AMD readies three new Phenoms: 820, 975BE and 910e

Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/

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Back in September we reported that AMD was planning to launch a new Phenom II, the 975 Black Edition. The new CPU is almost here, as some regional distributors are already listing it.

Unfortunately we still don't know the price, but we have its spec and it's impressive. Clocked at 3.6GHz, the 975 is AMD's fastest Phenom to date and it will ship with an unlocked multiplier. It has 4 x 512kB of L2 cache and 6MB of shared L3 cache. The only downside is its thermonuclear TDP, rated at 140W.

However, consumers looking for something greener and cooler can look forward to the Phenom II X4 910e. It's clocked at 2.6GHz, has 2MB of L2 and 6MB of L3 cache, but it's TDP is a rather modest 65W.

Halfway in between AMD will launch the Phenom II X4 820. It's clocked at 2.8GHz, has a 95W TDP, 2MB of L2 and 4MB of L3 cache. It is probably the most sensible of the three, but 3.6GHz just sounds better.

The new CPUs should launch pretty soon, but we're still far from sure about the launch date or pricing. Expect prices to be similar the CPUs they are replacing, the 965, 905e and 810.

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Hope 975 clocks better than 955 since 965 didn't make much of a jump! :D

"The new CPUs should launch pretty soon, but we're still far from sure about the launch date or pricing. Expect prices to be similar the CPUs they are replacing, the 965, 905e and 810"

heh! In other words this pure speculation!

The 975 sounds nice, but its a shame that it once again has the 140W TDP, but I rather see AMD focus on creating a CPU that does not require such high power usage, but hey, if it works everybody wins.

Apart from the 975 the others and few new Propus cpus will launch on the 25th in Japan.

・Athlon II X4 635(2.9GHz,L2 512KBx4,TDP95W) 12,500Y
・Athlon II X3 440(3.0GHz,L2 512KBx3,TDP95W) 9,000Y
・Athlon II X2 255(3.1GHz,L2 1MBx2,TDP65W) 8,000Y

Hmm 975 or not until Thuban ? Or just a 555 and see benefits of C3 ? Choices choices.;)

I wonder why AMD made the move to go to 975 with Thuban coming. I hope this doesn't mean it'll be pushed back.

Its too bad they aren't keeping the 965 so the 955 will drop in price. I guess we can't have everything. :p:

Were is Thuban dam its almost Feb still no news or leaked bench's :(

AMD six core this spring, just like Intel.

Thuban is not just Istanbul for desktop. It has some differences ,and IMO it will be quite a good desktop hexcore CPU ;).

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Originally Posted by Chrono Detector

The 975 sounds nice, but its a shame that it once again has the 140W TDP, but I rather see AMD focus on creating a CPU that does not require such high power usage, but hey, if it works everybody wins.

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If it has the performance I dont see the problem with the top bin having
140W TDP, Its not like you would really notice a massive diffrence on the electric bill unless you were running a data center full of them.

if you had a data center, i think a few 2.6ghz at 65W 905e's would be better suited. but if you can only have one chip 3.6ghz sounds nice

especially for people who do not have the knowledge to do some OC, 3.6 ghz quad will be really good for anything, from gaming and working :P

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Originally Posted by informal

Thuban is not just Istanbul for desktop. It has some differences ,and IMO it will be quite a good desktop hexcore CPU ;).

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That's a different thread.

I was posting in reference to ajaidev's and Enjoy's posts above mine ;).

I meant the part about not being based on IS, neither of them wrote anything about it.

Well some people were wondering why(if it is based on Istanbul) there are no benchmarks and the launch is pretty close.

why 140W?

I have never seen a X4 965 that needs a voltage bump to get at 3.6GHz, I doubt a X4 965 C3 @ 3.6GHz @ stock volts have higher TDP than 125W.

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Originally Posted by Lokinhow

why 140W?

I have never seen a X4 965 that needs a voltage bump to get at 3.6GHz, I doubt a X4 965 C3 @ 3.6GHz @ stock volts have higher TDP than 125W.

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My 965 C3 does 3.6 Ghz @ 1.31v :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by informal

Well some people were wondering why(if it is based on Istanbul) there are no benchmarks and the launch is pretty close.

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If it was based on istanbul then we would have already seen them launched. However Thuban is based on Lisbon, keep an eye on the AMD thread ....pretty soon :sofa:

Phenoms 975BE ? Trying to resumable i7 975EX ?

Are any of these would OC close to a 920 anyways? In case it will be really good news.

my 940 C2 does 3.6ghz at bios, then it does it with a BSOD, and thats it...

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Originally Posted by duploxxx

If it was based on istanbul then we would have already seen them launched. However Thuban is based on Lisbon, keep an eye on the AMD thread ....pretty soon :sofa:

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If you look up a few posts,I actually stated that it is not based on Istanbul ;).

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Originally Posted by Lokinhow

why 140W?

I have never seen a X4 965 that needs a voltage bump to get at 3.6GHz, I doubt a X4 965 C3 @ 3.6GHz @ stock volts have higher TDP than 125W.

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it has to be rated higher than it needs to compensate for droop from bad boards like the ones made by asus for HP (or pegatron now).

i dont get whats so bad about 140W its only 15W more and its not like it will spend much if any time at full wattage for the bulk of users that will get it and not beable to lower the voltage and or wont oc it. the higher voltage is nice for the end user anyways since it will let them oc in overdrive even when they cant change the voltage

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

it has to be rated higher than it needs to compensate for droop from bad boards like the ones made by asus for HP (or pegatron now).

i dont get whats so bad about 140W its only 15W more and its not like it will spend much if any time at full wattage for the bulk of users that will get it and not beable to lower the voltage and or wont oc it. the higher voltage is nice for the end user anyways since it will let them oc in overdrive even when they cant change the voltage

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hmm, I didn't thought about ones who can't change de voltage
good point :up:

975 should be C3 only ???

Why would they still make C2 ?

Amd needs a unlocked turbo boost feature. Call it BlackBOOST, where you could manage your own voltage and overclocks with hardware bios support. That would be pimp. I think its something that could compete very well with intel feature wise. I bet many people would love this, just to be able to overclock without damaging your hardware from 24/7 voltage abuse, and energy savings. :up:

Have you heard about RMClock?

overdrive supports all of that (voltage adjusting depends on the MB), but u also have to take into account that most computers sold by the major oems dont have proper cooling and dont have proper pwms so overclocking is not a really good idea since poeople will ether freak out over temps or kill the cpus. but overdrive is the best software ocing tool ive ever seen

what they need is turbo mode so they can cheat in clock to clock comparisons like intel so a 2.66ghz that runs at 2.9 or 3.1 isnt beating the 2.8ghz parts or atleast not by the margins as of now

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

overdrive supports all of that (voltage adjusting depends on the MB), but u also have to take into account that most computers sold by the major oems dont have proper cooling and dont have proper pwms so overclocking is not a really good idea since poeople will ether freak out over temps or kill the cpus. but overdrive is the best software ocing tool ive ever seen

what they need is turbo mode so they can cheat in clock to clock comparisons like intel so a 2.66ghz that runs at 2.9 or 3.1 isnt beating the 2.8ghz parts or atleast not by the margins as of now

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Thats what I was getting at. A totally customizable hardware turboboost. Not the software overdrive solution.

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Originally Posted by informal

If you look up a few posts,I actually stated that it is not based on Istanbul ;).

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i know you know that :D

I was just reading this

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3724

Now while i agree that i3 530 is a good choice for several things, i3 540 is not worth it IMO

i3 540 cost $145 and x4 925 cost $141

Now the HTPC thing i am sure that a x4 620 can knock the i3 530 quite badly with raw playback. Try a high enough bit rate encoded H264 and even a X4 will show all core being used. Generally the Athlon X4's are very very good HTPC cpu's and at $99 the 620 and $113 for the x4 630 are very hard to beat.

I would like a test where they use sources encoded in super high bit rate and without hardware acc. x4 620 + 785g and i3 530 + h55 :)

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Phenoms 975BE ? Trying to resumable i7 975EX ?

Are any of these would OC close to a 920 anyways? In case it will be really good news.

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Or just sticking to their current naming scheme?