ATI releases its own line of GDDR memory!

...and nvidia seems to be its first customer?

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3742&p=2

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7587/hahahlv.jpg

heheheh, just kidding, its a 40nm nvidia GT210 card from msi, so nvidia has nothing to do with it... and i guess ati just got some mem from samsung or hynix branded with their logo and sold it to their partners. both nvidia and ati tend to do this, buy large batches of gddr to get a discount and then sell them to their partners together with their gpus to help their partners out and allow them to offer lower priced cards. anyways, i dont think they intended msi or any of their other partners to use it on nvidia cards though ;)

hahahahaha^

MSI overclockable... ATi VMEM :D

killer gddr :D

That's freaking ownage :ROTF:. I wonder how Nvidia feels about that?

The PCB should be half red half green..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1258004677 :D

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Originally Posted by zalbard

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1258004677 :D

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i guess he couldn't wait until monday :ROTF:

I'd pick one of those up "for teh lulz"

I'd frame it, naked, with the die cleaned :D :p:

OMG! :ROTF:

This is hilarious :up:

haha ati mem for nvidia gpu... good to see them "co-operating"

hmmmm anandtech removed the pictures?
did anybody else notice that? :D

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hmmmm anandtech removed the pictures?
did anybody else notice that? :D

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nop!

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3742&p=1

:rofl: Next we'll see Socket AM3 i7s :ROTF:

They believe in ANTI-MISCEGENATION Laws at Nvidia

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...210/MSI210.jpg
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-110.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...10/ATIchip.jpg
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-149.jpg
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-151.jpg
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-156.jpg
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-157.jpghttp://apcmag.com/site/wp-content/up...-Huang-350.gif
http://www.morethings.com/fan/o_brot...rdoned-166.jpg

(Go watch O Brother Where Art Thou if this post is lost on you)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIKz1...eature=related

great movie

:rofl:

Bottled awesomeness.

MSI in a tight spot!

too funny! :D

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nop!

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3742&p=1

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they were done yesterday... i tried it on 2 different pcs... weird... :D

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they were done yesterday... i tried it on 2 different pcs... weird... :D

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I didn't saw it too the first time I went to Anand!
So don't worry it's not only you :D

so this is the great announcement of monday; Thank you Sascha, you gave us the details early!

Some better pictures here:

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/mie...brana_skos.jpg

Close up:

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/mie.../EPIC_FAIL.jpg

:clap:

Now, time for some whatifs.

What if agreement, when amd sells those memory chips to card manufacturers, there is line that denies use of those chips in competitor cards.

Now there would have been inadvequate supply of memory permitted to use on nVidia cards.

Manufacturer has chosen to risk and use those bought from ati on nVidia boards (maybe they have big oem order inside).

What would happen?

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I didn't saw it too the first time I went to Anand!
So don't worry it's not only you :D

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so they DID take it down... :D
but why? and why did they put it back up after a day? weird...
maybe they didnt want to cause msi any trouble :D

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Originally Posted by Mechanical Man

Now, time for some whatifs.
What if agreement, when amd sells those memory chips to card manufacturers, there is line that denies use of those chips in competitor cards.

Now there would have been inadvequate supply of memory permitted to use on nVidia cards.

Manufacturer has chosen to risk and use those bought from ati on nVidia boards (maybe they have big oem order inside).
What would happen?

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not much, i guess a conf call, maybe a visit of reps, some serious faces and :nono: but i dont think there would be lawsuits or punishments...
i think ati is probably laughing about this, if anything, msi risks pissng off nvidia :D

AMD wouldn't care if those memory chips are used for intel or nVidia GPU's or any other brand. In fact before intel's Pentium II CPU you had 1 socket (mainboard and chipset) for any x86 CPU.
If you want to design a cpu for AM3, or whatever AMD socket, you can do that without a problem. To be even more accurate, if nVidia really did design a CPU it will most probably be a AMD socket CPU.
Hypertransport for example can be used by anyone who'd like to use it. So I don't think AMD would tell manufactures where they can and can't use those memory chips. And besides, I've had enough mainboards for AMD cpu with intel branded chips on it. So I don't get the big deal here.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIKz1...eature=related

great movie

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clicking the link turned into two hours of youtube watching :rolleyes: at least its subday LOL :up:

huhu...amdia

This is hilarious! LMAO

Now, this is funny...:)

If I were ATI, I'd feel insulted...maybe ATI should incorporate a hardware check of the GPU into their memory and refuse to work with non-ATI GPUs...:D

But the attitude of such a move would be too NVidia-esque...something that we could use less of.;)

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1258004677 :D

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:rofl: ok that almost killed me :rofl:

somebody confirmed to me that ati indeed bought a large batch of these memory chips to get a discount and then sold it to their partners.
they do this to help their partners, and as such, they dont mind what their partners do with the chips, at all...
pretty cool how relaxed ati is about this :up:

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Originally Posted by saaya

somebody confirmed to me that ati indeed bought a large batch of these memory chips to get a discount and then sold it to their partners.
they do this to help their partners, and as such, they dont mind what their partners do with the chips, at all...
pretty cool how relaxed ati is about this :up:

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This is why I admire ATI as a company...their attitude is 180° different from NVidia. They are relaxed and understand that helping the industry and end users is in their best interest and ensures their long-term success, instead of looking for new and creative ways to screw them, as NVidia does. ATI recognizes that their open and relaxed attitude fosters amity, instead of animosity. NVidia feels that the industry is there to serve them and the end user should feel privileged to be their customer. This attitude is persistent and deeply entrenched at NVidia, and will lead to NVidia's downfall if an about face isn't performed very soon;)

So if they now produce their own GDDR, when will i be able to buy ATI branded DDR3 sticks? That would be sick!

We had news about this 3 weeks ago ... http://lab501.ro/stiri/memorie-ati-langa-un-gpu-nvidia

The memory is intended for the low end ATI parts such as HD 5450 but not exclusively, so MSI used them for the GT 210 as well. The ATI 23BY2387SA02 are DDR2 chips rated at 800Mhz.

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So if they now produce their own GDDR, when will i be able to buy ATI branded DDR3 sticks? That would be sick!

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They don't produce their own GDDR, they just've just bought a huge number of chips and marked them as ATI-made. :)
Only a few of their chosen partners who assemble and sell graphics cards got these. Besides, GDDR is different from DDR! :up:

yeah but cheap cards use ddr2 and ddr3 and not gddr afaik... im not sure, but these might actually be DDR2 and not GDDR2, in that case, somebody could actually make some really weird memory sticks out of this :lol:
i wonder if they are decent chips... i guess they are cheap cr4p tho seing as they are used for entry level vgas... :P