Good morning everybody,
Ok - now at 31333. :)
I increased vcore to 1.5v and was able to dial in 4.75ghz with memory at 2016 6-7-7 1T.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=299317
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3...rkvwr31333.png
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Good morning everybody,
Ok - now at 31333. :)
I increased vcore to 1.5v and was able to dial in 4.75ghz with memory at 2016 6-7-7 1T.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=299317
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3...rkvwr31333.png
Nice one Steve.....didn't think it was going to take you long :up:
wow congrats.. did i read right that's 12x ACARDs? That's nearly AUD$6k just there :eek:
Thanks guys.
eva - so physically six acard "boxes" each set to R0 - so actually 2x6=12 R0
oh i see.. thought 12x of them - dam you must post a photo of the system you're running - would be such a sight :D
A few pics - really not much to look at - homemade rack setup in a closet - functional I suppose -
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/9319/dsc03182za.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1181/dsc03181vp.jpg
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/658/dsc03179b.jpg
thanks.. reminds me of one of my rigs old DFI 875P-T Pentium 540 Prescott hehe
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/875P_T...e_4852_011.JPG
great minds think alike!
Hey, great job mr mbreslin! - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=295688
I think this puts you at #4 right behind Mr Nizzen.
LSI 9260 and crucial c300's - making progress.
Come on Mr Nizzen - time to put up some more scores.
Awesome results! Congrats :up:
Well done steve, I'm coming though!
Good morning, I pushed the vcore to 1.45v to get the 980 oc to 4.65, I wanted to be the first over 30K -
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=296347
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...agewr30359.png
congrats steve, thought the last one won't hold more then a few days with 200 points extra only,
that's quite of a jump here, maybe this one will :yepp:.
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oh, so this is how u place u'r stuff,
you actually got a small lab there
that looks better then u'r avatar :yepp:
E: 2nd grats for the 30!:up:
Nice job. I really wish I could give this damn bench a try w/ the ioXtreme.
wow 30k
congrats stevero!
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Originally Posted by onex
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Originally Posted by lowfat
Thanks guys - once the serious subzero folks have sometime with the 980 I imagine all the top 20 vantage numbers for pcmark and 3dmark will be going up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
Does it actually use more than 4 CPU's?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Seems like it must - I need to run it with task manager open and see.
wow congrats over 30k!
my first pcmark vantage oc'd run i7 980x @4ghz single hd5870 single 80GB X25-M G2 heh http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=296388 = 21,258
Thanks eva2000, hey, nice run!Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Do you still have your highpoint controller?
For each intel drive you add (R0), I bet you get 1k or more for each!
I bet you could probably get 25k or more with 4x x25-v or m on your system.
I ran the primary suite test in dual monitor with task manager max in 2nd monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
1 subtest used only 1 thread, 3 subtests used all 12, all the rest used 6 threads (not supporting hyperthreading?). CPU was at 4.14ghz, cpu utlization varied wildly as you would expect - 0-5% up to 70-80%, I don't think I saw anything 90 or above - interesting.
edit - this was with a single x25-v for storage not the acard array - with the 1231/acard array cpu utlilization mig be able to go higher.
Great work Steve, congrats for the 30k! :clap:
Congrats but how come its not showing on the Hall of Fame page or in compares?
Sometimes it takes the orb a while to update - I've seen it take 2-3 days.
Woah! :eek:
Congrats on the WR, this is an amazing score! :up:
"The LN2 or SS guys should be able to bump me off the top but only if they have a good storage system attached."
I'm not trying to make light of your fantastic score, but there lies the problem..no points awarded, no interest level. If PCMark 05 is outdated and prone to hacks, etc. I wish the Bot would make this the new standard. Will have to PM you at some point Steve for tips on a storage system..:yepp:...is the new 1880 going to be the one to have?
Congrats on the record, I think you can squeeze more out of that rig. :up:
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Originally Posted by Expat GriZ
If you use slow shipping methods or live far from the city, it may be obsolete by the time it gets to your door. :(
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Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Thanks guys, others with 980's will be giving me a run for my money soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
They may need a good storage system though.
Best bang for the buck xtreme storage -Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat GriZ
option 1 - 4x intel x25-v on either ich10r (soon with trim) ~$500 or
a little faster - option 2 - same array on an LSI 9211-8i - ~ $730.
Yes, 1880 with 4GB cache (whenever that arrives) should be a killer controller, we will see soon.
Generally oh so true - that said - in the storage arena - both the Areca 1231ML-2G/4G and the acard 9010s have been on top for a while and just now they may be beginning to show their age. LSI 9211-8i and 9260-8i is catching up to Areca and the 3rd generation SSDs (ocz vertex LE, owc mercury, maybe the crucial realSSD) are beginning to give the acards some competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellowbeard
Some of the new pcie direct connect storage devices like ioxtreme have the potential to be huge game changers
intels E versions are acard killers ;) 1rst generation of SSD and almost same price :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Good morning Tilt,
I thought x25-e's might be faster also until I read this, looks like acard 9010 is still better performance for the most part -
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=215670
The conclusion of that compare - quote -
Conclusion
Is the ANS-9010 the fastest mainstream storage drive in the world? Yes.
No matter how many times I run the benchmarks, or even by using Vista daily on it for the last few weeks, the answer is always the same.
I have a "thing" with solid state technology and I have bought, tested and used most of the SLC SSDs that have been available to the public since September 2007 (Memoright, Mtron, Sandisk, Intel, Samsung and OCZ) as well as the Gigabyte i-Ram.
The fact that it is using RAM, automatically means that it does not suffer by the issues that some (if not all) SSDs have to live with (wearing off, limited write cycles, performance hit with filesystem fragmentation, etc.)
Leaving the pagefile on, doesn't hurt it. Enabling or disabling indexing doesn't make a single difference, search results appear faster than your gfx card can render ;o
Also, fitting it with Lifetime warranty DIMMs, means that I don't have to worry about "bad sectors". DIMM fails, pull it out, restore the OS on a slightly smaller partition, replace it.
So what stops everyone from getting the fastest storage into their systems? As quickly and simply the previous answer was given: the cost.
Not the cost of the device itself, rather than the total cost for getting the ANS-9010 populated with enough DDR2 gigabytes to make it usefull as an OS drive.
I do not consider the limited capacity to be an issue, as it can be resolved by getting 4Gb modules and of course by getting as many ANS-9010 units as your PC case can fit. The common factor in all senarios ends up being the total cost.
The ANS-9010 costs $399 and the shipping costs for EU were $28. The import tax that I had to pay, was €70. The 2Gb Kingston DIMMs I bought for €17 each and the 4Gb Kingston DIMMs go for €95 each.
If you do the math quickly, someone in Europe would have to pay a total of €550 for a 16Gb ANS-9010 or €1150 for a 32Gb one.
The numbers are quite similar in the US as well ($600/16Gb or $1200/32Gb).
ANS-9010 is not the fastest mainstream storage drive... is just the fastest that WE have tested here... there are so many products out there that we didnt test yet.
Acard technology is very old ive seen them in cebit 1999-2000-2001 as militery class using for data processing for fighter jets. but hey this is 2010... many PCIE ssd cards are out there and they are bootable.
Now for SSD's. SSD's were mainly made for Laptops and Enterprises. thats why the mainstream ssd cant perform. Laptops dont need 400Mb/s dont need 20k IO/s.
and ANS-9010 cant fit into a laptop.
I think that we dont use the SSD's for the reason that they r made for...
Enterprices buy SSD's for cache only!!! atleast the company that im working they use SSD's for Caching not for storage and that made me think of why.
From my point of view i think that SSD's are not mature. we have long long way ahead. SSD's technology of today is not even 60% compatible with the staff that we have.
I agree you with you that the conversion to SSD is still just starting.
Also once the bugs are ironed out - I think direct connet pcie storage - dram/flash or eventually perhaps all flash - should be the next big thing in xtreme storage.
I am somewhat surprised at how slow the direct pcie solution in proceeding - I would have thought there would have been a big race to this.
Eventually - will we get to the point where it's integrated onto the mobo?
using 3 kinds of mobos made me come with some thoughts... mainstream mobos are not made for Raids more than 3 drives. Even with top Controllers on them.
Now intergreting SSD's or nand chips on a mobo is possible but it will be like tables in sizes. Imagine 8 ssd's onboard with 10 chips each on them lol or imagine PCIE cards size to be onboard!!
steve i looked at your results again and they are just impressive. 554 for application loading...whoa! and the decryption score is fantastic as well, you are definitely setting a high bar there bro!
can u support it with an article?
it'll probably fit into a socket, it would be ridiculous for any manufacturer to provide the same MB with different capacities or enforce anyone to buy anything they don't really need.Quote:
the only weakness i see with mobo integrated flash based devices is what if you get a error in a nand chip? rma the whole mobo, also you would need varying capacities of course.
steve - that ACARD test was the reason to say ACARD's are better for benching,
E:mistake, the crucial gave 20k, before going gulftown, u'r system kicked 8 sata 3 SSD's by 6k.
onex - it might still be interesting for mbreslin and I to run a acard vs c300 test.
We would probably need to go to ich10 to take the areca 1231ml-4G and LSI 9260-8i out of the equation.
In the simplist test - 2xC300 vs 2xacard9010 - actually - I think the C300's should win.
Both are excellent at small file i/o - but 2x C300s (seq r/w ~ 530/405) should kill 2x acards in sequential i/o (seq r/w ~ 350/300) - for 2xR0.
If we go to 4xR0 it gets harder to predict.
Acard should really release an updated version of the 9010. A 6Gbps SATA version would really own.
Acard should release a pcie direct connect that is bootable
he'll need a SATA3 compatible MB, anyhow, the real test for actual performance would be the PC vantage one FWIW, the ACARD's seems to overkill it yet it could be that the 1231 cache has something to do with it.Quote:
it might still be interesting for mbreslin and I to run a acard vs c300 test.
We would probably need to go to ich10 to take the areca 1231ml-4G and LSI 9260-8i out of the equation.
In the simplist test - 2xC300 vs 2xacard9010 - actually - I think the C300's should win.
Both are excellent at small file i/o - but 2x C300s (seq r/w ~ 530/405) should kill 2x acards in sequential i/o (seq r/w ~ 350/300) - for 2xR0.
If we go to 4xR0 it gets harder to predict.
he'll need to set up his system though, maybe on that 64KB block,
it's still early to estimate it's full capabilities without testing the array on different alignments.
yeah, maybe even dual sata controllers for raiding both of the modules arrays on different cabling - from a RC.Quote:
Acard should really release an updated version of the 9010. A 6Gbps SATA version would really own.
that'll would give u 8 options actually without the need to buy more hardware,
sata3 should perform much better, giving each link with higher bandwidth, eliminate the early saturation of the protocol, atleast from the datasheet-specified bandwidth capability,
maybe just a half system - half capacity for benching.
onex - pc vantage suite score loves cache.
w/o the areca 4GB cache - I think the score is way different.
im smelling No.9 new record :D congrats Computard for ur new record ;) its about time to see everyone going update :D
The record is now 31333.
I increased vcore to 1.5v and was able to dial in 4.75ghz with memory at 2016 6-7-7 1T.
Added another ~1K points. :)
Also updated post#1.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=299317
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3...rkvwr31333.png
this one seems to last..:).
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3052/cropper12.png
4.75
119
top of the notch,
very nice :up:.
Thanks onex, we will see, I think this is about the best I can do with my current setup.
Ln2 ;) :rofl:...
Or even a single stage. Even w/ the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty single stage I have I can pull 4.8GHz easily enough w/ an i7 920. W/ a 32nm CPU a good single stage should be able to bench easily @ 5GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by onex
yeah stevie go ahead :).
j/k,
or move to antarctica for a day ;)?
Brilliant run!
Well done :)
I was going to jump on a bunch of 3rd gen SSD's but there is a *lot* of erratic performance out there so i'm waiting for the dust to settle ;)
Amazing steve.
Just checking in to say I'm not done, Grabbed new 5970 on ebay to replace my cold bug crappy one, 980x still not shipped from tiget direct :( lsi fastpath still to come, I will not just go away quietly with #4. :p
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Originally Posted by onex
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Originally Posted by lowfat
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Originally Posted by onex
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Originally Posted by Biker
Thanks guys, I think I'm done for a while, this score might hold for a week or two. Once the real subzero folks get a hold of the 980 I expect lots of competition. That said they will still need a strong storage system, a good h/w raid controller and lots of fast ssds - something like what Mr. mbreslin has would fit the bill. Meanwhile, there is something called outdoors - a world beyond my basement my wife tells me - must investigate ...Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
So who is making a good SS these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Who would you recommend?
you mean lot of cache?? cause with out cache ...Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
ruffus (in Ontario) is building mind. He is only guy I've seen in Canada that builds them. Chances are it would be cheaper to find someone closer for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
I have done some reading on the subject - I know how to insulate board/processor - done that before - looks like the clay putty is working our well for folks - from what I can tell. Do you insulate inside the socket? the grease makes such a mess.
I used vaseline in the socket. It can be easily cleaned up w/ some gun cleaner, which isn't harmful to the board at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Holy cow batman - That is so awesome!
Congrats and keep pushing !
Thanks, I have been able to get 4.8 linx stable, ht off. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ
Also, I think I am the first to go over 100gflops in linx. :D
Need to firm this up a bit more than back to pcmark vantage.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4...linxstable.png
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5875/100gflops.png
Sweet!
Just curious - What was your max so far for HT on (linx stable)?
What do you run 24/7 when you're not benching ?
Aren't you getting into "dicey voltage" area for these chips? That's would be an expensive chip to fry :) but obviously you can afford the hardware toys :)
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ
4.8 - i thought that was the 1st screen shot?
power off
yes, very dicey :eek:
correction that 4.8 is ht off - I will go look.
4.72 linx stable with ht on -
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...withhtlinx.png
either way that rocks and to get even 4.5 on my 920 requires 1.4v so that is great. you are using chilled liquid though right?
hopefully i can push higher with my new mobo i get tommorow
switching from a e759 classy to a e760
I agree , still awesome HT on or off :clap:
Can't wait to see your SS results :eek:
Good evening CT how you been?Quote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
Yep, still on the 2x boreas (8 thermal heat exchangers total) - working out great, heavy current draw heats up the connections but she's holding together.
Good luck with the new mobo! :up:
Don't hold your breath on my SS - hopefully lowfat will have some 980x/SS resuts for us soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ
Hard to compete against Corsair labs :yepp:
http://img.hexus.net/v2/news/corsair...Record-big.jpg
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24050
Yes, yes, I just saw this also :(
Excellent score for them!
Kind of hard for a private party to compete with a company like this.
I knew an SS or LN2 score would top me at some point.
Interesting if you look at the subtests marked "HDD".
I beat them - in some places, by a good margin - looks like in 5 out of 6 of the HDD tests.
They won in windows media, I think I won all the rest. :)
I could go visit lowfat when he has his SS/980x set up - bring my 1231/12xacard?
Yea, I think extra cache of a 4gb dimm on the card could have helped the hdd scores. Hard to compete with those ram drives. ;)
See - http://www.tweaktown.com/news/14682/...le+Feedfetcher
I think I might be able take this back with a 980x oc of only 4.95 (maybe 33x150)
Assuming my cooling can handle it, how much vcore should this take?
Corsair used 1.717v (cpuz) for 5.79 - based on this and my previous posts - so wadaya think - how much vcore?
Don't fry your chip, man... its only Vantage ;)
........and they used eleven Force Series SSDs in RAID 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
I know competition at the top is always going to be tough, but losing out to a company does not seem right. :shakes:
How did they have their Force SSD's setup? What controller?
sorry guys but this is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing horsesht they should not be in here busting our chops on vantage. they are a company. now what, areca? highpoint? WTF is the point of that? we should fire off a mass of emails at them and tell them to keep their corporate bullshat out of our benchmarks.:cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing:
EDIT: those bannanas make it look funny but seriously im pissed off about this!
Quote:
How did they have their Force SSD's setup? What controller?
http://blog.corsair.com/?p=2051Quote:
The drives were combined into a Raid 0 on the ArecaŽ ARC-1680D-IX-12 PCI-E RAID controller.
it's not that bad losing a WR for a company steve,
they have much more options then most users have,
it actually places u in a different league..
the 30K was a nice score, and a mouthful of appreciation for that effort,
if u wanna take it a bit higher, u can probably smash them with some extra OC,
some 980's CPU-Z's show easily 1.588 and higher VID.
u don't really have to do it though..
E:
u got a point there CT...
I left a comment about how the headline makes it seem like their drives were totally responsible and you only read about the 5.7ghz+ on ln2 when you drill down into the article. Other then that I hope it doesn't lead other companies to come do the same. Not much we can do to a) compete or b) keep them away. I imagine steve is slightly more perturbed than the rest of us. :D
Last night - I did try to up the oc to 4.95 - went all the way to 1.63vcore.
I could boot into windows @ 4.95 but I was not even close to being stable for vantage.
Cpuz was showing 1.66v which was rather alarming - perhaps due to load line calibration set to level 2 (Gigabyte's name for vdroop compensation).
Temperatures at idle were actually not bad - high 20's to low 30's.
I suspect deep subzero is needed but I may yet try an ice or a dry ice reservoir.
Don't fry your processor Steve, you'll need a cascade or LN2/DICE to compete with them.
Manufacturer's competing in "our" sport is very common these days unfortunately, just look at the rankings at hwbot.
LOL
I am still on 4th place and that is with my old 24/7 computer running on slow cpu speed :ROTF:
Edit: I am faster than Crosair on almost all HDD tests :D
I am faster than SteveRo on:
-HDD importing pictures to
-HDD gaming
-HDD application loading
:p:
http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=18
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=210815
I'm always a little suspicious that these types of benchmarks are influenced by manufacturers to take advantage of features that cannot typically be utilised in real life, which I can live with, but it seems self defeating to then compete. Maybe there should be two categories? One for end users and one for corps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Good morning all,Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
I don't want to belittle what Corsair has done, that is an amazing score they have posted. That said, even if I had ln2, I'm not sure I would want to put 1.72v through my $1K+ proc. For any of us (private party), a dead proc is somewhat more than an advertising expense.
Congrats on being the first one to break the 30K barrier SteveRo.
Now, how can you regain the #1 spot?
NIce going Stevero! Got a serious rig there!!! Those chiller look great. At my latest run I was seeing +80C on my 980x, getting jealous seeing those temps... My single stage can't hold the load of my 980, to air it is for now.
re: Corsair Results - Great job also @ Planet !! Everyone should know that this result was not truly created by Corsair, but rather by a hardcore overclocker; Planet. Nice LN2 clocking for sure!
I personally always love seeing people push boundries in PCMark Vantage. Awesome benchmark to test your overall system performance and system efficiency!
@mike
i couldnt agree more. more of the cpu overclock there than the storage array.
cmon lsi with yer fancy FastPath....im itching here!
hmm read this here.....http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18315/1/
@mike: 34k legit? if so awesome.
Edit: must be his april fools prank?
http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=18
hell no!! No pranks from my side. Enjoy Vantage waay to much and would hate to see the same things happening in Vantage as it is now in PCMark05...Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
100% hardware tweaking - no silly software ramdrives etc.
congrats mike that is a helluva run, man that just is phenomenal.
i couldnt agree more on the pcmark05 front. i used to bench that quite heavily, but really lately its a joke. thats why i switched to vantage, to much funny stuff going on in '05!
Congrats mike!
@mike: I wasn't implying, just asking! It _was_ on april 1st after all :D Pretty awesome sir.
@planet: Come ln2 my 980x ok? Thanks.
Sr-1 and 2 awesome xeons to bust through 40k? Fun stuff.
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stevero, you'r famous :).
@Onex - thanks, yes famous for getting my :):):) kicked.
@Planet, I wonder what your Crucial managers will have to say about them holding the record for only five days. Will they want you to go again?
@Mike - what did you use for storage - nice score!
yepp, this one is interesting :).Quote:
@Mike - what did you use for storage - nice score!
By uping vcore to almost 1.6v I was able to get a successful pcmv at 4.8 ht on - but it only added ~400pnts - now @ 31748 - a good distance behind Mike and Planet -
http://service.futuremark.com/search...esolution=-100
@steve: My 980x should get to me on tuesday (finally!), would you mind posting a bios template for something around 4.5ghz so I have something to work with?
thanks!
I really think you need to find yourself a single stage to do some quick runs w/.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
EVA2000 and I did baseline runs (no oc) single ssd - full PCM vantage just to make sure everything is working right. I recommend you do the same - our settings and benches are -Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=30
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=31
Then the settings that I used for 4.5 linx stable -
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=267
You may be rightQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Good morning and happy Easter to everyone,
I just ordered a single stage phase changer from sdumper.
I should hopefully have it in a couple weeks - should be able to hold -40C on the 980.
Happy Easter to you as well,
Do you have a link?
Just curious to what it looks like and at what price level we are talking about :)
You should pm sdumper about prices, also check -Quote:
Originally Posted by Anvil
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=237415
and the pic below -
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3283/58928505.jpg