****Catalyst 11.4 early preview****

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Last Updated
3/7/2011
Article Number
gpu-102

AMD Catalyst™ 11.4 early preview – “Mjölnir”

AMD Catalyst™ Driver 11.4 early Preview Features:

· Delivers performance enhancements for the AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 Series & Windows 7.
· Includes enhancements to the AMD Catalyst Control Center™
o New task based Display Management controls
§ Simplifies the configuration of displays and display settings
o New Eyefinity setup group
§ Setting up an Eyefinity group has never been easier
o New branding (based on system configuration)
§ AMD based platform – AMD VISION Engine Control Center
§ Discrete AMD GPU with Intel CPU – AMD Catalyst Control Center™
o AMD Catalyst update notification (found within the Information Center)
§ Please note this functionality is not yet enabled, but will be in a future AMD Catalyst release
§ This feature will be used to notify users that new AMD Catalyst software packages are available

· Fixed cases where Dragon Age 2 would hang in DirectX11 on ATI Radeon™ HD 5800 Series products.

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http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...lypreview.aspx

Will 11.4 be a stable version which passes test with Stream SDK?

thx! ddling.

Are they going to fix the problem I have where when I hold my mouse over the catalyst icon on the bottom right of XP, the Temp says 0? It's really annoying....

How is there an 11.4 preview when the 11.3s aren't even out? Do they really work on drivers that far in advance?

No 11.4 preview for windows xp atm?

These drivers changed my Crash to Desktop in BF:BC2 into a hard lock. Step backwards from a very annoying problem, into a pain in the ass problem.

Played Stalker CoP all weekend in 3D without any problems.

This driver is currently the only version to be able to play Dragon Age 2 without crash. However it would cause the GPU load of the primary card to be stuck at 100% unless I reboot.

Display Driver works great on my HD 6990 but CCC crashed my pc constantly. Disabled it on startup and everything works now.

If it's not a benching rig why the hell is it still running XP? Only like 6 months until it's officially ten years old! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by CJ145

These drivers changed my Crash to Desktop in BF:BC2 into a hard lock. Step backwards from a very annoying problem, into a pain in the ass problem.

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No one else that I know of including myself has any such major BC2 issues. I play it daily still. Why don't you dial down that OC a little? Seriously, it'll help.

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Originally Posted by PaganII

Played Stalker CoP all weekend in 3D without any problems.

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What do you use for software and glasses?

Bug free so far but I'm not running CF.

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Originally Posted by tbone8ty

What do you use for software and glasses?

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Hi, the IZ3D 120 Hz driver and Viewsonic PDG-150 DLP glasses. The PDG-150s are the only glasses of any kind with a switch to invert the lens. you will look like Roy Orbison wearing them but I game for several hours at a time and not a problem.
The IZ3D driver is 50% off (~$20usd) if you have an AMD 5xxx or 6xxx card. http://www.iz3d.com/detect/ Discount at final checkout.
Also 30 day free trial. http://www.iz3d.com/driver
There is a new driver coming soon, 1.13, so watch for it.

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Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain

If it's not a benching rig why the hell is it still running XP? Only like 6 months until it's officially ten years old! :rofl:



No one else that I know of including myself has any such major BC2 issues. I play it daily still. Why don't you dial down that OC a little? Seriously, it'll help.

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It's not my overclock since it happens at stock, yet furmark runs fine for hours. BC2 has at least 4 causes of CTD. I found that I do not crash as long as I do not play on punkbuster servers. Go figure that punkbuster causes more problems than it solves. I have (and so has a friend with the same problem) tried every thing I have though of or read on the internet to fix it. The one I have only effects win 7 64bit users, not card related (but it changes the symptoms). 11.2 I crash to desktop, 10.12 crash to desktop, 11.4 hard lock. My friend has it on a nvidia gtx260, he will white screen and sometimes hardlock, but playing on a non punkbuster server fixes it as well.

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Originally Posted by CJ145

It's not my overclock since it happens at stock, yet furmark runs fine for hours. BC2 has at least 4 causes of CTD. I found that I do not crash as long as I do not play on punkbuster servers. Go figure that punkbuster causes more problems than it solves. I have (and so has a friend with the same problem) tried every thing I have though of or read on the internet to fix it. The one I have only effects win 7 64bit users, not card related (but it changes the symptoms). 11.2 I crash to desktop, 10.12 crash to desktop, 11.4 hard lock. My friend has it on a nvidia gtx260, he will white screen and sometimes hardlock, but playing on a non punkbuster server fixes it as well.

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I feel your annoyance. I've had similar issues on my 5970 with this game and a different set of drivers. I've just stopped playing it and moved on to other things, out of frustration.

Good jump in benchmarks on the crossfire setup. Extra 1000 pts vantage and 500 3DMARK11. Didn't take a screenshot of the 11.2 run on 3DMARK11.

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Originally Posted by gergregg

Good jump in benchmarks on the crossfire setup. Extra 1000 pts vantage and 500 3DMARK11. Didn't take a screenshot of the 11.2 run on 3DMARK11.

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This is scaring - 5850 CF can be so astonishing?! :eek:

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Originally Posted by gergregg

Good jump in benchmarks on the crossfire setup. Extra 1000 pts vantage and 500 3DMARK11. Didn't take a screenshot of the 11.2 run on 3DMARK11.

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Great clocks and scores! :up:

These drivers have been working great for me.

OK it seems to be some sort of "memory leakage" bug - If I don't reboot my machine for like 48 hours or so, the GPU load of the first card would stay at 100%, and any UAC prompt for user privilege elevation of Win7, or alt+tab switching into/out of game would cause seconds of lag.

I hope they fix this bug in the final release.

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Originally Posted by sniper_sung

OK it seems to be some sort of "memory leakage" bug - If I don't reboot my machine for like 48 hours or so, the GPU load of the first card would stay at 100%, and any UAC prompt for user privilege elevation of Win7, or alt+tab switching into/out of game would cause seconds of lag.

I hope they fix this bug in the final release.

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That bug has been there since all drivers after 10.10e

Some benchs comparing 11.1a Hotfix and 11.4 Preview

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7571/sshot387.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5342/sshot480.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9412/sshot481.jpg

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Originally Posted by Final8ty

That bug has been there since all drivers after 10.10e

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It's too bad to hear about that :( I

EDIT: by some googling it seems to be specific to 5000 series users (both single card users and CrossfireX users), but not yet to 6000 series. Is it true?

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Originally Posted by japamd

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9412/sshot481.jpg

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Wow, look at that lag spike, it just disappeared... Meh, I really don't want to install something that's in alpha stage... But it's very tempting! :D

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Originally Posted by CJ145

These drivers changed my Crash to Desktop in BF:BC2 into a hard lock. Step backwards from a very annoying problem, into a pain in the ass problem.

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I don't usually post in this forum, but I thought I should post in this thread to help you.

Do NOT bother to try to fix those hard lock ups.

It is nothing to do with your graphic cards, neither with your Drivers.

It happens both in Nvidia and ATI, but mainly in ATI with the 6000 series cards.

Here are hundreds of people complaining about it:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5401851.page

As you see, it mainly happens to people who use Punkbuster + 6000 series cards + Monitoring program (MSI Afterburner, TRixxx, EVGA Precission, GPU-Z...).

If you have any of those, close it, and try to play again, hard lock ups SHOULD dissapear (I say should, because they do not seem to help the issue for some people, but most people get this fixed by just closing those programs).

So yeah, don't blame the 11.4 Preview drivers, not their fault, it is completely Punkbuster's fault, it all started on Wednesday 9th March when Punkbuster released an update.

Many people are complaining about it, but Punkbuster didnt release any fix yet, so the only "fix" we have is to close MSI Afterburner (Or Whatever you're using for a custom fan profile or OSD monitoring) and enjoy the game.

So yeah, I hope I was able to help you.

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Originally Posted by kcuestag

I don't usually post in this forum, but I thought I should post in this thread to help you.

Do NOT bother to try to fix those hard lock ups.

It is nothing to do with your graphic cards, neither with your Drivers.

It happens both in Nvidia and ATI, but mainly in ATI with the 6000 series cards.

Here are hundreds of people complaining about it:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5401851.page

As you see, it mainly happens to people who use Punkbuster + 6000 series cards + Monitoring program (MSI Afterburner, TRixxx, EVGA Precission, GPU-Z...).

If you have any of those, close it, and try to play again, hard lock ups SHOULD dissapear (I say should, because they do not seem to help the issue for some people, but most people get this fixed by just closing those programs).

So yeah, don't blame the 11.4 Preview drivers, not their fault, it is completely Punkbuster's fault, it all started on Wednesday 9th March when Punkbuster released an update.

Many people are complaining about it, but Punkbuster didnt release any fix yet, so the only "fix" we have is to close MSI Afterburner (Or Whatever you're using for a custom fan profile or OSD monitoring) and enjoy the game.

So yeah, I hope I was able to help you.

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yea got that issue with afterburner and 11.4, punkbuster crashes comp.
off works fine.

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Originally Posted by flopper

yea got that issue with afterburner and 11.4, punkbuster crashes comp.
off works fine.

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It happens with any driver actually, not just 11.4

It's due to Punkbuster screwed up last update on Wednesday 9th March...

For some reason it no longer likes MSI Afterburner or any similar program that monitors and/or controls GPU's fan speed....

I hope it gets fixed soon, it's annoying that I have to manually set my fan speed on CCC to be able to play BC2.

AMD Catalyst 11.4 RC2 (March 9/11) Win7 x86/x64

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0KBLP1B0

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=340922

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Originally Posted by stasio

AMD Catalyst 11.4 RC2 (March 9/11) Win7 x86/x64

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0KBLP1B0

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=340922

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any another mirror ?

Keep trying, megaupload is just a bit buggy. Refresh the page a few times and it should work! :up:

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Keep trying, megaupload is just a bit buggy. Refresh the page a few times and it should work! :up:

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still buggy, hope can try with 6990

11.4 are working pretty good for me in Tri-Fire 6990+6970. I'm impressed. Rock-stable beta drivers! Who would have thaught that?

6990 launch is alot smoother then the 5970. :)

Good signs of what's coming from AMD in the next months.

Some Crossfire profiles are still flaky with the 6990, and it's normal, the card just came out... but it's surprisingly working well for me! DOW II Retribution, Borderlands, Dragon Age 2, Metro 2033, Stalker COP complete. I can't make then crash/freeze/BSOD! So disappointed. I'm sorry, not my fault. :( ... :)

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Originally Posted by kcuestag

I don't usually post in this forum, but I thought I should post in this thread to help you.

Do NOT bother to try to fix those hard lock ups.

It is nothing to do with your graphic cards, neither with your Drivers.

It happens both in Nvidia and ATI, but mainly in ATI with the 6000 series cards.

Here are hundreds of people complaining about it:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5401851.page

As you see, it mainly happens to people who use Punkbuster + 6000 series cards + Monitoring program (MSI Afterburner, TRixxx, EVGA Precission, GPU-Z...).

If you have any of those, close it, and try to play again, hard lock ups SHOULD dissapear (I say should, because they do not seem to help the issue for some people, but most people get this fixed by just closing those programs).

So yeah, don't blame the 11.4 Preview drivers, not their fault, it is completely Punkbuster's fault, it all started on Wednesday 9th March when Punkbuster released an update.

Many people are complaining about it, but Punkbuster didnt release any fix yet, so the only "fix" we have is to close MSI Afterburner (Or Whatever you're using for a custom fan profile or OSD monitoring) and enjoy the game.

So yeah, I hope I was able to help you.

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Disabling afterburner did indeed fix the hardlock I was getting. It's a shame that is the fix, but THANKS!!! I can actually play BC2 again, so happy lol. I still have a random CTD in BC2, and Vietnam will go to white/gray screen with vertical bars within 2 mins every time. I can actually stay online for more than 1 round now at least. :D

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Originally Posted by CJ145

Disabling afterburner did indeed fix the hardlock I was getting. It's a shame that is the fix, but THANKS!!! I can actually play BC2 again, so happy lol. I still have a random CTD in BC2, and Vietnam will go to white/gray screen with vertical bars within 2 mins every time. I can actually stay online for more than 1 round now at least. :D

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You're welcome, I'm glad I could help you out.

Little trifire on the 11.4's. More to follow. :D

Still a lot left in the 970 and need to tweak a bit to see how high I can get the 5850 cores in trifire.

AMD Catalyst 11.4 Early Preview (8.84.2 RC1 March 22) Win7 x86/x64

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/hotfix/radeon_...in7_march22.exe

AMD Catalyst 11.4 (8.84.2 RC2 March 23) Win7 x86/x64

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/hotfix/radeon_...in7_march23.exe

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1707/8842j.jpg

MAJOR issues installing the RC2 drivers with 3 5830's. Driver set doesnt want to install CCC for some reason, had to revert back to 10.5's. Spent 4 hours jacking with these, and had the 1st 11.4's installed with no issue...

Don't have a 6990 but have not had any trouble with ATI/AMD drivers since I quit using those driver cleaner/sweeper things and started following the manufacturers instructions for uninstalling/installing drivers. But, first I had to go through the entire registry and manually remove every ATI entry in there. No problems since.

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Originally Posted by PaganII

Don't have a 6990 but have not had any trouble with ATI/AMD drivers since I quit using those driver cleaner/sweeper things and started following the manufacturers instructions for uninstalling/installing drivers. But, first I had to go through the entire registry and manually remove every ATI entry in there. No problems since.

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Yea, although they can solve some issues, but running them every time you update a driver makes no sense. Unless you still run win xp that is ^^


edit: running the 11.4 RC2 on my two 6950/6970's. No issues so far, haven't noticed any difference from the 3/16/2011 dated ones. No CAP inc in these btw.

is this for win7 64bit ???

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Originally Posted by quattro_

is this for win7 64bit ???

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Win7 x86/x64

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Originally Posted by wez

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sorry,, i mean the driver in the OP not the RC2 .

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AMD Catalyst 11.4 (8.84.2 RC2 March 23) Win7 x86/x64

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/hotfix/r...n7_march23.exe

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no 11.3 this month i guess.driver in the server why they don't announce in the 6990 hotfix page?

edit:i was wrong there is 11.3

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

and march23 driver is online officially

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...lypreview.aspx

which one is new?

avp benchmark 1080, 6850 1000/1064, phenomII x4 3.3 ghz

11.3

32.5 fps

11.4 march23

34.2 fps

i think march23 is new but march7 driver 34 point something too so no avp improvements.

hmm try with 6990 soon

latest 11.4 (march 23rd) prevented me from loading League of Legends on win7 x64. Also, it's still not solving the CCC overdrive monitor flicker issue on my 5970. I had to reload 11.2 for a stable setup.

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Originally Posted by sniper_sung

This driver is currently the only version to be able to play Dragon Age 2 without crash. However it would cause the GPU load of the primary card to be stuck at 100% unless I reboot.

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I've had this issue once with my 5870 and the 11.3's recently. Wasn't Dragon Age 2, not actually sure what triggered it to be honest, just found it strange.

11.4 is broken for me in crossfire with 2x 6970. I've installed/uninstalled the driver countless times with no luck. I used ATI's recommended method of going through the control panel and then I follow behind each uninstall with Driver Sweeper 2.9.

I have even done TWO fresh installs of W7 x64 and installed 11.4 and crossfire is still broken.

Anyone know how to get them to work?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by BLHealthy4life

11.4 is broken for me in crossfire with 2x 6970. I've installed/uninstalled the driver countless times with no luck. I used ATI's recommended method of going through the control panel and then I follow behind each uninstall with Driver Sweeper 2.9.

I have even done TWO fresh installs of W7 x64 and installed 11.4 and crossfire is still broken.

Anyone know how to get them to work?

Thanks

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Uninstall all drivers -> Take out one card -> install drivers with just one card -> plug in second card

That usually does the trick

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Originally Posted by wez

Uninstall all drivers -> Take out one card -> install drivers with just one card -> plug in second card

That usually does the trick

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Never thought of that!

I will try it and report back.

Thanks for the advice!

BL

Ok..

You are not going to believe this...b/c I can't.

So I uninstall Catalyst 11.3 through the control panel using the "change" has recommended by ATI. I then booted into safe mode and ran Driver Sweeper 2.9.

I physically uninstalled one of my cards. I then load into Windows and install 11.4 3/29 driver. It gives me a HDMI/DP failure (like every other f*cking time)....I restart the machine and then shutdown.

I install my second card with bridge. I boot my machine and when it gets to Windows, the screen remains dark. I wiat a few minutes and nothing shows up so I shutdown the machine.

Reboot and I get to Windows desktop, however, according to ATI, there is no driver installed now...it magically disappeared. So I install 11.4 AGAIN.

I run Lost Planet 2 bench and crossfire is broken....!!!!!!!!!

Am I somehow continuing to download the retard version of 11.4?! This is really starting to piss me off.

Edit: just reinstalled 11.3. Crossfire works no problem.....
BL

i once heard with the new catalyst drivers using driversweeper screws tons of things up. I have seen numerous posts on this board advising against using driversweeper for the new ati/amd drivers

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Originally Posted by Circaflex

i once heard with the new catalyst drivers using driversweeper screws tons of things up. I have seen numerous posts on this board advising against using driversweeper for the new ati/amd drivers

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I had major issues with even 10.9+ catalysts running driversweeper on windows 7. Eventually, I just decided against it. Usually now the most I do is uninstall a driver, restart the machine, let it install whatever default WDDM driver it wants, then install the new catalysts over those.

either that, or just install the new catalysts over the old, which actually works surprisingly. W7 is just odd the way it handles graphics drivers compared to the older OS's.

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Originally Posted by ex2cib

I had major issues with even 10.9+ catalysts running driversweeper on windows 7. Eventually, I just decided against it. Usually now the most I do is uninstall a driver, restart the machine, let it install whatever default WDDM driver it wants, then install the new catalysts over those.

either that, or just install the new catalysts over the old, which actually works surprisingly. W7 is just odd the way it handles graphics drivers compared to the older OS's.

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If Driver Sweeper really messed things up, then Catalyst 11.2 and 11.3 wouldn't work right for me b/c I've used DS inbetween both several times.

I've tried installing 11.4 over top of 11.3 with no luck as well....

These drivers are like Simple Jack in Tropic Thunder - "Full Retard".

BL

There is no mention of using any kind of driver sweeper/cleaner in the ATI/AMD uninstall/install instructions. :)
I used the same archaic methods of installing drivers that I learned years ago from some website. It does not work and is no longer necessary. In fact it screwed things up so bad that I had to manually remove all ATI entries in the registry before I could get the ATI/AMD recommended method to work and have not had a problem since (about a year). It just takes a couple of mouse clicks and a reboot to install these drivers now.
Really, it is that easy.

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Originally Posted by PaganII

There is no mention of using any kind of driver sweeper/cleaner in the ATI/AMD uninstall/install instructions. :)
I used the same archaic methods of installing drivers that I learned years ago from some website. It does not work and is no longer necessary. In fact it screwed things up so bad that I had to manually remove all ATI entries in the registry before I could get the ATI/AMD recommended method to work and have not had a problem since (about a year). It just takes a couple of mouse clicks and a reboot to install these drivers now.
Really, it is that easy.

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I know that there is no mention of using Driver Sweeper in ATI's instructions. :)

I've uninstalled the drivers using only ATI's uninstall method and installed 11.4and crossfire is still broken.

Also, I previously mentioned that I've done TWO, yes TWO, fresh W7 x64 installs with 11.4 and BOTH times crossfire was broken....

Any explanation how 11.4 crossfire fails to work on two seperate fresh OS installs?

Seriously, I've tried anything that you could think of to get these 11.4s to work....

Ya it is weird that 11.3 works for you and 11.4 does not because 11.4 apparently works for some people. I was going to suggest disabling Cat A.I. but if 11.3 works you probably already tried that. Makes me want to order another card just to try it as running 3D cuts frame rates in half (must render 2 images).

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Originally Posted by PaganII

Ya it is weird that 11.3 works for you and 11.4 does not because 11.4 apparently works for some people. I was going to suggest disabling Cat A.I. but if 11.3 works you probably already tried that. Makes me want to order another card just to try it as running 3D cuts frame rates in half (must render 2 images).

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I used the 11.4 beta when I installed my 6850 last month, then I updated it by unistalling the beta and installing the latest 11.4 last week. So far so good. I'm using an H67 with the intel igp for TV out, no issues to speak of. I personally think 11.4 is a step in the right direction, hopefully it becomes official soon.

I have found a bug is 11.3 enabling gpu scaling makes the color go 16 bit.
My windows aero disables to wth because of 16 bit color wth :/

I have like a stuck frame on my tv in media center in full screen if I enable it this it stops it.
this has happened to me before with my tv tuner (ati 650 pro theater)