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Computard SteveRo Anvil Nizzel Stevecs audienceofone
i was away from this forum for some time but this is what i was doing with
my LSI 9211i8 8xIntel x25-m's G2
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2935/lolycr.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7510/lol2g.jpg
Holy shiite!
Dynamic raid right?
Can you run vantage hdd test on dynamic raid?
Was there any special tweaking involved? (other than Win's Dyn. RAID)
Are those reads/writes/both? (maximum I/O response time suggets writes, but it's quite good maximum response time for writes)
Definitely want to know if these are reads/writes.
WOW,
This is impressive stuff Tiltevros, new drivers or firmware or what? :)
I expect a Vantage run is coming up?
edit:
@lowfat,
According to the screenshots they are both random read 4K and probably 8 workers.
1 worker LSI 9211i8 4k file size @ 1 outstanding IO/s sequential
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1...outstandin.jpg
0.02 ms latency this is hell...... belive me THIS IS HELL
512B 1queue sequential 1 worker LSI 9211
@ Anvil
here is the test setup that u gave me sometime ago.
a favor plz can u make a graf from that plz im intrested to make a comparizon list
211k IOPS! :eek2: Wow, that's impressive! Would you mind showing us an AS SSD Benchmark screenshot, please? Please don't forget the copybenchmark as well! Thanks ;)
near to the limit :D
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3951/diskmanager.jpg
Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: :eek:
Your Device Manager is confusing me, it lists two Intel storage devices as Intel X25m - what are you running here?
AS ssd benchmark
the speed and power of that is ridiculous. that is unbelievably good. this is the performance that i knew these 92xx series cards have the potential for. this is great. i really wish that i could match that performance, but i believe that the lsi cards favor the intel very much in performance and scaling. the fact that you got over the iop limits that i have seen with this card is tremendous. i am sure that the server motherboard you are using is giving you a boost with these latencies as well.,
this superior latency is the by-product of the faster 6gb/s protocol. this is something that i think that many people are underestimating about this protocol. the fact that it is just better (of course) and that it can actually enhance the performance and speed of current gen devices. awesome work keep the results coming!
i just wish i could replicate them!
An NDA is keeping me my mouth shut! :(
no this is not a dynamic disk
no this only reading random or sequential test. i have post the CVS from Anvils benchmark test in IOmeter u can see them there
i said to anvil if he has time to fix the CVS and do a graf so you can see the scale of this thing.
READ sequential 512B file size 32 outstandings IO/s
Wait.. you're essentially testing on a single X25-M????
NDA? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
I say BS ;)
@ alfaunits 8 ssd.....
@nizzen bs?????
http://www.lsi.com/news/product_news...010_03_03.html
LSI Announces Advanced Software Options for MegaRAID 6Gb/s SAS/SATA Adapters
New MegaRAID FastPath optimizer and CacheCade cache tiering software boost transactional performance of SSD configurations; new MegaRAID Recovery enables rapid data restoration capabilities
CeBIT, HANNOVER, Germany, March 3, 2010 – LSI Corporation (NYSE: LSI) today announced three advanced software options designed to greatly extend the performance and data protection capabilities of LSITM 6Gb/s SAS/SATA MegaRAID controller cards. The new MegaRAID® FastPathTM and CacheCadeTM offerings help to optimize application performance in direct-attached storage environments configured with solid-state drives (SSDs). The MegaRaid Recovery option enhances data protection through new snapshot functionality, which enables rapid file and volume-level data recovery.
"Our customers have asked us to provide advanced controller options to address specific application and market requirements," said Kelly Bryant, DAS business line executive, LSI. "These new software offerings, combined with our industry-leading MegaRAID controllers, enable end users to address key business challenges while helping to deliver a higher return on their IT investments."
LSI MegaRAID FastPath optimizer software provides high-performance I/O acceleration for SSDs connected to a 6Gb/s SAS/SATA MegaRAID controller. The technology is designed to dramatically boost transactional application throughput, delivering up to 150,000 I/Os per second (IOPS). The software supports full optimization of SSD and hard disk drive (HDD) virtual disk groups to deliver a 3X improvement in read and write IOPS compared to MegaRAID controllers not utilizing FastPath technology.
"We’ve found that MegaRAID FastPath technology enables Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 to maximize the performance of SSD storage using non-parity RAID levels," said David Powell, Director of SQL Server Performance Engineering at Microsoft. "We’re blown away by the performance results we’re seeing from LSI – up to 150,000 8KB IOPS in SQL Server benchmark testing, and easily 2X faster than comparable RAID solutions for online transaction processing (OLTP) database workloads. Any business looking for cost-effective performance and scalability should try SQL Server with MegaRAID SAS RAID controllers, LSI FastPath software and today’s high-performing solid-state disk technology."
LSI MegaRAID CacheCade cache tiering software enables SSDs to be configured as a secondary tier of cache to maximize transactional I/O performance. Utilizing SSD devices as cache can deliver up to a 50X performance improvement in read-intensive applications, such as OLTP and file and Web server workloads. The solution is designed to accelerate the I/O performance of HDD-based arrays while minimizing required investments in SSD technology.
Enhanced data protection is provided by LSI MegaRAID Recovery, which uses snapshots to enable rapid file and volume-level data recovery capabilities. Users can capture snapshots of source volume data at designated points in time and restore data from those points should accidental or malicious data loss or corruption occur. MegaRAID Recovery is designed to satisfy the growing need for more frequent restore points and reduced recovery times, providing IT organizations with new levels of data protection and business continuity.
LSI will demonstrate the new MegaRAID advanced software options in the Bell Micro booth (Hall 14, Stand K35) at the CeBIT 2010 conference, March 2-6, in Hannover, Germany.
Support for these MegaRAID advanced software options is immediately available to select OEM customers. Expected availability for channel partners is in the second quarter of this year.
About LSI
LSI Corporation (NYSE: LSI) is a leading provider of innovative silicon, systems and software technologies that enable products which seamlessly bring people, information and digital content together. The company offers a broad portfolio of capabilities and services including custom and standard product ICs, adapters, systems and software that are trusted by the world's best known brands to power leading solutions in the Storage and Networking markets. More information is available at www.lsi.com.
Editor's Notes:
All LSI news releases (financial, acquisitions, manufacturing, products, technology, etc.) are issued exclusively by PR Newswire and are immediately thereafter posted on the company's external web site, http://www.lsi.com.
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my NDA is OFF for the puch button one NDA remaining
Wow - this should be great!
So using "FastPath optimizer" - which should be faster 9260 or 9211?
Hmm, device manager shows 3 SSDs, I see 2 x 74GB volumes in disk manager and one large ~450GB volume - so what exactly are you testing on? Does 9211 have RAID0/1 support?? If not, how can you test on 8 SSDs without dynamic disks (windows RAID)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
device manager shows 2 ssds unallocated and 2 basic disks.. one basic disk is a usb drive (my backup) and the other my bootup device....
even i use dynamic disk on those 2 SSDs... the performance is no where near 250k IO/s .......
The raid configuration is set to Raid 0... WITH 6 drives....
Now if it impassible to belive it and u only belive in PCmarkVantage or only in AS SSD benchmark ok then "NUMA" is the only word that i will say
Everybody knows that pcmark has a very best friend called Cache its common secret.
but ok the time will tell. Some ppl have seen the performance through livestreaming so no problem for me for others " No hard feelings im in NDA "
I am not skeptical in any way, I am just puzzled and want to know what drives/volumes (RAID volumes) achieved what.
So we are talking 6 SSDs in RAID0 on the 9211? (I thought 9211 is a pass-through only, so just checking)
currect.
@Tiltevros
I'm a little lost on your setup as well. Numbers look great, but it's a little confusing. :shrug:
@alfaunits
The 9211 is an HBA, but it does have a controller that handles raid 0 or 1. It might not be the same as a 9260, but I still have the option within the 9211 bios to configure raid 0 or 1. I don't need to do anything within windows.
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoiler
6 ssd on 9211 @ raid0 64k stripe size drivers for windows 2008 R2
You are at the limit of your SSDs. If you had more, it would do more. Each X25-M can do 35k at the 4kb level, so 6*35 is the 210k you are seeing. 8 would be 280k ;).
for some reason ;) i let 2 ssd out of my raid0 just to see something new.
in HD tune at smart options i get average speed 635MB/s on each intel x25m ;) this is something that we have to discuss screenshots will be posting later :)
the average speed of each SSD is around 265-270 MB/s at least HD tune 4.01 and everest says.... :)
Ah, cool. All is clear now. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoiler
these results are awesome. soon we shall see the full power of the 9260-8i once they release the new software...MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is what i have been talking about when comparing it to the older gen controllers people!
this goes forward...1231 getting smaller in the rearview mirror people:)
yes, 1231 getting smaller but it will be interesting to see how enhanced 92118i and 92608i stack up against the 1880 - whenever that finally arrives.
It's great to see the power of ssd's being unleashed but I'm confused. Is this hardware or software? How can software produce these results and is there a price being paid somewhere?
It's 6 X25-Ms on 9211 as "hardware" RAID0. I was puzzled as well. See posts above.
Edit: ^ sorry I did not mean hard or soft raid I meant is software delivering the benefits from a hard array? It sounds very much like software applications and as below maybe one drive is being used for cache.
Tilt, spill the beans :)
So the drives not in the array were being used for cache?
"LSI MegaRAID CacheCade cache tiering software enables SSDs to be configured as a secondary tier of cache to maximize transactional I/O performance."
cachecade works only with mechanicals drives :)Quote:
Originally Posted by audienceofone
What do they mean by the statement I quoted then? :confused:
There are two forms of software? FastPath technology & cachecade?
from some reading i have done the cachecade is another level of cache memory created as a sort of "buffer" between a hdd array and the controller. it uses intelligent caching algorithims to use it to effectively boost performance of commonly sought out I/o. it would really only offer performance improvements on hdd arrays.
I am more interested in fastpath. that is where the speed improvements will come about for ssd arrays.
Could a software ram drive be used for the cachecade? It should speed things up even for SSDs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
It sounds like Caschecade is a sort of ASAP. (Auto-tuning SSD Accelerated Pools of storage)
Much like Adaptec's MaxIQ. Link to tomshardware
exactly^^
Awesomeness!
How much do we know about the FastPath software? (I'm sure it is windows only.) Is it something you run and leave in memory (a service) or is it some kind of optimizing software that you run periodically? (Maybe even making TRIM not needed???)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
If I'm reading the info in the press release correctly it sounds like if I buy a 9240 4i then I can attach two X25-M G2, and also my two Raptor HDD's and get "fastpath" benefit for both RAID-0 arrays at this time. So for now I can make the 2x RaptorX into a nice 300Gb Raid-0 that is fast bulk storage that will benefit from the FastPath stuff. Later I might get two more X25-M G2...
BTW: I'm considering the 9240 4i since it has a PCIe x8 for about the same price as the 9211 4i which only has the PCIe x4. I'm thinking that the 9240 is probably a 9260 without the 512Mb cache memory and with the slower 533Mhz PowerPC chip.
Another question would be if I could use most of the 2xSSD as a RAID-0 and set aside a partition on those SSD's for the Cache stuff they mentioned. That might be nice also.
9240 is a 9211 with some extra staff its not the 9260 with out cache.
9260 has RoC cpu for RAID 0,1,5,6 .
Please wait for the Public Announcement.
i have already problems with some posts.
LSI and Kinston together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOj7WXCvOzQ
9260 with 4 kinstons
For comparison - here is 1231ML-4G with 12xacard, pcie 119 - for 512B 100% sequential - looks like this combo max's out at ~ 163k iops -
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2508/31266331.png
ATTO benchmark
windows 2008 R2 check
Multipath I/O check
Process Affinity check
Pcmark Vantage pending....
did you ever get your results to post to the ORB??
no orb is down
What's up with the poor 128k writes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros