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Is 75 C typical for an E4500 at stock Vcore?
I reseated my Thermaltake V1 countless times and still get high Linpack temps.
That's at 310x9.0.
With Windows Vista 64-bit. Linpack in 64-bit mode.
And tried many different paste application methods.
I want to go for 3.1 or 2.9, maybe 3.0, but this thing seems as hot as a Core i7. lol.
But, I'm 1 hour LinX stable at 2.79, even when at almost 80 C. (estimated, based on RealTemp assuming 100 C TJMax)
Usually no higher than 63 C with Prime95.
no thats not a normal temp thats quite high...maybe the thermal probe is incorrect
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
Am I forced to take off the IHS?
check the motherboard probe as well if its stable i don't think its running quite that highQuote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
No he's saying there is an issue with the thermal probe not reading correctly. Maybe you can update your bios and see if it fixes your issue. Also make sure nothing is set to auto in the bios when it comes with voltage settings. Sometimes the motherboard goes overboard with voltage adjustments. You can also take a straight edge and see if the IHS is leveled.
The temp reading is the core temps. With Real Temp. Sorry about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
check what your motherboard says the temp is in the BIOS or with a windows based client if that doesn't read 70C then your probably fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
The cpu has a built in thermal sensor, so motherboard sensors are irrelevant.
If your using realtemp, or coretemp then your reading from the built-in sensor.
I have a e4300 in one machine and yes it can get really hot at stock voltage, it will do ~2750mhz on stock volts, and will load in the 70's depending what is loading it, i.e. prime95 10k fft's will really make it sweat.
Also I've seen i7's get way hotter when running stress test's, so no I don't think it's quite as hot as i7,
and mid 70's arent that bad especially considering your running stress test, your normal apps won't load it as hot.
With Prime95, it's only 63 C.
Do prime95 10k ffts's and I bet you see it get way hotter.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
Do custom torture test settings enter min FFT 10k, and max FFT 10k
Still less than 70 C. I get 67 C.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
Well good, your doing better than mine. Your CPU temps are fine:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
I've had my e4300 for about 4 years now and I have abused the hell out of it, and it still works just fine, so no need to worry.
I hate 4xxx series !
I had 4600 and..
http://s59.radikal.ru/i166/0907/78/769350713051.jpg
On air :D
3.3 is very low overclock imo
Wait so because a less stressful stress test didn't heat it as much the chip is magically ok? :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
P5QL may not push it high
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
right :yepp:
What is he gonna do, buy a high end cooling solution for a low end CPU? FAIL!Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
By the time he spends the $$$ to tame that CPU he could buy a faster and cooler 45nm E5500 for less.
Also don't even bother suggesting him to lap it. I lapped mine and it made no difference.
I say just use it like it is, and perhaps beef up the fans/airflow in your case.
I said leave it if you read my post if its stable its not overheating temp sensor is probably just wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
Stop thread crapping. It's not some stinkin' E2140.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
I'm not even maxing out the FSB. The P5QL Pro easily does 363 with other RAM I have. (but it's only 1 GB)Quote:
Originally Posted by bekuna
I had an E4500 on the same board I currently have. It only did 3200Mhz or so. Wasn't a great CPU, but then my board isn't a great board!
in all honesty the V1 is garbage for air cooling look into a hyper212 if you want cheap better...my e4500 hit a bit higher but was on a P5Q-pro
Sorry:D. I was not trying to bash your CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
hyper212 is $30, if he saved up ~$30 more he could get a faster and cooler CPUQuote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
This guy is a pull from an Acer, because the Acer mobo can't OC. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
And the Acer mobo took the E2180 that was taken out of my Asus P5QL Pro mobo. (During August, 2009)
:Ok so to sum it up you have this e4500, and your concerned with it being too hot (I think your fine), the only option that you have is to upgrade your cooling or just live with it. If you upgrade your cooling then your out more $$ that could be used towards a newer, faster, lower power, and cooler cpu.
I say live with it, like I said you are fine in the temps that you have. I have, and have had many many many intel CPU's some ran hot some run cool, I have never once killed a CPU in my 15+ years of professional computer experience. The worse that will happen is at about ~90c your computer will just shutdown or reboot.
Good luck, and don't stress, your fine:up:
what intel chip even used is $30? cant find an e5200 for that much even now :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
$30 he could get this chip clocked a smidge bit more extend its life and down the road shove that cooler onto some other chip.
Guys, I haven't gave up. I'm thinking about lapping and have Arctic Silver 5.
use the $30 for the heatsink fan you suggest + save up $30 "MORE" gets a e5400. 30 + 30 = 60Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
http://www.pugetsystems.com/store/it...6&com=d41d8cd9
I did not say he could could get a better cpu for $30, read man!
I'm saying dont wast money ($30 what your suggesting) buying another cooler when he can get a faster/cooler/lower power/newer/all around better cpu for $60.
OR he can just live with it! Contrary to what your trying to tell him, his temps are not that bad!!!!
I DID lap my e4300, and i gained nothing! wast of time!!!! but yeah try the as5, a small rice size dot in the middleQuote:
Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP
so because your chip sucked his is doomed to it as well? i ran an e4300 to 4.5ghz on water without an issue maybe you just couldn't clock yours as well e5200 only got a few 100-200mhz more iirc heck i had an e1200 at 3800mhz on air :/Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
Hes not doomed his temps are not horrible, why cant you get that?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
Your just adding panic to this guy, and there is no reason for it!!!
all i said was a cooler would help his current one isn't that great and you have decided he needs to spend more money to get a chip that will end up having the same exact problem because the root of the issue is not fixed the cooler is not great doesn't matter what chip he puts under it nothing will fix thatQuote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
Jees, your the one that suggested him to shell out $$ ( on $30 heatsink) in the first place, i just said if hes got $$ to spend that why not got a little further and get a better CPU. Anyhow this is all pointless becuase his CPU is fine at the temps he has. Also I call total BS on your claim of 4.5ghz with a e4300, no freaking way, not on a 65nm chip unless your doing sub zero cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdawall
chilled water cooling...closer to 4.3ghz from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNutz
still dont see how shelling out $60 when a $30 heatsink fixes the entire issue. a $60 chip still doesn't take care of the overheating caused by a worse than stock HSF
Ok I see you point. A better heatsink is the solution:up: good luck
I installed a heatsink with a screw and back plate mount. Hooray.
I can't trust the Thermaltake V1, especially when a heatpipe one seems to be doing bad. I actually see better temps with a screw and back plate mounted one from an Acer!
So, the Thermaltake V1 is now in the Acer Aspire.