Let's put the reviews here as they appear today.
Motherboards.org review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZxPqroC37c
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Let's put the reviews here as they appear today.
Motherboards.org review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZxPqroC37c
:hump::rehab::hump:
NDA ends. http://www.chiphell.com/en/graphics/nvidia-gtx-590/
Also another copy is in the reviews section.
Just OC is important!!!
My 580's in SLI laugh about that!
Here with 950-2200
http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3012111
3DMark Score
44485.1 3DMarks
Graphics Score
50597.02
CPU Score
32652.28
Full review from Techreaction:
http://www.techreaction.net/2011/03/...g-of-the-hill/
Does the TechReaction review lack the 6990, or am I just going full retard here?
Yes, and the other results are with various drivers, it's not really useful for comparation, just to have an idea what the card can do. We'll have our review up at NDA, in 30-something minutes.
Ok, so maybe I am missing something, but when the HD6990, the GTX580 and various other new cards with this much hype were released, every site I can think of have their reviews up at the expiration of the NDA, which if I remember correctly for the GTX590 was about 2 hours ago. So where are the reviews? Where are the cards?
NDA is in 32 minutes from now.
overclockers.co.uk has it for £680.
Yeah NDA ends in 15mins, expect everyone have their review up in 15mins :)
Oh wait... arent end time of NDA under NDA?
"Equilibrium: AMD Radeon HD 6990 vs. Nvidia GeForce GTX 590"
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...e-gtx-590.html
And yes, its not yet published, but its already there(the url;))...:welcome:
So is Guru3D's
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/
Reviews are officially out...
Nvidia GTX 590 Reviews
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/n...ngle-card-king
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=716&Itemid=72
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...0-3gb-review/1
http://www.bjorn3d.com/articles/Nvid...east/2027.html
http://www.chiphell.com/en/graphics/nvidia-gtx-590/
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...force-gtx-590/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...90-sli-review/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...o_card_review/
http://hardwarebg.com/geforce-gtx590...8%D0%B0%D0%BB/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/825-...e-gtx-590.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=29724&page=1
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDI...F110s-One-PCB/
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/video/gf110-5-p1.html
http://lab501.ro/placi-video/asus-ge...-of-the-titans
http://lab501.ro/placi-video/asus-gt...-frecventa-cpu
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl..._3072mb,1.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1576/1/
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...force_GTX_590/
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...tx590_review/1
http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=948018
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_gtx590/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1098
http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/artikkel...-590-2-x-gf110
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1247.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...Force_GTX_590/
http://www.techreaction.net/2011/03/...g-of-the-hill/
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20629
http://www.techspot.com/review/378-n...force-gtx-590/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...6990,2898.html
http://www.tomshw.it/cont/articolo/g...0/30402/1.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...e-gtx-590.html
GTX 590 vs HD 6990 | lab501.ro translation
GTX 590 vs HD 6990 - CPU scaling | lab501.ro - translation
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=29724&page=1
The Good
Smaller and quieter than Radeon HD 6990
3D Vision Surround from one card
Has significant overclocking potential
The Bad
Slower than the Radeon HD 6990
Matched by multi-GPU solutions costing £150 less
Priced too high given the performance
HEXUS.rating 3/5
I just read the Guru3D and Hardware Canucks review and both reviews showed different results, the Guru3D showed the GTX 590 was in lead in most games while the Hardware Canucks showed the GTX 590 was slower than the 6990 in most games.
HW Canucks GTX 590 vs 6990 -1% in avg fps, +4% in min. fps. So dunno, what are you seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
LOL
exploded at 1.2v
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_590/26.html
Legitreviews
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1576/1/
Hothardware
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDI...F110s-One-PCB/
Techreport
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20629
Differet strokes for different folks. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
Honestly, it's next to impossible to equate one review with another.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2898-17.html
Hahah, it's ridiculous how loud the Radeon 6990 is. Move to the four minute mark, start the 590 clip, then the 6990 clip:)
Where's the facepalm emoticon when you need it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
From all of the reviewer's guides I have read, every one of them indicates NOT to push voltage past 1.1V with the reference heatsink. There's overclocking and then there's something like that which shouldn't be done ON THE STOCK COOLER.
But to each their own I guess. But it's sad to see cards dying without OCP kicking in. :(
Overclockers Australia
http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=948018
No limit to 1.13-1.15v in the bios?or just a unlocked review card?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
I find it odd the 4xx-5xx cards all were limited to these ranges but not the 590?
It's not about the cooling SKYMTL, the PWM is too weak, just as it is on the GTX 570. Two GTX 590 died the same way here, one in our test lab and one in a demo system of a reseller, both not overclocked or overvolted; Nvidia says some faulty components not found on retail parts caused it, but both us and TPU had retail package GTX 590's.
Its not a great card similar to the 6990 in performance and by that i mean some reviews will say 6990 is faster other will say the opposite. Now coming to the card it does not really deserve the fastest card award because its not always faster than the 6990 but given the GTX 580 costs around $480 and the 590 costs $700, i would consider it more value for money with respect to overclocking.
I for one would get a pair of 6950's if i had dual PCIE's or a GTX 590 if i had one PCIE "Who uses 1 now a days"
Conclusion of all reviews...fail!
I liked sweclockers.com review the most, even had a video when the 590 got smoked... anandtechs is also ok but to many graphs, why not have avg and min frames/sec in the same graph?
It's an innovative card. If I had to guess, AMD may go for a "6990 rev. 2" with a quieter cooler. What Nvidia has done in respect to acoustics is great. That being said, the general consensus is that that the 6990 is faster. On the games where Nvidia has put tons of optimization into it, it's obvious as Nvidia's 590 beats the 6990 by a healthy margin. However, when the games are on designed indifferently or in favor of AMD's solutions, The HD 6990 wipes out the GTX 590 by 20-25%, in some cases the 6990's minimum is actually higher than the GTX 590's average. At higher resolutions, it looks like AMD did the right thing by incorporating 2GB of frame buffer per GPU.
If AMD could simply get the fan noise under control, AMD would have the clear winner. As it stands, HD 6990 is the fastest card in the world, while the GTX 590 is quieter and has the better feature set.
The End.
From what I can see the higher you go with resolution and AA, the more Radeon 6990 outperforms GTX590.
Though honestly why buys such cards to play below Full HD and AAx4 & AAx8?
That way I guess Radeon remains as the king of the hill closely followed by GTX590? Some people may choose one or the other based only on brand preference. :shrug:
Can we keep a running total on the 6990 vs 590? Its quite interesting as it seems to swing one way then the other. TPU blowing up was quite funny! Woul dbe interested to see reviewers usinf the 11.4 drivers if only for this supposed civV improvement.
590 (2):
Bit-tech
Guru3d
Draw (4):
Toms
Hardwarecanucks (undecided on this one)
xbit
chiphell
6990 (2):
Hexus
TPU
on launch day drivers this card did very well IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadov
In the tpu review it was a tie @ 1920 x1280 3% off the 6990 at 2050x1220.
amd cant fix how loud the card is but nv can work on the drivers.
the 590 blowing on vid pillo-kun mentioned not too much drama but its worth a see
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/137...boven-i-dramat
the guys text says its the drivers?
High-performance graphics card Geforce GTX 590 balances on the verge of what is practically possible to handle in terms of power consumption and heat development. Even worse is the situation when overclocking.
In order not to risk the components damaged are blocks built in drivers to say from when limit values are exceeded. SweClockers testers Jonas Eriksson tells what happened when the graphics card you take 12 000 SEK went up in smoke.
The first graphics card gave up the spirit when I user overclockable with the increase of the voltage to the GPU. I was thinking not so much more on it, after all things that can happen and there are always Monday specimens, in particular as regards the early "samples".
Shortly afterwards snappade Andreas up more suffered the same misfortune and we decided to explore it all together with Nvidia.
An additional video card had to be sacrificed in order to come to the conclusion that it is driver 267.52, which is the culprit. The experiment was repeated with newer 267.71 and then worked Nvidias safeguards that they would.The essence of it all is to install the latest software from Nvidias website and at all costs avoid the driver that is included in the box, which is precisely the wrong version 267.52. The who plan to overclock should also make sure that you have good ventilation in the chassis and be aware that your warranty is if frequencies are increased over specifications.
Goes both ways I guess. AMD have a history of improving performance with new drivers, so the 6990 will get faster, but stay just as loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by cowie
Any test with 11.4 R2?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
Funny, I have talked to several reviewers about this and out of the ~13 cards we all have, none has died in situations where the default voltage was adhered to...
Methinks something is going on there in Europe. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RacingTurtle
They do? That's news to me. Usually they are fixing items broken in the last release. :D
done, not much inc on game or benchQuote:
Originally Posted by tnc99
When I got my 5870, I was able to run Dirt 2 w/ 4xAA and all settings maxed at 1920x1200. I got an average of 50-55 FPS. Now, from the Cat 10.6 on, I can run Dirt 2 w/ 8xAA, all settings maxed, at 1920x1200, and have Vsync enabled because the framerate is pegged at 60 FPS the entire time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
AMD did something pretty fantastic with their drivers I think. :D
Can't wait. Thanks for confirming, I thought I was missing something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
Why bother explaining to a tool?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Pistol
Lol well that too. Just pointing out that both teams improve drivers over time, so to suggest that driver revisions will soon have the 590 ahead in perf, is not accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
*edit*
Just seen theres already an EK block out for this card!
Nope! We investigated this a while back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Pistol
Basically, many times patches which improve performance are overlooked and instead people assume it is the drivers that have been improved.
Case and point: DiRT 2...
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...NCHMARK-13.jpg
Typically, I have found that both AMD and NVIDIA drivers tend to improve performance in games which were released between driver revisions. Yes, there are some times when tweaks in the drivers expand framerates in existing games but those situations are few and far between since optimizations are usually already built in.
Muropaketti: GTX 590... and 6990 wins performance 6-4 and games 5-2. Eyefinity tests included.
Quote:
Originally Posted by emertX
"My 580's in SLI laugh about that" well you did spend $1,000 so it should perform better vs the single newest nvidia card....:confused:
Yeah it's probably reviewers here getting retail cards instead of cherry picked ones straight from nV HQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I stand corrected. Codemasters did something fantastic with their game patch. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
At least nVidia is competitive on the high end single card now, they haven't been in awhile.
I don't think that is the case since there was a good mix of retail and non-retail samples in the people I talked to. However, only time will tell if this is a true "issue" or not. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo75
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Originally Posted by SKYMTL
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agree with you %100,yet ati always seemed to be plauged by drivers and certain games but on paper(tech specs)ATI always made a better card then Nvidia.Nvidia(and now intel)always stay VERY close to game developers vs ATI and Nvidia makes it a point to have drivers out for before the game is even released.this is how Nvidia makes up for the hardware dept,and why as a gamer stay with Nvidia cards(plug and play,no headaches).and this is why i stick with nvidia and a gamer.i need it to run my new game "out of the box" no waiting for new drivers or releases,fixes,etc.
**i dont like this news :P here**
"NVIDIA's dual-GPU GeForce GTX 590 emerges, can't slay the Radeon HD 6990 titan"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/
*****
cpu scaling--
now lets take video card out of the equation for 1 minute and just look at 1 thing u did not mention.cpu scaling,cpu overclocking giving a direct FPS increase in certain games.this info is simply mind blowing.
Call of Duty: Black Ops GPU & CPU Performance In-depth-by "techspot"
"Black Ops on the other hand saw a massive 78% increase in performance when clocking our Core i7 processor from 2.0GHz up to 4.0GHz, and we continued to see a performance increase right up to the maximum tested frequency. Both the minimum and average frame rates were affected, suggesting that users who are in need of better performance will want to overclock their processor for this game."
http://www.techspot.com/review/336-c...nce/page7.html
my setup-
Evga/koolance waterblock gtX 480(bone stock)32c.Running Black Ops on my Sony fw-900 24 inch black ops at @ 2304x1440 16:10(WIDE)80hz 80 SOLID fps.this is only possible because of the 4.2ghz i7 930 behind my watercooled stock speed single 480.....cpu scaling-key.i told my three of my buddys(they run i7,s 920 4ghz watercooled rigs,live 15min away) who bought SLI gtx 470,s INSTEAD save money and buy a single 480 as it will be no problem at any res if u push yout i7 past 4ghz.they hate me,haha.there lcds res,hz rate come no were near my FW-900,s(i have 2).
Predictably few Dragon Age 2 benchmarks around.
http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/X-...5730121144.png
I wonder why? :shrug:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo75
"I wonder why?"
ATI make better cards(on paper),yes i said it as i prefer and buy Nvidia cards for the stabilty,no bugs on games i play(quake 4,bf2-the orignal w all mapacks,mw1,mw2,blk ops,bf2-bad company(sucks-bad game play,played for 8hours,unistalled).the 6990 has 4 gigs of gddr5 on it,jeez...props to ATI as that is AMAZING for hi res gamers like myself running on my Sony 24in FW-900 moniters(2304x1440 16:10 80hz 80 fps).ati rocked this one and the ram(4gigs!?!?!) plays a CRUCIAL role for hi res gaming,its been proven.oh forgot to mention the crazy stock clocks on the dual gpus...ATI did good with this round.props!
"NVIDIA's dual-GPU GeForce GTX 590 emerges, can't slay the 4gig Radeon HD 6990 titan" :eek:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/
HardOCP (Kyle?) isn't impressed with the GTX 590.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/..._card_review/9
Duke Nukem reference?Quote:
We truly thought the GTX 590 was going to make the Radeon 6990 look bad, but the fact of the matter is that NVIDIA made the 6990 look that much better. The GTX 590 is not the "World's Fastest Single Card Solution" as stated on our page 1 slides; the Radeon HD 6990 is very much retaining that title. Hail to the King, baby!
Geforce GTX 590 burns @ SweClockers.com - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1...re=fe%C2%ADedu
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_590/26.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
:(
SKYMTL, this one specific example I would highlight:
Quote:
Within our review of the HD 6990 we mentioned that a strong driver stack is a must for any dual GPU product. Without quick SLI support for new games, the GTX 590 will be dead in the water. A good example of this was the GTX 590’s performance in Just Cause 2 where framerates took an unexpectedly plunge at higher resolutions with AA enabled. This in effect had a profound impact upon the 2560 x 1600 / 8x AA results we have above. Hopefully a situation like this is the exception rather than an omen of things to come.
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As with every other multi core graphics cards, the success or failure of the HD 6990 largely hinges on AMD’s driver development team stepping up to the plate in a big way. As we saw in testing, its mission accomplished….for now. If they can keep this head of steam going and roll out application profiles in rapid order as the busy spring gaming season heats up, then early adopters should have nothing to fear. However, if Crossfire support for new games trickles out months after release, Antilles’ design could be rendered ineffective in short order. It should also be mentioned that while driver stability was spot-on, the Catalyst Control Center is another matter altogether and if you’re upgrading from a previous AMD card, be ready to face some possible issues.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
"As with every other multi core graphics cards, the success or failure of the HD 6990 largely hinges on AMD’s driver development team stepping up to the plate in a big way. As we saw in testing, its mission accomplished….for now. If they can keep this head of steam going and roll out application profiles in rapid order as the busy spring gaming season heats up, then early adopters should have nothing to fear. However, if Crossfire support for new games trickles out months after release, Antilles’ design could be rendered ineffective in short order. It should also be mentioned that while driver stability was spot-on, the Catalyst Control Center is another matter altogether and if you’re upgrading from a previous AMD card, be ready to face some possible issues."
drivers.....bleh....both such nice cards.sad
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/
Because the DX11 version is broken? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo75
Civ 5 has been broken since release (how many times have you seen the 560 or 570 beat the 580 for example?) yet it didn't stop every website benching it from day 1, and continuing to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vardant
Wonder why that was too? :shrug:
I would like to see how far 590 6990 overclock
It's a quiet dual-GPU solution, and it's dual-GTX 580 cores (albeit slower). I agree that the GTX 590 is innovative. I just wish it was slightly faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaktus1907
I'm holding off option till hi find out how it oc's
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Its faster than most people will ever need problem is most reviews still use stock cpus which can't take full advantage of these babies.
I think its more a problem for folks expecting this to crush the radeon than a fail on nvidias part. Fact of the mater is none expected amd to use full cayman chips on their card.
What speed do you need to not bottle neck? quad @ 4.5ghz?Quote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
Check out the lab501 article about cpu frequency scaling.
Disappointing in terms of OC ability. Hopefully the drivers really were the problem with the blown up cards. It would certainly be a bummer to brick a 700$ card.
I'd say Nvidia did a tremendous job in making the card in the first place, considering the power issues it has had with fermi. The card seems like a decent pick for those who want SLI performance in one slot and use the reference cooler. But that's a really small niche I'd say, and pretty much in all other circumstances it's better to go with SLI/Crossfire or 6990.
Hey OTH we need you to work your magic and make a nice clean consolidated thread for reviews! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Personally, I don't include it due to the number of bugs it exhibits. There's nothing like a crash to desktop when you're in the middle of a benchmark run.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo75
In addition, most sites use the Civ benchmarking tool which I find IS NOT representative of the in-game performance. So we don't bench Civ either. :up:
That's fair enough so long as a bit of consistency is shown. Anandtech for example has been benching the original DA:Origins since it was released, and also Civ 5 since release...but not DA 2 here?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I bet Crysis 2 is benched asap though with little regard given to the state of crossfire drivers.
Agree but that little less performance combined with power consuption and PRICE doesn't make it a nice offer for the customer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vardant
In my opinion nvdia would have done a better job with investing more money in 28nm and get rid of their monolitich technology.It's at the end here.
Though it's really really really quiet compared to 6990, but with 600mhz........
the people nit picking about performance differences arent serious buyers. they're just spectators. 6990 and 590 perform so similarly you can't tell the difference by looking at them. the only difference you can tell is a) the noise from 6990 and b) the lower speed of 590 in select games at triple monitor resolutions.
people with ears shouldnt buy 6990. people with 3x monitors who play metro 2033 shouldnt buy 590.
A less silly version of 6990, still not good enough to buy.
Performance per watt on the 590 is 20% less than 6990 according to TPU, and two of their game tests are nvidia biased games (in which a 570/580 would outperform the 6990 for example)Quote:
Originally Posted by bamtan2
The 6990 is loud (not like we don't know how to adjust fan speeds) but in a lot of games it will perform as well or better than the 590 I think.
xbitlabs used a 4.5ghz 6core :DQuote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
helps the 590 pull ahead...
i still think 6990 and 590 are too close to call a winner...
i guess if there had to be one, it would be the 590... but yeah, both can handle anything you throw at them...
i dont like nvidias way of handling ocp and power management... and their pwm seems to be weaker than that of a 6990 while they draw slightly more power... which is a shame as it probably limits the 590 when overclocking it...
if it were just up to the gpus, then a 590 would be the better overclocking card, but with this pwm its not that clear it seems...
if i could have either one for free, id pick a 6990 since im worried about those blow-up and ocp problems of the 590...
if that gets sorted, and there is an open power limitation implementation you can disable, like on the 6990, and it turns out the pwm can handle the two gpus when overclocking without popping, then id probably chose the 590 as it would clock better...
EDIT: but really... if somebody would offer me to get either a 6990 or 590 for free... id ask him "cant i have a single 580 instead?" :D
One word for "GTX 590": Disappointed!
This is just the % of the conclusion page... Lostplanet 2 in the bench list make the % difference is not what the difference in other games show ( when you have +20fps on the Nvidia one in this game. so a ~ +20%, this change many thing on final % difference ) .. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vardant
As expected BC2 and Dirt2 are win for the 590... ( it's maybe time for AMD to watch what happend on thoses games, there's no reason to get such difference in thoses games ) .. But all other are in favor of AMD..
...........
On other way, i agree with Sayaaa, the perfs are so close it's really hard to say one is a winner over the other..
Anyway, thanks again to Lab501, to make a review with Overclocked vs overclocked and with a good 2600K - 5ghz CPU chips ...
Why does it get called "inovative"? Nothing new there, except an OCP that not always works. :confused:
VERY quietQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Not all that bad on power consumption
Low temperatures
These three things together take it a few steps beyond past dual GPU cards.
Not everything is about performance....
been considering an upgrade so ive been waiting on the 590 reviews. it still seems to me the best "bang for your buck" is 2 x 6970's in crossfire... or maybe 3 x 6970's if you want something really powerful for the least amount of cashola
and mine would have full cover blocks so i dont really care about the noise. i know that brings the price up but no matter what vc's i buy they will be watercooled.
I agree, it's a titan war, they each have their advantages while neither is decisively dominant over the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
A good slug fest...
Really? in the high end ultra performance category, not everything is about performance? strange. so lower performing, higher power consumption and quite lower performance/watt doesn't count, and being a little quieter trumps all else! gotta love these ever moving goal posts.... :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
overall I think the GTX 590 is a real mixed bag.
-The minimum Frame rates are really good
-The temps are mind blowingly good (no one could have called this...)
-The power consumption is ok
-The physical size is impressive
-The noise output is really good....
But the overall perf is lower then a 6990 on average. I would say an average of about 5-10%. The thing that makes that really hard is that in some games it performs really really well in others not at all. Also it the high res high settings performance is all over the map as well. the 6990 beats it in Just Cause 2 at 2560 pretty decently but then the GTX 590 under surround.... but close to the opposite is true in AvP. Performance seems to be game Dependant.... the big thing for me tho is how little these seem to OC on stock voltage... they really dumped the voltage off to get the power under the 6990 and it seems to hurt the OC of the card a bunch. however I would like to see some OC results with some extra core voltage in afterburner.... that could make it far more attractive considering that you could get away with it on the stock cooling without getting crazy loud or hot....
it comes down to price I think which puts it neck and neck with the 6990....
I would say it is a more "N00B friendly" card considering that it's smaller and cooler and whatnot so for non enthusiast I would say its the better buy. for most XS users tho the 6990 seems to be your better bet considering the better performance. however added voltage in OCing could change all that.
No, it doesn't. But regardless of who you are, having a card that's easier to live with is a big step IMO. Saying gamers completely don't care about noise production is just ignorant. NVIDIA has shown that ultra high end performance DOESN'T NEED to come with a tradeoff in terms of high acoustics or high core temperatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by flippin_waffles
No one is saying it trumps all else; I have yet to read a review that praised the GTX 590 through and through. :up:
What a noise coming from HD 6990 !!! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by keiths
http://youtubedoubler.com/PNtr
Yes, both lab501 reviews are done with Catalyst 11.4 RC2 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tnc99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
Nice popamiro's :eek:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/066...fc863353e8.jpg
Instead they make a tradeoff of lower performance and higher power. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Yup, if you can't make it faster and the design is at it's limits, just pretend it was a design decision, and let marketing take over! :shakes: Of course the few that nv actually makes will find a home anyway, so it's all moot.