Solidata SC-64 SF-1500 (SLC)

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11-04-2009, 05:55 PM
F.E.A.R.

Solidata SC-64 SF-1500 (SLC)

Last week i get the testsample "Solidata SC-64 SF-1500" (SLC). Price at the moment 549€ or US-$ 815

http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0713hjtk.jpg

Win7 x64 + AHCI @ ICH10R...

http://www.abload.de/img/win7_x64_mit_ahciwhnc.jpg

Win7 x64 + AHCI - 4k - 100% read

http://www.abload.de/img/4k_100_read_100_sequenhce4.jpg

Win7 x64 + AHCI - 4k - 100% write

http://www.abload.de/img/4k_100_write_100_seque6d0r.jpg
11-04-2009, 07:01 PM
One_Hertz

WOW very nice. The price is very reasonable for that performance. Are 32gb models available?

edit: how many outstanding ios?
11-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Griff805

Do you have any more information on these drives? Are these an internal RAID configuration? I'd be interested in some more Benchmarks-
11-05-2009, 06:00 AM
F.E.A.R.

@ One_Hertz

32GB? I don´t know.
64 Outstanding IOs

@ Griff805

SF1200 - 8 Channels Consumer / Mobile User

SF1500 - 16 Channels Enterprise Level (my testsample)

Duraclass -
* DuraWrite™ extends the endurance of SSDs
* Intelligent Block Management & Wear Leveling
* Intelligent Read Disturb Management
* Intelligent “Recycling” for advanced free space management
* RAISE™ (Redundant Array of Independent Silicon Elements)
* Best-in-Class ECC protection for longest data retention and drive life

Data Protection and Reliability

SF-1500 SSD Processors provide up to 100x greater data protection than today's SSDs, and leading enterprise HDDs. This is a result of superior ECC protection and unique RAISE™ (Redundant Array of Independent Silicon Elements) technology. RAISE provides the protection and reliability of RAID on a single drive without the significant write overhead of parity.
11-05-2009, 06:17 AM
Speederlander

The biggest question I now have on any and all single SSDs (and SSDs in RAID) is what does the performance look like after they get pummeled with heavy use for a while?
11-05-2009, 07:01 AM
F.E.A.R.

Yesterday, i stressed this SSD with ~ 200.000 little files. I feel no drop. (no blockfragmentation)
The drop with Indilinx-SSD is very noticeable. The blockfragmentation is very high.

Duraclass clean empty cells in background (ist´s not GC like indilinx !!!).
You can use this SSDs in big arrays
11-05-2009, 11:04 AM
alfaunits

Impressive.... pricing?
11-05-2009, 12:00 PM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaunits

Impressive.... pricing?

Impressive reading skills. The very first line of the OP.
11-05-2009, 12:46 PM
Griff805

Anyone know of any US retailers that are selling them?
11-05-2009, 01:03 PM
F.E.A.R.

Here are the rest of the benchmarks with the SC-64 SF-1500

4k- 100% read - 100% random

http://www.abload.de/img/4k_100_read_100_random1ghm.jpg

4k- 100% write - 100% random

http://www.abload.de/img/4k_100_write_100_rando3dzo.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/hc_010dfsc.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_0095fss.jpg

FC-Test (create) with the big-Pattern - 45 sec.
11-05-2009, 01:04 PM
Ao1

@FEAR. Do you know anything about how the mlc version performs? I see it is the same price but double the capacity, which is not bad.
11-05-2009, 01:08 PM
F.E.A.R.

A user in our german forum get a sample SS 128-(P) MLC - SF1500.
I can ask him for some benches.

But it´s a Enterprice-SSD too (Non-Consumer)
11-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Ao1

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.

A user in our german forum get a sample SS 128-(P) MLC.
I can ask him for some benches.

Thanks :up:

EDIT: looking at the link to the photo of the box, have they got > highest price/ performance ratio the wrong way around? :)

I'm gonna guess the mainstream will be quite a bit slower with half the channels ?

EDIT wrong way around as in >highest performance/ price ratio
11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
alfaunits

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

Impressive reading skills. The very first line of the OP.

Eh, sorry, that renedered in such way that i thought it's just some spec data ;)

Edit: WOA 550Euro for 64GB - better than Intel...
11-05-2009, 05:52 PM
alfaunits

Curious how that works.. at least some BIOS support must exist otherwise either the password is constant or hardware dependant in which case it cannot be moved between systems.
11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
F.E.A.R.

http://www.abload.de/img/hc_012jbjl.jpg
11-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Computurd

wow this is very interesting, i am not impressed with the sequential speed, but the 4k is impressive, and i dont know what to make of the 4K QD32 numbers? but look svery impressive with that small file performance.
11-06-2009, 11:10 PM
Griff805

Looks like that may be my next SSD...
11-09-2009, 07:46 AM
EniGmA1987

WOW. Those are some impressive numbers all the way around.

But I havent seen the QD2 stuff ebfore, what is that benchmarking?
11-09-2009, 08:01 AM
F.E.A.R.

http://crystalmark.info/bbs/data/rep...skMark30A2.zip
11-09-2009, 08:04 AM
Ourasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniGmA1987

WOW. Those are some impressive numbers all the way around.

But I havent seen the QD2 stuff ebfore, what is that benchmarking?

It's the new beta/alfa versions of Crystal, I got one with QD#4 and QD#32, put the most weight on QD#32 wich are the most important numbers in random 4kb in this bench (When used as an OS/Apps SSD, not storage). You have AS SSD bench for QD#64 numbers, or IOMeter..

Queue Depth is in very short terms the amount of outstanding read and/or write requests waiting to access the SSD, the better/higher mb/s or IOPS numbers on QD#4-256 the better the SSD is suited for heavy OS/Application use. QD#4 is the among the lowest real SSD access and is very low SSD load, translates into opening Windows Calculator etc., and is less important then QD#32-256. QD#1, wich is the 4kb random bench in old/current CDM (still present in new aswell - 4kb -) is pretty useless, infact worthless as an random 4kb R/W SSD bench... To avoid benching the cache, testlength should be increased..

Single E 32gb:
http://bildr.no/thumb/522699.jpeg
11-14-2009, 05:56 PM
tistou77

hello

I have a small question about this Solidata

in specifications, it said read: 280 write: 270

on Crystal BenchMark is more weak, because the firmware is not yet developed?

thanks
11-14-2009, 06:45 PM
Computurd

is this the sandforcce controller on this ssd? The OCZ ssd that is coming soon has the same controller and it connects via sas 6gb/s, i am wondering if you will see higher throughput with that link cause i really think that the 280 limit is pushing the limits of the sata2 connection this ssd is using. i think there is more to be given from this sandforce controller.
11-15-2009, 02:22 AM
Ao1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Computurd

is this the sandforcce controller on this ssd? The OCZ ssd that is coming soon has the same controller and it connects via sas 6gb/s, i am wondering if you will see higher throughput with that link cause i really think that the 280 limit is pushing the limits of the sata2 connection this ssd is using. i think there is more to be given from this sandforce controller.

Check out the link to picture of the box in the first post. It has the Sandforce logo on it.
11-15-2009, 02:49 PM
RealTelstar

500€ for 64gb :(
How much they want to rip me off for 128? :(
11-15-2009, 09:44 PM
F.E.A.R.

~ 650€ (but MLC SF-1500)
At the moment the SC-64 SF-1500 is the only one with SLC

But I wrote that these SSDs are non-consumer-SSDs.
It´s difficult to get one of these fine SSDs. (first the professional market)

SF-1200-SSD for mobile and consumers
11-17-2009, 01:18 AM
RealTelstar

I'm used to this... I always used enterprise stuff for my main PC ;)
11-17-2009, 01:55 AM
F.E.A.R.

http://www.ssdshop.ch/cat159.htm ;)
11-17-2009, 04:28 AM
tistou77

is what can be a screen of HDtune Random Access :D

thanks
11-19-2009, 05:55 AM
F.E.A.R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by audienceofone

Thanks :up:

EDIT: looking at the link to the photo of the box, have they got > highest price/ performance ratio the wrong way around? :)

I'm gonna guess the mainstream will be quite a bit slower with half the channels ?

EDIT wrong way around as in >highest performance/ price ratio

I know ;)
I think it´s understanding problem by the koreans (or purpose?)

But look at the boxing of my K5

http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0723dou4.jpg
11-19-2009, 06:05 AM
Ao1

^

Are they the same drives but just a different box? The quoted read/ write specs are quite different on each :confused:

Have you been able to find benchmarks for the mlc versions?
11-19-2009, 06:23 AM
F.E.A.R.

Different drives and boxes.
The K5 can never reach 50.000 iops r/w in IOmeter

Wait, he get one today http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...&postcount=427

The perf. must be the same like OCZ Vertex and Supertalent GX (all with indilinx)

Or here... http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...6&postcount=19
11-19-2009, 07:32 AM
tistou77

Quote:

Originally Posted by tistou77

is what can be a screen of HDtune Random Access :D

thanks

not possible? :(
11-19-2009, 07:42 AM
F.E.A.R.

I gave back the SC-64 two weeks ago, sorry.
Greetings to nokytech ;)
11-19-2009, 07:45 AM
tistou77

ok, thanks ;)
11-19-2009, 11:30 AM
F.E.A.R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by audienceofone

^

Are they the same drives but just a different box? The quoted read/ write specs are quite different on each :confused:

Have you been able to find benchmarks for the mlc versions?

K6-benches (MLC)

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...&postcount=436
11-19-2009, 11:39 AM
Ao1

Thanks for linking that FEAR. :up:

Those benchmarks are a bit of a disappointment however. The mlc is the same price as slc, but double the capacity? If so that is a high price for the performance. I guess that is due to only 6 nand channels? :confused:

EDIT maybe they did get cost/ performance the right way round after all :ROTF:
11-19-2009, 11:52 AM
F.E.A.R.

The K5 an the K6 is the cheapest indilinx-ssd in germany with a sensational service.
11-19-2009, 12:07 PM
Ao1

Oh, now I am really confused. The first drive was a sandforce controller(I'm guessing from the logo on the box) and these are indilinx? How much are they going for?
11-19-2009, 12:17 PM
F.E.A.R.

Yes, this both with indilinx.

K6 (MLC) http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...=&dist=&sort=p

K5 (SLC) http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...alisieren+&xf=

The SSD in Post #1 isn´t available. Earliest in Q1/2010
11-19-2009, 12:23 PM
Ao1

Those prices are cheap? Price per GB that has to be around a G2 price , but only a fraction of the performance......or am I not paying attention and missing something?
11-19-2009, 12:45 PM
F.E.A.R.

Cheap in europe.
Don´t forget the service (fast replacement) ;)