can anyone bring any info to light on this? I heard rumours of them "revolutionising the radiator market" with something new recently
cheers :up:
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can anyone bring any info to light on this? I heard rumours of them "revolutionising the radiator market" with something new recently
cheers :up:
If those are an inlet and an outlet on the side, win. Will buy.
If this is truly what Feser had in mind, then this would make filling and draining much easier thanks to the multiple ports.
The idea isn't new...
Phobya G-Changers have dual inlet/outlet...
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Originally Posted by JoeBar
Why sure it is new.....it's by Feser!!! They never copy.
LOL!
what im wondering is why it looks like alu.. as they wouldnt be that stupid.. lol
I'm guessing they just made a black anodized aluminum shroud.
A nice touch, in some cases I suppose. Black satin paint is much safer as far as matching many different cases.
It would probably look pretty good in MM cases. A cube for a cube. :D
Interesting little thing
Feser didnt just removed itself from the Rad market ?
why would they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boulard83
troll?
Xchanger are out
Was sure rhey retired !Quote:
Originally Posted by feser web site
Retired "xchanger" name will be making new with new nameQuote:
Originally Posted by Boulard83
This looks like a teaser shot more than anything....they're not showing the important part, the radiator section....that's what I'm curious about :cool:
Just to put things in perspective....in bringing this to market, they killed production of what is, arguably, the most solid performing radiator in the market.
no specs? looks like 120mm ones to me
is that a neoprene pad between the rad n fan?
me think is two in/out port? better flow? if yes would hold new rad buy to check this new baby.
A more accuracy eta would be nice
Definitely an innovative idea, but I would have to agree with Vapor. You can't see the important part yet which is the radiator.
If somehow Feser managed to top their performance of the XChanger line with this feature it would be awesome, but with the way Feser has priced their radiators in the passed, it makes me worry.
I'm really wondering how the water flow/tanks are arranged.
In a "traditional" two pass rad, the rad is "split" into two halves, lengthwise, so the water flows down one length, back up the other half.
In this, is it a two pass arranged in layers, top and bottom vs. side-by-side?
Just wondering given the arrangement of the two sets of ports. The arrangement of the end ports almost seems to dictate it's a two pass that's layered.
Feser is playing the performance/premium price game. You can be sure that the price will either be the same as the Xchangers or even higher else it wouldn't do justice to the snazzy boxes they come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms
Wes
Is this an image that can be found on the web or has it been strategically sent out to the most trustworthy Fester shills to seed interest?
I really dislike the fact that Feser charges so much for their radiators, I really can't see myself spending that much on a radiator when the whole watercooling hobby is as expensive as it is. But I guess some can say thats what differentiates me between Xtreme and normal.
It's on Feser's index page....."Who Is It?"
Those sneaky marketing bastards!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
oh......wait........I'm in marketing! lol
Why are those in/outlets so close to each other??
Phil
Ah, I generally avoid soiling my browser and hardware when I don't have to so, I hadn't looked there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminn55
As for the "layered" 2 pass you speculated on, looks like a given considering the fitting layout on the end of the tank. It's not a new concept, seeing that it's already being used by the GTX.
:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
We've had a few run in's with a couple of them here and they do cause quite a ruckus every so often. It's like whack-a-mole, they pop up, we smack 'em, they go away for awhile then pop up again. :ROTF:
There's Xtreme price and there's Xtreme performance. The price differential for the extra 1-2c is quite nuts to be honest. Oh well, one man's meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms
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Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Yeah, I forgot about the GTX. Of course, Koolance has a rad with its fittings at the end, too, but only at the end, not in both places.
C'est la vie.....given Feser's pricing and product schemes in the past, this "miraculous new" rad will probably be nothing more than a rehash of existing products from other companies....just with a "Screw You" premium from Feser.
Why do some people speak of TFC this way? what have they done to upset you so much? really curious, I've only ever used xchangers, I think there great :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Mario and Martin (owners of Fester) are a couple of complete scumbags. They're insulting and rude, I've seen a copy of some IM communications between Mario and a product reviewer, when that reviewer didn't have a gushing review of a Fester product, let's just say it wasn't pretty. It looked like a schoolyard bully (Mario) trying to get some kids lunch money @ recess. I've also seen them threaten other vendors with physical violence through a 3rd party (one of their shills), on this very site. . .and don't even get me started on their marketing BS. They are a couple of ppl the world would clearly be better off without. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by ell
This was completely new to me, i had no idea. Thanks for the insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
why has nobody mentioned the awful voice on their site ?
Its the most awful thing ever, especially at 3 in the morning.
All of the above
+ bad graphic design :welcome:
1: Even the people that buy Feser stuff rarely go onto their site.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_dope_chaud
2: No one likes a voice that sounds like Gunther, so we stay away from it at all cost.
http://goodbadfrench.files.wordpress...er-416_368.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Because when I do go there, I hit the mute button on my keyboard before I ever do the Google search for the address. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by the_dope_chaud
They could have built the core with a lot of tiny round tubes running through punched fins, think similar to a heatpipe tower cooler. I've thought about doing that for a couple years now. I just wanted to post now so that if that is their design, nobody can claim I stole it.
Time will tell.
Feser: Full of innovative ideas... :lol2:
wow. thats xtreme. they sound like a pair of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:s! cheers for the info, will avoid in the future :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
You're going to end up guessing incorrectly and then I'll steal your idea muahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by iandh
Lol I was just getting it up there just in case... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottALot
I really have been planning on that for a while though. I think a really high performance rad could be made with a hundred or so thin wall small diameter copper tubes puched through aluminum fins, somewhat similar to modern heatpipe coolers.
The restriction would be similar but the coolant/metal surface area ratio would be higher.
God I can't stand of that voice thing, makes my cats unhappy :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by the_dope_chaud
While we're guessing at design possibilities. Knowing Fester's penchant for "original" ideas, I'm gonna say dimples. :rofl:
. . .and may your Jäger machine be empty.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
+ bad graphic design and SOUND! Surprise me every time visit their site. Haha!
To be honest, more than one person thought of adapting the recent advances in CPU tower coolers. I want to see a design similar to TRUE with staggered stacked fins adapted to watercooling, that would probably be rather expensive to produce (but again, maybe not if the current production tools from say, Thermalright can be reused) and i'd be very curious to see the actual results. I'm also surprised that TR didnt try to make one (they made a waterblock after all)..Quote:
Originally Posted by iandh
Feser is the best :)
OH Yes! Feser is the best truly! Every self-respecting LC-er should have primochill T3, feser rads and TT for rest of components in his case! :)
Have i mentioned miracleous effects of using snake oil aswell? I might even make flash presentation with sound to ilustrate never-before gains :)
P.S.
Using unicorn horns instead of silver killcoils bring better results too.
I see topic change :)
i like feser design with all the colors - but I've heard only negative about there aggresive marketing handling ...
Perhaps a reason for stopping Xchangers production
They are focusing on their new line of radiators which will be more expansive than the Xchangers. I say let Skinnee get them and test them . . .and let numbers speak. If I wanted to get into cat fights and such I would at at a different forum.
exactly, if its performance is really good, I will consider to buy one, but the price should not be extremely high
You can count on it for 2 very simple reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by rheydt
1. It's Fester
2. It's some supposed new miracle technology
1. testQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
2. test
Let Skinnee do his job . . .then we will have a basis for commenting.
1. could care lessQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
2. could care less
This "new tech" could cure cancer for all I care and I'll still not buy it. They've crossed far to many lines of decent corporate behavior with other companies and friends of mine to receive any kind of second chance.
LOL - I did not know Feser was responsible for the oil spill and Hurricane Katrina . . .it all makes sense now. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
They were also responsible for the 2006 Tsunami. :yepp::p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Feser deserves to burn in a fire just because of the awful sound on their website. It is officially the worst website that I have ever seen in my life.
And that being said I have never bought and I will never buy their products, just because of the sound. And this thread just gives me more reasons not to than just the sound alone.
price will be high.. like always you get what you pay for..Quote:
Originally Posted by rheydt
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Originally Posted by Waterlogged
like always i will still buy for the same reason i buy "monster" brand cables... becuase their build quality & Quality control are much better than the rest.. i dont care about any of the fancy mubo jumbo.. i know know that when i pay more i get more..which any of you penny savers can argue but there is no denying the fact that tfc makes superior product.. just so many people interested in the "bang for the buck" (yes you waterlogged :p:)..
but in the end who cares as its only like 40$ more.. im a poor college student and it doesnt bother me that much :D
<3 theres my 2 cents :shrug:
Oh yeah, the x-changers were never manufactured in Germany as claimed (merely painted there), made in China like every other rad save Thermochill. ;) The mark up on them was extraordinarily high so they could reap major profits. Go ahead a keep fooling yourself NK, you'll eventually learn someday. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
That's like me saying a bottle of my tap water sold for $5/bottle is better than the tap water you get at the store, $5/case.Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Just because it costs a lot, doesn't mean it performs well. Thermochill is an exception, as are the Black Ice rads. Look at Swiftech - cheapest of the bunch and still performs like mad.
I agree, although it doesn't mean it works the other way around. Like you stated, Swiftech is dirt cheap compared to other rads, but still outperforms several of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
I really don't think there's any part in the watercooling industry that the 'more expensive = better' applies, but that's mainly because Feser operates in a lot of areas. Although they do make very cheap fittings, at least here in EU (which leak...).
Feser makes a solid product albeit priced a little high. I'd take it over the MCR's... (j/k waterlogged - don't blow a valve - laugh!)
using your logic - we should not support Sidewinders, Jabtech, or Bitspower since they have banner ads in the most wretched hive of scum and villainy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Don't support those 2 for that very reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I'm not sure about J-T as I've heard that they were only recently added and if John is the person I think he is, it's not there at his request. Jury is out to recess on that until I get more info on that.
Maybe we should drop this topic until there's relevant info to add about the actual radiator ;)
And by "maybe we should drop this topic" I mean "Drop it" :fact:
want me to get some quotes from Feser about that new radiator line? I have already been told stuff but I would rather get direct info.
That would be great :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I've been told stuff too about it, but nothing direct. If you can get some new info, that'd be sweet :toast:
What I have heard though, it is a departure from what's out there now. No idea how it will perform though :eh:
Ow come on guys, Vapor just told us to drop it :ROTF:
well thats good to hear :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
at least buying snake oil makes you feel like your getting somthing extra.. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Well It's a good thing that I've stated my opinion on Fester quite often around here. . .otherwise, ppl would really think that fictional post really came from me. :p::D;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Good, then you won't mind if I use it as sig :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandr0s
Thinner is better!?
That's mean. New users will really believe your :banana::banana::banana::banana: and actually buy them :shakes:
Actually, the way and behavior of doing business are as important as products performance itself, we´d better not to buy their products to support such company like Fester
OK Alexandr0s, I've let you have a couple days of fun, now please change/remove that sig. http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6084/waiting2.gif ;)
Fine... Partypooper :rolleyes::rofl:. Is this better :rolleyes:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged