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Launch Dates of AMD 8 Series Chipsets
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and i just ordered a brand new 785G board...
can't wait to see some proper micro-atx boards base on 890GX and 890FX; the only fully featured 7series microatx board so far is the jwele 785GMT extreme; i hope that this changes with the new chipsets :)
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Nice! Too bad my X3 720 is enough for me :p
And my bad spending habit days are over...time to focus on my health :| JUST in time for X2 555's to come in stock where I work.
/me waits for the new chipsets to see how much they have improved.
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Originally Posted by
breakfromyou
Nice! Too bad my X3 720 is enough for me :p
And my bad spending habit days are over...time to focus on my health :| JUST in time for X2 555's to come in stock where I work.
/me waits for the new chipsets to see how much they have improved.
hopefully current AM3 chipset could support BullDozer
you need BullDozer
I've 720BE too. unlocked into quad core
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Good! Since I'll be buying a 785G for an HTPC, I might as well wait till 880G arrives. I hope it'll be cheap.:yepp:
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4290..
Is it a RV610 again or something like a RV710?
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So should the 890 boards be coming out within the first week of march or so? I just ordered my crosshair iii, but I'll send it back if I only have to wait a week or two for an 890 board
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Look at those dates closely and you may even find the launch date for Thuban Six core chips :D
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Good, I was hoping to update my HTPC with a new board, I would love to get 4xxx class video. Can't wait to hit Frys once the boards are out.
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I need a good review with SB850 + Micron RealSSD raid 0 :sofa:
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Originally Posted by
Gilgamesh
I need a good review with SB850 + Micron RealSSD raid 0 :sofa:
Yeah RAID and sata controllers on par with Intel would be nice.
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Looking forward to the release of this. :D
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Originally Posted by
JF-AMD
Good, I was hoping to update my HTPC with a new board, I would love to get 4xxx class video. Can't wait to hit Frys once the boards are out.
Cant you get the board now, i mean you work for AMD you can have samples if i am not mistaken.... may have them already
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Originally Posted by
labs23
Good! Since I'll be buying a 785G for an HTPC, I might as well wait till 880G arrives. I hope it'll be cheap.:yepp:
New dosent go along with cheap.
At least not what youre hoping for compared to 785G price levels. ;)
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it would be so nice if nVidia would just give up and let AMD chipsets do SLI like the Intel P55/X58
doesn't matter cause my next card will be 5850/5870 depending unless nVidia really shows something in March
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Any chance of a sneak preview? :D
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Was looking around for some upgrades for my HTPC which os overdue for Bluray
this will fit nicely
Gief!!1
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Originally Posted by
AmDChick
Any chance of a sneak preview? :D
CLICK
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Originally Posted by
ajaidev
Cant you get the board now, i mean you work for AMD you can have samples if i am not mistaken.... may have them already
because hes really trying to tell us all where and when he will be so we can get a intel posse with pitchforks and torches to go set him strait.
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Originally Posted by
ajaidev
Cant you get the board now, i mean you work for AMD you can have samples if i am not mistaken.... may have them already
I work for AMD, we don't make boards. And, I am not hooked into the client side. I'm sure I could go hit some connections up to try to get a free board, but I don't mind supporting our board partners.
However, I won't be buying any CPUs ;)
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Originally Posted by
JF-AMD
I work for AMD, we don't make boards. And, I am not hooked into the client side. I'm sure I could go hit some connections up to try to get a free board, but I don't mind supporting our board partners.
However, I won't be buying any CPUs ;)
Well on that note what's the cpu compatibility for thuban? trying to decide what video card I'm moving to; is there any support at all on the nvidia AM2+ chipsets?
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Originally Posted by
Lokinhow
4290..
Is it a RV610 again or something like a RV710?
Should be RV7xx, definitely.
These chipsets look nice. I'd love to see some boards using these, though, hope there will be some exciting solutions! :D
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Will Thuban require dual power plane motherboards or will they work on single plane boards.:D
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Im waiting for Gigabyte 890FX :)
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That ECS Doesn't look bad.
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If ECS makes another 160 watt board based on 890X/GX I'll try one,last time I had a ECS I had a DURAN 800.
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Originally Posted by
Hell Hound
If ECS makes another 160 watt board based on 890X/GX I'll try one,last time I had a ECS I had a DURAN 800.
Did it sing Hungry Like the Wolf for you?
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Originally Posted by
JF-AMD
I work for AMD, we don't make boards. And, I am not hooked into the client side. I'm sure I could go hit some connections up to try to get a free board, but I don't mind supporting our board partners.
However, I won't be buying any CPUs ;)
I will overcompensate for that :up:
I'm not HP or DeLL but few more CPU's sold is nothing bad is it?
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You got me I cant edit now huh.:rofl:
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why does AMD always release the integrated graphics(lower end) ones first?like when they released 790GX and then the 790FX Enthusiast boards later?
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Originally Posted by
radaja
why does AMD always release the integrated graphics(lower end) ones first?like when they released 790GX and then the 790FX Enthusiast boards later?
It's about what's ready first.
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i dont really see the benefit of getting this board(890gx) over current 790gx, or 785g unless you have a SSD or planning on getting a SSD for usb3.0/sata3
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Dual x2 support,3X pci-e slots,onboard HD 4300,display port,and DDR3 1800 support thats not too bad.;)
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Originally Posted by
EnJoY
It's about what's ready first.
then why dont they just get the 890FX ready first,instead of making the enthusiast's wait:D
seriously though is it harder to make the fx version than the integrated graphics version(tweaks to the chip and what not)?
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So, if im not mistaken, the 8series should support IOMMU right ?
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Nice HTPC mobo :) finally ps2 is history :clap:
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Originally Posted by
dreamdx
So, if im not mistaken, the 8series should support IOMMU right ?
Probably...
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Originally Posted by
radaja
then why dont they just get the 890FX ready first,instead of making the enthusiast's wait:D
seriously though is it harder to make the fx version than the integrated graphics version(tweaks to the chip and what not)?
So.... They (AMd) have a product ready (890gx), but they should not release it because another product (890fx) is not ready.
Where the logic here ? :shrug:
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Will the x6's work on the 790fx chipsets (my crosshair iii formula)? Or will they only be supported by 890 (or is it a manufacturer decision; as in its possible with a bios update?)
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So that means that Thuban will be near. Good going.
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Originally Posted by
Hell Hound
Dual x2 support,3X pci-e slots,onboard HD 4300,display port,and DDR3 1800 support thats not too bad.;)
ah true didnt see the displayport, hopefully its priced right :-)
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Originally Posted by
SocketMan
So.... They (AMd) have a product ready (890gx), but they should not release it because another product (890fx) is not ready.
Where the logic here ? :shrug:
thats not what i said or asked.so where the logic there?
im asking why is the GX always released first?is it easier to make?
isnt it almost the same as the FX chipset with out the integratedGFX?just trying to understand what the difference is and why they follow this release
schedule each time?understand?im not saying that they are holding back
products because another isnt ready,ok?
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hmm should i upgrade from a 790X...tempting this is
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just in time for my next build... finally .... go go go amd :D hopefully those 8 cores desktop amd cpu will fit nicelly in my budget
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Originally Posted by
n!Cola
Nice HTCP mobo :) finally ps2 is history :clap:
Finally? Man, I have PS/2 or Serial only mouses at home :)
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Originally Posted by
n!Cola
Nice HTCP mobo :) finally ps2 is history :clap:
You say that as though it's a good thing.
BB NKRO:(
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Well for HTPC no use for ps/2, ps/2 is only good for pro gamers or such, time to move on.
More space for video connection is good IMO.
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Should I take back this 790GX hhhmmm.:shrug:
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Originally Posted by
onethreehill
That's a good looking board alright.
I really like the colour scheme.
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Originally Posted by
Hell Hound
Should I take back this 790GX hhhmmm.:shrug:
Depends on if you're going to use the new features or not. Probably no point.
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Originally Posted by
n!Cola
Nice HTPC mobo :) finally ps2 is history :clap:
what about those users who have kvm switch based on those connectors ??? :)
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Originally Posted by
radaja
why does AMD always release the integrated graphics(lower end) ones first?like when they released 790GX and then the 790FX Enthusiast boards later?
Wrong.
790FX came nine months before GX, on the same day the first Phenom 65 nm (translation lookaside buffer flaw enabled stepping B2) was released back in 2007.
It's even made in 65 nm, while GX is 55 nm.
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The 790FX, 790X and 770 chipsets were launched on November 19, 2007
The 780G chipset was released worldwide on March 5, 2008 during CeBIT 2008 [8],
The 790GX chipset was released on August 6, 2008.
The 785G was announced on August 4, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series
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Originally Posted by
tbone8ty
i dont really see the benefit of getting this board(890gx) over current 790gx, or 785g unless you have a SSD or planning on getting a SSD for usb3.0/sata3
I hear ya.
Great to see the SB getting updated, but the NB seems more like a dumb shrink than a must have.
And I guess these boards won't even be AM3r2, meaning they don't really have any benefit over the current AM3 boards when BD launches,
EXCEPT for the annoying fact that 800 boards will be blessed with more and better BIOS updates for Bulldozer from the BIOS making gods..
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Originally Posted by
Hell Hound
Dual x2 support,3X pci-e slots,onboard HD 4300,display port,and DDR3 1800 support thats not too bad.;)
DUAL x2 support? As in running two dual GPU cards on a GX (2x8)?:rofl::wierd:
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Originally Posted by
Mats
Wrong.
790FX came nine months before GX, on the same day the first Phenom 65 nm (translation lookaside buffer flaw enabled stepping B2) was released back in 2007.
It's even made in 65 nm, while GX is 55 nm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series
ok i guess im refering to the 785g and 790x boards,and then the 790FX's were released,correct?
is that what they are doing now too.but i still want to know why.is there a reason other than
the 890fx isnt ready.if its not ready than why is the made after 885G,if there is an 885g.
does it have to do with the SB?
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If you read my quote you'll see that 790FX, 790X and 770 came first, and all the others later on. ;)
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was there an 780g board?maybe thats what im thinkng of.i seem to remember when they released the the updated
SB-750(i think) and everyone was excited for it and the 785g came with it and then the 790fx after.maybe im confused
also i think i dont understand,is the 785 different than the 790?right.they both use the 750SB?
im pretty sure im thinking of the SB750 refresh.because i remember everyone using the 790GX boards with the 750SB(ACC)
and always posting that they cant wait for the 790FX boards for some extreme OCing.sorry about the confusion.
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I love those Biostar boards! They look great and will be definitely very good priced. Biostar rules mainboard world for me.
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Yeah the 780G was released after the FX, the 785 is just an update, while the 790GX is a bit better with its 2x8 slots.
The newer southbridges have caused more attention than the northbridges, You needed SB750 to unlock cores/cache, but it was only used on more expensive boards.
Then came the cheaper SB710 together with 785G that could do the same.
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yep,i guess thats what i was thinking of.motheboard makers and the release of the 790GX w/750SB
and then the release of the 790FX w/750SB.not literally the 790FX chipset release but the MB refresh
with the new SB.they did this with the SB600 and SB700 too(motherboard makers)right
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Original SB600 had slow USB, that's the reason lower end boards equiped with SB700 had much better sales. The 790FX was not worth the money wuth buggy southbridge. Most poeple bought 780G but used dedicated graphics anyway.
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Originally Posted by
StevaMan
what about those users who have kvm switch based on those connectors ??? :)
Well this is only one mobo layout, good for HTPC and i like it.
But i hear you, kvm switch i use all the time at work (have 4 servers hooked on it plus this rat )
And there are usb kvms so no biggy..
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Originally Posted by
onethreehill
So after all no DX11 and no graphic performance improvement. I wonder if it can stream TrueHD audio through HDMI.
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Originally Posted by
kl0012
So after all no DX11 and no graphic performance improvement. I wonder if it can stream TrueHD audio through HDMI.
I don't think 890FX has an integrated GPU, but the 890GX does.
Anyways, will this thing support SLI?
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Originally Posted by
lkiller123
I don't think 890FX has an integrated GPU, but the 890GX does.
The link above points to another review (890GX):
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...IIuDV1JRnkB3ew
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Oh, my bad :)
I believe that they will support USB3.0, SATA 6GB/s, and possibly Thuban.
I HOPE that it gives out better graphics performance, though.
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http://translate.google.com/translat....google.com.sg
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but the speed burst rate and seek time we see the SB850 native performance advantages over Marvell 88E9123 chip.... Find Road time to improve by 7%, and the burst rate increased by 20%. Thus, we can foresee in the near future, SATA 6Gbps specification of solid-state drives in native SATA 6Gbps of the motherboard on the shine.
hmm interesting...
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im still trying to find out why AMD or MB makers do this
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AMD will officially launch its 890GX chipset in early March
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AMD will launch 890FX and 880G chipsets in late April
why the 890gx gets released before the 890fx,other than one being ready
before the other,if this is the case.i dont get why.they both have the new
SB850 and the gx has integrated graphics,so wouldnt it be easier to launch
the 790fx first.or is there something more complicated in making the 790fx?
very sorry if im annoying people but im just trying understand why they
make the enthusiast wait a month.because i know enthusiast will buy the gx
to hold them over till the fx comes out.is this the reason maybe?if they release
the fx first at the same time,sales of the gx will drop?
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Originally Posted by
radaja
im still trying to find out why AMD or MB makers do this
why the 890gx gets released before the 890fx,other than one being ready
before the other,if this is the case.i dont get why.they both have the new
SB850 and the gx has integrated graphics,so wouldnt it be easier to launch
the 790fx first.or is there something more complicated in making the 790fx?
very sorry if im annoying people but im just trying understand why they
make the enthusiast wait a month.because i know enthusiast will buy the gx
to hold them over till the fx comes out.is this the reason maybe?if they release
the fx first at the same time,sales of the gx will drop?
the gx will be more of a bang for buck board. the fx is the most decked out board. a lot of the fx boards will probably have more than two 16x pci-e slots. they will have more features. they will be decked out. if you talk to custom pc manufacturers they will tell you that they have a decent amount of high end motherboards go bad before they even send out the pc to the person that ordered it. Why? because the more features you add to a motherboard the more things that can go wrong with it. so knowing this its easy to know that they probably want to make sure everything is ready before they let the motherboard companies manufacture and sell them.
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Originally Posted by
radaja
im still trying to find out why AMD or MB makers do this
why the 890gx gets released before the 890fx,other than one being ready
before the other,if this is the case.i dont get why.they both have the new
SB850 and the gx has integrated graphics,so wouldnt it be easier to launch
the 790fx first.or is there something more complicated in making the 790fx?
very sorry if im annoying people but im just trying understand why they
make the enthusiast wait a month.because i know enthusiast will buy the gx
to hold them over till the fx comes out.is this the reason maybe?if they release
the fx first at the same time,sales of the gx will drop?
Well , i would think The GX is out first because on the new intel IGP , 890GX should offer some HTPC features ,that are currently not found on 790 .
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these mATX boards need more sata ports...
i need at least 7 before i ditch my brand new jwele 785G (i have 7 drives in my V350)
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Well, is there real difference between FX and GX? I mean you culd just disable IGP and have the FX, couldn't you?
You can even try to turn on SurroundView if they still have it in BIOS and try to have 4 displays...I succesfully used this with my 780G+HD 3870, half year before any mention about Eyefinity :p: (well, there were some driver issues with some Catalyst versions and I never tried any game with this, but it could be just matter of settings as multiple display gaming was possible before Eyefinity, only more complicated).
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Originally Posted by
Behemot
Well, is there real difference between FX and GX? I mean you culd just disable IGP and have the FX, couldn't you?
You can even try to turn on SurroundView if they still have it in BIOS and try to have 4 displays...I succesfully used this with my 780G+HD 3870, half year before any mention about Eyefinity :p: (well, there were some driver issues with some Catalyst versions and I never tried any game with this, but it could be just matter of settings as multiple display gaming was possible before Eyefinity, only more complicated).
I think the major difference is about pci-e lines, FX can crossfire 2 video cards with both running at 16x, or 3 video cards runing at 16x/8x/8x or 4 video cards runing at 8x/8x/8x/8x. GX can crossfire 2 video cards with both at 8x, nothing more.
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..and BIOS, FX are the best for tweaking and extreme cooling
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Originally Posted by
Lokinhow
I think the major difference is about pci-e lines, FX can crossfire 2 video cards with both running at 16x, or 3 video cards runing at 16x/8x/8x or 4 video cards runing at 8x/8x/8x/8x. GX can crossfire 2 video cards with both at 8x, nothing more.
also FX is always ATX,the GX can be both (mATX or ATX)
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Originally Posted by
FlanK3r
..and BIOS, FX are the best for tweaking and extreme cooling
Unless it's my DFI boards:the 790gx (jr m2rs) has better options then the FX (790 M2R UT)
To be fare the latter is SB600 or "vintage fx".
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How the heck did they not fix the 8 channel audio????? :(
They are going to lost the HTPC market to intel sadly.
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I'm not sure about these release dates, Newegg listed a 890GX board and its now listed as unavailable. Usually when that happens the item officially goes on sale about 5 days later.
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ECS launches A890GXM-AU, A890GXM-A and IC890GXM-A 890GX MBs
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/mai...uID=13&LanID=0
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Originally Posted by
M3T4LM4N222
I'm not sure about these release dates, Newegg listed a 890GX board and its now listed as unavailable. Usually when that happens the item officially goes on sale about 5 days later.
NDA for AMD 890 Chipset lifts on March 2
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Hexus.net took the review down :-(
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MSI 890FXA-GD70
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...MSI890-big.jpg
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Here's a case in point. The MSI 890FXA-GD70 is based on AMD's upcoming premier consumer chipset known as 890FX. Continuing on from the 790FX as the enthusiast-orientated core-logic, it packs in a new southbridge with integrated SATA 6Gbps, as well as supporting the soon-to-be-released six-core Phenom II chip that's currently known as Thuban.
The GD70 packs in a healthy dollop of features, including five mechanical x16 PCIe, a single PCIe x1 and a conventional PCI slot. MSI throws in its DrMOS, OC Genie, and APS technologies, too.
We expect it to be priced at around £140 when launched in a couple of weeks' time. The logic improvements are minor over the incumbent, but six-core Thuban and 890FX will provide an interesting alternative to Intel's Core i7/LGA1156/1366 platforms. Tempted?
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22661
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Here's a case in point. The MSI 890FXA-GD70 is based on AMD's upcoming premier consumer chipset known as 890FX. Continuing on from the 790FX as the enthusiast-orientated core-logic, it packs in a new southbridge with integrated SATA 6Gbps, as well as supporting the soon-to-be-released six-core Phenom II chip that's currently known as Thuban.
The GD70 packs in a healthy dollop of features, including five mechanical x16 PCIe, a single PCIe x1 and a conventional PCI slot. MSI throws in its DrMOS, OC Genie, and APS technologies, too.
We expect it to be priced at around £140 when launched in a couple of weeks' time. The logic improvements are minor over the incumbent, but six-core Thuban and 890FX will provide an interesting alternative to Intel's Core i7/LGA1156/1366 platforms. Tempted?
Pure win.
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Whats Thubans pricing expected to be?
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Originally Posted by
onethreehill
MSI 890FXA-GD70
wow, £140, veery nice :clap:
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There's some pics of the amazing Asus ROG Crosshair IV Formula & Crosshair IV Extreme board in the other 890 chipset thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=245146&page=5
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Originally Posted by
onethreehill
Switch card on the ASUS kills it for me.
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Think that Giga 890GX is really done too fast.
Evry time Giga is delivring the mobo the first but far from the best one.
Drmos is one of the error of this motheboard. Whatch the radiator. The airflow is coming frome right to left with the airflow of the processor and the airflow of the whole rig.
This is stupid to have the Drmos radiator in this side ? ...
and Quad crossfire is the actually impossible to use. Only single slot for most of them. I got a crossfire with the 3870. And i don't like multi gpu, micoshuttering is real. Why use 4 low power GPUs ?
Not usefull. And how is set the PCI-E links ? By AMD it's said to be 2*8 PCI-E 2.0. It's gonna very very limited by pci-e. & I can add this is not the only one error made.
This motherboard is just amazing for the stupidity of the design.
I hope some other guys will do better. Hope to see the FX one fast too.
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Originally Posted by
madcho
Think that Giga 890GX is really done too fast.
Evry time Giga is delivring the mobo the first but far from the best one.
Drmos is one of the error of this motheboard. Whatch the radiator. The airflow is coming frome right to left with the airflow of the processor and the airflow of the whole rig.
This is stupid to have the Drmos radiator in this side ? ...
and Quad crossfire is the actually impossible to use. Only single slot for most of them. I got a crossfire with the 3870. And i don't like multi gpu, micoshuttering is real. Why use 4 low power GPUs ?
Not usefull. And how is set the PCI-E links ? By AMD it's said to be 2*8 PCI-E 2.0. It's gonna very very limited by pci-e. & I can add this is not the only one error made.
This motherboard is just amazing for the stupidity of the design.
I hope some other guys will do better. Hope to see the FX one fast too.
What are you talking about???
Gigabyte has no DRMOS but MSI has.
Why again is 2x PCIe2.0 with 8 lanes each not enough? Remember the high end i975 chipset had 2x PCIe 1.0 with 8 lanes = half the bandwidth.
And which 890GX board has 4x PCIe slots for graphics cards to realise this quad crossfire you are takling about?
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