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According to coolarer, AMD will be announcing a new chipset for AM3. This new chipset is AMD 890FX. It was planned for launch in Q2 2010. Rumours said that manufacturing will start in 2010 Jan/Feb and will go to retali in April 2010.
At the mean time, they have got hold of a photo of the upcoming MSI board based on AMD 890FX chipset MSI 890FX-GD70.
http://forums.ocworkbench.com/attach...1&d=1260455689
SOURCE: ocworkbench
A little comparison:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1773/890790.png
a little to much PCIe?
if you go to the link it goes over a few basics in a language i cant read, but did see the words USB3.0 and SATA3
sofar i love it, but i wonder if it will be overpriced being out so early, and how obsolete it will be for BD
More companies should go in MSI's direction for layout and looks, black/blue/white looks great.
only 4-pin CPU power and hardly any space for a heatsink, nice one MSI.
wow...seriously??
very2 good desain...:D
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/image/new...0fx_gd70_6.jpg
are those the buttons? or just stickers to show the different button? they look flat and im sure its possible they are fully functional, just cant tell if thats the final design
Am i counting that correctly...6 PCIe x16 slots? Do we know how many are full 16x and how many are 8x?
They have touch buttons on the P55-GD80 already, they feel weird, but they're stylish. Also, the power connector is 8-pin, if you look closer, Helloworld.
The most surprising thing is that there's pictures of a board already...
Personally I don't like that big blue somethig on the PWM heatsink. It's ugly and it prevents the free airflow.
Overall I expected more from this board. It looks like a simple evolution of the 790FX-GD70 and nothing more. No Hi-c Cap, no Vkit, no SFC, no OC Dashboard... :rolleyes:
We need a Big Bang-Trinergy like board for the upcoming six-core AMD CPUs. Come on MSI! :yepp:
i also feel like ripping off the big blue "dr mos" wing. the silver underneath would probably look nicer too
Exciting!
USB 3.0
SATA 3
6X PCI-E
7 SATA vs 8 SATA on 790FX? New RAID controller for 890FX?
Looks promising!
Haha, what about that OC_drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
I can already see pro OCers turning that thing and saying: "give me more OC!!! Damn it!"
:D
looks like its printed on and if this board doesnt have those buttons then we wil likely soon see a Deluxe version that does have a power and reset button on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
There is actually a cover on the CPU power so it's actually 8-pin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helloworld_98
Those buttons are fully functional for sure - they already work on some released MSI motherboards.
I thought those are capacitive buttons. Where the contact by your finger will complete the circuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
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Originally Posted by Starscream
those are buttons its just they are touch sensitive.
lol one question 6 answers, thanks guys. i trust they work, and they better, cause i build my own cases from store bought acrylic, and i never add the power buttons, lol
This is looking good, I like motherboards with lots of PCI-E. :D
i am glad that msi found its own color. nice to see em so popular my fav mobo company :)
Nope, it's perfect. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
with the exception of the DrMOS this is a very snazzy board
Not quite, there's still one Legacy PCI and an IDE but that helps if you're setting up RAID on a fresh install.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
I hadn't been impressed by anything MSi until their P55-GD65 and 790F/GX boards came along. This should go well with the C3 965 and 975.
i cant wait till i drop 500$ on a new board and a six core amd chip, just when i thought the credit card companies couldnt hate me enough already. i did expect to do a major upgrade in spring 2010, but its going to be here soon, and i dont know if im ready to commit.
Orochi(BD based) is AM3 also,so it won't be any more obsolete than any other AM3 board.It will have a new chipset so if anything else it will provide probably better support for BD cores than the rest of (current) AM3 line-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
To be honest I like the 790FX heatsinks better. The blue plastic looking cover looks a bit funky IMO :p: But minor detail.
For the little on-board buttons, I'd prefer real buttons because less likely to act up, and also cheaper - no need for the more expensive capacitive buttons that cost more.
I like everything, but there is no space for heatsink
Didnt know that. Its a cool thing unles u have realy big fingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
The real buttons maybe a more expensive solution.:D
It looks pretty good, I see it has a coolaler logo on it as well :p:
I think first gen BD will be using AM3 socket since it doesn't have a graphic chipQuote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
It will.Quote:
Originally Posted by haylui
http://prohardver.hu/dl/upc/2009-12/13063_amd_rmap.png
will this board let you unlock extra cpu cores?
Whenever a brands board is doing well Asus soon adopts the same colors just wait for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
But yeah Kinda stupid with the mass amount of pci-e slots. I would have liked to see them keep an extra Lan port and scrap 2 of those pci-e slots.
OH WOW! Is that a rear CMOS reset button I see there?!?! Please tell me it is.
I like the PCI-E ports, gives a user the option to put he's Graphicscard pretty much wherever he wants:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
Looks good, hopefully the PCIe layout will give enough bandwidth to the right slots for 4x HD5870. Should be fun with a 6-core black edition CPU.
Humm this will be a gr8 upgrade for my 790 GD70 quad 5850 crunching system, but then again i'll have to buy 2 new 5850's well i'll wait till 5850 costs much less...
I have sent my 790 GD70 for RMA maybe they will send me this instead :)
You should buy one and tell us which port gives the best performance. It's like testing ram slots for best performance but much more time consuming haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
Its a nice mobo overall, i see it has LED3 and just to think BD may sit in this very mobo after 8-10 months is quite a nice dream.
What i want from a upgraded mobo in this chip-set is Vkit and OC Dashboard....
Quantum wave audio card sucks and so does the super pipe...
doesn't BD support quad channel RAM or is it for servers only? All I can see here is dual channel DDR3 slots. Probably a new chipset is coming in 2011 then?Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
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Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
I agree with you both.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
here's the same source, but translated:
http://translate.google.com/translat...p%3Fp%3D456037
It clearly says that there will be SATA 6Gb/s & USB 3.0. I hope they delay it slightly and add PCIe 3.0 too!:rolleyes:
SB850 won't support the USB 3.0 and no chance for PCI-E 3.0 because the standard finalized just few weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by inferKNOX
doesn't stop msi from adding a 3rd party chipset ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
The USB 3.0 and SATA 600 is nice, but without proper PCIe connection it's as good as useless.
If somebody uses RAID 5 with SATA 300, PCIe link can transfer 250 MB/s only, what is edgewise, 8 HDDs has read around this 250 MB/s. But with two SSD, this is huge bottleneck.
With SATA 600 is the bottleneck even worse and I am afraid we need more than just two PCIe links per controller. New HDDs would have higher read and write speeds and if you'll use more of them, you would be :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up (sorry to say, but it's true).
So we need at least two PCIe 2.0 links per every USB/SATA controller. Does the RS890 have something like that? If doesn't, there is nothing to be happy about.
AMD's SB connection, just like Intel's DMI, is 4 PCIe lanes, making it 1000MBps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
SB8xx will also probably get PCIe 2.0, making it 2000MBps.
So, let's make it clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
The new SB850 southbridge will natively support the SATA 3 (~SATA 600) standard. There is no need PCI-E lines for it.
The USB 3.0 support can be carry out with external controlles (via PCI-E lanes).
http://www.dvhardware.net/news/amd_sb800_features.jpg
http://media.bestofmicro.com/,Y-Q-177506-3.jpg
true:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/image/new...0fx_gd70_7.jpg
Those slides are fricking old. See "sample/production" for SB800 is "Oct08/Q1 09"... Dunno, SB800 is still a may-part, am I right? What makes it impossible for them to add USB3.0, seeing it was finalized in november 2008?
€dith: OK, nedjo was faster...
Please, drop the heatsink covers. They look cheap and worsen the airflow around fins.
And I hope, that FIS sATA port-multiplier works, Intel is only putting this into their slides, pre-release info, but never in the actual product. :shakes:
I thought,for Bulldozer is a primare socekt AM3+, right? But is compactable with AM3...Maybe 890FX is AM3+? Or will than next socket AM3+ in 2011?
What does this FIS SATA port-multiplier do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerou
It's like a USB-hub, but for SATA.
Although with the number of ports onboard and the availability of cheap
PCI/PCIe SATA-adapter or RAID-cards, I don't see much point to use the
(unfortunately) more expensive port multipliers.
nice 5ghz pcie x4? so what... is that pcie 3? -shrug-
No. It's 2.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
1.0 = 2.5GHz
2.0 = 5.0GHz
Well, I'd say it isn't important if the SB supports SATA 600 directly or it is done via separate controller, it's just matter of latency. The main thing is that the own SB is connected only by 4 PCIe lines, just named as A-Link Express 3.0, but still 4 PCIe links. Well, if it would really be PCIe gen 2, no problem though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
Otherwise 1GB/s is way too low I think - arround 600 MB/s can be eaten by SATA 600 only (using 3 SATA 600 SSD's no problem reaching this). So two PCIe lanes for USB 3.0 controller, which is going to be connected to SB, am I right? (not mentioning two PCIe 1.x lanes are minimall value for USB 3.0 500 MB/s), can have only 400 MB/s than. It would be a bottleneck, if you imagine a situation moving some stuff from two or three USB 3.0 disks to three RAID 5 SSD's and copying something through 1Gb LAN in the same time. A bit strange situation but can happen.
This board looks sexy. Very interested to see how performance is compared with current 790FX/GX boards.
Also, anyone hear rumors about DDR2-based 890FX boards? I tihnk its doubtful, but I just biought my ram a few months back and I'd hate to get rid of it already.
I think that it will be a gen 2 link. The USB 3.0 can be connected directly to the NB and if I'm not mistaken the SB850 won't support the RAID 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
NB-SB connection is pciex4 2.0; gigabit nic is moved from external into the SB so some lanes are freed for USB 3.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
sb850 does support 6 sata 6G raid ports (level 0; 1; 5; 0+1 ; there is no reason to drop raid 5 support on their high end SB) and this chipset is going to have more pcie 2.0 lanes than any other chipset out there (42 lanes + up to 11 links makes 7 slots + 4 onboard devices)
additionally the southbridge is going to support fan control for 5 fans; 8 voltage readouts and 4 temp probes :D
looks like AMD is going to overtake intel on the chipset side; they improved alot while intel is still at ich8R levels in terms of connectivity :rolleyes:
Yeah but i9 is here almost and Phenom II x6 is how far away?
amd is taking a dis-satisfyingly long time to get their x6 out.
The economy sucks I doubt they are in a huge rush, Plus I hope you dont think it's going to cost $200. An x6 Opteron costs around a grand. So what? It's a server chip you might say. Well for those of us who remember the FX line the FX-57 for instance cost around a grand when it came out. So if they are going to offer a x6 Opteron at $1000 a comparable and a x6 for desktop it won't make sense to screw over their bread and butter (server industry) by releasing a chip that is relatively the same for $800 less. Especially with businesses trying to cut costs and increase efficiency more than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
I think AMD might take the microcenter approach. Sell cheaper chips to increase board sales to help their partners out (and themselves). $300-400 range minimum for a hexa-core is my bet.
Still one heck of a deal compared to the i7s if you ask me. I plan on dropping in a hexa-core into my future rig. I'm skipping quads all together :cool:
since intel has the highest performing chip they are setting the prices. if AMD wants to sell any, they are going to have to make it cost less than the competition. and who knows if intel will drop prices just to play with AMD and force them to drop their prices too.
im not sure what kind of clocks we will see to keep under their 140W tdp, but im expecting 2.8-3.2ghz for their highest at launch, and probably make that their black edition. and they will have a 2.4-2.6ghz model with a locked multi aswell. im betting prices will be 220$ for the lower and 270$ for the faster, after the initial launch price (like how the PII 940 dropped 20% after the first week) <-all speculation on my part