. ;)
Than it was a fluke for me and the guys at guru3d, my theory same as yours first, nothing connected no load or current needed, first i needed +1.13 for 900MHz now i set it on 1.10000 and it's 100% stable, nor artifacts or errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
MSI Afterburner wont allow it, even if in user define screen I set 0% for all set point in the graph.
Do you have to BIOS mod the fan values to 0%?
This is what I've got so far at MAX voltage 1.1475, stock cooling with fan speed at full. Temps rose to 63C during tests.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_s...C_986_2400.jpg
Interestingly enough, I got a lower overall and graphics score as compared to the guy in post #8 even though my clocks are higher. CPU/Driver related?
I get about 66-67c at full fan speed with 1.150v
modded 580 lightning bios for 1.21v
http://download1024.mediafire.com/1c...hting+bios.rom
580 lightnig stock 3d11
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1881/580stock.jpg
580 lightning stock volt oc .997vid(dmm)
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4...tockvoltoc.jpg
was able to loop 944/1200 more then a few times no issues at all i'm sure there is more for hwbot type benching:yepp: was just setting the paste i had done a few minutes earlier
+200vm+1.027v 1.19v ;)
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/3...9vsoftware.jpg
max i could set with software voltage wise 1.36v(1.35ish dmm)have not tried to move jumpers yets.
just set i did not let card go in 3d with this for obvious reasons being on stock cooler ;)
with a modded bios add .06v thuogh software np.:D
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9...renobiosfl.jpg
I always overclock via bios, first test in MSI afterburner to see how much volt is needed for 100% stability on a clockspeed and i use ATItool because it's very fragile.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Then i go for temps check and i use furmark and OCCT for bizarre temps.
If everything is allright i extract the bios than i alter bios with de speeds and set fan min and max on 0% so if i use GPU-Z now it says 0%, then i upload the bios and go back in MSI afterburner and see if i can lower volt while maintaining stability, that's how i found out i can achieve 900MHz and 4200MHz with 1.1 Volt instead of 1.13.
Hope this helps you with the right steps and order.
Now my GTX580 gets 58 degrees celsius max on load during DOW 2 Retribution and Crysis 2, cooler is Shaman BUT i bought 2 bags of small heatsinks to cover up the VRM's, i used a GTX280 large heatsink from thermalright for it and it gets warm to the touch, not so hot that you'll burn your finger btw.
edit: if you need help holla at me...
Just to answer my own question here, the difference lies with the driver used. The 267.60 Driver produces a higher score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradoxxx
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_s...0%20Driver.jpg
Could it also be the core difference from 985 to 990 ?
Yes the GPU change would have had some effect on the score, Certainly nothing to warrant a 300+ score increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
I redid the test with the same GPU clocks used before from proper comparison.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_s...0%20Driver.jpg
266.58 driver i don't think were well optimized for this our GTX580, 260.70 & 270.51 i think are the best drivers we can have for our GTX's, btw i do not really care about that bla bla driver not approved on the 3dmark11 page...... :|
i've made two runs, 1ghz gpu & 992mhz gpu with 4.5ghz on cpu
:)
Just want to ask for some input, this is a rail diagram on my PSU.. Silverstone 750ZF
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...=Story&reid=25
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDR...F/IMG_0318.jpg
The 8Pin is on the 12V4 rail so that what Im using on my GTX580 for the 6pin Im also getting it from the 12V4, would it make any difference on the PSU loading if I use the 12V3 6pin instead?
I think I have all my fans drawing from the 12V3, 3x 140MM LED fans, 2x 120MM LED fan.
this is my crysis2 gameplay ... :)
http://img217.imageshack.us/g/crysis...515142231.jpg/
i'm really enjoying it, hope to see it in DX11 ....
Is that a 900MHz core speed on 0.993v ??!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by cowie
Nice score. HT on would make that better again.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
@Cryptic i know that, but at this speed HT on makes me bluescreen ....
unigine 2.1 hwbot version
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...eXpresetR2.JPG
unigine 2.1 goliath mode (all maxxed out)
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...iathrecord.JPG
Can run 1000Core@3DMV?Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Thanks
Can you post screen of Unigine 2.5 goliath mode? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
wich purpose?
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...2.5dx11907.JPG
can't push more than 984mhz, the 2.5v is quite heavier than 2.1v. btw i'll try one more time with 270.61 WHQL
mmhmh not sure i can.... but i can try it :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by vern
edit:
here :)
ppu on
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...m1ghzppuon.jpg
ppu off
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...ppuoff1ghz.jpg
vern, i've made what you've asked me :)
nice :) , but' i've got a question, i've got this
coming with the RIIIE, is that ok to use? for a 2way?i'm asking because i'd never got a sli before now, and i see you using another type of sli bridge for 2 cards .. apart the fact that's the only one i have right now, so would it works the same? :)
have to go for a new card and currently i am choosing between the asus CUII and the MSI Lightning. which one would the 3d gurus prefer ? :D
tia
@ Napalm - nice mate :up: Is that a watercooled raid card?
@ Sauron Vie - Whats the application?
only for gaming and 3d benches.. for 24x7 i am going with the 2nd sys...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
msi is good ....
thx mate, hope i will get a good one :D will maybe my first msi.. in the past i always took evga.. ;)
Well both are good cards, ample VRM for longevity, but seems there are some bum msi cards clocking really bad, havent seen anyone report an asus card clocking as bad. Some are good though, so assuming an equal probability of getting a decent clocker out of the two, and if you have no brand preference, go with the cheapest. Also consider the asus is triple slot cooler so if you need the space it may cause issues. If you are just gaming with it casually why go non reference at all? Reference cards are solid bits of gear and may be had for less than either non reference card you mentioned.
this is my sli ...
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...vslippuoff.JPG
well, many thx for the plety infos. ok, i see.. i have no brand preference and if there r some bum msi cards available then i should be better with the asus. due to the triple slot cooler i have no problems.. will be watercooled on arrival day.. i thinking about these two cards cause i have seen that both of them have enough "space" to the top ;) and I appreciate the overclocking potential of these cards.. thats the main reason i will take this non reference card :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Watercooling is easiest on reference cards as they have full cover blocks available, my temps are great. If you run non ref, you can only cool GPU as no full cover blocks available afaik.
DUMO means single gpu block will do the job better then a full cover and with a good fan in front of the vrm and ram it will be ok then with the temps.
thanks i see you got it worked out.. lets see more sli results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
thanks indeed non other than areca 1231 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
earlier today took that 3rd 580 apart and when the block came off the hsf came off aswell
rest of the pix: http://img864.imageshack.us/g/35657433.jpg/
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1826/78243266.jpg
does anybody know a release date for the asus matrix platinum ?
ye it worked... my rig is actually (again) offline, got to upgrade few things.. i'll be back :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Guys, does any 580 offer better overclocking potential on water? Will a direct CuII clock better than a ref design or a Lightning? Or does it vary anyway?
:up:
If you are interested in purchasing full cover blocks I would recommend buying a reference card e.g. vanilla 580 or an oc varient. It all comes down to the binning and in some cases a vanilla card gives better OC performance than a stock OC card.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
If you would like to buy just a GPU block and use heat sinks then buying a non reference card is an option for you. These cards usually OC much higher which imo is due to binning and better quality components (VRM's etc).
I went for a vanilla 580 and intend to buy a full cover block for it.
I should have mentioned, I have an EK vga supreme HF on a GTX580 vanilla now, with the base of the stock cooler left on to cool the rams etc, it has benched at 995 max (not always stable there) with voltage maxed at 1.213v, so if I sell and buy a non-ref I want it to be worth it. What chance is there of a Direct CuII or Lightning passing 1000mhz benchable? My temps havent hit 50c yet under benching load with it cranked right up so Im very happy with the block.
MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr. Haven't mod it in anyway, no bios flashing or even replacement of thermal paste. All air with relatively high room temps (27C and it's 2AM).
------------------ Core-------------Mem-------------Shader-------------Vcore
Stock:----------800MHz---------2048MHz---------1600MHz------------1.0v (0.988v)
Stable OC:-----920MHz---------2200MHz---------1840MHz------------1.075v
GPUZ Validation: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/zyecg/
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...B/e0e26040.jpg
Hi,
my sli :
vantage
http://i23.servimg.com/u/f23/12/23/4...h/news_r10.jpg
wonderfull :)
Only just got this 2600k together so just tweaking stuff at the moment.
CPU @ 4800, GPU @ 900/2200 (1.113v) Forceware 270.51
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4...5809002.th.jpg
I've toyed a bit with 3Dmark11 but something seems amiss. On my 920 @ 4ghz I got in the 7100P range but with this 2600 using the 270.61s, its closer to 6600. The cpu score went up respectively without a doubt but obviously the gpu went down. Have these newer drivers kicked 3D11 in the nuts? Down grading to even the 270.51s boosted 11 a good 150 points. I don't recall what I was running when I last benched my previous system (I want to say 266 series) :rolleyes: Based on what I'm seeing with Vantage though these numbers seem to be in the right ballpark. Strange...
EDIT:
Heres a Heaven 2.5 run at Defaults
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1...k4800gt.th.jpg
hmm whats the most stressful test that can confirm stability without disabling OCP via gpuz
on my 480 sli was crysis 2 on 3d.
got a zotac 580 vid 1.025 and its so far been ok at 900,2300 at 1.075 via 2d games etc
any suggestion on a single app??
Ive found Heaven (2.1 or 2.5) and Vantage to be good sythentics for OC stability. They are easy to loop and aren't unrealistic load wise and honestly I've never found OCCT or Furmark to be anything more than a cooling test. As far as games go Just Cause 2 can be decent test however its picky with drivers and I've found it can crash even at stock so its not ideal ( not driver stoped responding but purely a crash to desktop ) GTA4 and EFLC seemed to be quite effective for the recent AMD hardware I've used but didn't appear to be so picky on Nvidia stuff.
Generally if you can loop Heaven at your highest native resolution with max AA and AF with extreme tes for 30-60min its a pretty good indication of stability. From there I'd simply use the card as you would and see if any issues arrise. Gpu overclocks tend to be much more picky than cpu overclocks...
Asus CU II short quick test out of the box, still @air, waiting for the ekwb gpu block.
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...124&fullpage=1
very good score :up:
Asus DCUII. Bottom screen is 480 lightning. Not sure why the 480 outscores it with the same oc on cpu and mem, same os.
Nice score, but that vcore is :eek: for 4.5GHz!Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
is the same thing i was thinking, is a new cpu, i'm trying to make friendship :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
thanks! i've passed 56000k points with ppu on :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Net
@p3gaz - Heh well you're cpu is not going to like you much if you hammer it with that much vcore!
i use those voltages for benchmarks sessions only... it is not for a daily use, however i'm still looking for the max cpu speed/vcore i need to mammer it a little bit .. (for a while) ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
after 580 , my 570 evga :DQuote:
Originally Posted by enkie
http://i23.servimg.com/u/f23/12/23/45/17/th/57011.jpg
Nice chip Dumo, 5700+mhz 8 threads. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Guys, how do you get more than 1.213v vgpu on 580? I read about modded MSI AB or Smartdoctor but I havent seen the files anywhere yet.
:up:
nice scores and nice cpu! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by enkie
Just pulled the trigger on a Zotac model , water setup coming soon :P
more than 1.213 think isn't possible, and what do you need that high voltage for? are going to cool it with ln2?Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
I upgraded my PSU from a Silverstone 750ZF to a Strider Gold 850, would there be any chance that the overclocking headroom on my card will increase? ( Im guessing not )
No but I will give DICE a shot, and with it maxed at 995 1.213v Im only hitting mid 40's gpu temp so Im sure it could handle a little more juice to try to get it to pass at 1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
:up:
Modded BIOS, MSI Afterburner Extreme version (unlocked)...Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Yes, it's possible. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
You don't even need DICE, you will be fine on water. I raised up to 1.35V on water without problems. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
got it, ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
just yesterday i've tried messing up with modded bios, bumped the voltage to 1.213 ... tried to hit 1010mhz ... no joy .. black screen and casuals reboots and bsod passing 1.150v .... :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
That depends on various factors. I've noticed OC headroom has gone up over time with some of my hardware, although I can't say for certain what attributed to it. The last hardware I had long enough for this scenario to arise was a couple HD4830s in CF. Initially they could only do 675/2000 24/7, then just before retiring them I decided to have another play around with them and they were able to do 725/2100, same voltage and settings, and nothing major about the system itself had changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Then you will have to try with DICE. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Mine GTX580 runs up to 1030MHz at 1.225V under water and not a 5MHz higher, no matter how high voltage.
Testing GTX580 @ stock cooling... (fan 85%)
The card can pass 3DM06,3DM05,3DM03,3DM01 at 970/1200 with 1.125V but can't go higher not even with 1.15V... I will try on SS soon!