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:welcome: to my log.

So I've had a Lian Li TYR X-2000 for about 2 years now.
I was running a V1 zalman reserator with an upgraded pump(from day 1) and a 120 and 240 external rad.
Hardware is mostly 2 years old, hasn't been any games worth upgrading for lately.
I try to skip a gpu gen, got 4870s now, so the 6870s are looking good :D

I said I'd never dremel it, then one day during a forum discussion a few months ago about case grommet holes, i decided F*%$ it! http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/sm...bit-dremel.gif

Not long after i saw the new HWL SR1 560, then found Aquacomputer.
A few couriers, $$s and cut off wheels later, here we are.

Ive just recieved my (maybe) last delivery and time to install.
I recently decided to change from 240/120 rads for exhaust to 280/140 to match the 560 intake.
So i have a minor issue with the hole on the top panel now being too big.
I made it big enough to drop the rad and fans straight in, with a radgrill on top. but the hole is now wider than 140mm fan holes. :(

Trying to get my hands on a 280 radgrill to sort it, but i may just fab something.
Still need to decide on best option and drill mounts and trim hole a bit.

Anyway, finally found the mini usb adaptor for sony camera , **&$#sony*$&%non*&$standard&*%(plugs*&#%@!!!!! :mad: *

So heres some pics of where I'm up to,
still in progress so ideas are welcome. :D

It may look like a pretty plain build atm,
but the last 2 pics give a clue as to what it may look like when finished... ;)

Hardware
Asus Maximus II Formula
E8600 3.33ghz
Corsair Dominator 4GB
2x Saphire Radeon 4870 crossfire
6x 1TB Seagate 7200.12
Corsair HX1000

WC
HWL SR1 560/280/140
Enermax UCTB14 Silence 750rpm/45cfm/15dba 7x
AC Aquastream XT Ultra (might add a second..thoughts?)
AC Aquatube nickel res
AC Aquaero
AC Multiswitch
AC Flow sensor
AC Filter
AC Fillport
AC inline temps sensors 4x
BP Shinning silver fittings (asst 45/90/L/Q/etc)
BP True Silver 1/2 id CC5 32x
Tygon 3603 1/2id 8m

EK Supreme HF Nickel
EK Asus Mofset 3a 2x
EK Asus NB/SB1
EK NB S-Max
EK FC4870 CF 2x

Parts

more bits

unbelievable :| ......

great water-cooling accessories

Looks like you have a plan... Good work thus...

any of those CPU's a nice clocking E8XXX?

also, do you have any spare Koolance stop fittings?

yeah i caught the AC monitoring bug, it seems to be fatal! :eek: to my wallet.

nah the old cpus are all junk, early C2Ds,
my main cpu is only an e8600

i still cant see any benefit from going i7 and a truckload of ram.
dual core 3ghz and 4gb ddr2 handles anything i throw at it still!

when i finish this build i will probably replace the hardware with something that needs this much cooling :)
one last bit of dremeling to do to mount top and rear rad and i'll be ready to get wet http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/sm...bit-dremel.gif

just say it, you spent too much on the case ;)

well yes obviously...its a Li-Li :D
they are way overpriced. but i love it! Id buy another one today, the same original x2000 not the crappy new one too.
the only case ive seen in the 2 years since that id prefer is a MM ascension.

I got the case/psu/hdds about 2 years ago, after a trip to Hong Kong where i got the mobo/cpu/gpus/ram. the cpu and gpus (2 x 4870s) only became available the day i bought them.
but then a week after i got back from HK the 4870x2 came out... DOH!

my previous case was an X1000. i loved it so. but i thought it might be cool to try a mATX case, but im still sticking with Lian Li.

yeah the new PC-Qxx stuff is sweet.
and that v352 u have is like a mini-me x2000 :D

edit: aww crap are you a muso?
i'm a rock lighting guy.
musos just get in the way of a good light show!! :p
like the cables in my case ;)

Love your choice of Monitoring parts and the res and plate. Great start I will be following you also keep up the good work

yeah same as your kit eh.

i WAS very impressed with the AC gear, then i had a faulty temp sensor,
now my ASXT pump has failed, badly! :(

bottom of this thread http://forum.aquacomputer.de/weitere...eam-1-aquaero/

i was really keen to get all the matching AC kit to talk to each other, and display all that info,

now i'm wondering if i should ever leave it unattended! :confused:

Speechless, keep up the good work :up::up:

Lian Li :shocked: :shocked:

Ok got my ASXT exchanged and am now back to work :)

After a few discussions on these forums i have decided not to mount the 280 rad on top as exhaust, as it will just get hot air from the other rads and hdds.

I am thinking of mounting it on the rear from the original 140 fan mount up to the rear meshed part.
I was going to mount a 140 up the top and the ac res and aquaero in the original 140 mount.
But I am liking this plan atm. I just have to cut some mesh out now to mount it right.(pic 3 below) the plexi is from a previous idea to use as a "flange" to mount from.

I have remounted the 240 radgrill to the top with just 2 enermax 120s on it, no rad. now i dont have to do anymore cutting of the top panel :up:

So the rads will now be 560 on the front and 280 on the rear, both as intake.
the air flow will pass over my 6 hdds and out the top 240 exaust fans. :D
not sure what to do with the 140 now, cant fit it anywhere :(

So now i have nowhere to mount the aquaero,res, flow sensor and filter. any ideas welcome.

I have also changed the psu and pump placement, the psu is just a big black box that took up too much valuable space, and didn't light well.
So its now external, with ALOT of other power distribution gear for lighting.

Now i have the whole bottom chamber free I can fit the pump in my preferred spot on the left so its tube to the cpu goes straight up.

I did have it mounted on the right but only to clear the psu.

So now im thinking of putting the res "vertical" with the glass up, it lines up nicely with the pump inlet, and fulfills both my wishes to see the whole top and whole body, its too beautiful to hide! :)

1st pic is pump right
2nd pic is pump left
3rd is cutting to be done to mount 280
4th is top radgrill and fillport in position
5th is a BP/EK/Koolance 3 way orgy :D

All rads mounted now,
very happy with the new config :up:
especially squeezing the 140 in

all rads are now doing intake, then up over my hdds and out the top 2x120 outtake
i still have to make the fan grills for the rear rads to match the front, from the mesh side panels of a TT Tribe :D

still not 100% sure on where to put pump/res/flow/filter and most importantly Aquaero.......

the big blank area to the right of the mobo will be mostly cables and lights,
i have the whole bottom chamber free now, just cant decide on how to do it.
TOO many options, not a bad problem to have though.. :cool:

Hmm, interesting idea with rad placement on back with just the opening for only back of gpu with displays atached :up:
BTW, what is airflow direction in all the rads?

all sucking fresh cool air from outside and pumping it in :up:

the SR1 has a built in shroud on one side only, opp the fittings.
so fans go on outside then silicone then rad
in PUSH

due to the way im mounting them it would be too hard to have the fans in PULL

i doubt i will have any major temp issue because of it though :D

Great case :D! The fact that you used lego to sort out your CPU's and RAM modules makes me want to follow this build even more :rofl:.

Creeking: Hmm, if all radfans blow inside of case .. if you are going to put sidewalls in place .. then imho it's worth to cut some extra case fans in sidewalls or top/bottom of case, to little bit even out case air pressure for fans on rads to not work extra hard on pressurising case air and pressing air outside of case through small-ish case gaps. Not as much fans as on rads (as slightly positive air pressure is one of points for dust protection, also resulting air flow from air pushed through resistive dust filters and LC rads will drop), but some nevertheless.

thats a good point churchy, this is plan B, plan A, had the 560 doing intake and the 140/280 doing exhaust,
but the theory of putting hot air through the rads made me re-think.

the fans are VERY low flow, the top 2 120s are exhaust only and there will still be a few BIG gaps, at the bottom where the 140 mounts there is a hole next to it, and at the top above and left of the 280 there is mesh and a gap. as can be seen in the pic of the back, i will probably fill in the square hole between the rads, but leave the other gaps open.

the side panel of the case is a full window, i could put fans in the other panel.

i like the theory about not putting extra pressure on the fans, i will think about this
cheers mate :)

alexandros, do you mean the RGB LEDs? LEGO FTW! :D

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Originally Posted by Creekin

alexandros, do you mean the RGB LEDs? LEGO FTW! :D

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I'm talking about this picture :rofl: :D.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1288347225

Creekin: you can simply check need for extra fans blowing out of case. Check/compare cooling efficiency/temps with sidewalls mounted/without. Then you can decide for yourself if it's worth to take care of or better just left ignored.

yeah i will do some tests churchy, probably by holding a tissue in front of gaps and see how strong the pressure is. :)

oh i forgot about that pic Alexandros... lol
it was just luck that the technic beams were exactly the right length to corral ram! i say again.. LEGO FTW!! :D
I have 2 big technic kits i bought not long ago, built once and never looked at again..lol, i thought i had better find a good use for it. :)

Lol, if I were to find a good use for all my lego half of all items in my house would have lego parts in it. I have an addiction I think :rolleyes:.

Did you see James May's Lego house?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLkHn_RlgY
:D
I think most ppl who build pc's or build anything for that matter, started with Lego.
I had boxes of it as a kid, all the spaceship stuff, like this :up:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2pq3zpx.jpg

then it all went as a teen, then in my 30s when i can actually afford the good stuff i got hooked again! :D technic is great, but id love to try out the mindstorms stuff

could make an interesting project
LEGO technic/mindstorms WC pc :D

Hey mate.
Good job so far. Such a big case and every rad is external? Thats all good:up:
If you're going that route then maybe the following idea may work for you...
If you're looking to mount a second 560 then why not mount them side by side at the front of the case in a sideways position. So if you're looking at the case from the side, you'd be looking at the front of the rad with the other directly behind it. Make sense..? Could look pretty cool but will require some custom rad mounts to be made. I considered this myself at one time but didn't want to lose Lian Li's nice front cover. You've got a lot of rads bolted to that thing, is it really necessary? Otherwise, keep up the good work, mate. Sorry to plant such a crazy idea in your head.:D

in the same post you tell me i have too many rads, but that i should mount another 560 :rofl: :ROTF: :up:

i like your style!

i originally wanted to keep the front cover, it is a sexy bit of alu.

i like the look of the rad holders that hold a rad from the side, and your right it would fit.
but how would you face them?

would they suck fresh air from outside and blow it at each other?
or both suck fresh from middle blowing out???

yeah i have been thinking of this idea since u mentioned it...bastard! :mad:

of course its not neccesary!!! its WC! :D

Oh, dont get me wrong, its completely unnecessary but that's why its called Xtreme Systems.:D
So if you're looking at the case from the front all you'll be looking at is two 560's side-on, blowing air from front (1st rad/front of case) to back (2nd rad/back of case).
You could have additional 4x140 fans joining the two rads. It would be quite the monster. I'm only saying this as you're looking to get a second 560 and it would give you a cleaner look if you concentrated the rads in one particular area. Otherwise it stops looking like an X2000. Just an idea, see how you go.:up:

i am thinking of getting a 2nd pump, not rad.
got plenty of rads! :D
i like the idea though, would look BIG! :)

it stopped looking like a x2000 a looong time ago

Interceptor ftw! :D

can't get over how big this looks now with the rads mounted...
it reminds me of a bodybuilder, the case is the torso and the rads are the arms... :D

sony camera battery is dead :mad: (have i mentioned, dont EVER buy crappy non-standard sony products!)
so heres a quick phone pic of my rig next to my dog for scale,
his names Coffee (don't ask!) and hes a full grown German Shepard... :rofl:

is that a lazy suzan under your case? :lol2:

This build is phat :shocked:
The 2nd pump sounds like a good idea, Is that Aqua res in front of pump the nickel plated brass model?
+1 on the sideways mounting of the rads, 560 rad stands are a good idea but custom would be nicer ;)

yeah susans a lazy biatch so i stuck her under my pc.. :rofl:

well spotted! i got a few diff sizes of them from a $2 shop, best find ever, really handy for working on pcs.

I can sit at my desk and look at pc, or lie down on couch and easily turn it to face me. :)
case is very heavy now and hard to turn without it. :up:

yeah nickel plated brass res, weighs a ton, well 1.4kg, but feels like a ton!
i just saw the white delrin model came out recently, i like it for the lighting options, but this nickel res is brilliant, ALMOST as nice as my old reserator! :D

those rad stands look good, but i agree custom mods are always better.

I planned to do a lighting test and decide on res placement tonight,
BUT after Alexandros comments about LEGO, i stuck my head in the toyshop today and found a new (to me) technic model 8049

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MBEVlUMi9k...0091009+1b.png
it's in the "farming" range that i haven't seen available in Oz before.
and it has "pneumatic" actuators!! :eek:
ive bashed together the "A" version, and about to tear it down and do the "B" which looks better imho.

http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/A...00-xx-33-2.jpg

the pneumatics will combine nicely with the parts in my 8292

http://www.mygoodies.co.za/catalog/i...cker_built.jpg
& 8294

http://www.mygoodies.co.za/catalog/i...ator_built.jpg

to make some cool moving contraptions..
might even use it in my build to position and MOVE lights :D

edit: just attached these pics of a pc i sent across oz here, so i could link them to another thread :)

ok back OT

finally got around to doing a final lighting test.
here's just a taste of where this build is heading.. :D