7 second bootracer times?!!?! post em here if u have fast storage

*****EDIT:April 2011.........(2)ocz limited vertex buggy drives(refunded) .....(1)crucial 300 100gig (buggy,refunded)..........ssd,s for me......not quite yet.talk to intel lil better you ssd manufactuers.im name:"bf2nut" on Evga forums.



testing out my hardrive boot times.i wanna see what other ppl get. :rolleyes:


download bootracer here.best program on the planet i think to let u know if your storage is on point.
http://www.greatis.com/bootracer/





ocz limited edition 100 gig,few tweaks.its so snappy !
ACHI MODE ENABLED--
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...OOTSPEED-4.png[/IMG]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...OOTSPEED-4.png




ocz limited edition 100 gig
plain old SATA MODE-----overall slower,as above shows u ACHI is the way to go!!!
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...abootracer.png
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...abootracer.png


put ma 480 under water =) i tested on air stock cooler for 1 month and at fan speed %100(its needed for 2048x1536 85hz gaming)temps were ok at 60-80 range.but also keep in mind i have 4 120,s blasting it on the side of my case 2in away from card.heres the thing fan speed at %100 with gtx 470/480 sound like JET ENGINES TAKING OFF....water is now dead silent and idles 38 vs 50-60 range on air.$120 koolance block pwns.note on koolance block++the leds DONT plug in to the card,they gave a 2 pin header were a 4 is needed.....whatever,it pwns.
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...oto-0015-4.jpg[/IMG]


my internent is not slowing me up! fiber optic ftw!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1.../speedtest.png
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1.../speedtest.png[/IMG]


windows 7 score
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...in7score-1.png
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...in7score-1.png


gtx 480 + 930 @ 4.2ghz ht on + ssd + fiber optic make online gaming a pure ADDICITIVE DRUG again........................!!!!maps load in a blink,gameplay is sooooooooo responsive.i never gamed like this before ever.the bottlenecks are gone.....2010 tech ftw!!!

2x 120G G.skill falcon II raid0 ICHR10 , no tweaks

http://www3.0zz0.com/2010/06/12/10/313305589.jpg

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Originally Posted by koc

2x 120G G.skill falcon II raid0 ICHR10 , no tweaks

http://www3.0zz0.com/2010/06/12/10/313305589.jpg

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very nice setup u got there:up:few questions tho.



1. are u running achi mode? HUGE difference if not! u should be by default running raid mode.



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2. are u running the latest intel ICHR10 driver?

-------should be the INTEL version 9.6.0.1014------ ;) google it




http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...2-and-Agility2

"from ocz forums"

--How do i check what drivers i am currently running for my x58 chipset?--

Start orb/type Device Manager in the search box.

In Device Manager select IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers.

Look for Intel(R) ICHX controller entry.

If not there, U don't have them loaded.

But lets make sure... Double click the AHCI controller entry.right click the properties/driver
Click the driver tab. It should say INTEL and version 9.6.0.1014


Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 files for 64-bit OS
The file below contains the Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 files for 64-bit operating systems. They can be used to create a floppy in order to pre-install the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver during the F6 portion of Windows* setup. The F6 installation method is not required for Microsoft Windows Vista* or Microsoft Windows 7*.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...driver96-1.png

[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...driver96-1.png[/IMG]





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3.is your trim enabled?


http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post442158





from "ocz forums"



---TRIM Commands---



Enable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0





Disable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 1





How do I know if TRIM is working in Windows 7?


Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)


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4. do u use ssd tweaker? amazing tool



"from ocz forums"

really good manual SSD tweaks!!!!!:D

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post442158 <--THIS IS THE WIN7 TWEAKS GUIDE FOR OS AND SSD,S...




SSD Tweak Utility--zip file in link bleow (google ssd tweaker if link is dead)


im sure u have this tool,if not...amazing.:up:


----SSD Tweak Utility download----
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us







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Change from IDE to AHCI Mode after Installation


"from ocz forums"


http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...r-Installation





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20 Windows 7 Tweaks & Tips – Every Secret Uncovered to Date

from "maximumpc.com"

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...uncovered_date


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Here's a real world example :p: no tweaks what so ever, normal startup with firewall and everything, cluttered install. Had to click on the icon to login as well.

Intel x25 80gb g2, MS AHCI drivers.

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Originally Posted by Xcel

Here's a real world example :p: no tweaks what so ever, normal startup with firewall and everything, cluttered install. Had to click on the icon to login as well.

Intel x25 80gb g2, MS AHCI drivers.

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***************UNPLUG ALL EXTERNAL USB STORAGE DRIVES WHEN RUNNING BOOTRACER.***********************



thks for posting!:up:

nice speeds!


is ACHI mode enabled in your bios?


download the ssd tweaker and then re run bootracer.post back plz.



***************UNPLUG ALL EXTERNAL USB STORAGE DRIVES WHEN RUNNING BOOTRACER.***********************

Yes I have AHCI enabled in bios.

here's the best I could do.

Nice, gonna try it out... :)

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Originally Posted by Xcel

Yes I have AHCI enabled in bios.

here's the best I could do.

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nice man:up::up:,what changes were made?

Thank you railmeat for the links , specially the SSD Tweak Utility it awesome :up:
I use Intel ICHR10 driver v8.9.0.1023 ,
Also i think i cant enable AHCI or trim couze I'm using raid0 setup !

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Originally Posted by koc

Thank you railmeat for the links , specially the SSD Tweak Utility it awesome :up:
I use Intel ICHR10 driver v8.9.0.1023 ,
Also i think i cant enable AHCI or trim couze I'm using raid0 setup !

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hey man!


no problem! =)


"I use Intel ICHR10 driver v8.9.0.1023"

wow there very old ,do yourself a favor and get the LATEST intel ICHR10 driver 9.6 driver!



"Also i think i cant enable AHCI or trim couze I'm using raid0 setup !"


im %99 percent sure once u enable raid 0 in bios most mobos automatically go into ahci mode,if not enable it!!

"Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI) rather than the plain AHCI/SATA mode for maximum flexibility, due to the issues caused when the mode is switched once an operating system has already been installed." http://expertester.wordpress.com/200...mark-advantage




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Change from IDE to AHCI after Installation----performance boost!

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...r-Installation



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What is AHCI ?--great read!here http://expertester.wordpress.com/200...ark-advantage/


AHCI stand for Advance Host Controller Interface. AHCI is a hardware mechanism that allows software to communicate with Serial ATA (SATA) devices (such as host bus adapters) that are designed to offer features not offered by Parallel ATA (PATA) controllers, such as hot-plugging and native command queuing (NCQ).

Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI) rather than the plain AHCI/SATA mode for maximum flexibility, due to the issues caused when the mode is switched once an operating system has already been installed.




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*** your drives DO SUPPORT trim feauture!!!!**

TRIM commands-"from ocz site"


How do I know if TRIM is working in Windows 7?


Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)


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Enable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0



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Disable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 1

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YOUR DRIVES!!(below)

G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD Review-


In an effort to remain competitive G.Skill announced the Falcon II series last November. This new SSD line features an updated Indilinx ECO controller, which as you may have guessed provides support for 34nm NAND flash memory as well as the latest firmware from Indilinx (v1819) with improved support for the Windows 7 TRIM command.

Interestingly, these specifications are lower than the claimed speeds of the original Falcon series at 230 and 190MB/s. Apparently this has to do with the new v1819 firmware supporting Windows 7's TRIM command.

The performance penalty may seem like a bad deal on paper. However, with TRIM support enabled the new G.Skill Falcon II SSDs should be able to operate at peak performance consistently over time rather than suffering the common degradation problems of early MLC-based drives.

It can't be emphasized enough<----------------------------*******************************
It can't be emphasized enough
It can't be emphasized enough
It can't be emphasized enough
It can't be emphasized enough that the controller's efficiency plays a major role in solid state drive performance, so we are eager to see how the new Indilinx ECO-based SSD pairs up against the competition.

Read on for an in-depth look.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us




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G.SKILL FALCON 128 GB SSD DRIVE IN RAID O, 128K STRIPE

unbeliveable transfer rates with a pair of these G.Skill FALCON 128 GB SSD drives attached to the ICH10R chipset

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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im thinking we can free up some performance from your nice setup with AHCI mode enabled,newst intel 9.6 driver,and confirm trim is enabled!!!!



please post back here and let me know how u made out,glad i could help out!

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wow there very old ,do yourself a favor and get the LATEST intel ICHR10 driver 9.6 driver!

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yes man i know its very old drive , but it was the latest drive when i install my OS :)
I don't know if i can upgrade to 9.6 driver without format my system ?

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Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI)

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So. my hard drives benefit from AHCI when i use raid0, nice :up:


Unfortunately, it is not possible to trim drives that are setup and used with RAID , but i think Intel release TRIM for RAID

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Thankfully, Intel has solved the problem with the release of a TRIM-compatible driver which finally brings the technology to SSDs in RAID arrays

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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...rim-for-raid/1

thank you again for the links , i will save them for read later :up:

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Originally Posted by koc

yes man i know its very old drive , but it was the latest drive when i install my OS :)
I don't know if i can upgrade to 9.6 driver without format my system?



So. my hard drives benefit from AHCI when i use raid0, nice :up:


Unfortunately, it is not possible to trim drives that are setup and used with RAID , but i think Intel release TRIM for RAID


http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...rim-for-raid/1

thank you again for the links , i will save them for read later :up:

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"yes man i know its very old drive"

i never said it was old,lol.u have 2 VERY NICE solid state drive and 128 gig each at that.if its solid state its a newer drive!



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"I don't know if i can upgrade to 9.6 driver without format my system?"

sure can.... did it last night on my buddys setup using the SAME older intel drivers your running now.we downloaded the intel 9.6,s and installed them.took 30 seconds.

intel 9.6 driver dl(pik your os and version)
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...90&FamilyId=40

how to update driver---get to here(below) then clik on ide/sata contolers,then clik INTEL ich10r,right clik properties,update driver,look for the folder you have the already EXTRACTED intel 9.6 driver,update,done,restart pc.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...driver96-1.png



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"Unfortunately, it is not possible to trim drives that are setup and used with RAID , but i think Intel release TRIM for RAID"


wrong--------- it is possible NOW with intel 9.6 driver---win7 has trim feauture built in its os itself.knowing this fact its a matter if your DRIVES support trim or not(i confirmed yours DO) running raid 0 or single drive.



How do I know if TRIM is working in Windows 7?


Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)


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Enable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0



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Disable TRIM

Go to the Command Prompt and type:

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 1



your operating system needs in-built TRIM support(windows 7 does!), and all drives in the array must be TRIM-compatible(your drives are!). RAID 0 or RAID 1 are NOW well covered.

Now the ground has been broken by Intels 9.6 driver :up:

Are you running SSDs in RAID and looking forward to the additional performance that this latest driver could promise,get the 9.6 installed.


Why You Need TRIM on Your SSD--GREAT READING!!
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/sto...nce-and-trim/1

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so at this point download the intel 9.6 driver,update it.then run cmd prompt and enable trim = better performance and slower degration of the drives themselves.try your best to go in bios and ENABLE ACHI mode AFTER u updated the intel driver and enabled trim.


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confirm AHCI mode working

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...r-Installation

Instruction: There is one way to fix this, although you need to have knowledge of registry editing.

The detailed steps from Microsoft website are as follows:

o Exit all Windows-based programs.

o Press [Win] + R or take the RUN option from the start menu.

o Now type regedit there and press Enter Key to open up the Registry Editor Window.

o If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.

o Locate and then click the following registry subkey:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\msahci

o In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.


o In the Value data box, type 0 [3 is default], and then click OK.


achi is now enabled in win7





Alternatively

Just download this Reg File and double-click to implement AHCI on your Windows-based computer.
Just remember to do the BIOS switch as well when you reboot.


ACHI windows based switching tool.tiny reg file.
http://www.mediafire.com/?l2n1w2ne96z


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new run this morning =)
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ootspeed-5.png[/IMG]




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post back and let me know how u make out!!:up:

This is with loading Kaspersky AV, BOINC (WCG & GPUGRID), eVGA Precision & Dimes on a Crucial 64GB SSD

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Originally Posted by DAK1640

This is with loading Kaspersky AV, BOINC (WCG & GPUGRID), eVGA Precision & Dimes on a Crucial 64GB SSD

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NICE MAN! plz be fair to your own test and untick/disable at startup Kaspersky AV, BOINC (WCG & GPUGRID), & Dimes.ALSO unplug ANY usb storage drives!rerun the test twice.


post back plz!!!







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other good harddrive reads




Crucial c300 went back....trashcan
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ight=bootracer


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bricked a 60 gig imation ssd in 1 day....trashcan



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3x150 veliciraptors raid 0,e8400,8 gigs ram benchmarked....this was my old very fast responsive pc setup.


http://67.90.82.13/forums/showthread.php?p=4262467


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threw the years..since first raptor 36 gig raid 0,74,pair of 150x,s raid 0,velici series 150 and 300 gigers raid 0...always raptors.i would never look at any other drives..til ssd came out.certain ssds with certain controllers just flat ot crush stuff,this one supposedly has the sandforce 1500 controller,others say cross between sf1200-1500....anyone?any way the ocz limited since i had it (goin on 2 months)has been a dream ssd,fast as hell.money well spent so far(knock on wood)

if anyone decides to get this drive-----2 things to note.flash the drive itself to 1.5 firmware with the ocz windows based flash tool,then grab intel ich10r 9.6 drivers,enable ahci and u should be VERY happy with this single drive.my buddy has 2 in raid....unreal 543 read :O gj so far ocz with this drive.i ultimately got my vertex 2 that i wanted with diff name on it :o

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how to update driver---get to here(below) then clik on ide/sata contolers,then clik INTEL ich10r,right clik properties,update driver,look for the folder you have the already EXTRACTED intel 9.6 driver,update,done,restart pc.

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This is the picture from device manager , NO (INTEL ich10r) ?

http://img105.herosh.com/2010/06/14/580556916.jpg

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Originally Posted by koc

This is the picture from device manager , NO (INTEL ich10r) ?

http://img105.herosh.com/2010/06/14/580556916.jpg

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here u go.love how win7 lets u open 2 instances of device manger:up:took a screenie for ya



*******NOTICE 1 crucial THING ON THIS SCREENSHOT!----theres no sata ports etc extensions or tress when i clik it.no other options except genral tab for the AHCI controller and thats it! with NO expanding tree etc.AHCI is enabled now.
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/ahci.png[/IMG]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/ahci.png


i will moniter (in between cod4 mw2!!!)this thread for help other with issues that i am aware of with win7 and ssd,s so far......AHCI mode can be a real pain in teh arse to get working...



what worked for me best in few steps.


get into windows in ide/sata mode

load intel 9.6 ic10r driver(dont reboot yet)



make sure achi is enabled in the registery.----below---


from ocz forums_--middle page

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post442158

Change from AHCI to IDE Mode WHILE IN WINDOWS 7
Instruction:

•Exit all Windows-based programs.
•Press [Win] + R or take the RUN option from the start menu.
•Now type regedit there and press Enter Key to open up the Registry Editor Window.
•If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
•Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Pciide
•In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
•In the Value data box, type 0 [3 is default], and then click OK.
•On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
•Restart your computer
•Go to BIOS and enable IDE, Save & Reboot
•Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.





NOW reboot.

now in bios enable ahci mode,disable NCQ(native cmd cueing)this wont make or break your performance-it will make sure u boot in windows tho.also UNPLUG any usbs not needed(storage drives etc)save and exit--- fire up..should be solid if your in windows now.

Old, but still OK Win7 install, in daily use with eyecandy on, see sig for speccs.. According to BootTimer I'm a second and a bit over my best times though... BootTimer is more accurate, since it times boot to a thousand of a second btw..

http://bildr.no/thumb/668576.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Ourasi

Old, but still OK Win7 install, in daily use with eyecandy on, see sig for speccs.. According to BootTimer I'm a second and a bit over my best times though... BootTimer is more accurate, since it times boot to a thousand of a second btw..

http://bildr.no/thumb/668576.jpeg

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dude...nice.i had my eyes on those intel E, drives while back.i know they run good if there not in a graveyard,lol.i grabbed the crucial c-300(turd)and went back,imation 60 gig bricked,but this ocz single drive is really decent. my buddy has 2 in raid 0 and he loves em....543 reads i think,,,,?i will call him.anyway nice shot man.7 seconds!!!...thats were im at on this single drive!!?!?!?.its so insane.ocz and sandforce hit a home run with this 1 i think.its basically a vertex2 pro diff stickers and diff controller?anyone sf1200- sf1500?...whatver it is its friggin fast and so is your setup bro,good stuff!


u in ahci mode?







edit:
heres the FASTEST ssd i ever owned(link below)...to bad it had MAJOR issues.go marvel controller(worlds fastest 6gbs??!?!sata 3!!! omf.....pfft).intel 10hcrwasnt any better...it was the drive period, get a better controler on that thing and bios that actually dont have heart attacks when checking email let alone gaming.EPIC fail---- i will take a slower drive thats quik and dont die....hmmm basics?STABILTY IS EVERYTHING.....the ssd market is newer and needs players to PROVE themselves with one or two drives that are WORTHY of OUR HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!.the c300 was the biggest disappointment ever.to my new x58 sata 3 mobo?!?!?!? i was so excited for a week....players prove it to us!!! ocz/sandforce is right on point now(good combo) and its working well!!!!!im ready to buy another!only 5,000 made?..!

Crucial c300 went back....trashcan
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ight=bootracer

@railmeat: bad link

Also, 8 256gb c300: 0 issues.

Go to intel or ocz's forums, there are complaints about all drives. You can just be unlucky, it happens.

It's also very well known the marvell controller/driver is very immature and doesn't perform anything like expected, even with 6gb/s drives.

Boot time is a horrible metric for judging performance. The time you spend booting is tiny compared to the time you spend actually using the computer.

Guy #1: Nice new computer seems fast let's play a game.
Guy #2: Yeah it's awesome let me show you this.
Guy #1: Why are you rebooting?
Guy #2: I want to show you how fast it boots!
Guy #1: Who cares? Let's play a game?

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

@railmeat: bad link

Also, 8 256gb c300: 0 issues.

Go to intel or ocz's forums, there are complaints about all drives. You can just be unlucky, it happens.

It's also very well known the marvell controller/driver is very immature and doesn't perform anything like expected, even with 6gb/s drives.

Boot time is a horrible metric for judging performance. The time you spend booting is tiny compared to the time you spend actually using the computer.

Guy #1: Nice new computer seems fast let's play a game.
Guy #2: Yeah it's awesome let me show you this.
Guy #1: Why are you rebooting?
Guy #2: I want to show you how fast it boots!
Guy #1: Who cares? Let's play a game?

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all i do if im not working is game,im NOT benchmarker.bootracer is thee simplest way to if things are starting off right and its a quick(few sec). i merely wanted a thread to compare real ppl,s systems and there ssds with the fastest benchmark on the planet compared to 8hrs prime etc.i had a bad exp with the c-300...i ranted o well,it died on me...do u work for crucial or just backing there products u own built buy them and having good exp with them? u have 8 of them?...not 1 rma(nice)....at $400 each(thats $3,200 + your lsi raid card u have?).....u do well i see? im a lowly union sheetmetal worker welder
50k straight 65k w o/t...i only want 1 drive now that proves itself ,then 2-3 raid 0 time.

i am a extremegamer....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nvidiapwnz/


castle wolfenstein------1 year
enemy terrotory the original---2-3 yrs
played quake3-4 for 5-6years
half life1+2---for 3 yrs
bf2 (the orginal)all mods for 4 years
bf2 2142--1yr
enemy terrortory quake wars--1 yr
call of duty 4-- 1 year
call of duty 4 modern warfare2 -since release date til now

games coming out im buying
call of duty 4 black ops so0n(nov release!)
new medal of honor (release date-autumn 2010)


bf2bc--suks-epic fail,wasted $50----------graphics amazing////gameplay is soooooooooooooooooooo slow.


this is a COMPARE/help/suggest thread plz dont derail it.

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

@railmeat: bad link

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True statement.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

Also, 8 256gb c300: 0 issues.

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My experience just making sure people know c300s aren't bad drives, sorry if yours was bad. (I would be first in line to say they were bad if so)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

Go to intel or ocz's forums, there are complaints about all drives. You can just be unlucky, it happens.

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True statement.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

It's also very well known the marvell controller/driver is very immature and doesn't perform anything like expected, even with 6gb/s drives.

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True statement.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

Boot time is a horrible metric for judging performance. The time you spend booting is tiny compared to the time you spend actually using the computer.

Guy #1: Nice new computer seems fast let's play a game.
Guy #2: Yeah it's awesome let me show you this.
Guy #1: Why are you rebooting?
Guy #2: I want to show you how fast it boots!
Guy #1: Who cares? Let's play a game?

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My opinion and the last parts wasn't needed, my apologies.

I guess boot time can be a decent initial clue of single drive performance. Keep in mind if you add another drive or two and do raid 0 you may get much better actual everyday computer usage performance but your boot time is going to suffer because of the raid controller initialization. At this point boot time stops being useful in my opinion. (note: I don't think it's useful ever but it's certainly not useful when adding a raid controller)


Discussions about money never go anywhere. I could have been saving pennies for years and finally splurged on a new computer. I could be 15 years old and have rich parents. Expensive doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. Read/Write speeds on SSDs are real numbers, "expensive" "cheap" "not worth it" are all subjective and not worth the argument.

One more thing I should have added in my original post: I have a raid controller (2 initializations counting 9260 and ich10r) so I wouldn't really know but 6 seconds seems very fast, congrats!

Edit: Sorry just wanted to add something:

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Originally Posted by railmeat

all i do if im not working is game,im NOT benchmarker.bootracer is thee simplest way to if things are starting off right

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This is what you said in your response but it's not what you seemed to say in your OP..

Quote:

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Originally Posted by railmeat

download bootracer here.best program on the planet i think to let u know if your storage is on point.

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This is clearly not true because of reasons stated earlier, adding more drives in R0 increases performance yet also increases boot time so obviously lowest boot time doesn't equal best performance.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mbreslin

True statement.



My experience just making sure people know c300s aren't bad drives, sorry if yours was bad. (I would be first in line to say they were bad if so)



True statement.



True statement.




My opinion and the last parts wasn't needed, my apologies.

I guess boot time can be a decent initial clue of single drive performance. Keep in mind if you add another drive or two and do raid 0 you may get much better actual everyday computer usage performance but your boot time is going to suffer because of the raid controller initialization. At this point boot time stops being useful in my opinion. (note: I don't think it's useful ever but it's certainly not useful when adding a raid controller)


Discussions about money never go anywhere. I could have been saving pennies for years and finally splurged on a new computer. I could be 15 years old and have rich parents. Expensive doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. Read/Write speeds on SSDs are real numbers, "expensive" "cheap" "not worth it" are all subjective and not worth the argument.

One more thing I should have added in my original post: I have a raid controller (2 initializations counting 9260 and ich10r) so I wouldn't really know but 6 seconds seems very fast, congrats!

Edit: Sorry just wanted to add something:



This is what you said in your response but it's not what you seemed to say in your OP..



This is clearly not true because of reasons stated earlier, adding more drives in R0 increases performance yet also increases boot time so obviously lowest boot time doesn't equal best performance.

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dude bring something positive,if not....then dont post period.like i said don,t DERAIL my thread plz.comparison/help thread.

BootRacer is a usefull benchmark, but for my usage patterns it holds little value.
Here's a run on my soon to be 3 year old laptop with 2,0Ghz C2D, 2GB DDR800, GT8600M, and OCZ Vertex 30GB FW 1.30.
This installation has been in use since the fall as a student laptop + casual gaming, and has wireless, full program suite, and everything it normally does activated in the run.
Attachment 105532
The desktop actually is shown about 1 sec after the login, and i can do stuff immediately without a slowdown (FF opens in about 1 sec), but there's some stuff with postponed loading that holds up the timer from BootRacer for about 10 sec.

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BootRacer is a usefull benchmark, but for my usage patterns it holds little value.
Here's a run on my soon to be 3 year old laptop with 2,0Ghz C2D, 2GB DDR800, GT8600M, and OCZ Vertex 30GB FW 1.30.
This installation has been in use since the fall as a student laptop + casual gaming, and has wireless, full program suite, and everything it normally does activated in the run.
Attachment 105532
The desktop actually is shown about 1 sec after the login, and i can do stuff immediately without a slowdown (FF opens in about 1 sec), but there's some stuff with postponed loading that holds up the timer from BootRacer for about 10 sec.

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nice.:up:very nice.....

BTW, i forgot to mention, it's with W7. The laptop originally came with XP, but i upgraded past fall.

nice thread..i'll post my force trace time when it arrives :D

i got my force :D

so its win7? and this boottrace 2.3?

i hope my i5 with stock cooling can do 5ghz... :D

edit drive died,grabbed another same 1 and that died after 3 weeks....done with ssd for some time.......not reliable as of yet.fast as hell when they work tho.

man talk about a run of bad luck. i wouldnt write off the whole of ssd's because of a bad experience, i would recommend picking up some intels or iddilinx ssd, maybe the sandforce is getting ya down. hope the issue isnt the sandforce though, i have one inbound.

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man talk about a run of bad luck. i wouldnt write off the whole of ssd's because of a bad experience, i would recommend picking up some intels or iddilinx ssd, maybe the sandforce is getting ya down. hope the issue isnt the sandforce though, i have one inbound.

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i bought the crucial c-300 on day of release and it died also........newest firmware,mobos updates.read below well,the same drive died on anadtechs site also.this tech is to new for now im thinking at this point.were the guina pigs,not me for awhile as im done.threw my velicraptor 150 in and done.i dont run benchmarks all day,i game.speed is great but nothing without basic stabilty.im happy for all the guys who had nothing but good luck with them just not me a i guess...:shrug:

seems like the making or breaking point is 1 month or less.and the weird part is there installed %100 correct and amazing parts surrounding the drives.im not the type either to tinker etc,install windows,1-2 games and thats it!.they run FLAWLESS for like 1-3 weeks then one day u turn on pc and blamo,dead,bluescreen,not recongnized...I have no time for these headaches anymore.

READ THIS THREAD----
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ight=bootracer

railmeat,

how many SSDs have you tried?

I find this quite strange, I've got 20+ SSDs and not a single failure.

I have 5 various makes and models of SSD's ranging back from 2007 (Sandisk 32GB PATA) and all of them work fine with no issues, especially if you are running windows 7.

coming to grips it may be my mobo(chipset?) being buggy? gigabyte x58a-ud3r....i dunno

might grab a ocz revo drive....any thoughts ppl?

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this tech is to new for now im thinking at this point

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:-)

i tryed to install the Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 files for 64-bit OS, but no possible because "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software".

So i went ot bios and enabled the AHCI in the sata mode, but after that no way to boot.
The system hang on the win 7 boot and than BSOD every time.
i also try to diasble all the ide and sata channel leaving just the OS HD ( patriot torqx 64gb) but no way.
To boot again i had to put the sata mode again on " IDE" and no way to install the new driver.

The mobo is a dfi lanparty x48 t3rs ( ICH9R)
OS hd patriot torqx 64gb ssd with win 7 pro 64

and for storage i have an highpoint rocketraid controller( pci ex) with 4 x 500gb raid5

any suggestion ?

Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 it can be installed if u are using the ICHxR raid configuration.... it has nothing to do with Inf files if u are looking for them.

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Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 it can be installed if u are using the ICHxR raid configuration.... it has nothing to do with Inf files if u are looking for them.

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and were i can download the inf file ?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...=3151&lang=eng for the x64 inf

The latest beta driver is 10.0.0.1043

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

Ao1, it looks like I need to bookmark that page :)

9.6.5.x is dated later than 10.0.0.x, strange.

According to the Controller Properties > Driver tab 10.0.0.1043 is newer:

9.6.5.1001 - 30th July 10
10.0.0.1043 - 24th August 10

It would be nice to see a change log but I can't find one.

problem is still if i enable AHCI on the sata mode from bios, the system doesn't boot, and if i don't enable the AHCI, cannot install the driver

coolermaster powersupplies are garbage...

Sorry...havent tried the program and this is my top here:

@ giorgioprimo,
DFI boards don't work with SSD's. Also to switch between IDE, RAID, AHCI you need to edit the registry. It's no mystery that it's not working. It's not supposed to. Your system is bahaving normally. It's a miracle you have it working at all with that board.

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Dug it up for you

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Go into the registry using regedit and change each of the "start"
values in the registry keys below from 3 to 0 and this will allow
you to change between the different modes by just changing the option in your bios each time you reboot.


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\pciide

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\msahci

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\iaStorV

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\iaStor


You might not have the last registry key (iastor) as this is installed
in the registry with the intel raid drivers, the default windows 7 raid driver uses the iastorV key.

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@ giorgioprimo,
DFI boards don't work with SSD's. Also to switch between IDE, RAID, AHCI you need to edit the registry. It's no mystery that it's not working. It's not supposed to. Your system is bahaving normally. It's a miracle you have it working at all with that board.

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Dug it up for you

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Where did you see that DFI boards do not work with SSDs? :confused:

I'm running a DFI board and a Vertex 2 without issues and I'm exactly on par with everyone else on these boards for speeds.

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Where did you see that DFI boards do not work with SSDs? :confused:

I'm running a DFI board and a Vertex 2 without issues and I'm exactly on par with everyone else on these boards for speeds.

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I've used an Intel 80GB G2 with both a UT P45-T2RS(ich10r) and a LT X48-T2R(ich9r) with no issues whatsoever over the past 11 months. I don't think his DFI board is the issue here either.

win 7 64. No tweaks with all drivers installed.

980x @ 4ghz, 12gb mem, Areca 1880ix-24 4xc300 64gb ssd r0. 2x5870 cfx

The boottime is not all about fast storage, it will be very fast with full tewaked ("Nlite") windows with few programs installed and not much hardware installed.

wow unbelievable :) very nice result.

just found this thread. lol
rig in sig
full OS, HT off lowered the time, and deleting ATI driver dropped it a couple seconds. otherwise full standard Win 7 and 24/7 settings.



http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...bootracerr.png

Great benchmark...best I have done was 7.2.