compact minitower for 100% internal WC, 240mm rad....

Well, here in Brazil the choices go down to just 2 options that could fit it:

GMC R2 Toast
CM Elite 340

so here goes:

I'll put it togheter with my Tv, something like HTPC, but don't want to leave the casemod "aspect".
Both ar very beautiful for this purpose.

It WILL be "matx friendly", in fact, I love micro boards..... but with room for at least, decent vga's...

On the Cm option, the rad would fit in the front, removing the HDD cage and cutting a hole on the bottom of the lower DVD bay.
The case would have, this way, 2x120mm intake ( flawed by the rad, but some air intake) and PSU + 120mm exhaust. Would be fair.
The hard drives would be installed in the bottom of the case, with L-beams supports attached to the floor by rivets.

On the Toast option, the rad would be on the floor of the case, as its a full-atx case, giving me like 9cm gap between the vga and the bottom of it.
BUT this case, that looks more like a challenge and somewhat not explored, have NO air intake. The rad fans would need to be used as intake, under the rad, to provide some air in the case. And could be added some top 120mm exhaust in the upper right corner if needed. This build would require some high feets to provide decent intake at the bottom.

Both builds could have some trouble cooling the hard drives ( I use two) but no big deal, and the pump/WC gear would be an epic struggle to fit, but I already have some Ideas in both.....


What say You?

Pics for enlightment

toast
(look the "gills" on the plastic cover, I could remove the DVD drive and add an intake fan there, or use some 5.1/4" to 3.1/2" adapter and use the HD there)

http://g3.x-br.com/R2%20Toast%20por%20Dentro.JPG http://wd.ch-img.com/113031-article-...oast-intro.jpg

elite 340
( I could fit the pump at the side of the bottom front fan, if you could imagine that, and the Swiftech MicroREV at the side of the PSu, may fit)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9605/340elitea.jpg http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4306/e333oc2.jpg

How about this one?

http://www.uberreview.com/wp-content...rstonesg03.jpg

The Silverstone SG03.

Can't you get it there? I've seen a 240mm radiator installed in the front. That was such a nice mod...

Sadly, no.

just the two already posted. Thats LAME, but its the true.....


Here, some VERy poor sketchs..... done in 10 min....
Would be like the CM 340, not 100% faithful dimensions....


http://img234.imagevenue.com/loc584/..._122_584lo.jpg http://img208.imagevenue.com/loc518/..._122_518lo.jpg http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc596/t..._122_596lo.jpg http://img263.imagevenue.com/loc498/..._122_498lo.jpg

Every time I see a thread like this, I'm tempted to drop down to a mATX form factor. Powerful rigs in small packages, just something about it is amazing.

Why Res, just use a T-Line.

that is a good idea, forgot about that.

It'll save some space and headache....

Wouldn't an option be to use a block-mounted pump? I personally don't like them, but with a small mATX like that, I don't think there'd be much space, unless you are able/willing to hide all the cables away from the front of the chassis (where a pump /could/ fit).

Wow, another elite 340, a am also working on a water setup for that same system.
@bobsama, yes the block mounted pump would be the best for this, and taking off the hard drive rack gave me room for a 240 rad if needs be, but thats after a little modifying.

well, I'm thinling of put my hands on BOTH cases, just for the "drama", ehehehehheheh


Some quick sketches of what "should" be the R-2 TOAST

http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc518/..._122_518lo.jpg http://img256.imagevenue.com/loc134/..._122_134lo.jpg http://img226.imagevenue.com/loc122/..._122_122lo.jpg http://img106.imagevenue.com/loc256/..._122_256lo.jpg http://img203.imagevenue.com/loc247/..._122_247lo.jpg http://img231.imagevenue.com/loc60/t...6_122_60lo.jpg

I Bought the GMC Toast, in black.

Was so cheap that if everything goes bad, I Still can purchase the 340.
Decided to take the cheaper first.

Arrives Tuesday, and then starts the log.


EDIT:


after lots of thinking, I decided to try another scheme. In theory, seems perfect. Hope it's "makeable"


http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc351/..._122_351lo.jpg http://img185.imagevenue.com/loc593/..._122_593lo.jpg http://img170.imagevenue.com/loc199/..._122_199lo.jpg http://img161.imagevenue.com/loc692/..._122_692lo.jpg

ahh, you could have gotten a 340 from cooler masters refurb store for less than 20 dollars.

theres no such thing in BRazil.... sadly

here comes junior! :D

if he needed to fight my "BlackWall" tower for its place .... aieaiehaiehaeih

I look at this pic and wonder " will it blend" ( ops, fit?)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8918/sdc10109c.jpg

What size rad and fans do you plan on using?

I have the XSPC RX360 and it is stupidly thick 58mm. Also I originally had san ace's bolted to it so that's another 38mm. This is simply too thick. If you had a 25mm fan and an mcr220, you'd be set IMO. I think the height wouldn't touch a single card set up.

What do you actually plan on cooling? The cpu? the video card?

I would do the 120mm exhaust infront of the psu as well.

Hey man, nice to see you around.
The setup:

DP-1200 pump ( jingway)
240D radiator - 30mm (h) x 120mm(w) x 276mm(L) - from watercooling.com.br
Swiftech MicroRES v1. (sadly, no bottom hole)
Some nice budget fans from Cooler master, White LED, 25mm ( I changed BLUE to WHITE)

here are some shots from yesterday...
the fitting of the rad at top and/or bottom ( still making my mind of wich)
trying to put the pump at the side of the rad....

the set... and detail of the custom-made block, for 775/1156/1366
Plus some pics of the spacing tests....

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9315/sdc10099o.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6991/sdc10135v.jpghttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1586/sdc10136i.jpg http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4189/sdc10137.jpg



... and this is the looks if I manage to revert the case.
As you know, the top-side-bottom are just one folded metal sheet. So, take it out, turn and put it back.
I'll change the HDD cage for something i have in here, spare from the fulltower

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4266/sdc10130l.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1734/sdc10125e.jpg

I'll be watching this.

What are you doing about the front panel? My R-3's panel cannot be flipped around to fit on the other side.

For what I found, the R-2 can be flipped, the pins of the front bezel are equally spaced top and bottom, so is the case.
And the DVD brackets are doubled, i think I could do it.


And my shopping list from yesterday night....

two of each one

http://watercooling.com.br/produtos/...os/acess_5.jpg http://watercooling.com.br/produtos/...os/acess_6.jpg

and one of these...

http://watercooling.com.br/produtos/...-100_Reser.jpg http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/239/imga3233w.jpg

I'm really curious to see how well you fit WC into the toaster. Looks identical to a "bulldozer" case. Reviews said it had 0 room inside of it.

yep, interior is the same.....
0 space is the same......

but I'm stubborn.... aiuehaiehapaiuaieh

and now wrapping the rad, taking the pencil and getting the borders...
Ill cut it in cardboard to keep the model. It will be useful afterwards....

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8820/sdc10155p.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...emo/ghng-1.jpg

On a serious note, the front panel of the r-3 is not symmetrical, so I can't reverse the case like you did. If I ever build a computer for someone using these cases, I'll keep that in mind. If I could just buy the front bezel, I'd be set since the shell itself is identical on the r-2, r-3 and bulldozer.

I can't wait to see this fit. I always thought an I7 would be awesome in this case and I think that would make it possible. :up:

i'm really sorry , my bad.

The holes ARE aligned, Sinthetic, BUT a little dislocated to the side. just some millimiters, but dislocated.
You're right. Tried it now, it fits, but the front bezel stays a little off the left side.

nzxt tempest can fit 240mm rad but small enough?

I think it fits, but is that a sugestion, or what?
my project is on the GO, so......

the rad template is cut, and sketches are made....

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3598/sdc10158k.jpg http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8876/sdc10159kv.jpg


and it's done!

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6094/sdc10160.jpg

I've made two more holes on the bottom of the case, to allow me to use the rad under it, adding internal space if needed ( Dual vgas or sound card + vga.)
And it should look like this

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/576/sdc10161.jpg http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6269/sdc10162r.jpg



And its time to start searching for the feet. I thought in something like this, used on the "cosmos" orientation... on the depth orientation

http://www.ferragenscolar.com.br/fot...21.017.001.jpg http://www.italyline.com.br/puxador/1350_g.jpg

So what made you want to put the rad on what will be the top of the case? Or is the case going to stay in its normal orientation?

I like the idea of it being external. Simply better air flow and heat dissipation.

Both the cpu & video cards are going to be liquid cooled?

i'll use just the cpu on WC now. Full cover vga blocks are inexistent here in Brazil, and importing will cost more than the whole project.

The orientation will remain stock, as I've done 3 inverted cases recently, and I'm trough with it for now.

The exterior rad is to keep the ATX-frienldy layout. If a mainboard change is at hand, I could choose any. i love Matx, but flexibility is always welcome.
The rad will not remain outside for now, because my current vga is single-slot, and there is no other pci used. Internal rad looks cleaner.

Great build, I'll be definitely watching this :)

I just might need some new ideas for a case :D

http://www.chemfy.fi/series/Case_MkI...0380_pieni.JPG

Me likes deep-short cases...... ehehehehehheeh

a pity about the CM 340 be so hard to find here.
Today I'm shopping my case feet. Wish me luck

Joger, I'm curious what case that is. I wouldn't buy it (no exhaust fans), but its different (sorta, in a retro way, lol)

If you're looking for an upgrade, the TJ08 (silver or black) or Antec NSK3480. I prefer the Silverstone since seems to just be made better and nicer looking.


Sorry to hi-jack the thread.

Please post more. You're giving me ideas for even air cooling. :up:

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Me likes deep-short cases...... ehehehehehheeh

a pity about the CM 340 be so hard to find here.
Today I'm shopping my case feet. Wish me luck

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Post pictures ! :D

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Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller

Please post more. You're giving me ideas for even air cooling. :up:

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The case was given to me free, I believe it is from the early 2000 or late 90's, it has no information on make/model. The indsides were Athlon XP -era :)

You can find the rest of the pictures here.

very nice. I own one gmc r2 too and I really like this case, but its hard to fit an 240mm in it, I really hope you can do it!
the hardest mod I did in it was adding two more harddrives.
valeu miptzi!

ae junin (qual teu username no adrena?)

guys, the feet were shipped. Not that model I wanted in the previous page (lame) but another one.
I hope to recieve it this week. AND the WC parts that are the last part to the project.

meu user lá é juninho

good luck with the wc parts!

here comes the feet :D
In fact, door handles, but will do OK.

Pure, solid aluminum

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/999/sdc10170u.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7280/sdc10171o.jpg

and where did you find those, there nice

furniture shop.
PLain simple door handles, easy to find and cheap

the last WC parts

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8642/sdc10172.jpg

and here it is, after some changes in the original ideia...
feet will come later....


http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8538/sdc10180g.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5986/sdc10184z.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8899/sdc10181.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5718/sdc10183n.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3154/sdc10185pr.jpg http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3216/sdc10182t.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6725/sdc10187x.jpg http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/363/sdc10186y.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/sdc10188vf.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8558/sdc10189.jpg

That's amaaaazing.

It looks like there's a flattening of the tubing on the outlet of the CPU block (?)

Just trying to save you from flow-death :P Very nice sir. Have you considered a rad for the small fans? are they 80 or 92mm? Pretty sure I've seen it on P-PCs if you order from them. Maybe you can at least use it to get a part number if you like it.

I'm always trying to get more rad....

yah, I know those rads, but they look like toys to me. ehehehehehehhe

The flat part is because of the shooting angle. It's nice and round....

If I manage to get some taller feet than the previous, then I''l put more fans at ethe external bottom of the case, and perhaps add a vga waterclock....

Ok. I always assume the worst in pictures. I did notice some of the other pics looked ok and there were no bulges, but I wanted to make sure :up:

I usually find a kink in my tubing after alerting someone else, so this may help me when I check my rig :D haha

I'm waiting my 80mm AKASA white led fans to finish, the 120mm are white, but only appear at night.
And the next set of handles I get, I'll put another pair in the top of the case, and make my "Lil Cosmos"

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Originally Posted by miptzi

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8558/sdc10189.jpg

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Holy hell that is amazing! Great job! The two HDD's especially look good :up:

Ladz:

I had a TERRIFIC idea. Synthetic, it'll help you as well if you are still with your project.

Remember the fronte bezel? The lower part is hollow, to house the DVD drive. Something that I DONT use.
So, I'll take the pump OUT of the main compartment, but still inside the case, it that very hollow useless space!

Just use my others 90º fittings and the internal space will accomodate even SLI in full atx mobos....

The window, by the way..... simple but does the job

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/40/sdc10194u.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8813/sdc10196e.jpg http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6606/sdc10195.jpg

i like it, that really looks good. I cant wait to see the feet on there.

Very nice! I was surprised to see you use a res, but everything looks great!:up:

I could see doing an i7 mATX build like this and NOT having heat issues. This is really really tempting. I just don't have the need or cash right now.

I'll bookmark this thread for later use. I have to say, it couldn't be done any better.

What are your temps and OC?

BTW, I might do an air cooled version, I.E. no rad, but two 120mm fans at the bottom. Since this case can hold a Mugen 2, SLI + that much air intake may keep an i7 more than cool enough.

I'd love to see a gpu block added in to the loop.

Amazing man. I can't appreciate this thread enough. Makes me feel bad I have my R-3 sitting on my floor. I need more cash flow!

I forgot to ask. Is the fillport at the top of the case so you don't have to open it to refil the res?

Can you post a pic if that's the case?

in fact, as the res comes out easily of its holding clips, and it can be dragged outside, the fill hole was not made on the top of the case.
I tried to do the smallest damage to the top. If you see it from far, the cases is 100% stock. Thats what I meant in this project.

This week the feet will take their place, and I'll try to use the feet I got, remaking the screw holes a bit closer.
And taking the pump out, ( perhaps even the Res can be on the DVD void.)

AND if you go air, another hint;

Just on the DVD hollow bezel, you can put an 120-140mm intake fan, for greater air intake and vga coolness.
OR remove this fan, and use his hole to add even a 5970 ( the case have 34cm from back to the internal end of front bezel)
But the R-2 have gills on the DVD space, the R-3 does not. Shame.

I'd take out DVD on your case, and use that space ( if its in the upper part) to hide all the PSu cables and/or rout them to the lower parts, like vga and stuff.

Lots of ideas that keep coming, hope it helps. :D

aee mipão soh na gringa!! aehaehah

and here they are, in place.
Looks like some bobsled , ehehehehehehheheheheheh

tomorrow I'll add the handles to the top, making the match .
and replace the bomb

@Synth:
If you really go on air, put a top 120-140mm fan at the side of the PSU, as exhaust. Would do a terrific job in there. My HDD are hell-hot!

no front, look how short the case is...
and the mess of my desktop.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5361/sdc10202a.jpg http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1582/sdc10203.jpg


Some indoor shots, poor light

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2566/sdc10200.jpg http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5262/sdc10199.jpg


and some outdoor shots, almost night, worse light

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6690/sdc10197.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3908/sdc10198m.jpg

merry christmas!
look at the case of Santa Claus!
joke!, brother, congratulations to the availability of resources limited say in our country you did a great job

I've also thought of using the front space for other stuff, not the cd drive and using an extenal usb dvd. In my case I would try to fit two or four harddrves in there. I really liked your project ! Brasil!

and I think its done......

I just need to change the RES position when the i5 comes, the MoBo is wider.
The exit of the REs would touch the DIMM's....


http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2750/sdc10209sr.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2481/sdc10212x.jpg http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5127/sdc10211j.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/48/sdc10210e.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1209/sdc10208.jpg http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8374/sdc10205t.jpg

anybody have something to say ?
:P

Still lookin damn good.

Hmm. I would cut off sticking outside case back dimensions ends of legs, so that those would look simmetrical profile .. or leave them, if i'd put another rad externally on back of case. But otherwise, hats off. Always had deep respect for everybody making powerful sys in small case.
BTW, how about spraying black case insides/back wall?

black wall was the name of my last project, ehehehehehheheheeheheh
I'll leave this without black paint, for now.

About the feet, I'm still thinking of cuting it, but cant make my mind. Now it looks like some "santa's sled" I like that :D
And no outside rad, this case is 100% internal

i have to say Sir..

that is one SICK WC setup.

kudos!!!

new hardware in tha house.
the top of the case will get its exhaust, I fell its necessary as ALL fans are intake.
Both back and bottom intakes are slow RPM's.... and with one 2000RPM fan exhaust, the things will get balanced. And the HDD cool.



http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6818/sdc15415.jpg http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5424/sdc15416.jpg http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2268/sdc15417.jpg

I love it, amazing build and great work.

tanx

the flat modular PSu will make the cables disappear. That's what I need now.
Soon, I'll add another 9800gt in SLI, as no game needs the fermi power yet.

and the afternoon result.

LOADS of hardware conflicts ( installed without format :D )
And sleek visual aftermath.

Just removed the HDD to show the reservoir.
nevermind the air in the loop, it was testing only.

wide ones....

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7691/sdc15426.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3392/sdc15425.jpg http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7527/sdc15424.jpg http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/283/sdc15423.jpg http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5777/sdc15422.jpg http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4474/sdc15421.jpg

detalis:
My anti-molex little friend
my pump, always hidden....
and the cable clutter comparison: CM Silent 700 PRO x Corsair VX450
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3099/sdc15420.jpg http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7347/sdc15419.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/535/sdc15418b.jpg

Closes-ups

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9382/sdc15429.jpg http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4656/sdc15428.jpg http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3255/sdc15427.jpg

Niiiiiiceeee

Is your rez gonna stay that way? How have you been filling it in that sideways position? I assume that is the cause of the air bubbles and gaps.

yep, some bubbles. Still testing....

To fill, just pull it out, its held in plastic clamps, easy to take off......

I'm thinking of what to do.....

Nice setup, turned out very nice.

For an aircooled setup, I would cut out the silver and put in mesh. Then a 120mm fan for intake for the HDDs. I would also turn the HDDs on edge with some custom bracket so air could blow past them. That would probably be enough intake for the case. Or, you could use a matx board and mount the HDDs on the floor and use that custom front intake to mount an H50 cooler.

Hmm, time to tear my brothers apart and see what is possible.

Awesome work as usual.

Makes me want to do something similar to my R-3, but no funds.

half-night....
and the "raven cover", laying to free the loop of air....

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3589/sdc15433p.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4243/sdc15439.jpg

Actually, it looks nicer when you lay them sideways IMO :p:

I can't believe all that stuff is in that case. really good job! What res is that (sorry if I missed it somewhere)?

I've got this here in brazil, appears to be the EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 100

some modifications here, but still in progress ....
my previous WS was in my room.
need some wireless mouse+keyboard and a HD tv decoder to finish..........

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2528/sdc15459y.jpg http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7998/sdc15458.jpg http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/150/sdc15457g.jpg http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5227/sdc15456.jpg http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4628/sdc15455.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6192/sdc15453.jpg

Where do you keep legs when sitting at computer? :/ Argh, painful to watch (if sitting at PC for several hours is considered).
Not exactly most ergonomical setup. Keyboard should be just above legs, preferably arround 10cm, to not strain wrists keeping them too high/too far/etc ..

I like the left arm rest :D

But yes, that does look a bit uncomfortable. The wireless mouse/keyboard should solve that problem though.

Wireless? What difference will it make? One still going to have to sit with legs turned to side, or keep keyboard(whatever type it is) on lap. If for remote PC control from that comfy couch, some remote control would be more useful for controling media players..
I see that piece of furniture made for holding TV set && some audio equipment, not for holding PC one gonna use for several hours each day. Extended keyboard plane might help a bit, but i always disliked how easy they break (i mean those that you can push back in table after finished work), and how unstabe/unmonolithic they feel. Sitting/gaming for few hours straight at current shown placement (which looks stylish of course) can cause back problems imho, as one will have to lean forwards or sit with legs put to side all the times. If keep on using current furniture, I'd cut out plane where subwoofer stands, or even one under it aswell, to place legs there. With some strenghtening of structure, extra stands/legs, sanding/reaplying-repainting lacquoring (dunno if right word?) to not look it crap. Or buy different furniture :)
Well, seems discussion gone a bit offtopic. Project build itself is wonderful. I just noted unrelated things that I wouldn't like myself, as for many years many hours daily both at work and at home i spend at PC, so ergonomics are of high priority to me :)

My next HTPC purchase. I have a normal wireless keyboard/trackball right now and its great for typing, but I don't do typing on my HTPC except a few forum posts and address entry.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...485cfeefd6.jpg
http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/lenovo...ard/17822.aspx

My next HTPC purchase. I have a normal wireless keyboard/trackball right now and its great for typing, but I don't do typing on my HTPC except a few forum posts and address entry.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...485cfeefd6.jpg
http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/lenovo...ard/17822.aspx

"still in progress" mean someting to you ? jeez :D but anyway......

YES, I'm the 24h PC kind of guy.... but the furniture is not for ME, it's for the TV.
The pc and I, we are secondary, just fooling around.....and I was tired of watching movies in a a chair......
it's somewhat odd, but just stress my suspended arms, not much, the rest is OK for now.
at least, I have the couch to lay while doing nothing....

On the past, I had an office desk on my living room. Fugly for living room, but good for gaming.
The desk is still in my bedroom, and my second 20" monitor. Maybe I'll take my PC back there.... or not, I'm not in a hurry....
i already have a lap support for this purpose ( keyboard), and it fits in the couch greatly...... and the support fits in my chair arm rests too.

BUT, the WORST part of all was:

NO COSY PLACE for friends/girls at my side, when I was gaming/watching/fooling on the PC in the office desk, in my bedroom.....
I live alone, friends are most welcome, and they need some care and support.... :D
THAT really sucked......

now I'm more worried about the TV being to damn close to my face.....
but that's is temporary too, LED Tv's are getting cheap here in Brazil......
after that arrives, the PC is moving again.... I love to chenge my house layout every time.....


this pic show how I'm sitting now.... not the "nightmare" you think, just not the perfect way..... and I'll not gaming much nowadays, so...

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/755/sdc15461.jpg

Haha, you should put up a picture of you at the desk on the screen, and have an empty chair!

That rain looks depressing....

new vga in tha house

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1794/sdc15470.jpg

I'm surprised that fit... Yes, it's "only" a 5850... but wow...

I think a 5870 would fit too....

but I'd have to curve the tubes a little....

thats amazing work dude, really. and woah a 5850 can fit there!