Full Tower from the past, they don't make 'm like they used to...

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06-10-2009, 11:20 AM
Masterrer

Full Tower from the past, they don't make 'em like they used to...

Well, after realizing that I won't be able to fit 2 rads in my Chieftec Mesh case,
so I exchanged it for a vintage full tower one...

Behold:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4532.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4527.jpg
Digg the sliding mobo tray:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4530.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4531.jpg
And the sliding top cover:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4533.jpg
All panels off:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4536.jpg

The problem now is:
my rads still don't fit!!!
(the double rad fits on top perfectly, but I have a hard time figuring out how to fit the tripple one...)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4538.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4539.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4540.jpg

My innitial plan was to arrange the rads something like this:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...WC_Setup_3.gif

Maybe you give will have some original thoughts on rad placement...

Update:
After thinking about it and reading your posts I came up with this:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4543.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4546.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4548.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4550.jpg

As You can see the rad does not fit 100% yet, i have to enlarge the hole at the back that I made.

And another update:
did some more work on the case today:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4551.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4553.jpg

The tripple rads now fits on top nicely, just needs a bit of work with the mounting brakets.
Cut the hole for the double rad, also need to make some brackets.
Enlarged the PSU hole. Some other misc pieces removed.
06-10-2009, 11:22 AM
exemay

thats a pretty amazing case you got yourself there......very nice indeed!!
06-10-2009, 11:29 AM
lennox

that thing is huge! I remember I had a Gateway P2-450 (yes that's 450MHz) that was a monster and not even close to the size of your case.
06-10-2009, 12:13 PM
Masterrer

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaptCrunch

i guess you want all internal mounted rads ?

if not mount them verticle on right side of case (backside MB) with spacers allowing air to blast on right cover pulling air through rad

configure: rad/fan/spacer/right cover

or if handy.....stretch the long sills making case longer from front to back to allow for rad length and make new side panels

Yep I wanted all internal setup, If this case was longer than it would be awesome, tripple on top double on the bottom.
If I had a MIG welding machine I could go crazy (as in crazy moding) but as it stands lenghtening the case is a no go...

Yep both rads have a bleed ports, but i can always bleed em first and then mount horizontal...
06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
RAzorBurn

Looks like an old Addtronics. http://www.addtronics.com/addt/index...ffa1d7c0aefe3e
06-10-2009, 02:50 PM
Adamantine

Cut a hole in the back and let the triple stick out a little?
06-10-2009, 02:54 PM
Cptn Vortex

Looks like a Chenbro made for Supercom, was it a "TouchServer"?
06-10-2009, 03:06 PM
hellcamino

Haha! I thought about doing something like this in that exact same case! I traded the case with a P3 oc'd to 1.2ghz (LOL) for daily running for an empty midtower I needed to do another build in. The reason I decided to dump that case was because I couldn't fit a 2x120 + a 3x120 radiator inside :( Good luck!

The only way I could come up with was to use a USB dvd drive and put the triple up front and double up top like you have in the diagram. I was thinking of using a MM hdd rack mounted to the back fan over the PSU too if it helps but 2.5" drives would really be the way to go here.
06-10-2009, 03:09 PM
SoulsCollective

Old bieges were hueg. No surprise there, some excellent mod builds have been done in them :)
06-10-2009, 05:04 PM
silverphoenix

I have one that is similar size. The only problem I have with the old ones are they aren't very deep you can't even fit a triple up top.
06-10-2009, 05:30 PM
mattkosem

Hah! That's not even that big! You should see some of the old AT server cases! I had one that was taller than my MM Pinnacle at one point! Not to mention the weight of all that steel!

--Matt
06-10-2009, 09:03 PM
dejanh

Yep, they sure don't make 'em like they used to...
06-11-2009, 12:12 PM
Masterrer

Update:
After thinking about it and reading your posts I came up with this:

Pics moved to first post

As You can see the rad does not fit 100% yet, i have to enlarge the hole at the back that I made,
But I think it is a reasonable tradeoff.

What do you guys think?
06-11-2009, 10:34 PM
Freaky Freezer

I think you could've gotten away with top mounting the triple radiator diagonally, make somekind of shroud and let the fans blow up and out. But whatever works I guess.
06-11-2009, 11:25 PM
faster3200

Speaking as someone who owns a few of those older cases, they aren't particularly good for WCing. In general, they are really short length wise and have a lot of "dead space" (IE small empty areas that are fairly unusable except for maybe a 120.1). That said, I applaud you if you can come up with a workable arrangement for two 120.3 rads. I gave up and went with a 120.2 on the top instead.
06-12-2009, 12:54 PM
Masterrer

And another update:

did some more work on the case today:
(pics moved to first post)

The tripple rads now fits on top nicely, just needs a bit of work with the mounting brakets.
Cut the hole for the double rad, also need to make some brackets.
Enlarged the PSU hole. Some other misc pieces removed.
06-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Masterrer

And another update:

my project stalled a bit, because of some problems at work (working 2 jobs tends to be pretty :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty sometimes)

But I have some news for you!

Completed the radiator brackets:
120x2:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4557.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4558.jpg
120x3:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4559.jpg

Spent the whole week thinking how to mount the resevoir.
Today finally had time to do some work:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4563.jpg

So, now I have to think how to route the rest of the tubing:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF4570.jpg
I was thinking along the lines:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...er/routing.jpg

But the problem here is that if I route the tubing through the mb i/o plate
I won't be able to use the sliding mobo tray without taking the loop apart :(
And I want to be able to slide out the mobo tray...

I'm having a hard time thinking of a way to pull this off, so I was hoping you guys could rescue me :help:
06-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Bond Number

Quick disconnects? Check Koolance
06-20-2009, 09:35 PM
bot@xs

is that silver coil in the res? retail? where from?
nice case and nice mods so far. i might have added another 240 between the upper and lower chamber. this will be nice when its done
06-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Masterrer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bond Number

Quick disconnects? Check Koolance

Ok thanks, just read a couple of threads about quick disconnects.
And I'm afraid I can't go that route as it would add too much restriction to my loop (and my pump isn't that powerfull to begin with)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaptCrunch

Masterer the pump flow in pic is wrong, the top is outlet and side is inlet.

other then that looks good

:doh: guess I need to RTFM more often...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bot@xs

is that silver coil in the res? retail? where from?
nice case and nice mods so far. i might have added another 240 between the upper and lower chamber. this will be nice when its done

Yes thats silver. Ebay. Thanks! I would also like to stuff as much rad as possible in there, but I'm affraid the PSU leaves little to no room for another rad. Thanks again, I will sure try to do my best!
06-21-2009, 12:53 AM
GrossmeisterB

You could have been fitting two 360-rads there easily!! by just turning them 90° putting them side by side, so it pushes in on the left side of the case and pushes out und the right side...so something like a "super-sandwich" above the PSU ^^
06-21-2009, 01:17 AM
Masterrer

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB

You could have been fitting two 360-rads there easily!! by just turning them 90° putting them side by side, so it pushes in on the left side of the case and pushes out und the right side...so something like a "super-sandwich" above the PSU ^^

Great idea! :up: But after a quick test fit I could only fit a 240 sandwich 90° in there without destroing the case, still better than one 360 rad possibly, but I'm too far into my design to make such drastic changes :(
06-21-2009, 01:58 AM
jagass

Nice case you have there man...
06-21-2009, 03:41 AM
GrossmeisterB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterrer

Great idea! :up: But after a quick test fit I could only fit a 240 sandwich 90° in there without destroing the case, still better than one 360 rad possibly, but I'm too far into my design to make such drastic changes :(

Thanks, you can still do that "sandwich", but you you'd need to cut away nearly half of the top part of the case :D

Or you stack two triples above each other? Maybe that works? I don't have any tests in my mind testing these different setups...or maybe you can add 6 fans to the triple?