Hello All, this is quick tried with mine ASUS HD6970 Voltage Tweak on stock cooling well for voltage is asus smartdoc can adjust 1.5V max but i'm not sure it can true delivery same as setting because GPUZ and other can't report it, GPUZ only show 1.175V on full load so don't care about it let to see what it can do ;)
Max GPU Clock@1015MHz and Mem@1520MHz
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn...s6970_1015.PNG
well for other benching i'll try again tomorrow, Thanks :)
Hi..
I saw the review of the overclocked Diamond 6970 XOC card and the performance increase is not worth the hassle for 1 - 2FPS increase in most situation..The 6970 OC volt mod is nice for DIY experience..
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/374...ard/index.html
On the other hand the 6950 is just better value from every point of view.Overclocking the card you just get a 6970 and you remain with 70$ in the pockets and you actually feel the difference really..Just my opinion.The 6970 look to me like PHenom CPU.The "big" overclock just don't deliver the performance to be entuazistic about..
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...0_7.html#sect1
very nice ZoLKoRn :)
can you share a bios dump please?
Hello.
Same problem here, i have got a Asus 6950 since yesterday but can not increase voltage with smartdoctor 5.74 !!
Incredible ! :mad:
I bought an Asus especially for this . :shakes:
6000+ score is good
No problem ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
Hi, can you share the BIOS dump, please? Thank you.
thanks ZoLKoRn, flashed it to my HIS card :)
before: http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6...oregpuz.th.gif after: http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2...tergpuz.th.gif
I've uploaded the version of ATIFlash I used to Mediafire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cgl0st3ng21i1
or http://www.multiupload.com/QKSBG29TBH
I put the ROM and ATIFlash onto a bootable USB drive and booted from it.
First I backed up my cards original BIOS with the command:
atiflash -s 0 backup.rom
Next it needed unlocking so it could be flashed:
atiflash -unlockrom 0
and finally flashed with:
atiflash -p -f 0 asus6970.bin
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4663/1003322n.th.jpg
Ahhh the ninja edit, I really appreciate your help guys, I will be giving this a shot. Been a rough 2 weeks so far with no real tools for these cards.:up:
BTW: Awesome scores :up:
Does the voltage tweak actually change the voltages, even though gpu-z says it's at stock? Is it increasing your overclocks? (by how much?)
Gee, now we need a asus 6950 bios ;)
Don't sure i'm not serious for tried it but maybe about 60-70MHz stockQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
voltage from not increasing vgpu :p:
No problem again !, i'll upload for you later :DQuote:
Originally Posted by flopper
6950 bios would be awesome :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
there's a guy on guru3d who flashed the 6970 bios to his 6950
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=335313
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=335318
^ No way!!!
yes yes yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bodkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sQhTVz5IjQ
Likely artifcating might happen unless they cut off in bios only but that is highly unlikely.
might be samples that didnt cut the 6970 criteria, and not lasercut which would suprise me.
fun anyhow ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodkin
Enjoy guys : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XOP68VMQuote:
Originally Posted by flopper
But voltage increase do not work with smartdoctor . :mad:
Asus : :down:
Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:, my card unlocked too :O
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/12/26/3cu.png
What do you mean for unlocked ? Flashed 6970bios to 6950card success ??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodkin
if yes i'll back to my benching table now for try it quickly :D
Yes, thats a 5950 :D
Did voltage change too ? :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodkin
if it's really possible to unlock a 6950 into a 6970, my headaches whether to buy a 6970 or 570 will vanish immediately and i'll get a 6950 instead :D
btw, why did nobody try that earlier? or was customization to the 6970 bios needed to get it to work?
hehehe....:D Flashed success now for mine Sap6950 to ASUS6970 :up:
and benching to checking for performance :cool:
grats!
let us know how's it going.
if it's working for you guys it looks like amd has some great yields with their cayman cores.
Let us know if the performance is correct for it now! Grats and hope so... I may switch to 2x 6950 to unlock to 6970, instead of my GTX 580 if this works right. Tempting, but not sure it's worth the hassle/risk of not unlocking two cards properly...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
Could you please confirm that you have flashed ASUS HD 6970 BIOS to Sapphire HD 6950 and it worked?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
If possible could you please share your results (before/after screenshots etc...) and experiences with us?
flashed.
got to try.
worked.
2 6950 Powercolor
However, seeing artifacts in 3D and benches wont run.
gpu-z shows 1600unified shaders.
so, seems this is a luck of the draw to get a working ex for unlock.
wait a moment it on benching now, i try for clock per clock of gpu with beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hicksetto
and after flashed ;)
Okay quick results from my Sapphire hd6950 flashed to Asus hd6970, for bios flash method not any specials you can see from #9 on
this thread on first page and must thank you to Pyr0 for his sharing of method
first let to see bios flash screen for confirm is i used true Sap6950 flash to Asus6970
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2500/img8424r.jpg
Results from original bios of sap hd6950@800/1250MHz (stock Freq.)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5784/sap9650.png
Result after flash to Asus hd6970 and benching at stock frequency of asus bios@890/1375MHz
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9427/sapto6970.png
Score from 3Dmark11 increasing about 500Mark and this scale same as from older my results on review between 6970 and 6950
but wait to see more for MHz per MHz :)
wow it's nice to see that zolkorn :)
Hey guys, started new thread to make it clear to outhers what seems to be working
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=264159
@ZoLKoRn, thank you very much! Performance difference is caused by increased clock speeds. Could you please test at the same clock speeds with berfore/after BISOes?
It coming for the same clock speeds with berfore/after BISOes, and for more approve of score i tried to running three time for checking on new Biosed and
results looking increasing about 100mark all time. ;)
Running #1
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3...800mhzrun1.png
Running #2
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8...800mhzrun2.png
Running #3
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1...800mhzrun3.png
Well for stock bios it can did score only 45xxMark, So how everyone thinking ?
one more result for try to overclocking :D
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8746/sapto697oc.png
Thank you. ;)
@ZoLKoRn, thank you very much! Actually we need results of following situations to compare performance within two BIOSes:
1- Default Sapphire HD 6950 speeds with Sapphire HD 6950 BIOS
2- Default Sapphire HD 6950 speeds with ASUS HD 6970 BIOS
Please check at #29 of me in first 3D11 bench it result from original sapphire bios and original clock too@800/1250MHz, you can checking bios version on GPUZ compare with dos screen it same for old bios is atiflash report.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicksetto
;)
@ ZoLKoRn
what were your default 6970 card results?
roughly the same as the 6950 flashed to 6970 ?
i'd like to see if the shaders really are unlocked. can it be read from registers or something? i think GPU-Z is just reading built in data depending on the card IDs
Thanks, it's great! 150 points means additional shaders are working... Now, last kind request from me; could you please test artifacts with GPUTool stability test at least 15 mins.? :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
I'm back to running 6970 now for checking on stock clock and overclock same as here for 930/1450MHz let to see what happen with it, wait a moment ;)
Edit : i think shaders it working, now i tried running asus card on stock clock it score showed 5004point now (screenshot to come)
Edit2 : Well done ! checking from here with i back to running my asus card at both clock is i tried on sapphire@asus bios from #29
real asus card with stock clock - 5004point (sapphire@asus bios - 4998point from #29)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7161/asus6970.png
real asus card with oc@930/1430MHz - 5158point (sapphire@asus bios - 5154point from #33)
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1637/asus6970oc.png
so finally i think shaders it really working for unlocked :rocker: nice one again for AMD ! :D
Me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
I flashed my sapphire 6950 with the asus bios before I really ran any benches but at
900/1350 3dmark 11 went from p5363 to p5470
so it looks like it unlocked and though I was hoping the shaders made a bigger difference.
I would of thought the extra shaders would of had a bigger impact really.
Sounds great.
But smartdoctor (voltage increase?) isn't working?
What happens if you try the voltage increase? Does the card get any higher clocks on GPU? (even if gpu-z isn't showing it?)
No higher clocks even if smortdoctor tell that the voltage is higher.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
I conclude that Asus did not test his own software. :rolleyes:
So i hope that a new afterburner will be available soon .
ดังใหญ่เลยนะท่าน..อิ..อิ..Good job
did anyone try the sapphire tool called TRIXX to increase voltage on 69xx cards?
Good job !!
Ok, another question for OP and anyone else:
If you flash a 6970 (not a 6950) to an ASUS 6970 bios, does the overclock increase or remain the same as before?
(without using Smartdoctor, so, stock volts only).
Zolkorn?
Wow
Very nice! what did you use to get past the normal clock speeds too? Was that in the bios flash?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
Checking here on ASUS Smartdoc and done ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 7he ]-[0rr0r
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5443/smartdoc.png
Thanks image from Pyr0
smartdoc version ? link plzzQuote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
Last new on ASUS site in HD6970 download section ;)
But it still doesn't support voltage changes?... It acts like it does, even confirms volts but it doesn't really change anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
Any info on any software that does allow voltage gains? Uncle Fester On Kingpin cooling mentioned his 6970 was limited by software to 1.25v and got 1100+ mhz out of it.
not work on v5.66Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
I have 5.74 doesn't work on there either. It acts like it. But no boost.
@jimmyz
I not sure too for Voltage changes or not because GPUZ and other still show
1.175V max but Smartdoc like it work :)
@Gaul
Hey mate now i checking on ASUS site it 5.74 version, please checking it again http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...L1h&templete=2 ;)
using asus smartdoctor 5.74 here and the "Overclocking range enhancement" option definitely works for me. it even extends the range in CCC
http://i2.sqi.sh/s_1/4xB/l_clocks.png
Thank you ZoLKoRn!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
here is the link http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
hmmm something wrong
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7858/notworked.jpg
The issue isn't whether it supports it or not the issue is there is no Voltage increase even though it acts like it adds it, it even changes the displayed voltage and confirms in a seperate dialog box. So Asus thinks it is working. We all need to hound them for voltage support, After all it is listed on the box!
They must think it works. Only explanation that I can think of why it seems to function but doesn't really affect voltage.
SO please everyone contact them and inform them of this.. One person reporting a problem gets overlooked easy.
It seems to work fine here (just set it to 1.3v and check load temps to test)
got 1ghz on my gigabyte 6950 at 1.3v (asus 6950 bios I found in this thread unlocked + smart doctor)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1864/1ghz.th.jpg
this BIOS ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuvok-LuR-
http://hotfile.com/dl/92273320/0a6d6...nlock.bin.html
Yep.. try it and you'll done ! this bios come from Here by Pctunning :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Zolkorn have you tested cold yet? Have the same problems as the rest of us?
Never tests it under cold for now Tim i'm not have time :( sorry for cant help alot on now :)
Uncle Fester doesn't mention any issues..Also he mentions being held to 1.25v in software? so If one of you guys knows him get us the scoop.
http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/...highlight=6970
Yeah, i'm getting that too :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
I grabbed this asus 6950 bios and applied W1zzard's unlock batch (link)
The modded bios is here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0P3NBAXK
Smart doctor overvolt is working fine, but gpu-z still reads 1.1v
I think it's the same bios they used on the pctuning article that someone sent them
doing some test now to check wheather the power limits kicks in to lower frequencies
Perhaps gpuz is displaying entered data from a database rather than live updated data I have a multi meter but no card (waiting on ship yet) and don't know where among all the tiny delicate contact points I'd find the gpu voltage anyway.
1Mhz higher :D
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/12/30/gdk.png
I bought an HD 6970 on the day of purchase for as cheap as I could - 270 including free delivery from Ebuyer.
This gave me the sapphire version. Today I modified an old HD4870 waterblock with a hacksaw, and got the card working underwater. This has dropped temps massively.
I used some of the stick on heatsinks (designed for ram chips really) for the mosfets so the card is cooled better in this regard as well.
I then flashed the bios with the ASUS version to give the voltage tweakability with smartdoctor. I also increased the powertune to +20 percent.
So far I have got the core stable at 1025. I'm sure there is more here too, subject to tweaking and testing. This gives over 2400 3dmarks - see below. That's better than a stock GTX580
I am not unpleased with this card. Next plan is to get the memory up further.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9...underwater.png
1500+ on the memory is easily doable with no voltage increase.
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/1...92xhd6970s.jpg
well I just tried it and the voltage control works I got 1000/1400 at 1.3 but it's not the best solution since it takes to long for the voltage to be applied at startup and it's easy to crash in the meantime. Temps seem alot lower with the 6950 modded bios compared to the asus 6970one. Which seems odd considering the voltage is higher.
I thought that the Asus BIOS disables powertune completely on all their cards, isn't that right? Isn't what that translated review said? And they said with the modded BIOS, they had problems with powertune throttling the card?
Maybe that's why the temps are lower?
I think that once a 6950 is modded to the highest possible level currently, which is with the Asus 6970 bios, the only physical difference remaining is the powertune level.
The 6950 powertune envelope is less than the 6970 even after the flash. This can be partially mitigated by increasing the powertune slider to +20 percent in CCC>
Theoretically the 6970 will have better headroom in this regard since it also allows +20 percent on top of it's envelope.
How this small remaining advantage of the HD69070 will relate to real-world performance, I'm not sure.
Interesting - is this confirmed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
If so, there is no advantage at all to buying a HD6970 and it can be considered physically identical to a HD6950 in all respects.
They are not physically Identical at all. Similar yes, but the 6970 has different components in the power delivery circuits. Also 1ghz higher binned ram chips, and even a different board. ( I know the boards look alike but just check the numbers near the PCI-e slot. they are different board models).Quote:
Originally Posted by temporarychicke
If you get a chance to really look ove the two models there are quite a few changes, mostly better grade components and such.
Hi everyone,
I purchased 2 ASUS 6970's when they were very first released on Newegg. The PCB color of my cards are both RED. I recently was checking some things out on Newegg and saw the pictures of the ASUS 6970 PCB color was now GREEN in the photos. Will somebody who has recently purchased any ASUS 6970's confirm that the PCB color is now GREEN or is it still RED. The reason why I ask is because, I am having problems with my cards and I wonder if ASUS changed anything else on the PCB that we don't know about.
Thanks in advance everyone!!
[QUOTE=temporarychicke;4685793]I bought an HD 6970 on the day of purchase for as cheap as I could - 270 including free delivery from Ebuyer.
This gave me the sapphire version. Today I modified an old HD4870 waterblock with a hacksaw, and got the card working underwater. This has dropped temps massively.
I used some of the stick on heatsinks (designed for ram chips really) for the mosfets so the card is cooled better in this regard as well.
I then flashed the bios with the ASUS version to give the voltage tweakability with smartdoctor. I also increased the powertune to +20 percent.
So far I have got the core stable at 1025. I'm sure there is more here too, subject to tweaking and testing. This gives over 2400 3dmarks - see below. That's better than a stock GTX580
I am not unpleased with this card. Next plan is to get the memory up further.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9...underwater.png[/QUOTE]are you sure ?
HD6970 @ 1025/1375 GPU Score 23389
GTX 580 stock GPU Score 24395
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...age-580-df.jpg
Hey everyone, I was checking out things on Newegg and if you look at any of the Radeon 6970's there and zoom in on the bottom of the PCI brackets of the video cards, you will see that they all read Revision B now instead of Revision A. I wonder what all changes they made to them?>
My flashed Gigabyte 6950 also reads revision B so i wouldn't worry right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmm5351
i am getting same error as gaul , flashed my club3d to asus 6970.
anybody send e link for smartdoctor they using?
i have downloaded the one from asus website yesterday.
You need to use this bios - it's a modded ASUS 6950 one http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0P3NBAXKQuote:
Originally Posted by hereticangel
The highest you can go without hardmodding the card is 1.3 on vddc, if you go higher than that the card shuts of. For higher voltage you need raise vddcl aswell.