AMD Readies Radeon HD 5830, Seals Upper-Mainstream Gaps (tpu+nordic)

Some good news to share. :up:

http://www.techpowerup.com/112690/AM...ream_Gaps.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10553.html

Having reclaimed the positions of having the fastest graphics cards and the most powerful GPU with the DirectX 11 compliant Radeon HD 5000 series, AMD is looking to make DirectX 11 accessible to all market segments. Later this month, AMD is expected to announce its lower-mainstream Radeon HD 5600 products, but with it, also an addition to the Radeon HD 5800 series: the Radeon HD 5830. This product is expected to fill the gap between Radeon HD 5770 and Radeon HD 5850.

The Radeon HD 5770 is priced in the sub-$200 range, while the HD 5850 at around $300. This gap is currently held by the previous-generation Radeon HD 4890, which faces competition from some NVIDIA GeForce GTX 200 series products. It is expected that the Radeon HD 5830 will be about as powerful as a Radeon HD 4890 in current applications, while being priced slightly lower, and a little more competitive owing to its feature set and future-proofing. The new product could be announced on the 25th Jan. No additional details or specifications are known at this point.


http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-09-23/28b.jpg

I was a doubter that this would happen, but then again I bought my HD5850 for $250 soon after release prior to the price jumping up.

Wait, it will perform the same as the 4890, but at a slightly lower price point? That doesnt make any sense. The 5770 performs kinda close to the 4890 spec wise, the only difference is the 128-bit mem bus vs 256-bit. The 5770 is about $170 and the 4890 is $199. How can this fit within that $29 price range? This really should perform better than the 4890 by a little bit and be around the $225 area if they want to fit it some place in between the current gen

I'm expecting this to be around $200 with around 1200 or so shaders and 700/1000ish clocks? Can't really compare the HD 4890 prices since it's older generation and this should beat it fairly solidly. If it was at $200, AMD would have a $600 (I realize the 5970 is realistically at $650-700, but I'm talking MSRP), $400, $300, $200, $170, and $140 card for the 5000 series. Seems reasonable.

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Wait, it will perform the same as the 4890, but at a slightly lower price point? That doesnt make any sense. The 5770 performs kinda close to the 4890 spec wise, the only difference is the 128-bit mem bus vs 256-bit. The 5770 is about $170 and the 4890 is $199. How can this fit within that $29 price range? This really should perform better than the 4890 by a little bit and be around the $225 area if they want to fit it some place in between the current gen

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Most 4890 cards were around 220$-230$ for a good one. So I bet it will be closer in that respect than 200$. So maybe 210$-220$ range im guessin. Now I got to choose 5850 or 5830 for my soon to be purchase:shrug:
Heres hoping its cypress based and not juniper.:up:
If it is cypress I assume some rops and tmus will get disabled, shader count? but I cant really see it being much more than 800, 1120 tops?

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Wait, it will perform the same as the 4890, but at a slightly lower price point? That doesnt make any sense. The 5770 performs kinda close to the 4890 spec wise, the only difference is the 128-bit mem bus vs 256-bit. The 5770 is about $170 and the 4890 is $199. How can this fit within that $29 price range? This really should perform better than the 4890 by a little bit and be around the $225 area if they want to fit it some place in between the current gen

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Man, HD5770 is slower than HD4870 1GB in most games, so performing the same as HD4890 is nice :up:

Speculation time!

Some of the stuff above doesn't make that much sense though.

i - Rather than being 15-20% faster than the GTX285 (5850) or 10-15% slower than it (4890), this could fit in the middle. Aka faster than 4890 too.

ii - MSRP is $200++. 5770 goes down to 140-160. 5750 goes down to 120. ATI would rather make it faster and earn more money per GPU sold snce this is not a mass market castration.

iii - Depending on Cypress yields, they'd either cut more SPs from 1440 or reduce clocks even more. I'd expect TDP in the 130W range.

iv - (hopeful) 1 6-pin connector. Would be perfect for those with puny PSUs upgrading from their GTS250s.

hmm
if it isn't a cypress? rather it is a Juniper with 256bits memory bus..possible?

It's about time!

Most likely these are sub par 5850 cores that didn't make the cut.

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It's about time!

Most likely these are sub par 5850 cores that didn't make the cut.

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About that... are they all lasercut now? (any hope for bio flashing to unlock?) :shrug:

Best bang-for-your-buck setup with 2 of these in Crossfire like the 4830's please?

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hmm
if it isn't a cypress? rather it is a Juniper with 256bits memory bus..possible?

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I doubt it. That wouldn't really match up with anything, since that'd be = to 4890 performance, which isn't far ahead of the 5770.

Here is my take the card will have one less cluster then 5850,1280 Sp's yields might be bad now ,but they can only get better and it wouldn't make any sense to cut off more then they have to .But it should be clocked at about 650 mhz which is where the whole around 4890 performance comes from,does that sound right ? 4830 did not have a reference card as far as i can remember ,long story short it is very unlikely it will be Vcore softmoddable .

Aww, come on. It's my story and they even link to it :p:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10553.html

It's Cypress, but I can imagine it won't be as limited in hardware department as the 5770, which means overclocking will result in greater boosts ;)

//Andreas

I applaud this development. Hopefully we can see some nice low power DX11 budget cards soon as well. Not many people play games, and some go for ultra low power cards with great video processing engines.

You know what? ATi has got one of the most confusing, annoying product names in history. If you are actually looking to purchase anything but the high end, I've found myself really scratching my head. Especiallly in trying to remember the names. Yes, it does make sense if you think about it, but it's like numeric dyslexia, it all looks the same to me.

You can say a lot about nVidia with all the renaming, but I do like the GTxxx naming scheme.

I actually like AMDs naming strategy more, it looks less confusing to me. Namely, the naming strat for the 4XXX series was spot on (and only got slightly confusing at the end, when AMD tried to offload cores stockpiled via region dependent products). As for the 5XXX naming, it looks good for me atm.

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Aww, come on. It's my story and they even link to it :p:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10553.html

It's Cypress, but I can imagine it won't be as limited in hardware department as the 5770, which means overclocking will result in greater boosts ;)

//Andreas

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whoops, sorry didnt see that little credit spot. Thanks for the inside scoop!:up:

Its been listed as a Cypress GTO core.

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I applaud this development. Hopefully we can see some nice low power DX11 budget cards soon as well. Not many people play games, and some go for ultra low power cards with great video processing engines.

You know what? ATi has got one of the most confusing, annoying product names in history. If you are actually looking to purchase anything but the high end, I've found myself really scratching my head. Especiallly in trying to remember the names. Yes, it does make sense if you think about it, but it's like numeric dyslexia, it all looks the same to me.

You can say a lot about nVidia with all the renaming, but I do like the GTxxx naming scheme.

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Just omit an "0" at the end and these "HD" cards are pretty much the same as NVIDIA's naming.
eg:
HD597 (0) - supreme
HD587 (0) - extreme
HD585 (0) - strong
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HD575 (0) - lightweight

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About that... are they all lasercut now? (any hope for bio flashing to unlock?) :shrug:

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It will probably be lasercut, since the 4830s were not able to unlock the extra shaders. I'm just hoping they use the reference 5850 pcb so we can have some vcore softmod fun :p:

Hope they'll keep decent cooling and decent memory speed.
Also I suppose it'll support double precision floating point which is a nice difference from 57xx.

i hope its an "unfit" 5850 core... my last ati card was a sapphire x800GTO2 that i unlocked to X850 and clocked up to x850XTPE speeds... it'd be awesome if they released some more "limited edition" cards like that...

That takes me back, Roadcone. I once bought an X800 Pro AGP that was notorious for being a perfectly good XTPE core. Sure enough, a BIOS flash later and the card booted and worked just fine for the rest of its days as a Radeon X800XTPE. I was unsure of what to call it when listing specs since I bought it as an 800 Pro but in every sense it was an XTPE. :)

Those were the days--budget shopping.

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i hope its an "unfit" 5850 core

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The parts that are enabled are fit and guaranteed to work.

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The parts that are enabled are fit and guaranteed to work.

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i think he wanted a chip that can be unlocked, or can overclock as well as a 5850, just with less SPs

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i think he wanted a chip that can be unlocked, or can overclock as well as a 5850, just with less SPs

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We know GPU makers are past that. Maybe not SIMD cores, but definitely the upper clock limits can be tampered with.

US $239 card

In addition to Redwood, AMD is cooking up yet another card that should show its face by the end of this month, probably on January 25th, the HD 5830. According to our info, the card should have a suggested retail price of US $239.

Following its well known naming scheme from the HD 4000 series, the HD 5830 should be quite similar to the HD 5850 as it might be even based on the same PCB and even use the same cooler. The exact clocks or number of shader processors are still blurry, but considering the fact that it will have a lot in common with the HD 5850 you can expect it to use GDDR5 memory.

The card should fill the gap between the HD 5850 and the HD 5770, while performance should be similar to the HD 4890, but this time with DirectX 11 support.

Anyone hear anything else about the possible release next week?

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I applaud this development. Hopefully we can see some nice low power DX11 budget cards soon as well. Not many people play games, and some go for ultra low power cards with great video processing engines.

You know what? ATi has got one of the most confusing, annoying product names in history. If you are actually looking to purchase anything but the high end, I've found myself really scratching my head. Especiallly in trying to remember the names. Yes, it does make sense if you think about it, but it's like numeric dyslexia, it all looks the same to me.

You can say a lot about nVidia with all the renaming, but I do like the GTxxx naming scheme.

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What?
ATi's namming strategy is so logical.. You know exactly what the hierarchy is.

• 5970

Is the 5900 series..

• 5890?
• 5870
• 5850
• 5830

Those^ are all the 5800 series...

• 5770
• 5750

Those^ are the 5700 series...

• 5670 ($119)

Is the 5600 series...


All 5000 series Radeons are dx11 compatable.

Hopefully it has a 256 bit memory bus as well. I can't stand the gimped 128 bit stuff.

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Anyone hear anything else about the possible release next week?

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AMD Radeon HD 5830 issue found during validation process
Although AMD is reportedly prepping its Radeon HD 5830 graphics chip for imminent launch, sources at motherboard makers are saying issues have arisen with reference boards during the validation process.

AMD responded to the report by stating the products are among its customers, who are currently undertaking their normal tests. Concerning any issues with the product, AMD said it does not comment on unannounced products nor respond to market rumors.

AMD has not set a launch date, but if the issue is serious, it may be difficult for AMD to opt for an early February launch.

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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100127PD219.html

I can somewhat confirm that the release date was pushed back once and that some of our contacts have been hinting at issues during their normal QA process over the last week or so. If anything, I would expect to see reviews come up of either hand-picked or modified reference cards come release followed by reviews of actual retail cards about a week later if there is a serious problem. However, if it isn't a huge problem we'll see the usual reviews and availability shortly thereafter. ;)

Thanks for the info! I won't bother waiting for the time being for the card then.

what kind of issues? did they build it not to be overclocked and ended up making the heatsink or vrms too weak? i doubt the chips could be the problem if they are chopping off the bad part of the 1600SP source chip

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what kind of issues? did they build it not to be overclocked and ended up making the heatsink or vrms too weak? i doubt the chips could be the problem if they are chopping off the bad part of the 1600SP source chip

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People are being mum about the exact issue. Could be anything from non-boot like what happened with DFI + HD 4870 X2 cards to problems with the cards themselves when placed in certain operating conditions.

Somehow though, I expect these are issues that can easily be resolved since the HD 5830 isn't that dissimilar from other HD 5000 series cards.

HD 5830 listed in Europe
http://geizhals.eu/a505712.html

Looks the same price as the 5850??? or am I missing something?

I hope I am, else its a pointless product

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HD 5830 listed in Europe
http://geizhals.eu/a505712.html

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£200 seems a little high unless it includes VAT as 5850 is available in some places for £190+VAT.

If a pair costs a little over 5870 and performs between 5870 and 5950 I can see it being a good option for those of us clinging on to X38s.

£211 inc VAT
£199 inc VAT

Will be good value when prices level off.

so i guess this is the real replacement of the hd4890 and when there is no more hd4890 on the market it should drop right under the 200$ mark.

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Radeon HD 5830 new prices, specifications
The turns have been many regarding Radeon HD 5830. We shared the first bits back in early January and this initial source spoke of a launch on January 25th and performance on par with Radeon HD 4890. Since then the launch date has changed several times during our talks with manufacturers and informed sources. No one seems to know the exact launch date right now, but we at least know that the MSRP will be around 240€ and we know a bit more on the specifications.

As expected we're dealing with a stripped down version of ATI Radeon HD 5850 where the number of stream processors have been reduced to 1280 and the number of texture units are now 60, which is slightly less than the 1440 / 72 combo of Radeon HD 5850.

The clock frequency will be slightly higher, 750MHz, while the GDDR5 memory will operate at the same clock frequency as bigger brother, 1000MHz (4000MHz effective clock frequency)........

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http://www.nordichardware.com/en/com...fications.html

specs make sense, price better be right between a 5770 and 5850, otherwise whats the point

When is it going on sale? Looking forward to purchasing 2. :up:

I bet it will be faster than the 4890. 1280 shaders @ 750? that should put it around the middle of a 4890 and 5870..

I hope this card will be priced under $300 AUS, because if not, it will be bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: because the 5850 here costs like $360 approx or over

Hmm, it's either 1280 SPs & 64 TMUs combo, or 1200 SPs & 60 TMUs combo, right ?

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Hmm, it's either 1280 SPs & 64 TMUs combo, or 1200 SPs & 60 TMUs combo, right ?

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id go with the first one, same jump as 5870->5850

Hope they won't save up on the cooling solution.

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id go with the first one, same jump as 5870->5850

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Yeah, agreed. It's just a bit weird that the article mentioned 1280 SPs & 60 TMUs combo specification. I think we all know that in RV8xx mArch, TMU cluster is tied with SIMD array. :shrug:

Looks like this may be what im looking for. Just going to take a wild stab in the dark at a guess off the GPU Spec. 1280 / 64 / 32 / 256-bit. Core = approx 625mhz. Memory approx 3800mhz. Manufactures can and will make different designs. expect a weaker PWM area.

Like i said though, just guessing here. If it is as i guess, then i look forward to it. If not, then have to think! Please no take what im saying as truth. It's just a guess!

- Paul

Does anyone know how many power connectors this will need? Do you think that the TPD will be low enough to get away with one connector? That would be very nice :).

^ i was thinking that too but then overclocking may be limited with a single 6pin.

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^ i was thinking that too but then overclocking may be limited with a single 6pin.

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Pretty sure it'd be, yeah, 5870 doesn't really consume 50% more power than 5830 yet has two connectors...

Sooo ... ETA on the 5830? :(

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Sooo ... ETA on the 5830? :(

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Not far away, from what I can say.

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Not far away, from what I can say.

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Twiddles thumbs waiting...:shoot: Two for a crossfire setup.

I heard something like 25 feb. but not sure :shrug:

At least price is right !
168£
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Seems fair. $60-70~ less than a 5850. Hope it overclock well.

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February 25.

:D Should be even cheaper in the real world, Amazon are never the cheapest for computer hardware

are the specs out yet?
if its 256bit and 1280 shaders with all respective rops and is 50$ cheaper or even more... then this will be an awesome card! :D
not only a 5770 with 256bit but even more sps and rops! if id be looking for a new card right now id def get this one... seems to be the best price perf by far!
dx11, same heatsink as 5850/5870, HIGHER clocks than a 5850 (if the rumors are true) so it should only be 5-8% slower than a 5850! :slobber:

£170 seems much more realistic. At that price a pair is close to 5870 and should be faster in CF optimised apps. I guess we'll find out on the 25th.

Is it confirmed that this card uses a single 6pin, if thats true i am interested...

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Is it confirmed that this card uses a single 6pin, if thats true i am interested...

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its 90% of a 5850... same pcb... i highly doubt it...

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its 90% of a 5850... same pcb... i highly doubt it...

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yeah! that's not reasonable to expect given the processing power and performance!


BTW I agree with you, this card is pure gem when it comes to delivered performance for the cost!

One of the perks of being in time with High-End CypressXT, so everything is smooth and on 6-months schedule in delivering harvested CypressLE!

With this planned execution one can make good margin even on harvested chips... truth to be told non existent competition does help :)

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are the specs out yet?

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1120 stream processors, Cypress core, 1 GB of GDDR5 memory, unknown memory bus width, but the core has lesser number of ROPs enabled. 800 MHz core, 1000 (2000 MHz DDR, 4 GT/s effective) memory.

I expect the two 6-pin PCI-E power input to stay.

I think you guys will all be surprised by two things when it comes to the HD 5830:

- Large variation in PCB length from one partner to the next

- The fact that there IS no "reference" design.

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I think you guys will all be surprised by two things when it comes to the HD 5830:

- Large variation in PCB length from one partner to the next

- The fact that there IS no "reference" design.

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Both are kinnda good... small PCB's and custom designs means better and cheaper coolers. I mean no one will stick a water block on 5830, well almost no one.

This can be a alternative for 5770 but with twin 6 pin req. its a bit more than what 5770 asks for.

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- The fact that there IS no "reference" design.

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You're right . Samples to reviewers are 5830 GPU'S in 5870 PCB's.
That why on stock voltage it can do this:
The pcb's on retail will be more simple and cheap like 5750/5770 v2.

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Both are kinnda good... small PCB's and custom designs means better and cheaper coolers. I mean no one will stick a water block on 5830, well almost no one.

This can be a alternative for 5770 but with twin 6 pin req. its a bit more than what 5770 asks for.

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While it may sound "anti ATI", I don't agree that it is a good thing. Basically, the samples sent to reviewers directly from ATI will be capable of pulling in some ridiculous clock speeds because they are based off of HD 5870 PCBs. People will look at the resulting overclocks and get the wrong impression. It also pops the HD 5830 into a high-end PCB design that is out of its price league.

The other problem with this is a matter of quality assurance. Instead of getting ATI-approved PCBs and whatnot, board partners are left to their own devices and we ALL know that can result in lower quality products making it into the market at launch. Yes, we will get some kick arse designs but there are always those who want to cut some small corners.


ACK!!! Ninja'd!!!

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I think you guys will all be surprised by two things when it comes to the HD 5830:

- Large variation in PCB length from one partner to the next

- The fact that there IS no "reference" design.

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So does that mean the reference design is a 5850 with a 5830 GPU?

This attacks the market in two ways. On the non-ref cards with cheap coolers and RAM and low binned GPUs they will not be beaten on Price/Performance and a pair wont have the SLi tax whereas the 'reference' cards will OC to high heaven on standard cooling and more with 5850 waterblocks creating a halo effect.

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While it may sound "anti ATI", I don't agree that it is a good thing. Basically, the samples sent to reviewers directly from ATI will be capable of pulling in some ridiculous clock speeds because they are based off of HD 5870 PCBs. People will look at the resulting overclocks and get the wrong impression. It also pops the HD 5830 into a high-end PCB design that is out of its price league.

The other problem with this is a matter of quality assurance. Instead of getting ATI-approved PCBs and whatnot, board partners are left to their own devices and we ALL know that can result in lower quality products making it into the market at launch. Yes, we will get some kick arse designs but there are always those who want to cut some small corners.


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expected something negative :ROTF: btw how is the performance can you give a small hint

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While it may sound "anti ATI", I don't agree that it is a good thing. Basically, the samples sent to reviewers directly from ATI will be capable of pulling in some ridiculous clock speeds because they are based off of HD 5870 PCBs. People will look at the resulting overclocks and get the wrong impression. It also pops the HD 5830 into a high-end PCB design that is out of its price league.

The other problem with this is a matter of quality assurance. Instead of getting ATI-approved PCBs and whatnot, board partners are left to their own devices and we ALL know that can result in lower quality products making it into the market at launch. Yes, we will get some kick arse designs but there are always those who want to cut some small corners.


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Am i wrong in assuming that nvidia had given permission to partners to make non reference cards around the same time the GTX 280 was released?

Nvidia generally gives more control to the partners and even when the GTX 480 releases i am sure that we will find non reference cards flooding the market quite soon.

Yes people will get a wrong impression about card overclocking in general but we can always put notices and notes that can clarify why and how. I mean who ever overclocks a new card does so with Internets help. I still have a hard time modding a proper firmware for a custom XFX 275 :shakes:

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There is nothing about this card that is negative, I'm just stating some issues which will arise when you see reviews published with ATI-branded cards and problems that pop up when board partners are given free reign. I have seen the same problems with GT 240 / GT 220 cards as well.

Reviews of the cards destined for retailers will show you what you will be able to buy. Simple as that.

As for performance, I have a self-imposed NDA for that. ;)

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Am i wrong in assuming that nvidia had given permission to partners to make non reference cards around the same time the GTX 280 was released?

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Remember, NVIDIA gave them the ability but still provided a reference design so they could base their cards off of something. This time we will see cards based off of everything from the HD 5770 PCB to the HD 5870 PCB to the HD 5850 PCB and things in between as well.

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While it may sound "anti ATI", I don't agree that it is a good thing. Basically, the samples sent to reviewers directly from ATI will be capable of pulling in some ridiculous clock speeds because they are based off of HD 5870 PCBs. People will look at the resulting overclocks and get the wrong impression. It also pops the HD 5830 into a high-end PCB design that is out of its price league.

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Are you saying that no reviewers are going to get retail samples? I am pretty sure all more or less serious IT sites will have to do the second review once they see what is actually hitting the shelves.
But yes, I agree, that's bad business.
No reference design is obviously a poor thing to do. But, on the other hand... there will finally be at least some difference between the brands but the sticker and the cardboard box...

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The other problem with this is a matter of quality assurance. Instead of getting ATI-approved PCBs and whatnot, board partners are left to their own devices and we ALL know that can result in lower quality products making it into the market at launch. Yes, we will get some kick arse designs but there are always those who want to cut some small corners.

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This is why I, as a less tech-savvy individual, rely on you reviewers to guide me to the right path when the time comes. :up:

I was planning to get me a HD 5770 to replace my HD 4850 but it seems I have to play the waiting game just a bit longer. Any predictions when there's going to be reviews and a decent retail availability for some of these better designs?

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Are you saying that no reviewers are going to get retail samples? I am pretty sure all more or less serious IT sites will have to do the second review once they see what is actually hitting the shelves.
But yes, I agree, that's bad business.

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I am sure there will be some sites reviewing retail samples. However, as stated, the cards sent directly from ATI are probably all based on HD 5870 PCBs. It is up to the board partners to send out samples in addition to ATI sending their own products.

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I was planning to get me a HD 5770 to replace my HD 4850 but it seems I have to play the waiting game just a bit longer. Any predictions when there's going to be reviews and a decent retail availability for some of these better designs?

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I think there will be decent retail availability at or close to launch. The board partners know this could be a huge card for them depending on price / performance but I am not sure if there will be some delay due to the fact they have to design and certify their own cards.

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This is why I, as a less tech-savvy individual, rely on you reviewers to guide me to the right path when the time comes. :up:

I was planning to get me a HD 5770 to replace my HD 4850 but it seems I have to play the waiting game just a bit longer. Any predictions when there's going to be reviews and a decent retail availability for some of these better designs?

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You can always mod it! :D And thats free, if it dies you can just buy the card you thought you might anyway. :ROTF: Look at my sig, the card does 830 core and 1140 (2280) ram benching...it's near the 5770's stock performance.

It's not too complicated either...there are guides everywhere.

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I think there will be decent retail availability at or close to launch. The board partners know this could be a huge card for them depending on price / performance but I am not sure if there will be some delay due to the fact they have to design and certify their own cards.

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Thanks for the info. :up:

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You can always mod it! :D And thats free, if it dies you can just buy the card you thought you might anyway. :ROTF: Look at my sig, the card does 830 core and 1140 (2280) ram benching...it's near the 5770's stock performance.

It's not too complicated either...there are guides everywhere.

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Thanks for the tip, I'll have to take a look at those guides. I just hope they don't involve a soldering iron or it would be like inviting a disaster to happen, considering my soldering skills. :p:

That's a pretty nice overclock you have there, by the way. I don't think I'll be getting anywhere near that, but I could give it a try. :yepp:

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Originally Posted by silvias

Thanks for the info. :up:

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to take a look at those guides. I just hope they don't involve a soldering iron or it would be like inviting a disaster to happen, considering my soldering skills. :p:

That's a pretty nice overclock you have there, by the way. I don't think I'll be getting anywhere near that, but I could give it a try. :yepp:

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My mod is a pencil mod. ;)

I really hope the membus is 256-bit!! it has to be!!

Anything about prices?