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I tried to flash my 480's with a 580 bios earlier, but all it did was limit the fan speeds to 580 fan speeds but it still thinks its a 480, this must be locked by nvidia somehow as the cards have almost exactly the same PCB, So for all who were wandering it does not work :(
different chip alltogether ... so flashing wont do squat
Yea there is no chance this would have worked the GPU chip itself is completely different.
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Originally Posted by scutzi128
Different chip andnot that similar PCB.
i'd say you're lucky the card isn't bricked :D
And i wonder why would you want to do this... There's nothing to be gained?
Is this the wrong time to ask if I can flash my GeForce 2 MX to a GTX 580?
There is deviceid resistors onboard near PCI-E slot. :)
The cards can't be that different as they still worked, they just thought that they are still 480's. I spent some time looking at the chip designs to decide whether it would work or not, and for those wandering why i would want to do this, its to attempt to gain performance.
Ahh thanks, I'm assuming this is a new feature with fermi?Quote:
Originally Posted by TiN_EOF
The 480s have an SM lazer locked. So flashing a GTX480 to a GTX580 wont unlock the SM. Youll still have 480 SP instaed of 512 SP.
But im also surprise this didnt bricked the card ...
no such thing as laser locking, its all done through microcode. If a laser was used we could fix it.
Did you test performance differences?
I've got a gforce 6200... can I flash it to a GTX 580 ? :)
Your right .. they dont lazercut the card anymore ... But as far as ive read, the locked SM isnt bios locked i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
LOL, what a dork!
Did you think your low down 480 was gonna transform into the supreme goodness that is the 580, or were you hoping that with a BIOS transplant, it could show up as one to impress your friends? LOL!! :rofl:
While we are at this ...
Does anyone know how to flash an Intel I7 920 CPU to an I7 980X, also how can I flash my current 60GB OCZ SSD to the highest capacity drive they have?
And since I have your attention, how can I flash my bank account to be a Millionaire ten times over? and for those wandering why I would want to do this, its to attempt to gain money I just want a get rich scheme to come true.
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Originally Posted by scaramonga
LOL, in reality, if he has a 480, why is he asking questions like this? I'm still on a lowely 285 and it does everything it needs, still does not stop me wanting a 580 though.
Actually it's supposedly the same chip with a diff process to make it smaller.
To get the id changed you'de have to mod the bios's rom strap and whatever I dn, I have it done to my 6800gt to make it a quadrofx4000.
Though..., that method isn't 100% perfect, it'll fool the drivers somewhat, open the cpl up for you and everything, but it's still not a real quado, only a hardware id mod can do that.
I can tell because the rendering quality in farcry1 is the same as a geforce, not a quadro :\.
Though with this bios modding method you might beable to doit for a geforce to geforce card, enabling the shaders up to 512.
It should be good enough to do that.
But how do you do this mod?
I'm not sure, I never sat down and tried to figuer it out.
I still have my quadro fx 4000 though so someday I can sit down and do that...
But, flashing a 580 bios...
There's one issue I would be worried about.
The pixal precision is half that of the 480 supposedly.
Which I think means the shader quality is half that of the previous gen of cards.
Instead of say 4 pixal's per shader pixal, you get 8.
It'll look blockier for the shader effect.
I don't really know if that is what it means or not though...
But I would stay away from the consumer 580 gen of card's and only go with the quadro's ver's of that gen..
Best off trying to get those extra shader's unlocked in your 480 bios then you are that 580 bios I think.
Might be alot harder to do, but in the end the quality may be better then what you'de get in that consumer baised 580 bios.
Only if you do the pencil trick first.Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
I'll give it a try but I need to download more memory first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
To the OP; We're just kidding around, all in good fun. :D
I was hopping this would work as like early GTX465 to GTX470. But to bad and thank you for trying.
lies, its the same size, layout, transistor count, unit count. its just a silicone update with all clusters turned on. the g0 q6600 of the gf100Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
Crikey, the OP sent me a very nasty, bordering on personal threat reply.
How wise is that?
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Originally Posted by M31
LMAO, post it here !
He's probably just pissed that he can't flash a 6200 to a 580 :)
Hell no. Different transistor layout, it's got less 200M transistors than the GF100 among other updates. It's far from a "G0 Q6600".Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
do u have a link to were they dropped transistors, i also though that they dropped them but then i cannot find anything that says they did. and are they delivery or logic transistors as they added a bunch of power trenching into the gf100 after the 40nm fail so they could have cut allot out of that but not touched the logic. they are the same size so i would assume no logic was removed or changed.
it's all over the internet, but i can show you my own GPU-Z grabs...
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9284/gpu580.png http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/5793/gpu480.png
I think Anandtech had an article on it, where he dug deep into the 580.
You were being an ass, so you did deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by M31
Still nobody has tested to see if there are performance differences.
As to transistor count, GPU-Z only goes by what the official specs are. It doesnt go and count them. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by M31
Don't do that, it's against forum rules. Just let it go, we're all human and get irritated at times. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Olly_K
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Originally Posted by dengyong
Agreed, i actually found this thread very interesting as i thought there may be a chance it could work. then i saw a bunch of haters jumping all over this guy for no reason except to watch themselves talk and poke at this guy.
to the OP, thanks for a great post and good job actually trying something crazy like this. Ignore all the trolls who just have nothing better to do.
Sometimes a little humor can go bad... we live and learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedneck
Im supriced someone stupid enought didnt try to unlock 470 as 580 :rofl:.
Anyway lets wait for GTX570 to come and then we will see, if the PCB has same amount of ram chips as GTX580, then we are golden and hopefully can unlock GTX570 as GTX580. :)
I just guess that Nvidia wont allow it that EZ ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
should flash 580->480 BIOS :)
nVidia is very clever that they know people would try flashing 580 bios to 480. Thus they made some sort of checks to guarantee that 580 bios would still work on 480 properly (without having to deal with lots of RMAs due to flashing bios), while not harming their marketing at all.
flashing a 480 to a 580 is stupid.. try flashing the 580 with the 480 BIOS instead.. you will be much happier with results.
What for? I do not see a point. Seems just as stupid to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CL3P20
This :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by mk-ultra