just downloaded it from my card last night. enjoy :)
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just downloaded it from my card last night. enjoy :)
How is it unlocked?
I'd like to know as well...
EDIT: Unless it has something like 3870's did.
Like most Asus cards it has higher core and memory clock limits, allowing you to overclock further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
U can just use the amd gpuclock tool it have unlimmited clocks
And i am waiting for the Msi unlocked bios it wil have something like 1800/2600mhz clocks limit in ccc
Well with this bios my card does ddr5 5780 and well over 1000 core and the voltage and bios settings work for after burner. However if you want to wait that up to you. Basically this bios allow for software voltage control and clock speeds well in access of what you can reach stable on a 5770.
http://img.techpowerup.org/091025/5770 vantage.jpg
Indeed.
ik can run my 2 Asus HD5770 @ 1050/1200 @ 1.27v( if i bump the memory higher then i'am getting lower score's on benchmarks)
But i think cause its the referance design everbody can get the clocks en voltage control by using Afterburner 1.3
If not flash the Asus bios
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...ware/28298.jpg
Nope you need a unlocked bios to use one tool, voltage you can control but unless you have this bios the clocks are locked on the core at 960 you can subvert that with amd gpu tool but it's a pain in the ass. Also the ram on your cards must be bad because these cards use better ram than the 5870/5850 and should go allot higher than 1200.Quote:
Originally Posted by High.K
I can go to 1110/1475 on my master card at 1.35v with Afterburner and amdclocktool and my cards are saphire
Thats great but I can do it without using two different tools, and it loads automatically. If you don't want the bios don't use it no one said you had to. However, someone else might want to. Also at 1.35v that not a stable clock with the stock cooler so you must be on water? The clocks I posted are occt stress test stable. At those clocks with the stock cooler your gpu will error out the azz at a heavy load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
I need a SURE answer.I am waiting my 5770 tomorrow morning and i am looking forward to flashing it with the asus bios posted above.So is it SURE i wont turn out with a dead card and having to force flash it with the original bios or using DOA RMA ??I mean it will be reference CONNECT3D card so it wont have any problems right?
And another question!After having found the OC limits of my card,can i flash it with OCed clocks or is it not yet compatible with RBE???
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theorw
Well all the 5770 cards are reference and that bios is from my reference asus card so since your new card and mine would be physically identical there should be no problem.
On this I'm not sure but as of now I believe RBE is not compatible. Also there is no need to do anything with the clock speeds since afterburner will save and preload any over clocking clocks and voltage you use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theorw
The 1.35v are with the stock cooler at 100% and vantage stable for many times occt is not at tool i use and with the asus bios i cant set the voltage with afterburner or smartdoctor on all 4 cards but i can do that with stock bios thats wy i am not using the asus bios.
Somes screens of gpu temperature with this voltage & speeds would be interesting to see if it's on stock air cooling! :)
Thanks dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
About my 2nd question i get that i ll be able to load the clocks each time i play a game but i think that having set the values to the bios would be the best way to go since u avoid any program bug or something...that might happen!
I hope RBE will support these soon!
When i get my card tomorrow i ll run some benches on stock cooler and then i put the musashi on and see what it can do!
Vantage stable means zero. Thats not a accurate tool to test stability. Most of the time vantage stability doesn't translate at all to in game stability. Still nice benching clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
I dont have a singel game in my house or on my pc i only use this pc for benching and the barebone for inet and news and pics will come later i am not at home right now
So are 2 of these in Xfire going to beat a single HD5850? I'm talking about over clocked for both configurations of course.
Can I ask really what is the point of your posts. This thread is to allow people who want a unlocked 5770 bios the opportunity to download it . If you don't want the bios that fine but please stop with this debate it irrelevant to this topic. I was trying to be helpful and post a unlocked bios. What is your deal? Most people actually use their computer to play games with this card and would like to get the most out of their card and need this bios to help get them there. Bottom line if you don't want the bios don't use it. Take your debate to the 5xxx series card discussion thread where it belongs. :rolleyes: Here is the thread you want http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=233621. However, this is a unlocked bios thread , where you guessed it!!!!! you can download the one and only unlocked 5770 series bios. I realize Msi is going to be releasing one soon but until then that is what this thread is for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
Thanks. Just flashed mine and I now have 1200 Mhz as the upper GPU limit in CCC.
This method is better then using AMD GPU tool, as it doesnt deactivate powerplay when overclocking above the default CCC limit, and AMD GPU tool isnt even working yet on these cards either.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
You need the newest version:
0.9.26.0
http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-...load-2383.html
********************************************
THX for posting the Asus BIOS :up:
Does atiflash 3,75 support flashing 5770?
Whichever one I just used worked, dont know which version as I have a dedicated ATIflash USB stick that I just stuck in, copied the bios onto and flashed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Theorw
I had to do each one seperately though, and am uninstalling / reinstalling the drivers now.
Cool thanks!I know it exist somewhere but can u point me in the article about creating a bootable USB STICK?
Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SocketMan
Can you over clock 2 HD5770s at the same time with GPU Clock?
I only got 1x5770,it does however work on my other board with 3 (2x4850+1x4890) cards,allowing each one to be clocked independently.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
Socket Man crank that up and post some Benchmarks! :cool:
I did this so far...The vantage is @960/1400
I have to say that i find the ASUS bios rather unstable...I cant finish 06 or vantage anymore @1040 while before i could...Rather strange...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3537/27121.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3002/58047.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3645/vant9566.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theorw
Great to see some nice benchmarks with the 5770. :up:
Are you running Asus Smart Dr or MSI AFterburner 1.3.0 for Voltage control?
Try adjusting voltage. That might stable it out and allow for higher clocks.
How do you like UT X48?
i have noticed X48 does better at 3dMark05 and 3dMark01 than my DFI JR T2RS P45.
I'd like to try your MB out. Should i get one? or Stay where i am at?
Actually its LP DK X48!!They cost like 100 euros now so yeah try it out if u want but only for xire!single card it wont be that different!
Well i have maxed out the volts on MSI aft. but i dont think its needed that much,will lower tommorrow by trial and error!
1 more thing i noticed!While MSI reports 1,35 volts,my DMM shows 1,39!!!WOW 0,04 is quite big isnt it?
not a fight! :wave:
Just to say that the asus bios works fine with my gigabyte HD5770 freshly flashed!
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5081/p11021.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Very nice. :up:
What about flashed with the Sapphire?
I want A QUAAAADDDDDD too....My scores get so low cos of my C2D.........:(:(
Why GPUZ does not correctly detect my OCed specs??I use the 3,6 version too!
you can download the special rev of gpu-z for hd5700 over at techpowerup forum!:wave:
Now where would that be special version be located....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
you did not made a good research:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106483
it was not easy to set up my CF!
MSI afterburner was a no go...
But finally with ccc & voltagetweak everything works fine!:wth:
asus bios on the 2 cards (sapphire & gigabyte)
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/920484p15161.jpg
Nice score!But aint it a bit low..My single and c2d does 10k.I mean it should be somewhere like 16,5k...Maybe put memory 1400 and clock that quad a little more like 4ghzish!!!and core @1030-1040...?
As I said running single card is easier
here's my single sapphire hd5770 on another rig
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6165/19632.jpg
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/989533p11651.jpg
And don't ask to much to my q9400 : it's the max it can do...
Thanks for all of your great work pvhk. :up:
I'm stumped at the performance on the Futuremark benchmarks. :shrug:
With single HD5850 I can score P18,000+ on Vantage, 24,000+ on 3dMark06 and 89,000+ on 3dMark03.
With my xfire HD4770s I can score 24,000+ on 3dMark06 and P16,000+ on Vantage.
What is going on? :(
nothing wrong, just a q9400@3.642ghz here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
How do they compare to your HD4770s? :)
My Sapphires are completely fine with the Asus bios, running smoothly at 1000 Mhz, 1.225v.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
Before I were stuck to 960 Mhz on 1.164v.
What method did you use for flash?Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
How is the performance?
USB boot disk (required my hard drives to be unpluged), containing Atiflash and the Asus bios named 'Bios.bin'.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
In startup:
C:\>atiflash -f -p 0 bios.bin
This command will force whatever you have titled 'bios.bin' to be written to the graphics card bios, so make sure you have the right one, and if it anything goes wrong, your card dies.
Vantage score at 1000 / 1250 was P17882, a little lower then my sig score because that was done at 960 / 1445. I will try a run at 1000 / 1445 some time, but cant be bothered just yet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Thank you.
Not sure how much the CPU effects your score but your Vantage score is very nice. I'm starting to think the HD5770s in Xfire can stand up to single HD5850 in the Futuremark benchmarks.
CF HD4770@1000/1100 w/asus bios:Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3493/p15212.th.jpg
CF HD5770@1030/1300 w/asus bios:
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/621408p15409.jpg
gpu score matters...
dats great big donkey crack!!! :shocked:
Thanks again. Better but similar performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
HD5770>HD4770 :up:
It is because the drivers out that support the HDD5770 sucks
Wondering why my GPU scrore is a good 900 points then your 5770's are ... Maybe you dont set your mipmap to performance when you bench.
not the same memory clock though!
you 1445mhz
me: 1300mhz
had improve since....
No, at 1000 / 1250, my GPU score was 16599.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
At 960 / 1445 it was 16951.
So if you are running your 5770's at 1030 / 1300 on Windows 7, you shouldnt be too far off, also the difference on the ram clocked over 1300 is very small, starting off with a sharp performance decrease before it provides a tiny benefit a 1445.
Maybethe CPU is having a small impact on the GPU score, it shouldnt though.
You can see my full list of various runs at different clock frequencies here:
All the ones above were Vista ones, I forget that, and they were faster in Windows 7:Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
1000 / 1250: P17882
960 / 1445: P18168
How do you do that? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
I h emeans set the mipmap,its on catalyst and it has to do with the texture quality.Its usualy on level 4 but putting it on level 3 will giva ya 100rdmark points:PQuote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
CAN SOMEONE POST A SAPPHIRE BIOS?OR XFX???
Single XFX 5770 @ 1050/1445 ..
Bios included :)
http://i38.tinypic.com/5l85mu.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan
45 degrees under load is sweet. :up:
Was thinking of getting this. I will remember this thread. ;)
thxs for reporting these discrepancies!Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
will check back my settings...maybe i'm cpu bound too...
I hope that is the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
it is the problem these cards should be at least 20-25% faster than the HD4770 cards but they are not in some games they are slower and in vantage it is the same
Hi guys.
I can't flash with ATI winflash on vista64 and XP ( 32bits ). The program say is no ati graphic card :S.
regards.
You have to use atiflash in dos
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...lash_3.75.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
That is exactly what I have been seeing. I have been searching and searching for the performance that this card should have but it doesn't seem to have it. I have 2 HD4770s which I have ran in Xfire and I don't see any significant performance gains with HD5770.
I hope it is just a driver issue because I really wanted to get 2 HD5770s for Xfire but the performance just doesn't seem to be there yet.
Dammit xD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
Thanks:)
Performance issue solved in my case!
many guys over at my french thread report "cpu overclocking pb" once hd5770 is mounted! freeze/crash...They were compelled to clock down the cpu in order to run correctly the hd5770.
Changing the psu pc p&c from a 500w to a 610w did not solved the pb for me!
Partly solved by pluging-in fdd power connectors to feed further the pcie slot (a particularity on the dfi LT x48 t2rs) but totally resolved by down-clocking the fsb from 455 to 450!
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Good to see progress for HD5770. :up:
So, here it is!
A mere downclocked q9400 (fsb@450) +
CF hd5770 @1010/1275
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6213/p15540.jpg
better than my previous score with my q9400@3.64ghz & CF hd5770@1030/1300:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=49
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Great work pvhk. *770 for life! :up:
Sonda pal i confirm that my card is steadier with the stock bios that the unlocked asus one...
In the beggining i could do 1040/1400 with the stock gpu clock/msi and then i flashed the unlocked and i could only do 1015/1400 stable:(
I flashed XFX no good too...Then i put yesterday stock bios bak con and i again got 1040!!!And 400+@3dmrak06!
This is specific for my card though...Other cards might still benefit from the ASUS bios so i should still try it!!!!
my sapphire works great with the asus bios: up to 1075/1350 and benching up to 1100/1350 @1.35v (to much for 24/7!)
hmm, got a XFX 5770. just flashed it to asus bios, downloading the asus xp driver as we speak, cuzz xfx driver wont install. tried a bit, so far 960 ( so the max for xfx bios ) on 1.20, although i seem to get 1 fps more if i swap to 1.25 , must be the ECC thingy? or what ever it was called.
One thing is kind of strange, perhaps the asus bios fixes that, or it was something els ( the driver? ) but i cant even get a 1300mhz mem run completed, did everyone with 1400mhz mem vmod it or so? going to check what mem is on, perhaps a new batch with different mem or so? no idea yet, hope mine will do 1400 aswell though, i want to compete with it.
running mem @1400 without artifact is one thing, performance rise another!
it is possible to bench @1400 in my case, but i experienced performance drop by 1385 for the best card...
just for bench, vgpu@1.35v:
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/684137p11777.jpg
not my best result, probably due to heat issue...
best result @1085 vgpu@1.287v
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/86064p11781.jpg
Well, tested again, 1300 worked. but 1350 fails after 3-5 seconds. hmm, odd... Tomorrow ill check what kind of mem it has, if it's the same perhaps just a bad example. ill try vmod anyway, see if it scales.
Highest 'non artifact' canyon i had was 1070 mhz, 1100 mhz finishes aswell, but at the end there are quite some dots on the screen.
and rising from 1.28 to 1.32 didnt matter anything, so i guess that's just the limit. ill try with max vcore and 100% fan tomorrow though, just to check.
Hope to put it under cold soon
Here is what kinds of vram the 5770s have.I dont knOW any card wearing ant other type that the T2C...
Mine has these and it does 1400 without v mods or anything...
Please report your batch!!!
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/931...70memoryta.jpg
They should all be T2C, that is the 5 ghz rated bin
They are all T2C, rated for 1250 Mhz but mine are benchable at 1445.
Has anyone used ATI Overdrive to overclock their 5770's in crossfire successfully?
I'm using the 9.11 beta drivers in XP x64. One card overclocks fine using overdrive, however in crossfire they do not. GPU-Z 0.3.6 shows stock clocks regardless of settings, and there is no change in 3DM06 score overclocked vs stock.
:slash:
5700 series do seem to have nice OCing Hynix ram. why put the 1250-1300mhz samsung ram on the 5800 series, and the 1350-1450mhz hynix ram on the 5700 series. Seems like it should be the other way around.
Odd, incrementing it from 1300 with steps of 10 all of the sudden did get me past 1350, im at 1370 right now, but my canyon ended 0.3 / 0.4 fps lower then at 1360, ill test some more, but i guess 1360 is my limit then. so i suppose 1070/1360 is my sweetspot, not to bad :)
Maybe the Samsung is more expensive, and ATI dont pick and choose based on which ram overclocks more. But bear in mind going over 1300 Mhz sharply reduces performance, I would think that to get the same performance as you do at 1300 Mhz, you need to OC them to around 1400, before you get a tiny gain at 1445. I prefer to just keep mine at 950 / 1250 for 24/7 use, higher only for benchmarking.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
I found a game that my cards fail in at 1000 Mhz though - Dragon Age Origins Character Builder, so I had to reduce them back to 950 Mhz :(
They start out fine, then start to artifact and eventually the PC crashes. Hopefully once I manage to find some suitable aftermarket coolers, they will be better.
Try using MSI Afterburner instead, it is far better then any other overclocking tool I have tried up to now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nvrmind
I'll take a look at my ram chips now and write down the number just to confirm what they are, brb.
Yep, they are T2C chips. I wish I could have had some ROCs instead lol.
Reminds of my X1900 xtx. I bought the xtx because it had better ram then the xt, but the one I got wouldnt overclock at all. Then my 4850's were equally as bad overclockers on the Ram, come to think of it, they were both Powercolor cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by thijs
My Club 3Ds, Gigabyte and Sapphire cards have all had good clocking ram chips :)
Yea, they will slow down at some point when increasing over 1300 Mhz, as you can see in my tests:Quote:
Originally Posted by thijs
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=452
1300 would be my performance sweet spot, going any higher isnt worth it at all on my cards.
SS at nigh, 1030 / 1350 in CFX and 3dmark 06 and 05.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12365825
Having some issues with TF2 + Zombie Panic Source flickering with Crossfire enabled using 9.11 beta drivers with XP x64. I'll see faint horizontal lines scrolling up and down, as well as a constant flickering like I can see the screen refreshing. This happens at the title screen, as well as in game.
L4D works fine with crossfire enabled, no issues with the flickering.
Wondering if this is just an issue with the beta drivers?
Catalyst AI set to 'Standard'
Vsync Enabled
To keep somewhat on topic:
Flashed both my Sapphire cards with the Asus bios. Getting around 26,100 @ 935/1350 in 3DM06 with the rig in my sig. Haven't tried increasing vgpu yet. 935/1350 gave me 300 more points in 3DM06 over 935/1300.
BTW really liking MSI Afterburner. :surf:
Ur using Dx11 HD5770 cards on XP dx9Quote:
Originally Posted by nvrmind
Just check the refresh rate setting & set it @ 60
anyone has any idea how you can remove the limitation ( or go even higher ) with memory speeds? im limited at 1440 now, and it still seems to scale, not alot, but worth it anyhow.
Or is 1440 just the limit?
I just picked one up for craps and giggles, but have you tried in the AMD GPU Tool?Quote:
Originally Posted by thijs
Ah, that'll be my next victim then, thanks!
Figured out the max was 1445 btw, but that 5mhz wont help a lot :P
Next week ill be putting it under cold, hope to see the core scale and get some nice scores going.
Not sure if looking in a mem vmod is worth it, but first to check that amd tool!
Works well coupled with Afterburner. My card was locked out at 960 on both CCC and Afterburner but AMD GPU Tool made flashing the bios unnecessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by thijs
Cheers,
Rev
Hey rev, thanks for the tip. Amd GPU tool did work indeed!
Pretty much found the limit on air without Vmods so far,
Max memory is 1468.75 mhz ( in amd gpu tool )
and max core is 1070, 1075 is possible aswell, but some light artifacts, dont like that.
Going to see if it's worth to vmod the memory, does hynix mem scale with extra voltage anyway?
Core vmod isnt worth it yet i think, im at 1.28Vcore or so, more doesnt help, atleast not yet, perhaps under cold it will, but there is still like 0.1V extra i can give it, so ill wait with that.
//edit that's 3dmark06 im talking about, havent tried anything els yet.
Is there a program to view both GPU temps and the same time please for my 5770 CF GPUz and ccc is the close but are doen boxes
yes msi afterburner the 1.4 final will be up to morrow but the 1.3 works fine as well
Here is the 1.4 beta 4
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=308640
Thermalright v2, keeps an overvolted 1ghz HD 4770 below 50C load. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
meaker,
a shot of your modded 5770? thxs:)
I am afraid that was not a typo, I am actually pretty happy with the stock cooler. The cooling results were on the 4770s I had.
Running vantage I was reaching 86C at 58% fan speed running 1025/1400 at 1.25v.
I run it at 1000/1400 at 1.23v and its happy in L4D2 at least.
meaker,
86°C is damned high...:eek:
I'm going to check myself but i'm sure i will not hit this temp. fan@58%
I have just removed the stock cooler and applied some zalman thermal paste and dropped the temps down to 81C (1025/1400 1.25v).
It is sitting next to the radiator and since its cold atm in scotland its on full blast so its having an affect on my temps.
IMO, those gpu temperatures discrepancy tend to show that gpu core are not equal in term of heat dissipation, and it has nothing to do with V1 or V2 cooler:
my sapphire @1.25v 1050/1350 w/ fan @58% hits 74°C
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/b...vhk/p11527.jpg
Or the temperature diodes are badly calibrated lol.