Every board with AMD 890GX are without ACC (cause SB850), AMD officialy prohibited unlock functions in BIOS. Only Asus board have this feature, little switch ...
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Every board with AMD 890GX are without ACC (cause SB850), AMD officialy prohibited unlock functions in BIOS. Only Asus board have this feature, little switch ...
http://i47.tinypic.com/j6lpat.jpg
What a fail this is. I even use ACC on my 965 to get more mhz out of it. Of course it only yeilds maybe 30 Mhz max. but seriously...
Nice to see board manufacturers like ASUS stepping in to help those who can't afford to buy nice ~$200 CPU's.
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Originally Posted by OBR
Source?
There you go again.
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Originally Posted by bingo13
I dont need anything, i am a GOD of Everything :) NDA for this needless chipset lifts is in two days, but of course i know - who care about AMD CPU/chipsets product today ... ? nobody ... :)
So why do you post about it? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
For the life of me i cant understand why OP is hammered for breaking/ignoring NDA.For once i thank him, this is xtremesystems not amdintelnvidiaapprovedopininons.org.
And yes we care :-) .Ive seen multiple comments on this forums mainly on amd stuff for "breaking" nda, the reaction should be opposite.
Thuban is 2 months away and no leaks so far, we have pretty much all info about gulftown for half a year already...
i noticed how if its s7e9h3n or somebody its no big deal & everyone asks for results etc, but when someone else does it, everyone comes outta the woodwork to tell them they are breaking nda.... :shrug:
i agree w/ rav, this is xtremesystems - if people are going to post early results / pics we should thank them instead of hate on them lol
edit: mmmmm evil post 666 ;)
Marketing shens again? Because you know Mobo manufacturers are like so cool when they allow it anyways. That means they're giving a finger to the man and are our best friends right?
It's a more than one year old news but:
AMD RD890 chipset to improve Phenom II overclocking in late Q2 2009
Glad to see motherboard manufactures step things up when CPU companies want to limit/ disable certain things.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by kow_ciller
Although, I hope AMD is going to change their mind, they will probably lose more than they hope to gain...
I see some AsRock 890GX+SB750 mobo in my magic sphere.:D
does anyone know any details about acc? maybe it could be implemented in software?
Software ECC sounds better.
ecc is completely unrelated to this thread and has to be done in hardware otherwise you lose A LOT of performance
I think Wizz won't be angry if he will get bios from mb with 890gx+sb850 :rolleyes:
maybe he could find something interesting :D
nah i dont have time for dissecting a bios .. tbh i dont even have an amd system :P if someone figures out something i'm sure willing to write whatever software is needed
c'mon Wizz :D
Sure, give me a source OBR or stuff it.
If ASUS can do this, why can't anyone else? BIOS related, I don't think so perhaps the chipset doesn't have the same ACC as before, but Nvidia managed to implement their version of ACC (NCC) in their chipset so I am sure manufacturers will find a way around this.
Also, SB710 and SB750 won't go EOL anytime soon so unlocking can still happen anyhow but I sincerely believe it will still be possible with newer chipsets.
Also why post about it if you don't care, to prove you're a more complete human being than all of us? ;)
Check this:Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
hrrrm seems to require hardware :(
AMD banned ACC core unlocking on all 7 series chipsets too. Remember a short while after people discovered core unlocking, AMD notified all board makers to release a BIOS update to disable the functionality? Then what happened? One board maker (Biostar) ignored their demands and soon every other mobo maker followed.
If Asus can do this, this means the functionality is still in the southbridge, and that means it's only a matter of time before every board maker has the functionality implemented again.
Multiple firmware modes are awesome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
I also noticed today gigabytes new updated easy tune 6 has "core boost technology" Didn't look into it much as I was using a quad at the time, but it says it enables the power of hidden cores on your cpu :clap: So the lack off acc on the GB890 reviews we have been seeing aren't a lack of capability, its just been moved to the software side :up: Cool eh!
Sounds like they simply removed ACC. Since it isn't really all that useful for cores 800-series chipsets are for, it makes sense to drop it as an unneeded legacy feature. Saying AMD is removing it for the sake of disabling the core unlocking hobby is painting motive where we don't yet have cause to make such accusations.
if i get it right, if you don't link the 7 pins from southbridge to the Socket, there's no way to activate ACC after...
Gonna ask some sources about that ^^
true, but. amd would make more money if ppl bought quads as opposed to x3's or x2'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Particle
sadly people think that ASUS has pulled this out of the thin air with just a magic flip of the switch!Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Can someone explain to me how did Obermeister regain such credibility so that everyone unquestionable believe him?? :shrug:
He didn't. His history shows empirical lying for the purposes of gaining atention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Any time he gained a legit source of information, he would whore out on it as much as he could. Regardless of the subject matter.
You can see this by his second post in this thread. First by proclaiming himself as god and secondly by stating no one should care about AMD's chipsets ...after creating the thread on the subject.
The boy is a troll and a child.
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Originally Posted by OBR
More like a goddess of nothing :down:
Lets rephrase that, AMD removed ACC.......as it was never needed with nor designed to work with phenom II as i stated many times over.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Yep that little switch is the only way you can unlock cores :rolleyes:
so this was the reason you were still on my ignore list. still trying to appear clever by pretending you know something that we don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
BS for AMD. What happens if the boardmakers ignore AMD? Stop selling chips to them?
Won't this make AMD lose more money on the other hand?
Hahahahah....good to see an onboard switch like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Maybe we can see core temps correctly in everest after unlocking cores with this switch :D
Hasn't it always been like this? Intel/AMD gives guidelines and board vendors figure out stuff on their own. tRD, RTL, B2B, QPI multipliers ... the list is sooo long.
you forgot one MRL :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
I can already do this with my MSI 790FX-GD70 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Royalk
ASUS Use Turbo EVO unlocker coreQuote:
Originally Posted by Exeodus
"No, there is another";) :lsfight:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
It was total sarcasm ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
AMD didn't ban anything, all they did was get rid of ACC support which Ph II never really supported anyway.
Really what unlocks chips is old microcode, I implore anyone to try this, run 1m with out unlock then unlock and run 1m.
You will see its slower unlocked by about 2/10ths of a second, why because you are using older cpu microcode.
ACC was just the way it was implemented before but does not mean it can't be applied without acc.
Are you sure, the 890GX Gigabyte board says its supports ACC, and so does the MSI 890FX-GD70
No ACC on Gigabyte 890GPA with F2 and F3 bioses
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Originally Posted by Dumo
Features 128MB DDR3 1333 sideport memory support, ACC support
Took right from newegg
No ACC = no buy from many enthusiasts hoping to get an unlucky unlock, like me :) (555 unlocked)
AMD Official Response to Core Unlocking &
ASUS Unlock Switch
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-----"That feature is not supported by AMD"-------
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I framed it just to make it look more official.
but, sometimes, its nice bonus for users :)
Thank God for Asrock, nice and easy... :clap:
From Fudzilla:
Cebit 2010: The UCC chip simplifies the process
ASRock, the more affordable face of Asus has prepared a nice treat that will surely prove to be a hit with those that are running on tighter budgets. The treat comes under the name UCC chip – an acronym for Unlock CPU Core and, as the name suggests, it is used to turn your AMD triple core CPUs into full fledged quad cores saving you some nice cash in the process.
The guys have been kind enough to show us the procedure, which is extremely simple, thanks to the UCC chip. All you have to do is enter BIOS upon booting your computer and hit enter on one of the options, and you’ve got yourself a quad.
We’ve been told that this chip will find its way to entry level boards as well, which means you can get a decent quad core setup for much less money. Furthermore, the chip reportedly runs just fine with Nvidia chipsets and the N68-S3 board you see will soon get a version with a –UCC moniker which will naturally come with the UCC chip.
We've taken a few shots showing the "triple core" happily running with four cores. The motherboard in question is based on AMD's latest offering, 890GX chipset and the CPU is Phenom II X3 720.
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...asrock_ucc.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...srock_uccd.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...srock_ucce.jpg
Checked Asrock motherboard. it looks even better than Asus GX :) maybe direct competitor to Biostar :p
Why AMD hide acc function in new SB?????
i remember last year they says core & cache unlocking is user benefit!!!!
Why are y'all griping about losing something you got for free? If this core unlock removal is true, are you really going to NOT buy AMD cpus?
What? Enthusiast with a $100 CPU? You have to be kidding me...I had a tight budget and I still went and got a 965BE with slightly cheaper board. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula7
Things i've learned about ASRock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
There boards are often $30 cheaper than a competitor board, and often has more features.
There boards are rock solid and have a decent BIOS for overclocking
There boards are good all togeather.
I have owned a X58 ASrock board and run off a ASrock N68-S board in my mini gaming computer and neither one ever gave me problems.
I would buy ASrock again.
hehe :up: It sure does look great :p: and I can hardly wait to have them and continue to unlock 555's with them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
http://www.ocworkbench.com/wp/wp-con...20420-copy.jpg
Some closer pictures for 890GX EXTREME3...
It has POWER/RESET/CLEAR CMOS switches and DEBUG PANEL
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...srock890gx.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...rock890gxb.jpg
And it appears that Asrock will have a 90-100$ 890GX board to..:up:
890GMH/ USB3 (it has SATA3 to, despite the name...)
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...ck890gx_ii.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...k890gx_iib.jpg
That ASRock GX Extreme3 board looks like a REALLY good all in one motherboard.
Onboard -> HTPC output
PCIe x16.1 -> Folding GPU
PCIe x16.2 -> Folding GPU
PCIe x16.3 -> Perc 5/i
:)
Now we just need slot speeds. Has anybody seen how the 890GX has its PCIe lanes broken down?
x8/x8/x4, the board supports 3-way Crossfire, so either the 3rd card runs at x4 or they put a bridge chip on the board for x8/x8/x8Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077
This is the board I plan to grab, it better hit newegg soon.
...what! no more IDE's lol :D
funny to have AMD ban the unlocker ..... what's the point? are they coming out 5-core CPU as opposed to the 6-core original design?
or is there's more hidden cores in that 6-core Thuban? intriguing...
I think it is because of the Zosma (960T). Will run at 3.3GHz and have 4 cores. Figure it is the Thuban with 2 cores locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpentarius
ohh i see. wow that's interesting. so that's the reason they go lengths to ban the unlocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagg Master
Oh , that sucks!! I was diggin that board till I noticed it when you said that =PQuote:
Originally Posted by duron
I still have 2 ODD's that are IDE lol!!
Guy's going on and using the term banning are incorrect, ACC was devised for PH I.
It was not needed nor technically supported by phenom II all though it caused interesting anomallies.
AMD dropped it due to no longer needing ACC.
What did ACC do on Phenom 1. Allowed users to gain 200-300 mhz more headroom.
Phenom II?
Surely no mhz gains however they continued to offer it on 790 to support the PH I users still out there.
Nothing really save the odd case of someone reporting some bench ran faster with it on but nothing that could not be discarded as a variable in any bench.
Last was the not so uncommon unlock of a chip, which was locked for a reason most likely 90% of the time.
Well I can see why AMD is doing this. They are trying to protect the up-coming 6 core chips. I still hope to see this as a feature with popular tier 1 manufactures.
Hasn't one of the boards manufacturers got there own version of ACC, as UCC?
ASRock are trying to step-up their profile. Their boards have come a long way. One thing they need to change is their base warranty period though, the $30 or so you save gets you a one year warranty vs 3 years from ASUS and GB. Of course, warranty claim costs can end up being 50% of product value on lower budget boards, but it does not hurt to be competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222
If only eh :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpentarius
Imagine, you buy a hexa-core to find it has another two locked cores :shocked:
Octo-core love :up: