3x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 2000CAS8 - Elpida 50mm Hyper X48 DDR3

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06-08-2009, 06:07 AM
eva2000

3x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 2000CAS8 - Elpida 50mm Hyper X48 DDR3
Purchased this kit off these forums back in February 2009 but haven't tested it much as GT kit was keeping me occupied :)

Lots of folks have reported the new Elpida 50mm Hyper IC modules used for the high end triple channel memory kits fairs pretty well for overclocking on X48 DDR3 platform. So decided to check it out with my 3x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 Triple Channel kit (KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX) on Asus Rampage Extreme as my DFI UT X58-T3EH8 is occupied for other tests.

http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...1k3_6gx_01.jpg

http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...1k3_6gx_02.jpg

System:
- E3110 Q750A158
- OCZ Vendetta 2 Air
- Asus Rampage Extreme 1104 bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 3x 2GB Kingston HyperX T1 DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 Triple Channel kit (KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX)
- 1TB Samsung SATAII
- Pioneer 216 DVD-RW
- Corsair HX1000
- WinXP Pro SP3 nLite fully updated
Lots of folks have reported 3x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 Triple Channel kits having a module failure or a poor module within their 3x2GB kit on X58 platform. So I decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak. I will test each 2GB module individually on Rampage Extreme's optimal dimm slots A2+B2. Each 2GB module will be tested on A2 and then B2 dimm slots using quick Memtest86+ v2.11 loop test #5 for 10 passes minimum. Not a stressful test but enough to weed out which 2GB modules are the better of the 3 modules to be paired for dual channel 2x2GB operation on Rampage Extreme.

I used a bit of masking tape to label each 2GB module - #1, #2 and #3 modules respectively.

Results

Results for 8.5x cpu multiplier and main 8-8-8-24 timings on 266FSB Strap 1:2 divider.

At certain frequency subtimings for tRTR_S/RTR_D and tWTW_S/WTW_D had to be reduced to 5/9 for each pair for read to read same and different ranks and write to write same and different ranks respectively to pass test #5 loop. This reduced memtest reported bandwidth by ~10.5%. Still great once you factor in dual channel bandwidth will be higher.

i.e. at 950mhz and 960mhz respectively bandwidth dropped from AUTO subtimings to manually set to above from 6145MB/s to 5500MB/s and 6210MB/s to 5558MB/s.

With looser subtimings for at:
- tRTR_S= 5
- tRTR_D = 9
- tWTW_S = 5
- tWTW_D = 9
- 970mhz = 5616MB/s
- 990mhz = 5732MB/s
- 1000mhz = 5790MB/s
Module #1 in A2 dimm slot
- 940mhz PASSED - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -20.0mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 950mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.72306v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 960mhz FAILED 1PE10 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.73631v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
Module #2 in A2 dimm slot
- 940mhz PASSED - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 950mhz PASSED - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 960mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.72306v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.72306v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 980mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.72306v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 990mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.72306v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1000mhz PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/9 - 1.74956v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv with A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
Module #3 in A2 and B2 dimm slot
- WTF even at 666mhz 8-8-8-24 = DET DDRAM error on POSTLED code couldn't boot system in A2 dimm slot.
- Moved to B2 dimm slot and only after clearing CMOS got CMOS ERROR POSTLED code.
- So installed module #1 in A2 and problematic module #3 in B2 dimm slots and it booted into bios fine after clearing CMOS. SPD values read 9-9-9-24 tRFC 74 with 1.64v default vdimm set by bios.
- So in B2 dimm slot tried 8-8-8-24 and again = DET DDRAM error no boot.
- So in B2 dimm slot change to 9-9-9-24 timinsg and it booted up into memtest fine at 1.67v but to get into windows needed 1.7v but windows seems like it had some graphic/display corruption!
- Down clocked memory to DDR3-1066Mhz 9-9-9-24 and windows didn't have corruption enough to get a screenshot of cpuz spd for both module #1 and #3 together as i wanted to grab the SPDTool profile for them but system rebooted due to module #3 instability before I could open up SPDTool :(
- Looks like module #3 is really a dud :(
Module #3 cut short my tests for B2 dimm slot testing, so will do that later with module #1 and #2 in B2 and update this post with the results later on.

Conclusion:
As you can see module #1 didn't fair that well compared to module #2. At 950mhz it already required the 4 mentioned subtimings to be loosened at least 10mhz earlier/lower than when module #2 needed to touch those subtimings. Module #2 continued to scale all the way to 990Mhz at same vdimm voltage until 1000Mhz which needed vdimm bump from 1.72306v to 1.74956v. I didn't apply much more vdimm over that for 2GB single module testing so as to leave room for when dual channel is tested which will require more vdimm usually. Module #3 on the other hand was a complete dud which I'd deem faulty by any definition :(

As you can see there are differences amongst the 3x 2GB modules even on X48. Will these differences translate over on X58 in triple channel mode ? Are these differences one explanation as to reason some folks reporting these 3x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 2000 CAS8 kits have one module failing or not hitting rated speeds ??

Module #3 was a disappointment and could be reason why on DFI UT X58-T3EH8 i got 4GB detected out of 6GB in a few different module/dimm slot combinations. If the modules were placed in a certain dimm slot configuration, all 6GB was detected at DDR3-2000Mhz 8-8-8-24 on DFI UT X58-T3EH8. Same with certain CPU VTT and VDIMM combinations 6GB was detected instead of 2GB or 4GB (memory tip #6). But didn't test this kit much as Corsair Dominator GT kit was busy on DFI UT X58-T3EH8.

I'd say worth looking into testing each module individually if you are having 3x2GB issues on X58 platform as well. Of course module #3 would be deemed faulty for not running rated timings at least 8-8-8-24 for lowly DDR3-1066mhz to DDR3-1333Mhz underclock!.

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06-09-2009, 05:22 AM
PatRaceTin

wow Kit Mem does not reach same speed
06-09-2009, 10:20 PM
ci2kla

Oh sorry to hear that eva, thx for the test btw and...did you tested that 2 fine modules in dual channel? if yes what did you get from them?:)
06-10-2009, 02:34 AM
eva2000

Yeah same was hoping for some nice dual and triple channel action. Testing 2x2GB on REX right now working on getting 940-950mhz 8-8-8-24 stable - guess module #1 holding back #2 in dual channel heh.
06-10-2009, 02:54 AM
runmc

Since they were second hand :shrug:

Kingston will RMA them in a heartbeat. :up:
06-10-2009, 07:08 AM
George_o/c

George in case you can RMA them like Ron says here, it would be cool to see results from all of them on A2 and B2 slots respectively, so far great :up:
06-10-2009, 08:00 AM
eva2000

Never dealt with Kingston RMA - web site site says only original purchaser has warranty rights ?? What's folks' experiences like for rma with Kingston if you aren't original owner ?

Anyway with remaining 2x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 2000CAS8 Elpida 50mm Hyper modules pretty hard to find stable points even for just HyperPi dual 32M run. So far with skew and other voltage tweaks set, managed to pull off DDR3-1820Mhz 8-8-8-24 AUTO CMD rate is apparently 2T at 1.723v vdimm.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...rpi_32m_x2.png

BIOS : 1104

Code:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual Oc From Cpu Levet Up : Auto Oc From Memory Level Up : Auto FSB Frequency : 455 CPU ratio sitting : 8.5 CPU configuration : --------------------------- : C1E support : disabled Cpu TM function : disabled Max CPUID value limit : disabled Vanderpool technology : disabled Execute disable bit : disabled Core multi-processing : enabled * CPU clock skew : Auto * NB clok skew : Auto FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266FSB PCIE Frequency : 103 DRAM Frequency : DDR3-1823mhz DRAM Command Rate : AUTO DRAM Timing Control : Manual 1ST INFORMATION CAS# latency : : 8 RAS# to CAS# delay : : 8 RAS# PRE time : 8 RAS# ACT time : 24 RAS# to RAS# delay : AUTO REF cycle time : AUTO WRITE recovery time : AUTO READ to PRE time : AUTO 2ND INFORMATION READ to WRITE delay(S/D) : AUTO WRITE to READ delay(S) : AUTO WRITE to READ delay(D) : AUTO READ to READ delay(S) : 9 READ to READ delay(D) : 11 WRITE to WRITE delay(S) : 9 WRITE to WRITE delay(D) : 11 3RD INFORMATION WRITE to PRE delay : AUTO READ to PRE delay : AUTO PRE to PRE delay : AUTO ALL PRE to ACT delay : AUTO ALL PRE to REF delay : AUTO DRAM Static Read Control : disabled or AUTO DRAM Dynamic Write Control : disabled or AUTO DRAM Skew Control : ------------------------------ : DRAM CMD skew on channel A : auto DRAM CLK skew on DIMM A1 : auto DRAM CLK skew on DIMM A2 : advance 300ps DRAM CTL skew on DIMM A1 : auto DRAM CLT skew on DIMM A2 : delay 100ps DRAM CMD skew on channel B : auto DRAM CLK skew on DIMM B1 : auto DRAM CLK skew on DIMM B2 : advance 250ps DRAM CTL skew on DIMM B1 : auto DRAM CTL skew on DIMM B2 : auto Ai Clock Twister: AUTO Ai Transaction Booster: AUTO / -- Manual -- = AUTO Common Performance Level : 08 Pull-in of CHA PH1 : disabled : Pull in of CHA PH2 : disabled : Pull in of CHB PH1 : disabled : Pull in of CHB PH2 : disabled : -- Manual -- EPU II phase control : auto or full phase CPU Voltage : 1.28750v Load-line calibration : Disabled CPU PLL voltage : 1.56406v FSB termination voltage : 1.28566v CPU GTLVref(0) : auto CPU GTLVref(1) : auto CPU GTLVref(2) : auto CPU GTLVref(3) : auto NB GTLVref : auto North bridge voltage : 1.59656v DRAM voltage : 1.72362v NB DDRVref : -17.5mv DDR3 channel A Vref : -02.5mv DDR3 channel B Vref : auto South bridge 1.5 voltage : 1.56406v South bridge 1.05 voltage : 1.06039v CPU spread spectrum : disabled PCIE spread spectrum : disabled Memory Remap Feature: Enabled

not sure how other elpida 50mm hyper compare on Rampage Extreme/X48 DDR3 boards in terms of mhz to vdimm scaling ?
06-10-2009, 07:46 PM
filmbot

I'm ordering a kit tonight and will test on my REX as soon as they arrive. Hopefully will have results by mid to end of next week.

As always, thanks for the very informative memory settings :up:
06-13-2009, 04:32 AM
eva2000

Hope you get better results than me :)
06-15-2009, 07:31 PM
filmbot

Initial results are buggy at best. First I was having problems passing Hyper Pi 1M. It would run and finish all loops but then not give calc done box, same with 32M. Then I tried copying Dsjjangs settings as best as I could (http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpo...48&postcount=1). Eventually I got 1M to give the calc done box but no luck with 32M :( It just sits there then I start getting artifacts everywhere as you can see here

http://i43.tinypic.com/2rmrs75.jpg

I have a few ideas of whats the problem but going to search around some more and see what I can find. Any updates Eva?
06-16-2009, 02:58 AM
eva2000

Well try my bios settings at http://i4memory.com/f83/3x2gb-kingst...3-tests-18365/

for dual channel on Rampage extreme i had to loosen subtimings alot from default 4-7-4-7 to something like 9-11-9-11

READ to READ delay(S) : 9
READ to READ delay(D) : 11
WRITE to WRITE delay(S) : 9
WRITE to WRITE delay(D) : 11

my RMA has been approved by Kingston just need to contact local distributor to arrange replacement kit so will see how the replacements will fair
06-16-2009, 03:09 AM
Lu(ky

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Well try my bios settings at http://i4memory.com/f83/3x2gb-kingst...3-tests-18365/

for dual channel on Rampage extreme i had to loosen subtimings alot from default 4-7-4-7 to something like 9-11-9-11

READ to READ delay(S) : 9
READ to READ delay(D) : 11
WRITE to WRITE delay(S) : 9
WRITE to WRITE delay(D) : 11

my RMA has been approved by Kingston just need to contact local distributor to arrange replacement kit so will see how the replacements will fair

Nice eva2000 I am looking forward to your review of the DFI JR X58-T3H6 - MicroATX with this memory. I have 2 kits of it sitting here.. Still wondering if I should go Asus Gene or DFI JR.. I wait for your review.. ;)
06-16-2009, 09:14 AM
filmbot

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Well try my bios settings at http://i4memory.com/f83/3x2gb-kingst...3-tests-18365/

for dual channel on Rampage extreme i had to loosen subtimings alot from default 4-7-4-7 to something like 9-11-9-11

READ to READ delay(S) : 9
READ to READ delay(D) : 11
WRITE to WRITE delay(S) : 9
WRITE to WRITE delay(D) : 11

my RMA has been approved by Kingston just need to contact local distributor to arrange replacement kit so will see how the replacements will fair

Will try that tonight when I get home. Seems 3oh6 is interested in this same setup and may be coming through here in a few days to discuss. If so, you guys are some of the best memory tweakers out there and should figure this out :up:

EDIT: Forgot to say I'm on 1201, going to switch back to 1104 so I can get DIMM skew adjustments, see if that helps at all.
06-16-2009, 09:17 AM
TheKarmakazi

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

my RMA has been approved by Kingston just need to contact local distributor to arrange replacement kit so will see how the replacements will fair

Good to hear :up:
06-16-2009, 06:26 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu(ky

Nice eva2000 I am looking forward to your review of the DFI JR X58-T3H6 - MicroATX with this memory. I have 2 kits of it sitting here.. Still wondering if I should go Asus Gene or DFI JR.. I wait for your review.. ;)

Yup next up is DFI JR X58 testing - lots to read and learn first hehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by filmbot

Will try that tonight when I get home. Seems 3oh6 is interested in this same setup and may be coming through here in a few days to discuss. If so, you guys are some of the best memory tweakers out there and should figure this out :up:

EDIT: Forgot to say I'm on 1201, going to switch back to 1104 so I can get DIMM skew adjustments, see if that helps at all.

haven't tried 1201 only 1104 myself.. but the skew and nb ddr vref adjustments I mentioned was key to even getting DDR3-1600Mhz 8-8-8-24 stable in memtest! One right settings were made - pushing to DDR3-1820-1900Mhz 8-8-8-24 in memtest was fine although 2x32m pi managed only DDR3-1820mhz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

Good to hear :up:

Yup RA approved, so sending back modules today - if lucky should have replacements next week :)
06-26-2009, 01:13 AM
eva2000

My RMA replacements arrived today - minus the original box packaging hehe

http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...IMGP2337tn.jpg http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...IMGP2338tn.jpg
http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...MGP2340tnn.jpg http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...MGP2346tnn.jpg

Fingers crossed :)

Bit of info from Kingston regarding the labels on modules - interesting to see the results of Kingston 2000C8 in relation to their serial numbers :)

http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...eid_serial.png
06-26-2009, 08:31 AM
KILLER_K

Hope this kit works 100%, let us know what happens.
06-27-2009, 03:28 AM
eva2000
RMA Replacement
Individual 2GB Kingston 2000C8 Tests

Clearly, you can see that the replacement kit is much better and working very nicely for Vdimm required as well.

Same Memtest86+ v2.11 test #5 10x loops with reported bandwidth and settings used. For initial tests trying to keep VDIMM as close to 1.65v rated volts first - the aim is to see how high I can clock the memory without errors at such VDIMM voltage.

For failed passed, short hand 1PE38 = 1st pass 38 errors

8-8-8-24 timings
CPU FSB = 1.27241v
CPU PLL = SB = 1.53756v

Module #1 in A2 dimm slot
- 920mhz 5951MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57v NB
- 930mhz 6016MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 940mhz 6080MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 950mhz 6145MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 960mhz 6210MB/s FAILED 1PE38 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 960mhz 6210MB/s FAILED 1PE18 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 960mhz 5558MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 980mhz 5674MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 990mhz 5732MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1010mhz 5848MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1020mhz 5906MB/s FAILED 2PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.68351v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
Module #2 in A2 dimm slot
- 920mhz 5951MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.55v NB
- 930mhz 6016MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 940mhz 6080MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 950mhz 6145MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 300ps
- 960mhz 6210MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 980mhz 5674MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 990mhz 5732MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 1010mhz 5848MB/s FAILED 1PE88 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
Module #3 in A2 dimm slot
- 920mhz 5951MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.55v NB
- 930mhz 6016MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 940mhz 6080MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 950mhz 6145MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
- 960mhz 6210MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 6275MB/s FAILED 1PE72 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 1PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 4PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -20.0mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 2PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -22.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 7PE2 & 11PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.61697v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 1PE16 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.63072v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s FAILED 1PE2 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.59047v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 970mhz 5616MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps
- 980mhz 5674MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 990mhz 5732MB/s FAILED 1PE18 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 990mhz 5732MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE12 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE14 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 125ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE16 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.61697v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE22 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 75ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE4 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps, CPU Clock kew = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE28 tRTR_S/RTR_D 6/9 tWTW_S/WTW_D 6/9 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE16 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps, FSB Strap = 333FSB
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s FAILED 1PE18 tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.60372v NB, NB DDRVREF -17.5mv, A2 Clk Skew = Advance 350ps A2 CTL Skew = Delay 100ps, FSB Strap = 400FSB
Module #3 seems to be the tricky one again falling short of 1000Mhz 8-8-8-24 and requiring a bit more in terms of Skew tweaking needing CTL Skew Delay 100ps from 970-990mhz. Although in terms #3 module handled tighter sub timings for tRTR_S/RTR_D and tWTW_S/WTW_D than module #1 where up to 960mhz it was like module #2.

Granted this kit wasn't validated on X48 chipset and is meant for triple channel, so guess we shall see how the entire kit performs on Core i7/X58 platform later on :)

System:
- E3110 Q750A158
- OCZ Vendetta 2 Air
- Asus Rampage Extreme 1104 bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 3x 2GB Kingston HyperX T1 DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 Triple Channel kit (KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX)
- 1TB Samsung SATAII
- Pioneer 216 DVD-RW
- 1KW PCP Cooling SLI
- WinXP Pro SP3 nLite fully updated
06-27-2009, 10:26 PM
ci2kla

Very well organised testing report! :up:
Seems the X48 has reached it's limits.
Are you testing those kits in dual channel?
06-27-2009, 10:35 PM
eva2000

Dual channel is next then X58/triple channel :D
06-28-2009, 12:52 AM
Leeghoofd

Excellent testing as always George, you're the REAL RAM GUY !!

On monday I should get a Kingston 2000C8 set, will test them on my Gene II ( at the moment at 2200mhz with the Blades at 8-9-8-24 )
06-28-2009, 01:19 AM
eva2000
Thanks wish you all the best with your kit :)

Update: For dual channel it seems module #1 is best in A2 Dimm slot and #2 would be best candidate for B2 Dimm slot, so tested module #2 in B2 Dimm slot and surprised by the result of how it handled tighter tRTR_S/RTR_D and tWTW_S/WTW_D timings (default 4/7 and 4/7 respectively) all the way up to 980Mhz 8-8-8-24!

Module #2 in B2 dimm slot
- 920mhz 5951MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.55v NB
- 930mhz 6016MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.55v NB
- 940mhz 6080MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.55v NB
- 950mhz 6145MB/s FAILED 1PE2 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB
- 950mhz 6145MB/s FAILED 1PE12 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Advance 200ps
- 950mhz 6145MB/s FAILED 1PE12 - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Advance 25ps
- 950mhz 6145MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Delay 100ps
- 960mhz 6210MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Delay 100ps
- 970mhz 6275MB/s PASSED - 1.65681v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Delay 100ps
- 980mhz 6339MB/s PASSED - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, B2 CLK = Delay 100ps
- 990mhz 6404MB/s FAILED 1PE4 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, NB DDRVREF -10.0mv, B2 CLK = Delay 100ps
- 1000mhz 5790MB/s PASSED tRTR_S/RTR_D 5/8 tWTW_S/WTW_D 5/8 - 1.67006v vdimm, 1.57722v NB, NB DDRVREF -10.0mv, B2 Clk Skew = Delay 100ps
06-28-2009, 06:38 AM
eva2000

Dual Channel

Testing module #1 (A2 dimm slot) + #2 (B2 dimm slot) for dual channel on Asus Rampage Extreme and looking very good so far without needing to sacrifice any subtiming tight timings for tRTR_S/RTR_D and tWTW_S/WTW_D.

266FSB Strap
FSB = 1.27241v
NB = 1.60372v
VDIMM = 1.65681v
NB Vref = -17.5mv
A2 Clk Skew = Advance 250ps
B2 Clk Skew = Delay 100ps

DDR3-1880Mhz 8-8-8-24 tRFC 88

http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...el_memtest.jpg
06-29-2009, 02:57 AM
eva2000

Looking pretty good for 2x2GB Kingston 2000C8 dual channel @DDR3-1900Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T for single Super Pi 32M at least. As expected needed slightly more NB and vdimm voltage compared to same memory frequencies for single 2GB module testing.

2T vs 1T - memtest86+ v2.11 reported bandwidth difference was 6953Mhz vs 7210Mhz.

2T
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...1m16s062ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...mv/everest.png

1T
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...1m11s140ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...mv/everest.png

Didn't have to touch tRTR_S/RTR_D and tWTW_S/WTW_D timings at all from auto :)

@DDR3-2042Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T

At same vdimm 1.67006v bios validation @DDR3-2042Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/595043.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...cpuz_valid.png
06-29-2009, 10:55 PM
Leeghoofd

Currently burning them in C7-7-7-24 1.6Vdimm at 1800mhz

http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/Kingsto...burnin1800.jpg
06-30-2009, 01:42 AM
eva2000
nice.. testing cas7 myself too :)

2x2GB Kingston HyperX DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 (Elpida Hyper)
Dual Channel @7-7-7-21 1T
Seems 7-7-7-21 timings are easier to scale than 8-8-8-24 for this memory on Asus Rampage Extreme. DDR3-1952Mhz coincidentally is the highest memory frequency I've managed for Super Pi 32M on Asus Rampage Extreme so far. My Micron D9GTR/Samsung HCF0 seem to top out around 950-964mhz for 32M Pi.

Also 1T gives approximately 270MB/s more memtest86+ v2.11 memory bandwidth than 2T at same memory frequencies in dual channel mode.

Max CPUZ Validation @DDR3-2026Mhz 7-7-7-21 1T at 1.68331v bios

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/595524.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...cpuz_valid.png

Max Super Pi v1.5 & v.16
@DDR3-1952Mhz 7-7-7-21 1T at 1.68331v bios

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...0m47s359ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...0m46s672ms.png

Everest Ultimate Bandwidth

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Ram...mv/everest.png

System:
- E3110 Q750A158
- OCZ Vendetta 2 Air
- Asus Rampage Extreme 1104 bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 3x 2GB Kingston HyperX T1 DDR3-2000Mhz CAS8 Triple Channel kit (KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX) - using 2x2GB of the kit
- 1TB Samsung SATAII
- Pioneer 216 DVD-RW
- 1KW PCP Cooling SLI
- WinXP Pro SP3 nLite fully updated
06-30-2009, 02:05 AM
Leeghoofd

Memtesting 950Mhz now C7 1.63Vdimm (had to loosen TRFC to 90 and up QPI to 1.39 to avoid it erroring ), I saw a 3GB review at hardwarelogic, they did 1866 with C6 but I don't see much proof, CPU-Z and co is nice, without a test screen it doesn't means much to me...

http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/Kingsto...burnin1900.jpg

Can't wait to get my Rampage Extreme going again... PL7 is so sexy

EDIT : errorred at 72%, will test 8-8-8-24 from now, one stick down :( ow boy
06-30-2009, 05:57 AM
Viss

Mine did 7-8-7-20-1T 1000mhz when i just got them at 1,67v. One of the sticks needs 1,69v for the same clocks now..

click
06-30-2009, 06:07 AM
runmc

Yeah you really need to go easy on the juice with these chips. They may not last to long if you don't.
Way to go George :up:
06-30-2009, 09:05 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

Mine did 7-8-7-20-1T 1000mhz when i just got them at 1,67v. One of the sticks needs 1,69v for the same clocks now..

click

hopefully it doesn't get any worse

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Yeah you really need to go easy on the juice with these chips. They may not last to long if you don't.
Way to go George :up:

yeah such delicate things.. hope my replacements aren't so delicate... my GT 2000C7 are rock solid handle 1.93v vdimm no probs and still running heh