The first Bulldozer supported AM3+ mobo from MSI (Big Bang Theory...I mean Conqueror)

Probably it features the upcoming 990FX+SB950 chipset combo. Military Class II (hopefully real) 10 phases DrMOS PWM, 6xSATA III, 4xUSB 3.0 ports, 2xESATA,(CH IV style heatsinks :D), etc.


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source: ComputerBase


So, this mobo looks promising. What I'm really missing is that the simple V-Check points. I don't know why MSI can't put it onto a high-end (AMD) mobo while already the cheaper microATX LGA1155 H67MA-HD55 has it.

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Maybe it's an "Intel only" feautre....who knows. :shrug:

....aand there is no additional internal SATA port for the ODD. So, MSI if you hear me then please...:D

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Anyway it really looks cool...no any doubt... :D

nice looking board

Millitary spec? Everyone who's in the military knows they pretty much only use Dell or Tough books.

u dont need the extra sata controller on amd, ports 0-3 can operate in one mode then 4/5 can operate in that mode or IDE, so u dont have the problem that u can get on the older amd parts or intel were u need the jmicron or some OS installs will fail from bad drivers as the ODD needs to be in IDE mode.

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Originally Posted by StAndrew

Millitary spec? Everyone who's in the military knows they pretty much only use Dell or Tough books.

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isnt that for caps and resistors to match military aeronautics and weapons electronics grade (and they are surprisingly not that high end)

black socket, nice...
and yeah the heatsink looks very familiar... :D
it looks good, but i find it pretty sad msi didnt come up with their own design and so blatently copied another one :/

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

u dont need the extra sata controller on amd, ports 0-3 can operate in one mode then 4/5 can operate in that mode or IDE, so u dont have the problem that u can get on the older amd parts or intel were u need the jmicron or some OS installs will fail from bad drivers as the ODD needs to be in IDE mode.

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You can do it on ASUS and Gigabyte mobo but AFAIK MSI does not support this option. BTW, if anyone wants to use six SDD+HDD then that is still not an option. :D IMHO it would be desirable to have a single extra port at least for this purpose on such a mobo. P67A-GD65 has two extra onboard ports.:rolleyes:

Anyway, who needs two eSATA ports?

notice the socket needs the processor to have pins, not pads?

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notice the socket needs the processor to have pins, not pads?

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Yes,it's AM3+,it's supposed to be that way.Socket has support for both next generation Bulldozer and previous gen. X6/X4 chips.

When talking about the voltage reading points, did everybody miss that blue block by t he SATA ports? Maybe that's the new position vor Vpoints, which are turned at 90°. Or it could be just some random connector for some MSI station.

EDIT: watched the video, yes, it's a connector. But maybe the Vpoints will plug into that.

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When talking about the voltage reading points, did everybody miss that blue block by t he SATA ports? Maybe that's the new position vor Vpoints, which are turned at 90°. Or it could be just some random connector for some MSI station.

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I'm fairly sure that the blue block is connector for the two front panel USB 3.0 port.

I need to see some leak Bulldozer test

Its soon, maybe in next 2 months we will see first leak benchmarks

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You can do it on ASUS and Gigabyte mobo but AFAIK MSI does not support this option. BTW, if anyone wants to use six SDD+HDD then that is still not an option. :D IMHO it would be desirable to have a single extra port at least for this purpose on such a mobo. P67A-GD65 has two extra onboard ports.:rolleyes:

Anyway, who needs two eSATA ports?

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i thought since it was in the spec for the SB8xx that every1 would use it, and i use esata but i dont get why u need 2 when u can use a port multiplier.

a better question is since most people only use the optical drive for ripping and OS installs/repairs or not at all, why even have an internal drive anymore. there is no speed gain from being internal over usb3 or esata and im guessing u could not tell the difrence on usb2 or firewire.


also for the pwm, remember that the am3+ uses the server spec PWM so it has multiple voltage phases, so that nice looking pwm has to feed 3 or 4 different voltages or power cores individually (or in pairs), so amd boards will need some giant pwms to keep up or not meet spec to work with per core voltage throttling (like am3 on the thulban parts)

My next mobo!Perfect layout! :up:

Now if there were more decent looking and affordable XL-ATX cases... Or is that just E-ATX?

SLI support? Thats the deal breaker for me

When!? I need a new mobo :(

can't figure out socket am3+ has 942 pins which is only 1 pin more than am3; could it be, when you insert AM3 processor, without the pin detected, it will run at different I/O?

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can't figure out socket am3+ has 942 pins which is only 1 pin more than am3; could it be, when you insert AM3 processor, without the pin detected, it will run at different I/O?

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Likely, similar to how Socket AM3 only has 938 vs 939 for AM2/AM2+ (or something like that). AM2 is only HT1, and AM2+ has split power planes or something like that. AM3 has DDR3 and HT3 (though I think AM2+ has HT3?).

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can't figure out socket am3+ has 942 pins which is only 1 pin more than am3; could it be, when you insert AM3 processor, without the pin detected, it will run at different I/O?

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no, am3+ cpu-s will have more pins than am3 cpu`s(+1,2 pins); and that`s because will have to fit only in his socket am3+;
am3 cpus can enter in am3, am2, and am3+ because of lack of key/pins;

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Originally Posted by PatRaceTin

I need to see some leak Bulldozer test

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they will come soon ... now that we are starting to see es mobo's we are bound to have some leaks by someone soon

The first leak came much sooner than I'd thought, I hope they'll suprise us with Bulldozer.

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

they will come soon ... now that we are starting to see es mobo's we are bound to have some leaks by someone soon

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Not necessarily, this is AMD. We might have nearly no info till the actual launch.

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Originally Posted by Sentential

SLI support? Thats the deal breaker for me

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there is a very simple hack to use SLi on amd not supported chipsets with every nvidia driver, just google it

edit: http://xdevs.com/e107_plugins/conten...php?content.30

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Not necessarily, this is AMD. We might have nearly no info till the actual launch.

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your right .. we might not .. or we might see a leak in the wild .. in the form of someone inside of asus msi or even giga .... its them who have access to cpus to verify their microcodes or whatever works with their bios before launch .... and i assumed that it would be this way if we see a leak soon ... not directly from amd

Looks decent, hopefully they can bring up the reliability of their MB up to spec.

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Looks decent, hopefully they can bring up the reliability of their MB up to spec.

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I've pushed my GD70 pretty hard on both air and water and not had any issues. I've not had any problems with this G65 either. Though it seems like a luck of the draw but I've had no issues with my first and past two MSI motherboards.

From my understanding, not a single motherboard died at MSI's MOA event. That says a lot about their new PWM design at least...

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From my understanding, not a single motherboard died at MSI's MOA event. That says a lot about their new PWM design at least...

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the old K9A2 CF were utter crap, but honestly a sub 100$ AMD motherboard with a heatsink on fets is going to be pretty reliable considering the price paid. the difference between a 80$ and 200$ board is not much for average users and OCer, and thats a good thing with so many AMD fans loving the price/perf offered.

This black remind me my old Neo2 Platinum (if I am correct) :)

It's a good-looking mobo, i hope msi turns this one out right. Anyone have any idea if EVGA will be putting out any AM3+ boards??

Unlikely, since they haven't made any AMD boards so far.

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Anyone have any idea if EVGA will be putting out any AM3+ boards??

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Probably do as many AM3+ as they did AM3 and AM2.

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Originally Posted by MrMojoZ

Probably do as many AM3+ as they did AM3 and AM2.

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The only way I can see eVGA making an AMD board is if Bulldozer really brings the heat. I don't think there's technically anything stopping them from producing AMD based boards but that's not really the market that they cater too. I mean it is, but in their eyes it probably isn't.

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

they will come soon ... now that we are starting to see es mobo's we are bound to have some leaks by someone soon

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At this time I'd be happy to see some results of older AM3 chips in this new AM3+ board.

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Originally Posted by MrMojoZ

Probably do as many AM3+ as they did AM3 and AM2.

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They have made AM2/AM2+ boards before. Mostly due to the nForce chipset supporting it :)
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813188016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188036
So I shall expect 2 AM3+ mobos from eVGA... haHA!

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The only way I can see eVGA making an AMD board is if Bulldozer really brings the heat. I don't think there's technically anything stopping them from producing AMD based boards but that's not really the market that they cater too. I mean it is, but in their eyes it probably isn't.

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eVGA's mobo team left for the Sapphire pastures some time ago. Maybe not everybody, but enough to get in the news. :p:

interesting with the pins - i thought they'd moved over to LGA like with there opterons?

Still - I'm really looking forward to BD - i want to move from intel (e8500) to a AMD setup

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interesting with the pins - i thought they'd moved over to LGA like with there opterons?

Still - I'm really looking forward to BD - i want to move from intel (e8500) to a AMD setup

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since AM3 cpus have to fit into AM3+ boards the changes could not be very drastic

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Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

interesting with the pins - i thought they'd moved over to LGA

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What prompted you to think that? Was it just an assumption? I've not heard any rumors of LGA desktop chips. The last word on the subject was AMD saying they have no plans for LGA outside of servers.

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What prompted you to think that? Was it just an assumption? I've not heard any rumors of LGA desktop chips. The last word on the subject was AMD saying they have no plans for LGA outside of servers.

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I just assumed that it would be a natural progression with them using it with opterons

Socket AM3b:

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

From my understanding, not a single motherboard died at MSI's MOA event. That says a lot about their new PWM design at least...

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Maybe DrMOS based PWM is not the best for extrem OC but it's still very good for a reasonable 24/7 OC with air or water. It's efficient and gives stable voltages which is sadly not an evident thing on many ASUS mobos for example.:shakes:

WOw 943 pin???????

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Originally Posted by PatRaceTin

WOw 943 pin???????

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