[AwardFabrik] SandyBridge 2600K @5589 MHZ - first run air & compressorcooled

...I am still a bit confused why the reviews and NDA was lifted earlier than expected - as everything was reveiled today I just rushed through some benches today...first on air, afterwards on singlestage...cold didn't really help, seemed to be hard to get good RAM-speed under cold (but I have trouble running 2133mhz on air anyway).

Let's start 1m first:

5589 MHZ 1m 6.688s (singlestage cooled)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4109/55891m6688.png

CPUz Valid @5500 MHZ

5585 pifast 13.3s :slobber:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6025/sbpifast.th.jpg

5500 MHZ wprime32m (singlestage cooled)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7738/5500wprime32m.jpg

Here is some 1m on air:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6...m155v6781s.png

3D Mark 2001 (full aircooled nothing special!) seems to like SandyBridge :up:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3...gtx01sb.th.jpg

03 with 465 GTX aircooled

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3455/3ys72d7n.jpg

05 with 465 GTX aircooled

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/187...tx45975.th.jpg

480 GTX @5588 maybe tomorrow :yepp:

regards
SoF

Mmmm good job! :up::up: Could you tell us what the real Vcore was? (I read somewhere that cpu-z was not stating the real one as of now :cool: ).

What kind of temps were you pulling on the chip and evap on your single stage?

I'm starting to think a weaker single stage, like the OCZ Cryo-Z would be ideal for these things.

I have ~42-44°C read directly on the evap. It fires on with a bit vccsa voltage (~1.05-1.1). it shows 1-2°C in bios after a while with 1.6V+ - boots better after beeing in bios compared to full cold boot. first booting is sometimes a bit hard, after a while it get's easier. having a constant temp is hard for wprime - can' get it running for 1024m 5500 :/ testing 480 gtx now :D

Nice runs :up: I'm pretty exciting about the massive clockspeed jumps we've been seeing since ~December. I can only hope 6GHz will be eventually reached through max multi + a little bclk magic.

Quick '01 110K with 480 GTX :)

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/7931/m6msnol4.th.png

It's great to see some good numbers with the SB.:up: As bioses mature, it will only get better.
Nice job SoF :up:

Nice speeds on that chip SoF :cool:

omg that is beautiful. the on air numbers are with stock hsf?

I dont even know where to start? Im so confused.
i see 100 bus speed and 56 multi and sub 7 sec. spi1m

What CPU cooler did you use for the air tests and what was the room temperature ?

Thanks all!

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Nice runs :up: I'm pretty exciting about the massive clockspeed jumps we've been seeing since ~December. I can only hope 6GHz will be eventually reached through max multi + a little bclk magic.

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As soon as we see some scaling with cold it shouldn't be a problem - so far my singlestage just helped me getting temps a bit lower under load but the next wall is around 5.6 now. and I had some more trouble with booting ;)

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Originally Posted by runmc

It's great to see some good numbers with the SB.:up: As bioses mature, it will only get better.
Nice job SoF :up:

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Thanks man! Yeah I think we still need to learn some more things about the bios - it's interesting to know what these little options actually do ;)

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Nice speeds on that chip SoF :cool:

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ty!

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Originally Posted by darckhart

omg that is beautiful. the on air numbers are with stock hsf?

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grand karma cross with arctic silver - need to get a better air cooler or start using the watercooling on my table which I actually never used before :D

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Originally Posted by trans am

I dont even know where to start? Im so confused.
i see 100 bus speed and 56 multi and sub 7 sec. spi1m

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start with 50x100 1.4V to see if it is a good chip, 1.6 max under air only single core benches I would recommend ;)

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Originally Posted by SoF

Thanks all!



As soon as we see some scaling with cold it shouldn't be a problem - so far my singlestage just helped me getting temps a bit lower under load but the next wall is around 5.6 now. and I had some more trouble with booting ;)



Thanks man! Yeah I think we still need to learn some more things about the bios - it's interesting to know what these little options actually do ;)



ty!



grand karma cross with arctic silver - need to get a better air cooler or start using the watercooling on my table which I actually never used before :D



start with 50x100 1.4V to see if it is a good chip, 1.6 max under air only single core benches I would recommend ;)

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what about cold boot bug?

rig pic

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2396/syssmall1.jpg

480 GTX set of benches all with compressor but I think the brave ones will reach it on air :hehe:

01 110800

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8277/01110800.th.jpg

03 125k

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/576/03125k.th.jpg

05 49380

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3021/0549380.th.jpg

06 35360

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8099/...tx35360.th.jpg

SOF nice runs mate, Do you think watercooling would even be all that useful compare to air on these chips?

Nice results right there , seems that the platform clocks pretty well on air .

May I ask what was the room temp at the run ?

If you have a hot chip (Not every Sb seems to be cool) it's definitely helpful to have watercooling.

Maybe chilled wc is best for Sb OC.

Fair nough @rne, From all the screenshots which have been posted here on XS, seems like your more vcore limited rather them temps..

Awsome Sof Thanks For share

what about Cb and CBB?

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Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Fair nough @rne, From all the screenshots which have been posted here on XS, seems like your more vcore limited rather them temps..

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Thats right.

The increase of internal vPLL just changes the maximum core frequency into another range. Benching there needs higher vcore, so something to keep the lifespan of your cpu accetable is required. And if you need high vcore and have a hot chip, you won't get those frequencies stable with aircooling.
In my view, there is no headroom above if the internal vPLL won't be further increased or some guru will find a way to let the chip scale with cold. Then the best coolingmethod to bench will change.

Somehow it feels "5GHz for everyone" is coming closer and closer... I mean, not everyone has powerful cooling systems, 5GHz on air 24/7 should be possible in a near future ;)

Nice runs... performance seems to be very good in Pi...
So hopefully the cold-scaling and the multi-problem will be fixed in the next days/weeks.
I think the BCLK wall is acceptable with multis up to 65 :)

Thanks fpr sharing your results :up:

nice thread dude, i love 01 results with SB :up:

:eek: SB is a real killer !! thats for sure

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Originally Posted by Johnny87au

SOF nice runs mate, Do you think watercooling would even be all that useful compare to air on these chips?

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TY! Yeah water will be very helpfull when it comes holding the chip cool past 1.5V in benches like Vantage and wprime1024 :)

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Originally Posted by dany74q

Nice results right there , seems that the platform clocks pretty well on air .

May I ask what was the room temp at the run ?

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Should be around 18°C here at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Johnny87au

[...]seems like your more vcore limited rather them temps..

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for single core benches yes it seems so but you never know what can happen with the next bios :D

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Originally Posted by BaRaN

Awsome Sof Thanks For share

what about Cb and CBB?

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RAM CL8 1866 on air no problem, on singlestage gives "63" postcode often. 1600 runs fine but not with good timings - looks like something with the imc (vccsa voltage also seems to be a bit helpfull when having boot issues with a bit under zero). I think anything below DICE is not usefull atm singlestage seems ok - make sure to be prepared for full load on 2600K 4C/8T.

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Originally Posted by NaMcO

Somehow it feels "5GHz for everyone" is coming closer and closer... I mean, not everyone has powerful cooling systems, 5GHz on air 24/7 should be possible in a near future ;)

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with water and good chips I don't see a problem there :)

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Originally Posted by loopy83

Nice runs... performance seems to be very good in Pi...
So hopefully the cold-scaling and the multi-problem will be fixed in the next days/weeks.
I think the BCLK wall is acceptable with multis up to 65 :)

Thanks fpr sharing your results :up:

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Originally Posted by hiwa

nice thread dude, i love 01 results with SB :up:

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Thanks guys! Yeah 01 is really fun - and if we get like 400 MHZ more together with good RAM clocks it will make an old game shine :)

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Originally Posted by PytonOrm

:eek: SB is a real killer !! thats for sure

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YEAH and it also rocks in pifast :slobber:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6025/sbpifast.th.jpg

Looking really promising for Sandy Bridge :D

Just Awesome and amazing done SOF !!! :eek: :woot: its a killer.. will order couple of these :D

:up: keep it up dude

Nice results! Show us more benches. :yepp:

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

What kind of temps were you pulling on the chip and evap on your single stage?

I'm starting to think a weaker single stage, like the OCZ Cryo-Z would be ideal for these things.

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Well, if air can hold 5.5GHz, then I suppose you are right! :up:

Any Vantage tests we can expect? :)

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Any Vantage tests we can expect? :)

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Sure why not :)

28214 with GTX 480 :up - €dit: oops need to rerun without physx

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9...03828th.th.png

disable PhysX :p:

ooops yes I always forget to disable it when switching cards :p

Vantage is old now run 3Dmark11 i dont see any benchmark in this forum :(

Awsome start extreme with Sb SoF ! and your chip really rock :up:

well what about temp on full load with air cooling and i saw you talk to vccsa voltage, what this voltage helping ? my chip now i can boot max only 4.8ghz and it need vccsa about 1.05V too :)

btw. love to see 3D01 back to benching again :D

A request for SoF..would like to see this cpu in my list with this Chess test! Thankx..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=202139

JP.

he he :yepp: nicely done sof its like the old core 2 duo days these things are 3d killers luvvin it

Is this a joke or real..Nice run Sof..:D

someone lend sof a few cards for some sli crossfire action

Nice CPU on air
I love SB

lol love the compressorcooled :rofl: good job man, hope to see other nice bioses soon.

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Originally Posted by GLENBOY

someone lend sof a few cards for some sli crossfire action

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Testing some sli :rofl:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5659/stagersmall.jpg

@hiwa yeah waiting for something new to play with - maybe adjustable internal pll voltage?...

Well done SoF, i was going to give SB a miss but your making me want to play :)

[QUOTE=SoF;4693131]Testing some sli :rofl:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5659/stagersmall.jpg

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luvvly jubbly :yepp::yepp:

awesome! asus must be really happy they got your support :D
so others now got higher multis working as well now, nice :D

5.6 sounds very nice... sandy is looking less and less btch-y :D

I whish ASUS would send me the Maximus but only stuwi got one :p: :D But no complains here, they did a good job with the bios so far - hope for some more oc-related voltages to be unlocked, I think there are still some new things we haven't figured out yet. 5.6 for the moment is very nice for sure - been benching some things the last 2 days and it's been the best processor launch since 3 years I would say.

Looking back - 2 years ago there was Phenom II which was ok but didn't took scores to any new heights, then last year there was Gulftown which had new highscores but at high costs. 1156 was doing well for the first 2 month 2010 with LN2 but with usual cooling it wasn't usable for fun hw-benching. with 2500K we have a 200€ chip that can do sub 13,5s pifast, 6.8s 1m, sub 7 minutes 32m, 115K 01 on air with some luck - everybody can do something nice now :) 2600K is a nice "on-top" with wprime 4x capabilities and 06 old-school runs (and a bit better selected I would say ;) ).

question is, how is the limit SB CPUs...Need some CPU with more than 57x multiplier or tweaked it for validation with 110blck + 57x (6270 MHz) or Z68 chipset :)

Great 2600k,SOF

My cpu high Vcore 1.688v @ air cooling

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1579342


maybe 100pic/ 60*100 ,one/pic, :)

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Originally Posted by Ivanqu

Great 2600k,SOF

My cpu high Vcore 1.688v @ air cooling

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1579342


maybe 100pic/ 60*100 ,one/pic, :)

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Aren't you afraid of killing it shoving so much voltage on air?

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Aren't you afraid of killing it shoving so much voltage on air?

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NO,I want RMA! This cpu dead AIR VCORE 1.72 :mad:

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Originally Posted by Ivanqu

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1579342
NO,I want RMA! This cpu dead AIR VCORE 1.72 :mad:

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Very nice work on air - and don't be angry u get my "golden medal of braveness" for 1st to officially kill sb with vcore on air :up: :D

Congratz for killing your CPU \o/

tested my 2nd good cpu and it did 5.53 on singlestage - but I matched stuwi's wprime32 at less MHZ HAHA :p:

http://s5.directupload.net/images/11...p/feqq38v4.jpg

wow SOF, u can run that @ 24/7 usage, such low voltage!

Jesus SoF, is that cpuz vcore reporting correct? :clap:

Grats mate - do I see a 5590 32MB on the desktop ? :D

this one runs a bit colder but can't to 5578 booting - good allday chip but nothing for benching all night long - currently i am testin my other one again...2 days I said until crackin' stuwi's 32m -.-
voltages are always ok fyi! :)

anyone tryed running 3dmark06 with HT??
I haven't seen no results so I'm just curious :)

yeah, but it is with aircooling and win7

http://www.abload.de/thumb/3dmark06-...ddr3-25mec.png

DomagojX SoF tried and as you can see 2600k beat easily 980x at the same clock http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...80_38624_marks

that's a huge chip on air! WOW! Thanks for reviewing

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anyone tryed running 3dmark06 with HT??
I haven't seen no results so I'm just curious :)

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There you go 38624 with 480 GTX GPU on stock AIR - I was really stunned how well it performed :up:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5...07672th.th.jpg

This is really awesome :eek:
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1.6v be careful!

Should be alright with SS cooling. GTX480 is the one which runs with air cooling ;)

Yeah I can say 1.6V on singlestage is safe for benching 01-06 as well as of course 1m, 32m, pifast and wprime32m. Been testing for some days now and no issues so far.
For Vantage and wprime1024 I usually go down to around 1.55-1.58 just to be sure.

Also some hints collected for the single stage benchers:

- at the very beginning (first turning on ss and waiting until ~-40°C) the CPU might be very unpredictable --> don't get in a hurry then, let it idle in bios for 1-2 minutes, and then boot from the bios with previously applied settings --> should boot then
- maybe you face lock-ups with "63" "78" or "20" on the postcode --> check your rams / vccsa then --> even the cpu does 1866 or 2133 ram on air, maybe it won't under ss (unfortunatly that is one of my biggest problems)
- usually the border between boot and no boot / hard mhz wall is just 0.1 MHZ bclk speed --> it is not directly related to how high your multiplier goes
+ e.g. : 55x100 = boot and all benches | then 56x100 = freeze during windows bootscreen (typical -> best way to test is xp loading bar) | then 56x99 = boot | 59x99.5=boot | 59x99.9 = freeze | 59x99.8 = boot and most benches = absolut max without any new tweaks in bios

SoF

batch of your 2 cpus please.

thanks

Batch of all 2600K I had: L040B165

btw: 6.640s with new windows :D still on the run -.-

same batch like chrisch

thanks

and same as stummerwinter - we bought the chips together and got all the same batch :)

Just recieved mine in the UK same batch hopefully clocks the same :D Good job though SoF

5100 MHZ 2600 K, Air cooler
Msi P67-A GD65
Msi R 5870 : 1010 / 1305 Mhz

3dm2001 Test 95k


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9...0015100mhz.jpg


SP1M 7.297s 5100 Mhz

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6740/sp1m72s.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ivanqu

NO,I want RMA! This cpu dead AIR VCORE 1.72 :mad:

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So... 1.72V, dead within days...
1.6V - weeks?
1.5V - months?
1.4V - year(s)?
For Air cooling, obviously. Just speculating...

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Originally Posted by zalbard

So... 1.72V, dead within days...
1.6V - weeks?
1.5V - months?
1.4V - year(s)?
For Air cooling, obviously. Just speculating...

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Don't speculate :D Youa re about to launch a big snowball effect again... sorry but 1.72Vcore on air is just too much...

For 24/7 users 1.4ish seems okay with a decent cooler. I'm getting 70ish degrees during prime at 4.5 1.29Vcore with a TRUE (single fan)... seems my sweetspot for this 2600K... during gaming it hardly breaches 55°C... pretty safe ( I hope :p)

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For 24/7 users 1.4ish seems okay with a decent cooler. I'm getting 70ish degrees during prime at 4.5 1.29Vcore with a TRUE (single fan)... seems my sweetspot for this 2600K... during gaming it hardly breaches 55°C... pretty safe ( I hope :p)

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The problem is, a lot of people seem to think that 1.5-1.55V 24/7 is perfectly safe and fine. I think not. :p:
And what do you mean by saying again?! :eek:

Just first 32M on air ... and cpu can do it at +5550Mhz :D

http://www.pt1t.eu/public/P67/2600K_...B_32M_6m4s.png

Pt1t nice try! Push sub 6min )

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

Just first 32M on air ... and cpu can do it at +5550Mhz :D

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:shocked: :up:

Are the shown RAM timings correct? That would be wow :up:

Yes , it same DDR3 that i used here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=264859

wow very nice kit which seems to be perfect for sandy - seems I need to test some more ram ;)

If you would have read my last RAM reviews sof, you wouldnt be surprised :-P
All better PSC based kits can do this with ease.

Got mine today ... L040B165 :D

Hoping for good results, at work on a night shift atm :(

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

Just first 32M on air ... and cpu can do it at +5550Mhz :D

http://www.pt1t.eu/public/P67/2600K_...B_32M_6m4s.png

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Sub 6m Bro !! Sub 6m Bro or I will resume overclocking between hysterical bi**hes :hump:

fighting with that last seconds also now...got new ram and that helps quite a bit!

6min 6s 703ms @5558 MHZ RAM 1078 9-10-8-24-1T a supertalent kit...

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4...1078cl9.th.png

nice to know supertalent works...wooo

They work for sure better than my old hyper kits from mushkin ;)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4...1078cl9.th.png

but after let's say 3-4 hours the system seems to get unstable with high ram and high mhz near limit and will only work below 5.5....I need to let it rest a bit and next day it goes 5550+ cpu 2150+ ram again...reminds me a bit of GT ;)

P67A-UD3 F6a. I'm gonna try the hard way this weekend, cascade :D If it fails on me I'll just open lo-hi bypass valve. If it still fails I'll get it under single-stager :D

http://file.si/pfiles/145381/5242_pi32m.PNG

good luck dude!! until now I saw them workin but not scaling under cascade :(

2100 @ Cas 6 nice!

P67A-UD3P F6a beta bios@2600K Batch #L040B225 @5Ghz@vcore 1.45v bios stock cooler@8gb Kingston HyperX Cl 9-9-9-24

http://img266.imageshack.us/f/2600k5...superpi1m.jpg/

:) my first touch with sandy bridge and cheap motherboard :D

max multiplier in bios X58 :D right now thats should do nice numbers with cold like dry ice / Ln2

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max multiplier in bios X58 :D right now thats should do nice numbers with cold like dry ice / Ln2

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you already heard of sandy not liking DICE or LN2 for the moment? when you are lucky and have a good watercooling and winter outside you are very often able to max out the chips - a singlestage helps for running some high vcore on benches but it will raise your clocks minimal (1% max - at least for me and some others without somebody showing us some new bios- or hardmod-wuuzaaa ;) )

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Originally Posted by SoF

fighting with that last seconds also now...got new ram and that helps quite a bit!

6min 6s 703ms @5558 MHZ RAM 1078 9-10-8-24-1T a supertalent kit...

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4...1078cl9.th.png

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I think someone have to say now: "sorry, i was wrong" :rofl:

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Originally Posted by SoF

Yeah I can say 1.6V on singlestage is safe for benching 01-06 as well as of course 1m, 32m, pifast and wprime32m. Been testing for some days now and no issues so far.
For Vantage and wprime1024 I usually go down to around 1.55-1.58 just to be sure.

Also some hints collected for the single stage benchers:

- at the very beginning (first turning on ss and waiting until ~-40°C) the CPU might be very unpredictable --> don't get in a hurry then, let it idle in bios for 1-2 minutes, and then boot from the bios with previously applied settings --> should boot then
- maybe you face lock-ups with "63" "78" or "20" on the postcode --> check your rams / vccsa then --> even the cpu does 1866 or 2133 ram on air, maybe it won't under ss (unfortunatly that is one of my biggest problems)
- usually the border between boot and no boot / hard mhz wall is just 0.1 MHZ bclk speed --> it is not directly related to how high your multiplier goes
+ e.g. : 55x100 = boot and all benches | then 56x100 = freeze during windows bootscreen (typical -> best way to test is xp loading bar) | then 56x99 = boot | 59x99.5=boot | 59x99.9 = freeze | 59x99.8 = boot and most benches = absolut max without any new tweaks in bios

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its so sad that SOF had to even make this guide for measly ss. Is intel on a cold ban?

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Is intel on a cold ban?

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for the moment I think they are - haven't seen a cpu yet that does more than 100 mhz more compared to air/water. the highest clocks we've seen are on air - pretty sad for the extreme community :(
massive cpu binning on air seems to be everything you need to do to get some top10 scores in pifast and 32m...well I hoped for more after initial testing but for now sandy is badly "hard-walled"... :(