xtreeme - a contribute to our dead redback spider

Hi all.
First of all my crew and I was a victim for "identity theft", we threw out one guy in our organization since he wasn't particular "customer friendly".
After we threw him out we found that he has been registering on several forums - pretending to be one of the remaining staff - and in particular me.
We need a lot of "customer awareness" since we partly live of building high performance workstations and gaming rigs.
It's not a big business - it's only something we do in our sparetime - but even so we have expenses that has to be paid and so on.
So a bad reputation can - and WILL hurt us. It's no point in discussing this any more - since we now have give him the alternative to face us in the court - or stfu.

So I have decided to present my own rig here, I am a fan of performance (overclocking friendly) before looks - but have always been looking for a reasonable balance beetween the two - with performance as number 1.

My rig is built in honour to Norways one and only known Australian Redback spider - a spider which we kept in a herbarium at our workshop/office for 2 years before it died.

http://tokyo5.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/redback.jpg

This little fella is one of the most poisonous spiders in the world.

Cabinet is a Tagan A+ Black Pearl - the cabinet is made by LianLi for Tagan - and is more or less a clone of the V1000 (LianLi actually came with V2000 after they made BlackPearl for Tagan - the inside of the V2000 are very similar to Black Pearl).
Somethings is better with LianLi's V1000/V2000 - and somethings is better with Tagan A+ BlackPearl - they are excellent for a watercooling setup, for my choice of cooling gear Tagan A+ was a better choice than LL V-1000/V2000.

Our spider's herbarium had three walls painted black - and with a "marble finish" - that's the reason why the Tagan A+ cabinet inside is painted like you see here

Modifications to the Tagan A+ that is done is ; compartments is isolated, original fancontroller is removed and is modified to accommodate aftermarket 5 1/4 bay hardware. The Tagan A+ is also modified with a 120mm hole in the front, two holes for bulkhead (panelmount) adapters for CPU cooling, four fillports in the front (left side of upper 5 1/4" bays).
Bottom in lower compartment is sealed off - I will come back to the reason of this later ;)

6x SSD's will be mounted in the lowest 5 1/4" bay - in a modified (UN)Designs X Bracket Horizontal, these will run in Raid0 on a Areca 1680ix (4GB) controller.
I am not gonna start a "hardware picture thread" with a lot of pictures which I belive it is a dedicated thread for that too ?
A lot of things might - and will change here - but I aim to be finished within a week with this project. The project was stacked 3 months ago because of lack of time, so a lot of the parts is already in house (most likely all parts is in house).

So with this modifications I belive I have a good starting point for a wc setup.


http://i45.tinypic.com/11j9j46.jpg

In the lower compartment there will be two radiators and three pumps (plus the PSU), for CPU cooling a Feser Monsta with 6 140 mm fan's.
Tagan A+ is so wide and long that there are no problem installing a Feser Monsta - and even leave place for a 120mm radiator in front of it !

Detailed info comes about the components choosen when the project goes forward.
But here is the sidepanels - modified with 140mm holes;
Right hand side (or intake side) :
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vjwj5v.jpg

Lefthand side (or exhaust side) :
http://i50.tinypic.com/umsly.jpg


NB: the white "dots" you see is after I removed the masking tape - some dremelaction to make the holes perfect remains.

/off to party...

Okay, I'm sure this is gonna be a great build and all... (I love Black Pearl builds) but if you want people to actually, y'know, look at this worklog, you might not wanna have a rather large picture of a black widow on the first post.
Kinda scared me when I opened the page, lol.

Looking very nice. Interested to see what you do with this pup. I'm not good with spiders... well.... when I don't know they're there... and see them scurry!

I know how important rep is to s smaller company. We had a member of staff who did the same pretty much, upset a lot of customers, caused us a lot of grief. Sadly we are no more in the climate...

~Bex

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Originally Posted by ButtSprinkles

Okay, I'm sure this is gonna be a great build and all... (I love Black Pearl builds) but if you want people to actually, y'know, look at this worklog, you might not wanna have a rather large picture of a black widow on the first post.
Kinda scared me when I opened the page, lol.

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ohh .. hehe :) sorry if I scared you !

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Originally Posted by Main

ohh .. hehe :) sorry if I scared you !

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Ha, no prob. :D

As said I removed the original fancontroller, it is now replaced with Scythe Kaze Server fancontroller instead.
This controller will measure water temperature in the outlet from the CPU and motherboard loop via two Bitspower temperature sensors (connected in a Bitspower "Q" fitting) and control 6x LianLi 140mm 1200rpm fans on the Feser Monsta radiator. I need to control the exhaust fans (red leds LianLi) and the supply fans (blue leds LianLi) independently of course.
The Feser monsta will be laying sideways - PSU backplate is modified so that the PSU is mounted above the Monsta.

The third channel of the Scythe Kaze Server fancontroller will be used to measure water temperature in the GPU/MB loop and control 2x 120mm SilenX IXP-74-14 Ixtrema Pro 72CFM (this is the GOOD SilenX fans :) ).
After much testing I decided to go for Magicool Elegant 240mm copper radiator with integrated reservoir ( test of magicool 240mm )
The Magicool Elegant 240mm copper radiator with integrated reservoir for GPU/MB will be mounted in top of the cabinet (SilenX - red leds - fans in suck conf.)

Last channel will be used to control the third loop in this system the PSU - Koolance 1700W Liquid-Cooled Power Supply, Rev 1.5 / 1700W since I have 240V and 20 amp fuse for the computerrrom.
This loop have a Magicool Elegant 120mm copper radiator with integrated reservoir and one 120mm SilenX IXP-74-14 Ixtrema Pro 72CFM.
This radiator will be mounted in the lower compartment - in front of the Feser Monsta and the SilenX fan - red led - will have a suck. conf.

So in other words - both the Monsta and the 120mm Magicool get their air from the right side of the cabinet - and whilst the Monsta exhaust the airflow out an left side - the Magicool 120mm for PSU will exhaust in front of the cabinet.

Might be a bit confusing all this above - but I assure you - all this is tested thoroughly in advance.
Worklogs that goes over 2-3-4-5-6 months is not my thing - so I decided to build my computer first - test it - rip it apart again and do the final adjustments/order more parts and THEN start a worklog :) (and I know I'm not gonna s*hit my leg either :D )

http://i50.tinypic.com/v6rour.jpg

Fancontroller is glued with Tec7 - one of the strongest glues I am aware off .. will have to dry until tomorrow !

If anyone have any GOOOOOD suggestions - time is now - tomorrow I will start the build.

Edit; seems like my 5970 is further delayed so I will have to run 4850x2 (watercooled of course) until it arrives :(

interesting, subd :up:

Looking good. Can't wait to see what you do with this.

thanks guys :up:

I just popped the other fancontroller in - it will be used to control 2x140 mm LianLi and 2x 120 mm SilenX IXP-74-14 Ixtrema Pro 72CFM (maybe they will be replaced with 140mm fans on 120-140mm adapter...

Anyway - this controller is a Aerocool 2000 touchscreen with 4 channels, the odd thing is that the controllers faceplate does not fit inside 5.25" bays.
It looks like Aerocool has constructed it so the faceplate will be on the outside of the drive bays :shrug:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2ivhgtu.jpg


Maybe this is done to hinder the controller beeing accidently pushed in to the drive bay when operating the touchscreen :confused:


ohh I just realized how dusty all the parts is,,,, no wonder since all the parts has been lying in my workshop for months.
Really see no point in cleaning all parts now - I will do the cleaning and polishing when the build is finished :)

Just found out that Techflex PET Cable Sleeving S U X X :(

no need for further explanation why since the picture tell the whole story

http://i49.tinypic.com/n3ao2r.jpg

2 words, Murdermod Sleeving =P

It does look unique though and I imagine the flash does bring out the colors a bit more than they are in real life, I say leave as is.

I don't know that it "sucks" - it gives a nice frosty look to the cables, I think. But if that's not the look you're going for then.. yeah..

ohh well frosty look it is then :D

Not gonna do the job one more time, this sleeving job took me almost 2 hours :mad:
Otherwise that I got a "frosty look" instead of white cables the job turned out perfect

Don't change it, that is a very nice unique look :)

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Originally Posted by Main

Just found out that Techflex PET Cable Sleeving S U X X :(

no need for further explanation why since the picture tell the whole story

http://i49.tinypic.com/n3ao2r.jpg

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Originally Posted by Antioch

I don't know that it "sucks" - it gives a nice frosty look to the cables, I think. But if that's not the look you're going for then.. yeah..

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actually yeah when i saw that pic i was like neat it gives it a nice frosty rainbowish look but not for everyone

yay - I keep the cables like this, just finished 8p cables and some 3 pin fan extenders.

Don't have sleeving to do the round sata cables or the sas breakout cable :( - it will have to come later.

This rig is gonna get up running within 7-8 days, I'm soooo "overclocking thirsty" atm :p:
I had this pup running at 4,7GHz stable with Coollaboratory Liqud Pro, so I have "invested" in indigo xtreme in hope to get another 100MHz ? out of it.
I have tested it with the indigo xtreeme - but I didn't really have the time at that moment to tweak the system more
One thing that concerns me with the Koolance psu is that I can't get access to the pots to adjust rails if needed. I like to have all my voltages a bit above "normal" :p:


thx guys !

Last update from me this sunday evening ; couldn't find space for the fillports I have (DD) - so I decided to do it "my way"

http://i49.tinypic.com/105e82p.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/t6f5t4.jpg

The nipples is 1/4" and 1/4" clear tygon waterlines will be used (easy to check waterlevel) :yepp:

Psu is a Koolance 1300/1700W Liquid-Cooled Power Supply, Rev 1.5

This is a updated model updated after [H]ard overclocked potato did review it.


http://i47.tinypic.com/1zlf3vt.jpg


The PSU mountingplate is modified so that a 120mm radiator can be mounted here (red single arrow) for future use. (The bolts for radiator mounting will be removed for now).

The powersupply will rest upon the Feser Monsta radiator - to avoid vibration I will put a sheet of cellrubber (black cloth as can be seen in the picture) under the Monsta and between the Monsta and Koolance PSU. In addition a PSU silencer silicone gasket is installed between the PSU and the PSU mounting plate.

I did also use a Lian Li Power Supply Bracket which is very sturdy - to stiffen up the original PSU mounting plate - thus I had to make my own bolts to mount the PSU.

IF I need more space in the lower compartment I have the possibility to use a Lian Li Power Supply Bracket Extender

I didn't think it was so much work involved before I was satisfied with the PSU arrangement :rolleyes:

Massive power supply! Im very intressted to see where you take this build. Keep the updates roling in! =)

Thank you Anemic :up:

As previously said I have been testing this system for some time (and in different configurations).

I don't need a reservoir for the Feser Monsta - nor for the Magicool's for that matter, but I wanted some visual pr0n so I bought a Tecnofront Visual Trap Reservoir

I always test all wc components for leaks with a Aqua Medic Oceanrunner OR6500 {6500 l.p.h. (1625 g.p.h.) / 3.8mtr (12,5ft.) head}.

The Tecnofront Visual Trap Reservoir is leaking badly (arrow) :(

http://i46.tinypic.com/67p5ao.jpg

So I will order a new reservoir (NOT Technofront :ROTF: ) so I guess the delay will be around a week before I can start the system again.

But the build itself will continue :)

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Originally Posted by Main

Just found out that Techflex PET Cable Sleeving S U X X :(

no need for further explanation why since the picture tell the whole story

http://i49.tinypic.com/n3ao2r.jpg

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you could put some white tape on your cables first. it would look like that with techflex pet
http://www.abload.de/thumb/_mg_8286pwh.jpg

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Originally Posted by Tremeloes

you could put some white tape on your cables first. it would look like that with techflex pet
http://www.abload.de/thumb/_mg_8286pwh.jpg

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ahh yeah put on tape before sleeving them - nice tip :up: - I will keep that in mind to my next project :)

Anyway we were three guys sitting in my kitchen , drinking coffee/tea and we did all agree on one thing - I gave this project a wrong name ! The sleeving and the internal marble painting gives a frosty look - so the name should have been something frosty like :)

I am gonna take high quality pictures with my DSLR when the project is finished so you better see what I mean :)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2a4z9s7.jpg

1ea. 120mm Demco filter
2ea. 120mm fangaskets
1ea. Spider fangrill
1ea. Magicool 120mm radiator
1ea. C-Systems 12 V pump
1ea. 120mm SilenX IXP-74-14 Ixtrema Pro 72cfm - red leds (impeller painted white)
1/2" PrimoFlex Pro UV White Tubing
White Primochill AntikinkCoils
1/4" Tygon for fillport
1ea. Silver KillCoil
2ea. drops :rofl: Nuke PHN
Temperature sensor
8ea. BP rotary connectors
1ea BP T connector
1ea. BP male<->male connector
2ea. 45 degree Koolance connectors for fillport/bleeding (1/4" nipple)
4ea. Black fanscrews
2ea. Koolance bulkhead connectors (1/2" nipple)

Can do the same loop with two BP rotary's less by connecting the pump direct into the radiator.

Some parts list just for the PSU cooling ! :ROTF:

Those fan grills are perfect! nice build!

Ok no one else has asked I'm going to. How the hell did you get that marble look to the paint? My guess is some form of textured spray paint spakling. I could be very wrong, but that is very nice looking and gives me an idea for the next build. :D
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Ok no one else has asked I'm going to. How the hell did you get that marble look to the paint? My guess is some form of textured spray paint spakling. I could be very wrong, but that is very nice looking and gives me an idea for the next build. :D
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The Marble finish is a "paint", and it is actually called Marble Finish and I bought it at Biltema here in Norway.
I even think it comes in different colors. Another great effect is the Crackle Finish - which also is sold at Biltema, but here you will have to use paint as base too since it will have to be painted wet in wet I think. Red base with black crackle looks absolutely stunning !

Painting of radiators - looks like someone has been jerking off - A LOT :rofl:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ve96c3.jpg


BP hires mayhem (downscaled to 1200x800 and optimized for web in PS) - not very familiar with this lens yet ....

http://www.abload.de/thumb/hires_bpgguw.jpg

very nice man i found 3 of those spiders in my pantry when i moved out of my old house last week needless to say i was scared :banana::banana::banana::banana:less.
Build is pretty original as well looking good.

Hmm Guess I need to contact an airline to get to Norway. I haven't seen marbel spray paint here in the states.

Must go look again. Might be one of those if your not looking for it your not going to see it things LOL

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Originally Posted by scgt1

Hmm Guess I need to contact an airline to get to Norway. I haven't seen marbel spray paint here in the states.

Must go look again. Might be one of those if your not looking for it your not going to see it things LOL

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Here you go - Make It Stone!® Textured Paints (at least it looks pretty similar ? ) or this ?

The magicool rads with the acrylic endtanks are prone to cracking... just fyi ;)

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The magicool rads with the acrylic endtanks are prone to cracking... just fyi ;)

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Previous versions were bad - newer versions is ok as far as I know. We have built several systems with Magicool radiators and in some of the early systems leaks developed - in all cases - exept one - the customers had changed the liquid, added dyes or other additives. Luckily the systems survived.
Anyway we replaced the bad radiators with other types, so the ones I have used now are replacements.

A very common reason for leaks in coolingcomponents with threaded plexi is that the people use tapered threaded nipples. We always use straight threads which are "good fingertightened" and threadsealant. Other known problems are additives in the coolant.
If you can and there are alternatives - avoid plexi as the pledge :D
We never deliver systems with dyes - silver coils and biocides that don't alter the pH ftw :)

A lot of snow here (where the fuc* is that global warming Gore ??? - I need some asap ! ) my snowthrower had a hard day yesterday, and today it is minus 14 degrees C :(

http://i50.tinypic.com/11sdwrc.jpg

Feser Monsta is ready to be installed, the neoprene antivibration mat is glued with Tec7 to the radiator. This side will face downwards.
Koolance 1/4" connectors for filling and ventilating radiator is installed (I used liquid thread seal on the threads)

6ea. 140mm 1200 rpm. LianLi fans will be used for the radiator, blue on the push side and red on the pull side, as previously told these fans will be controlled by the Kaze Master server fancontroller which will measure watertemperature straight after the outlet from the motherboard (temperaturesensor on the picture seen here)

Allen bolts for both the radiator and the sidepanel can also be seen, plus 140mm gaskets that will go between the cabinets panel and fans.

I will actually have to mount the Monsta on the cabinet side first, this will be a little challenge : cabinet panel -> 3x fangrills -> 3x antivibration gasket -> 3x fans -> monsta radiator gasket -> monsta radiator !

I have also ordered a new reservoir - EK-Multioption RES 250 Rev. 2 w. anti cyclone (plus some other goodies) and I ordered a EK-Supreme HF - Acetal to replace Swiftech APOGEE XT.

And lastly I went back to the "drawing board" - with the EK reservoir I will install two more external fillports (filling/ventilating) for the reservoir.

I will also have to modify the hole for the power and breakoutcable's to the 6x ssd's - since the hole is a little "offset".


The problem :p: :

http://i48.tinypic.com/5txegi.jpg







Finally decided which bay hw I want/need :

http://i47.tinypic.com/rarnde.jpg

From top;
LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray/HD DVD-ROM (sata)
Plextor PX-880 (sata)
Kingwin SATA Hot-Swap - trayless / 3 bay
Alphacool blue LCD display 200x64
Aerocool 2000 touchscreen fancontroller
Scythe Kaze server 5.25" fancontroller

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Hmm Guess I need to contact an airline to get to Norway. I haven't seen marbel spray paint here in the states.

Must go look again. Might be one of those if your not looking for it your not going to see it things LOL

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I visited Biltema in another errand today, I took pictures that might help you if you print it out and visit your local paintershop ?

http://i46.tinypic.com/34grb4w.jpg

no updates from me today - waiting for parts :) .... again :(

Yea they don't sell anything that looks like that here. There is textures stone or hammered steel, but that is about it. That sucks.

great project

thx :)

I wrote "And lastly I went back to the "drawing board" - with the EK reservoir I will install two more external fillports (filling/ventilating) for the reservoir."

I have now reconsidered that - don't need external fillports for that loop. :p:

Status for parts are ; Your item left the United States from ISC MIAMI FL (USPS) at 11:47 AM on January 8, 2010.
Will probably here on wednesday if I'm lucky :rolleyes:

I really love the interior paint. Nice idea on that !

Keep posting.

ty :)

just dressed up the pumps with Bitspower D5 Mod Kit - Black Sparkle Finish

http://i48.tinypic.com/144ak7.jpg

Really nice work Main.
I am interested as to how you got a red back in Norway, she's a long way from home.
I find them from time to time around my house here in Perth.

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Really nice work Main.
I am interested as to how you got a red back in Norway, she's a long way from home.
I find them from time to time around my house here in Perth.

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I think he bought it at the blackmarket, there are illegal to keep such "animals" in Norway - it's a NoWay :ROTF:

Remember one of the guys joked with : "the spider has escaped - who left the herbarium open ?" - one of the other guys was so scared that he left work :rofl:
We agreed that no one should make a joke like that again :ROTF:

I wasn't particular fond in it either, but it was no way it had a chance to escape from the herbarium. So I didn't mind.

Here is a nice pet ;)

http://i46.tinypic.com/2lk5vnl.jpg


+13 kilos of cat... Maine Coon - it's name is n00b :D


Sold my DD torture rack earlier this week - so I am busy building a new one now - soon finished (use it for faultfinding and screening of cpu's / memory / vidcards) - all that's left now is to fasten the motherboard and hook up the cables.

http://i46.tinypic.com/95ybuc.jpg

(CPU cooler assy. can also be seen in that picture - we got five (I think) of these units, very powerfull cooling ! And VERY noisy fans !)

This weekend I will continue with xtreeme...

cant wait to see how it turns out ?

I shall say hello from Main, he is hospitalized for the moment - nothing deadly :)
He will not be able to continue his project for a while and was a bit worried about that too :)


I work together with Main - just in case a mod starts wonder about the same ip.

Hay OcShoot send Main my best mate, I hope he gets better real soon! :up:

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Hay OcShoot send Main my best mate, I hope he gets better real soon! :up:

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I'm back in action.... ehh almost - a bit temporary disabled for the moment :D

Norwegian sidewalks are fu**ing slippery when icy... :p:

After some thinking I decided that all three pumps will go into the lower compartment.

The height of all three Bitspower brackets had to be modified a bit ;
http://i48.tinypic.com/adj4sx.jpg


I also played around with the idea to use a straight fitting going trough the middle plate in the cabinet - but left the idea since I know that this will cause vibration transmitting from the D5 pump to the cabinet (more than necessarry that is) ;
http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6o0zn.jpg

Great fit tho :)


CPU/MB motherboard cooling ; 2 ea. D5's in series w. bitspower tops and modified bitspower brackets ;
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qvs66f.jpg


Edit: OcShoot has promised me 3M Di-NOC Carbon Fiber Wrap for the cabinet :up:
Expensive shi* - but looks freakin nice @ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...ber_731181.htm

Glad your back in action on the project, Main. Really like the inside paint and looking forward to see how you're fitting the monsta and PSU in there. NIce job.

thx shazza, not very much back on the track tho.
and honestly OcShoot is the architect ,so I asked if he wanne buy the cabinet and he said yes.
I guess he would't publish his :banana::banana::banana::banana: here - he is not so much of that bragging type - at least noe more hehe.(I wouldnt either after some burglar attempts) We are banging him constantly that he should brag _ at least publish his :banana::banana::banana::banana: here. lets see!

It's good to see you back up and running mate, err well at least shuffling, it's always a good sign. :up:

Do I understand this right.
You are selling the case to OcShoot?
So what case will you be using then for this build?