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I'm wanting to move my computer into my other room which happens to be a garage, I was curious if the water would freeze over night while I'm not using it. I live in Florida so now is the only time I would even bother worrying about it. So far the lowest we've gotten has been about 18' F.
If you use antifreeze as your additive for color and biocide then I guess it wouldnt'.
I was thinking about doing that but I was worried about the antifreeze messing it up.
I'm also a Floridian. Do you really want to deal with 100F+ water in a month?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18
Im not sure of what youre asking?
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Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18
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Originally Posted by NaeKuh
We have an a/c unit in here to keep it around 70-75' in the summer.
If your computer get exposed to temperatures below 32F you will want to use antifreeze - especially when the computer is shut off.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18
Another thing is danger of condensation if you run your system in such low temperatures..
But on the other hand - I wouldn't like to have my computer in a place as cold as 18F - I would freeze my butts off :rofl:
also... the cold isnt good for hard drives...
Water freezes around 32f or 0c but if your system is on the freezing temp would be a little lower, not sure how much lower though. Maybe like
25f:shrug:. But below 20f i would imagine it would freeze even with the
system running.
I have had my pump start sounding like a slushy machine before from
chilled cooling, one of the reasons i went with nano fluid.
If the OP is in South Florida, it will never get within 5-7c of 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirheck
OTOH, garages are prone to all sorts of disasters I'd hate to have my PC in the vicinity of, let alone the dust, sand, bugs, lizards, spiders, etc., etc., etc. we're known for down here...
Or an alligator might eat it:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
Right now were i am it is 0f:shocked:
I was at or below 0f every year from 1980 to 1998 when I moved South, came back for 2 years, regained my sanity, moved back South. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sirheck
Funnily to me, we are talking about historic lows, severe weather warnings and deadly cold- the coldest it's been in decades. Yeah, we're hitting the low 30s :p:
Relax guys, I'm betting it's a finished garage converted to a bedroom - it merely lacks support from the central heating system as garages typically don't have vents. Simple :)
(The AC he's saying will be there is probably from a window unit...)
My guess at least.
We have a lot of AC'd garages 'round here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Antioch
Get a heater for the garage, about $45, from Wally World or Lowes and heat the garage up to around 20c before messing with your computer. You will be much more comfortable and it won't take but about ten minutes to do.
Or.. save some money... and fire up some prime95 benchmarks for 10 minutes each morning, turning the rad fans on full. It'll warm things up.
I used to do this in my room when it was 10C to heat it up to at least 16 worked wonderfully 2 gtx260's and a corei7 makes a good heater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antioch
There are many mechanical components inside the PC that won't like that -7C temperature. Optical drives, hard drives and water pumps, unless designed for such low temperatures. On the other hand, the electric components will enjoy the cold while dry, but are likely to form condensation.
If the water freezes somewhere in the system, you're in for a sudden pc death. Frozen water dilates and WILL bust the rads open, cracking them. I live in Romania and during the winter we sometimes reach -25C. It's rare, but not unseen. When we have such lows lots of cars die from it as well, from the rad problem outlined above.
I'd say stay away from it... why do you want to move the PC in the garage anyway?
Everyone is missing the obvious. If the pc is in a garage, even an uninsulated one it is not likely to ever see freezing temps. Even in NC where it has been in the teens every day lately my garage has never gotten below freezing. A sheltered garage will never be as cold as the outside.
You mean something like this???
http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/u.../10001/13c.jpg
I'd be really worried about condensation... I don't think it's really worth it.
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Originally Posted by genec57
condensation? think two different temps...oh wait...think if there is no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigosity
You have clearly not been in many uninsulated garages... step out to mine right now... I'm positive if i had thermometers outside and one in the garage, they would read exactly the same thing: FING COLD! now wind chill is a different story....Quote:
Originally Posted by genec57
But then I live in Kansas not Florida, and it is currently 7F outside...
Windchill doesnt effect temperature, only what your perception is based on your skin. You put a thermometer outside in a windstorm at 20F, the thermometer reads 20F even if theres a "10F windchill". Thats perceived temperature.
Hows this look??
http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/u...s/10001/8c.jpg
thanks Jon that was exactly my point! ;)
Ok, so. I was just running my PC and had the temps at 5c on the CPU. Not much if any condensation on the tubing just yet, but then my pump made a loud "sucking air" noise. Crap! Hard powered it off. I was stupid - I forgot that if the CPU temp was 5 then the water had to be much colder. Look over, here I was making ice cubes in the bay reservoir!
Time for some coolant?!
whats your air temps?
Dude... you need to take pictures of that! Come on!
A pic of the ice in the res?
Hrm ok I will let it freeze again and see what happens haha
Dont let anything bust from the expanding frozen water... that would suck.
I dont let it get to be solid, it just starts to get slushy for the pump. It'll be ok I think. Running it now
Took only like 4 mins to freeze up, CPU temps at 6c and the res crystalized
Wow, cool! It's pretty neat how quickly water can freeze when it gets really cold outside.
outside temps at -20C?
nice ice
Outside temp according to weather.com is 15F "feels like 3F"
Wow. That's pretty neat!
The problem with ice is that it expands. So unless you want some broken watercooling equipement I suggest you move the PC into non freezing areas untill you have replaced the coolant with something with antifreeze in it.
And the problem with antifreeze is that some acrylics don't like ethylene glycol, it's main component.
lol ice in the res :rofl:
I thought that the heat from the CPU/GPU would be enough to keep it above freezing. Guess not :eek:
whelp. Looks like time to buy a pair of 295s for folding and...you know...heat things up for the good of your system.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Someone's gotta sacrifice :D
Plug in an oil heater out there and I guarantee that things will stay warm. You can buy space heaters that plug into a 110 for $50 or <.I ended up putting one in my Garage along with a vent from the Furnice when my wife and I got the furnice replaced last year and between the two with heater on low set to 70*f it's really nice. It's an attached garage but the wals aren't insullated... I put on a new, insullated garage door and weather trim along with a new backyard door to the garage and painted th floor. I keep some of my Mastiffs in there on ratation in the winter... Just gets to cold outside. It hit 10*F last week. And it's still cold out. all the snow is frozen now.. Michigan! Go figure.
Hey, good luck on that either way!
Doesn't take long when your ambient is like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG_1501.jpg
I switched to air that night since my loop turned to slush in about 90 seconds even with antifreeze in the loop with distilled.