Internal shots of Danger Den 480 block

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04-02-2010, 04:25 AM
DarthBeavis

Internal shots of Danger Den 480 block

Keep in mind these were taken right off the mill . . .
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2543/imgp0620.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5232/imgp0619t.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1238/imgp0618.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9823/imgp0617m.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1381/imgp0616x.jpg
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5740/imgp0615.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7816/imgp0614n.jpg
04-02-2010, 04:31 AM
overclocking101

not bad, looks a tad restricted but not bad.
04-02-2010, 04:41 AM
DarthBeavis

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Originally Posted by overclocking101

not bad, looks a tad restricted but not bad.

the card is a challenge to get flow over the entire card . . .
04-02-2010, 05:05 AM
TJ TRICHEESE

i like the fact that the coolant goes over most of the card, unlike the EVGA block :shakes:
04-02-2010, 10:47 AM
bentleya

Did we really need another thread? Anyways Insides look great :)
04-02-2010, 10:50 AM
Monstru

I R drooling here. Could we stept up production please? :D
04-02-2010, 12:14 PM
gmat

Hard to make out the difference between actual channels and machining marks with that lighting ;)
04-02-2010, 12:17 PM
zanzabar

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRICHEESE

i like the fact that the coolant goes over most of the card, unlike the EVGA block :shakes:

analogue pwms dont get to hot so they dont need the full card to have liquid, but the evga (or swiftech since thats who made it) has a much better gpu cooling with a micro pin setup. it will be interesting to see who has a better performing block
04-02-2010, 12:33 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

analogue pwms dont get to hot so they dont need the full card to have liquid, but the evga (or swiftech since thats who made it) has a much better gpu cooling with a micro pin setup. it will be interesting to see who has a better performing block

then I wonder why Nvidia made that specification?
04-02-2010, 01:15 PM
zanzabar

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

then I wonder why Nvidia made that specification?

what specification, i figured that evga would do whatever NV had speced and was cheapest
04-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Alexandr0s

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

what specification, i figured that evga would do whatever NV had speced and was cheapest

I believe Nvidia told it's partners that certain components besides the GPU require active cooling.
04-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Church

I wonder which is more difficult to produce, micropins or deep microchannels like @EK Supreme HF. Seeing success of it with good thermal exchange and relatively little flow restriction microchannels seems like wonderful idea to be used in all other types of waterblocks (well, except maybe where only small ammounts of heat should be cooled, and least restriction is best choice (like MB/ram/HDD and alike waterblocks of 2ndary importance)).
04-02-2010, 02:55 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandr0s

I believe Nvidia told it's partners that certain components besides the GPU require active cooling.

Exactly. Danger Den could have made a cheaper block by not having water channels over all the card and having the top be delrin or acrylic. Normally AIC's spec the design of the waterblocks (as EVGA did in this case). This is the first time I know of that Nvidia actually took a more active part in ensuring a waterblock that met their specifications was on the market at or near launch. I hope part of this is my constantly making sure water-cooling was constantly a topic when speaking with thier upper marketing management. It also helped that Nvidia Tom and Paul are PDXLAN regulars which puts them in contact with the high level of builders there as well as the owners of Danger Den.

I am not taking anything away from Gabe's block as it has done well in tests and I am sure will serve people well. I am sure Eddy will have a nice block available as will Koolance. It is important, especially here where many people have been DD bashers in the past, to at least acknowledge they did a good job on this one. They guys there DO actually care what you guys think.
04-02-2010, 03:34 PM
gmat

I have always liked DD blocks. Their full cover blocks have always been top notch. They only have been equalled by EK and that says a lot.
As for covering VRM's i think the hybrid waterblock / heatpipe solution may work nice enough. I'm just wondering how it would do without airflow (most likely in a watercooled case)...

DB, how much weight does that new block add compared to typical delrin/plexi topped full cover blocks ? I guess we'll have to start using those card holders that come with some cases...
04-02-2010, 03:44 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

It is important, especially here where many people have been DD bashers in the past, to at least acknowledge they did a good job on this one.

:up:

DD makes nice stuff.. no agrument about that.
And there stuff in the past was not bad.

I prefer DD over EK on GPU Blocks.. and EK over swiftech.
04-02-2010, 04:20 PM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmat

I have always liked DD blocks. Their full cover blocks have always been top notch. They only have been equalled by EK and that says a lot.
As for covering VRM's i think the hybrid waterblock / heatpipe solution may work nice enough. I'm just wondering how it would do without airflow (most likely in a watercooled case)...

In the EVGA cooling solution, the heatsink VRM area is linked to the water-block via a heatpipe.. which means that the heatpipe is liquid cooled. This qualifies as active cooling. So there is no need for a fan :-)
04-02-2010, 04:52 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

In the EVGA cooling solution, the heatsink VRM area is linked to the water-block via a heatpipe.. which means that the heatpipe is liquid cooled. This qualifies as active cooling. So there is no need for a fan :-)

Does liquid from the loop flow through the heatpipe? If so, that is a really cool design I will admit. If the numbers show your block works then that is all that matters in the end.
04-02-2010, 05:00 PM
gmat

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

Does liquid from the loop flow through the heatpipe? If so, that is a really cool design I will admit. If the numbers show your block works then that is all that matters in the end.

From what we can see in the thread related to that block, the heatpipe ends up in the waterblock base, but water doesnt flow *through* it, i guess it's just conducting heat through the copper base.

As for that DD block internals, can we get a shot with softer lighting ? :P
04-02-2010, 05:08 PM
Sadasius

Dang, looking at the block makes me wonder what that rubber ring looks like. There is a couple spots where I am thinking it's a magic ring or something.
04-02-2010, 06:34 PM
DarthBeavis

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

Dang, looking at the block makes me wonder what that rubber ring looks like. There is a couple spots where I am thinking it's a magic ring or something.

laser cut gasket.
04-02-2010, 07:50 PM
xguntherc

when can I get one
04-02-2010, 07:56 PM
the finisher

Ooh Cu

So the whole block is copper:exclaim: This will make custom platting easy.

Very Blingness:D
04-03-2010, 03:53 AM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by the finisher

So the whole block is copper:exclaim: This will make custom platting easy.

Very Blingness:D

they will have them nickle-plated ;)

Quote:

As for that DD block internals, can we get a shot with softer lighting ? :P

I am still on the road (working for Nvidia) with the Panasonic Touch the Future Tour. I will fly home for a few days then go to Miami for the last stop in this tour. After that I will get more pictures for you including the plated block and installed on the card and also the new Rampage III blocks (if granted permission from Asus of course). I will be building my pinup gaming rig once I get back from these trips ;) The goal is four 480s with a Gulftown.
04-03-2010, 04:22 AM
the finisher

Looking forward to it. Godspeed on the trip:up:
04-05-2010, 10:09 AM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

Does liquid from the loop flow through the heatpipe? If so, that is a really cool design I will admit. If the numbers show your block works then that is all that matters in the end.

No; there is a small amount of liquid inside of the heat pipe, but not that from the liquid cooling system. Here is a simplified refresher course on heat pipes: a heat pipe is a sealed tube that is filled with a small amount of fluid under very low pressure. The low pressure allows the fluid to boil at low temperature. Thus, at the hot spot the fluid boils and enters into a vapor state. The vapor travels thru the pipe, carrying heat with it, and it condensates at the cold spot where it releases the latent heat; the fluid then flows by capillarity back to the hot spot where the cycle begins again. Heat pipes are extraordinarily efficient at conducting heat from one spot to another; by cooling them with a powerful L/C system, you can drop their thermal resistance to allow them to conduct very large volumes of thermal energy.
04-05-2010, 10:26 AM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

No; there is a small amount of liquid inside of the heat pipe, but not that from the liquid cooling system. Here is a simplified refresher course on heat pipes: a heat pipe is a sealed tube that is filled with a small amount of fluid under very low pressure. The low pressure allows the fluid to boil at low temperature. Thus, at the hot spot the fluid boils and enters into a vapor state. The vapor travels thru the pipe, carrying heat with it, and it condensates at the cold spot where it releases the latent heat; the fluid then flows by capillarity back to the hot spot where the cycle begins again. Heat pipes are extraordinarily efficient at conducting heat from one spot to another; by cooling them with a powerful L/C system, you can drop their thermal resistance to allow them to conduct very large volumes of thermal energy.

From the sounds of the tests being run with your block it seems to work well.
04-05-2010, 12:09 PM
eternal_fantasy

So the heat from the VRM goes like this;

Swiftech:
VRM -> TIM/pad -> aluminium plate -> TIM -> heatpipe -> TIM -> edge of main copper plate -----> center of main copper plate -> water

DangerDen:
VRM -> TIM/pad -> main copper block -> water

Correct me if i'm wrong.

I guess the GTX 480's VRM don't need that much active cooling in the first place seeing they are not digital.