GeForce 210 and GT 220 Reviews

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10-11-2009, 08:31 PM
onethreehill

GeForce 210 and GT 220 Reviews

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Today NVIDIA is releasing a set of products in a near silent fashion - this isn't a release that tends to get a lot of attention. And even though the idea of NVIDIA finally getting around to selling 40nm GPUs to the enthusiast is exciting, the GeForce 210 and GT 220 are really not targeted to that segment of users. Instead you'll find that NVIDIA's latest offering falls into the sub-$100 pricing and obviously will lack a lot of the performance of the GT200-series that we are used to seeing.

What we are curious to understand is how well the two new GPUs compete against the AMD offerings at similar price points in terms of basic gaming performance and feature sets.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=794
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...0-review-test/
10-11-2009, 08:35 PM
junkmonk

garbage.
10-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Newblar

wow 4670 destroys them both by a huge margin... and the 4670 is the mainstream gamers ideal gpu

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It should seem pretty obvious now that neither the GeForce 210 or the GeForce GT 220 are going to win any awards for performance. Not only that, but both of these cards are woefully underpowered when compared to AMD's previous generation Radeon HD 4670 graphics card that sells for LESS than the GT 220. NVIDIA is making a conscious decision here to not compete on the performance front as it seems obvious that they could make a faster chip (higher clocks, more shaders) and at least match the 4500/4600-series cards in our modest gaming tests. Instead they are pushing other aspects of their graphics technology in hopes to persued buyers.
10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
eleeter

That is one slow ass card, what is the point of it?
10-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Smartidiot89

:party: Nvidia :party:

Again why? GT220 is priced higher than a HD4670 which actually can play games at 1680x1050 with half-decent settings, while the GT220 crumble and die doing that.

The only thing impressive about these new cards are that die-size I suppose to throw something positive in there... While these cards are aimed at the OEM market Nvidia really need to lower prices for these.

Also what will happen when AMD has Redwood and Cedar out, oh....
10-11-2009, 09:22 PM
SnipingWaste

They might be able to sell the GT220 at $45 and the GT210 at $35. Any more than that and it will seat on the shelves.
10-11-2009, 09:32 PM
B-Shot

Did they spell GT300 wrong:rofl:
10-11-2009, 10:14 PM
xlink

wow these graphics cards are really impressive. With performance like this, even R900 could be in trouble.
10-12-2009, 12:08 AM
Florinmocanu

What i find disturbing that the GT220 has exactly the same power like the ancient 8600GT/aka 9500 GT.

Come one Nvidia, what :doh: design these gpus?
10-12-2009, 12:12 AM
OutSider

may be you meant redesign :)
10-12-2009, 12:18 AM
NaMcO

Heh, too late, too expensive. GT300 please.
10-12-2009, 12:19 AM
netkas

This Fermi chip looks promising
:rofl:
10-12-2009, 12:24 AM
randomizer

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...il-o-meter.jpg
10-12-2009, 01:08 AM
grimREEFER

im curious to if the 210 can beat a 4350.
i dont think it can with just 16 cores.

also interested to see a mobile version of 210 against the very popular mobile 4330
10-12-2009, 01:37 AM
eric66

i wonder for how long they are gonna respin there beloved g80 series
10-12-2009, 01:40 AM
v_rr

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Originally Posted by grimREEFER

im curious to if the 210 can beat a 4350.
i dont think it can with just 16 cores.

It Fail on that :rofl:

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/scree...ce_G210_01.PNG

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/scree...ce_G210_02.PNG
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...iewed/Reviews/

This is just garbage. It Fail on Power consuption:
G210 | HD 4350
Power consumption Idle 8.7 Watt 7.2 Watt
Power consumption Furmark 21.4 Watt 17.6 Watt

It Fail on price also:

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Gigabyte tells us its GeForce GT 220 will set you back $79.99, while you can expect to nab the G210 for $44.99.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17742
10-12-2009, 01:41 AM
Farinorco

What a POS of cards... even GT220 is obliterated by a HD4670, and the worst part it's that both GeForce cards has a higher power consumption in idle (obviously not in load, it would be absolutely ridiculous), so you get worse performance, worse value for your money, worse power characteristics, and even worse absolute price when talking about the GT220, from your comments.

I suppose that PhysX is not a question talking about this cards (except as a secondary card... and even then...) because I doubt that if those are processing physics they are able to process at the same time more than 4 or 5 triangles per second, and that when it owes you the texture mapping for tomorrow.

So is there any reason to buy one of them, apart from the real reason of existence of this cards? That is, of course, that OEM will buy them because they are NVIDIA, and NVIDIA as a brand sounds familiar to lots of Joes by there, so they buy a computer with "an NVIDIA card" thinking it's better. Brand recognition. Pffffh...
10-12-2009, 01:46 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Farinorco

What a POS of cards... even GT220 is obliterated by a HD4670, and the worst part it's that both GeForce cards has a higher power consumption in idle (obviously not in load, it would be absolutely ridiculous), so you get worse performance, worse value for your money, worse power characteristics, and even worse absolute price when talking about the GT220, from your comments.

I suppose that PhysX is not a question talking about this cards (except as a secondary card... and even then...) because I doubt that if those are processing physics they are able to process at the same time more than 4 or 5 triangles per second, and that when it owes you the texture mapping for tomorrow.

So is there any reason to buy one of them, apart from the real reason of existence of this cards? That is, of course, that OEM will buy them because they are NVIDIA, and NVIDIA as a brand sounds familiar to lots of Joes by there, so they buy a computer with "an NVIDIA card" thinking it's better. Brand recognition. Pffffh...

believe me it will sale like hotcakes
10-12-2009, 01:57 AM
v_rr

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Originally Posted by eric66

believe me it will sale like hotcakes

Proof that will happen?
It will Fail. OEM aren´t that stupid. They have already stocks of the other better cards so why change?
Nvidia will try to shift the older low-end to this new one. The problem is if that OEM shift from nvidia older low-end to ATI RV710 or in a few months to RV810 that have DX_11 support and not the New (LOL) DX_10.1 support.
10-12-2009, 01:59 AM
Xoulz

This has to be a joke...! Because ATi can easily drop the 4770 into $79 range and obliterate this lineup.
10-12-2009, 03:26 AM
MirageSys

Sadder yet, the GT210 gets posterized by the 4650 which is 10$ cheaper after a mail in rebate. I'm fairly sure the 35$ 4650 can even toast up the 220. Tully a lamentable offering by Nvidia.
10-12-2009, 03:54 AM
clonez

wow, these cards REALLY suck

WTH did nvidia do in all these years?!
10-12-2009, 05:51 AM
Florinmocanu

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Originally Posted by Xoulz

This has to be a joke...! Because ATi can easily drop the 4770 into $79 range and obliterate this lineup.

it already does so with the 4670. like 2x time more fps, or even more....
10-12-2009, 06:53 AM
initialised

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Originally Posted by Florinmocanu

What i find disturbing that the GT220 has exactly the same power like the ancient 8600GT/aka 9500 GT.

Come one Nvidia, what :doh: design these gpus?

Nvidia The Way it's meant to be renamed!
10-12-2009, 07:06 AM
highoctane

I don't think there is a 4670 or 4770 thats half height so form factor means allot depending on application.

The pricing on the 220 seems out of line with the target market on this card but I would imagine the price will drop swiftly.
10-12-2009, 07:36 AM
Marios

There is one more OEM card at nvidia's site geforce gts 240.
10-12-2009, 07:51 AM
MirageSys

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Originally Posted by highoctane

I don't think there is a 4670 or 4770 thats half height so form factor means allot depending on application.

The pricing on the 220 seems out of line with the target market on this card but I would imagine the price will drop swiftly.

Asus 4650 low profile. 55$, 35$after rebate. I don't see competition here. Only the uninformed or truly power constrained will be buying either the 210 or 220.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121338
10-12-2009, 08:04 AM
SnipingWaste

Newegg has some 210 and 220 but price is too high for it to sell.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=
10-12-2009, 08:08 AM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by MirageSys

Only the uninformed or truly power constrained will be buying either the 210 or 220.

I would venture to say they simply don't care would describe most people buying these cards, it's fairly obvious they won't be purchased for their graphics prowess.

Personally if I was looking for a low profile gaming card I would go for the low profile 9600gt which is $80AR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162016
10-12-2009, 08:18 AM
MirageSys

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Originally Posted by highoctane

I would venture to say they simply don't care would describe most people buying these cards, it's fairly obvious they won't be purchased for their graphics prowess.

Personally if I was looking for a low profile gaming card I would go for the low profile 9600gt which is $80AR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162016

I would go that route as well if I were looking for a low profile gaming card.

About the people who don't care, I have to agree on some level. Though even if you do not care, given a choice between more power or less, which would they take on a whim? Careless people are still uninformed.
10-12-2009, 08:19 AM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by MirageSys

Careless people are still uninformed.

I agree with that but they simply don't care either way.
10-12-2009, 12:11 PM
Sadasius

Renamed 9500GT anyone? Going once.....twice.......and in the garbage can it goes! :rofl:
10-12-2009, 12:16 PM
JohnZS

Here we see another fine example of nVidia's budget card beating the HD5870 in Batman Arkham Asylum as it utilises Physx to it's full potential *cough*
Seriously, what on earth was nVidia trying to do with these cards? This is NOT 2006 anymore, performance numbers of these cards are utter poo, in fact they are smelly poo. Not even on par with a 9600GT That is a VERY poor offering from nVidia... very poor indeed. I would have expected the GT210 to be ~9600GT, the GT220 ~9800GTX/GTS250 and the GT240 to be somewhere between 9800 and 260 192.
What a load of old tripe.
There is no point having DirectX 10.1 if you do not have the balls to back it up.
John
10-12-2009, 12:18 PM
highoctane

Garbage for a gaming video card but they seem aimed at the htpc market with the native hdmi audio now.
10-12-2009, 12:20 PM
MirageSys

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

Here we see another fine example of nVidia's budget card beating the HD5870 in Batman Arkham Asylum as it utilises Physx to it's full potential *cough*
Seriously, what on earth was nVidia trying to do with these cards? This is NOT 2006 anymore, performance numbers of these cards are utter poo, in fact they are smelly poo. Not even on par with a 9600GT That is a VERY poor offering from nVidia... very poor indeed. I would have expected the GT210 to be ~9600GT, the GT220 ~9800GTX/GTS250 and the GT240 to be somewhere between 9800 and 260 192.
What a load of old tripe.
There is no point having DirectX 10.1 if you do not have the balls to back it up.
John

While the performance of the cards is woeful, why would you expect the gt240 to outperform the gt250 (which is a bit above the 9800)?
10-12-2009, 12:20 PM
JohnZS

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Garbage for a gaming video card but they seem aimed at the htpc market with the native hdmi audio now.

Although that is a very good feature and the HTPC market IS growing each year, but doesn't MSI do HTPC versions of the Radeon 4770? (IMHO a much better card)?
John
10-12-2009, 12:22 PM
JohnZS

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Originally Posted by MirageSys

While the performance of the cards is woeful, why would you expect the gt240 to outperform the gt250 (which is a bit above the 9800)?

I guess it is because I thought with nVidia having a new DirectX 10.1 GPU they would have it occupy the NEW mid end with the GT300 cards being the DirectX11 High end, performance and enthusiast cards.

John

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