asus 4gb gtx295

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ASUS has just designed a new monster graphics card that breaks the mold for reference design GeForce GTX 295, called the ASUS MARS 295 Limited Edition. The card, although retains the name "GeForce GTX 295", same device ID, and is compatible with existing NVIDIA drivers, has two huge innovations put in by ASUS, which go far beyond being yet another overclocked GeForce GTX 295: the company used two G200-350-B3 graphics processors, the same ones that make the GeForce GTX 285. The GPUs have all the 240 shader processors enabled, and also have the complete 512-bit GDDR3 memory interface enabled. This dual-PCB monstrosity holds 32 memory chips, and 4 GB of total memory (each GPU accesses 2 GB of it). Apart from these, each GPU system uses the same exact clock speeds as the GeForce GTX 285: 648/1476/2400 MHz...


http://www.techpowerup.com/95445/ASU...hics_Card.html


dual pcb memory madness!!
2x 8-pin power

Wow, thats a monster!

OMG...I was just thinking about 3xGTX 285 2GB...and now this...

But can it play Crysis? ;)

Yes saw this at TPU not too long ago and went WOW.

Thing is awesome. Being a limited edition, it's going to expensive therefore ASUS can go jump. :)

if theres a card which can do it, this is it

quad sli gtx285 2gb anyone?

Only 1000 being made. It's one heck of a cards and probably expensive as sin.

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But can it play Crysis? ;)

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On topic, looks awesome. I wonder how 4 gigs will help and can it actually be taken advantage of?

Wow... What a beast!! :p:

Scored X25,057 in Vantage...

She is a runner! :shock:

and 10,000 people JUST at Xs sitting there with terminal wood looking at this card!:rofl:

We need benchmarks!!!

It might not be much of an improvement over the existing 2gig cards.

Just ordered two..:rofl:..J/K

I would take 1, with a single 285 running dedicated PhysX. :p:

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

We need benchmarks!!!

It might not be much of an improvement over the existing 2gig cards.

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Here is a quick test done without any insulation on the cards, pots around negative 40. CPU running very safe. Done in under 20 mins to avoid hardware damage.

http://www.kinc.se/X25k.jpg

http://www.kinc.se/mars3.jpg

This is the new way to the top of the benchmarks then and despite the no-doubt horrific price will be a "must-have" for any serious bencher



4GB GDDR.....

With some custom software, its technically possible to install games directly onto your GPU...how sweet is that? :D

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Here is a quick test done without any insulation on the cards. CPU running very safe and gpu-pot temp is around -40C. Done in under 20 mins to avoid hardware damage.

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I never pay attention to synthetic benches(so I am not able to draw any meaning from that score), so how does that compare to other cards with only 2gig of Ram?

Other 295's, or other 285's in SLI?

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Originally Posted by Talonman

Other 295's, or other 285's in SLI?

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I was thinking of single card solutions be it the GTX295 or the 4870x2, but not any SLI scores.

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

I never pay attention to synthetic benches(so I am not able to draw any meaning from that score), so how does that compare to other cards with only 2gig of Ram?

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It is hard to tell since MARS has a 512-bit interface and for 3DMark that is the most important thing to note here, there is no card to compare it to. But ultra settings for high quality texture games like Crysis or GTA4 it will show a performance gain (in a quad-sli config). Especially compared to the generic 295 with 896MB.

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

I was thinking of single card solutions be it the GTX295 or the 4870x2, but not any SLI scores.

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This card is (2) 285's in SLI... (with more RAM)

Can i have some :shocked:

ohhhhh 2 x 295 scored X24k, that makes a lot more sense :rofl:, I was thinking like WTF 2 gpus and x24k????


they should call this the GTX 299.9999 :p:

I want two of those. Too bad they'll be stupidly expensive. This is what the GTX295 should have been though. Now.. what is HWBot going to consider these cards :D

Wow. With full 512bit mem interface and standard GTX 285 clock speeds this monster should be at least 15%-20% ahead of stock GTX 295. Very impressive engineering work by Asus. I think I've got a RAGGING CLUE on whose working on 1Ghz HD 4890x2 :D

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

This is what the GTX295 should have been:D

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+1 :)

only 830 gpu clocks on ln2? thats not the max right marcus? :D
very nice! thats something really unique and faster than anything we have and will have for another 6 months if not more... very impressive...
keep in mind that once gt300 comes out, it will probably perform about the same as this dual gtx285 card and not faster... so despite the lack of dx11, this is pretty much gt300 right there :D

i heard the price will be 699$ more or less?
will there be watercooled versions? maybe 100 of those 1000 could be LELE with waterblocks? :D

EDIT: how about ocp mods? will the default gtx285 ocp mod work on these?
that would be another big plus compared to the standard 295! :D

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Originally Posted by saaya

only 830 gpu clocks on ln2? thats not the max right marcus? :D
very nice! thats something really unique and faster than anything we have and will have for another 6 months if not more... very impressive...
keep in mind that once gt300 comes out, it will probably perform about the same as this dual gtx285 card and not faster... so despite the lack of dx11, this is pretty much gt300 right there :D

i heard the price will be 699$ more or less?
will there be watercooled versions? maybe 100 of those 1000 could be LELE with waterblocks? :D

EDIT: how about ocp mods? will the default gtx285 ocp mod work on these?
that would be another big plus compared to the standard 295! :D

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i'd wager it uses the same board as standard 295, so i'd doubt it.

/drool

It´s madness, 4GB for a card? This is realy big stuff for Win 32bit OS :rofl:

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

they should call this the GTX 299.9999 :p:

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I wish it would have a name other than the 295, and EVGA made one...

I still have Step Up time, but you can't step from a 295, to another 295.

It really is (2) 285's in sli with more RAM. They should have picked a new number other than 295.

Awesome card, but only worth it if your gonna get 2 for quad SLI, chances are it will be more expensive then 2 separate 2gb GTX 285's :P

Holy Jeebus.

Isn't this essentially the same as the ATI GTFO edition someone photoshopped?

Thats a VERY nice video card!

i need it! this is a monster ... i like

No real point going after this one if you have free PCI Express slots IMO, I'd rather buy 2x 285. Easier to cool those for sure. And probably cheaper...

:banana::banana::banana::banana: me.

the only practical reason for this card is for some crazy sckt 775 performance on an intel chipset board

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Originally Posted by LardArse

Thats a VERY nice video card!

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+1 :shocked:

This card will be at the top of the benching world until the new stuff gets here.

they should have just called it the "benchmark edition" with only 1000 being made.

so no one has problem with being 2GBiter ? :shakes:

2megs memory is more than enough!

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Thats a VERY nice video card!

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It's soooooooooo nice, would be even better with an EVGA logo on it. :D

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Originally Posted by K404

With some custom software, its technically possible to install games directly onto your GPU...how sweet is that? :D

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umm not much point really.. it will be quite slow

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Here is a quick test done without any insulation on the cards, pots around negative 40. CPU running very safe. Done in under 20 mins to avoid hardware damage.

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OMG X25K on extreme preset!!! :slobber::slobber:

Did that break the record??

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Wow. With full 512bit mem interface and standard GTX 285 clock speeds this monster should be at least 15%-20% ahead of stock GTX 295. Very impressive engineering work by Asus. I think I've got a RAGGING CLUE on whose working on 1Ghz HD 4890x2 :D

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Also it has 32 ROPs per GPU, the real 295 only has 28.

I'm glad they kept some of the VHS look!

This is a Quadro FX Card with a desktop bios pretty much.

I would still want to see how this does against 2GB cards in games with large textures.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by saaya

only 830 gpu clocks on ln2? thats not the max right marcus? :D
very nice! thats something really unique and faster than anything we have and will have for another 6 months if not more... very impressive...
keep in mind that once gt300 comes out, it will probably perform about the same as this dual gtx285 card and not faster... so despite the lack of dx11, this is pretty much gt300 right there :D

i heard the price will be 699$ more or less?
will there be watercooled versions? maybe 100 of those 1000 could be LELE with waterblocks? :D

EDIT: how about ocp mods? will the default gtx285 ocp mod work on these?
that would be another big plus compared to the standard 295! :D

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No, I didnt insulate, just a 20 min run to get a score :)

epic

can't wait for gt300 x2 xD

Can you Quad-sli them?

Quad GTX 285's FTW!

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Originally Posted by saaya

i heard the price will be 699$ more or less?

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Can you say where from? :)

I would love to know the official price.

wonder who gets card number 666/1000, that would be cool :D.

This card.. wow... just sad that its exacly what we need, and only a 1000 will be made

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Originally Posted by Vivi2

wonder who gets card number 666/1000, that would be cool :D.

This card.. wow... just sad that its exacly what we need, and only a 1000 will be made

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sure if you worship the devil

only asus?

evga? others?

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sure if you worship the devil

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I would rather get #7. ;)

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Originally Posted by NapalmV5

only asus?

evga? others?

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It's a rogue venture by ASUS themselves.

Evga might follow suite since they can't seem to live with themselves unless they're on top of everything that has to do with nvidia.

Yo evga, make me a custom red one!:cool:

How many amps does it require?

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sure if you worship the devil

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:rofl:

This card looks a bit plain for an ASUS card. They always seem to like putting demonic ninjas and other weird :banana::banana::banana::banana: on the coolers. They need to spice it up!

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and 10,000 people JUST at Xs sitting there with terminal wood looking at this card!:rofl:

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you right......everybody here is seaching this card.... Please god.....just seend me that card.....and I will buy a chernobyl plant to use it :p :p

love the look of this card

I must say I'd buy 2 if they were readily available. I wonder if the current 295 waterblocks would fit them...

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sure if you worship the devil

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why say that

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http://www.kinc.se/mars3.jpg

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Seriously.. what is that second fan above the cpu pot attached to? It looks like a flying saucer

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Seriously.. what is that second fan above the cpu pot attached to? It looks like a flying saucer

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it is blowing on the PWM heatsink :D

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i'd wager it uses the same board as standard 295, so i'd doubt it.

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how? the default 295 pcb is not 512bit... and no, look at the shape of the pcb, i dont think its the same pcb

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

the only practical reason for this card is for some crazy sckt 775 performance on an intel chipset board

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good point... either that or quadsli... otherwise 2 gtx285 cards in sli will probably clock better, or at least cost less, notably less :D

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Originally Posted by Kinc

No, I didnt insulate, just a 20 min run to get a score :)

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sweet, so this is far from the top... cant wait for some serious action... too bad you wont be at computex... but i take it you will clock these during computex time? or when can we expect new world records? :D

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Seriously.. what is that second fan above the cpu pot attached to? It looks like a flying saucer

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its sitting on one of the screws of the pot :D

wow monster card indeed... wish i had 2 of them for some fun hehe

The mainstream standard today is 512Mb GDDR, so most games are designed with this in mind (you might have to lower the settings depending on the game etc..)

I dont know if theres any game, even on a 30" and 8x AA that actually uses more than 1Gb GDDR....The bottleneck is usually elsewhere, other than vRAM capacity (1gb).

I cant envision 1Gb per GPU being an bottleneck, much less 2Gb x2. Whe the time comes that >1Gb is used by games the gtx295 march will be obsolete imo.

I may be out of the loop but I think its just for average joe braggin rights.

Do any review show improvements with 2Gb ram per GPU over 1Gb ? Including multi card extreme setup and game settings ?

Amazing bit of kit.

What the 295 should have been from the beginning, without a doubt.


The large 2gb per chip could be great for high aa+tex in quad sli or cuda related work.

Does this use Solid State parts to eliminate the whine coming from the chokes that is quite audible over the sound of the fan (and the rest of the computer's fans) that starts to happen and gets louder when under increasing load?

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The mainstream standard today is 512Mb GDDR, so most games are designed with this in mind (you might have to lower the settings depending on the game etc..)

I dont know if theres any game, even on a 30" and 8x AA that actually uses more than 1Gb GDDR....The bottleneck is usually elsewhere, other than vRAM capacity (1gb).

I cant envision 1Gb per GPU being an bottleneck, much less 2Gb x2. Whe the time comes that >1Gb is used by games the gtx295 march will be obsolete imo.

I may be out of the loop but I think its just for average joe braggin rights.

Do any review show improvements with 2Gb ram per GPU over 1Gb ? Including multi card extreme setup and game settings ?

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your out of the loop, more frame buffer helps a lot in sli. dont ask me why, but it helps, quite significantly, in high res in AA sli...

btw, the card doesnt use nf200! LOL

thats really interesting :D
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-05-28/2a.jpg
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-05-28/2b.jpg

5phase digital pwm per gpu! thats 2 phases more than the 295 dual or single pcb! :banana:

PLX or Lucid Hydra?

Yes... By what means do the 2 cards communicate?

seems to be smaller than the plx chip on 4870x2... could be a new chip though

PLX
IDT
Hydra

could be any of those 3... but i think most likely its plx...

So this card is all differnt kinds of pawnage... it really is a shame about the suspected-expected price.

seems to be smaller than the plx chip on 4870x2... could be a new chip though

PLX
IDT
Hydra

could be any of those 3... but i think most likely its plx...

How fast is PLX, when compared with SLI? :)

its the same... i have yet to see nf200 do more than act as a pciE switch, which plx and idt can do too... :shrug:

Thanks... :)

Damn nice card. Asus must also apply a step up program, like eVGA, along with this card to get one :)

I'll pre order it for $600, everybody can dream right :D

:hump:

I'm speechless...

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This is what the GTX295 should have been.

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It's a shame that nVidia did not have "The balls" or "Can O' Whoopass" to release this Monster of a Card as the reference GTX295 Design. I think it might even give the 4890X2 a run for it's money....
But being this late and mega expensive (and extremely rare) I cannot see many of them being shifted as eyes will start to turn towards the first DirectX11 GPU's
Good effort by ASUS.... now if only BFG and eVGA did the same :up:
John

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your out of the loop, more frame buffer helps a lot in sli. dont ask me why, but it helps, quite significantly, in high res in AA sli...

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"Dont ask me why" is a heck of a reason to state that it helps and im out of the loop :p:

No revire/article I've read showed improvements going from 1Gb to 2Gb per chip, meaning the bottleneck was somewhere alse.

1Gb is not even fully utilized yet in almost every game... According to all what I've read most games are fine with 512Mb, with a few of them requiring 1Gb, mostly at high res w/ AA.

I would like to see factual evidence before I believe 2Gb per chip will bring any improvements over 1Gb in games.

Anyone care to point me some reviews/articles showing otherwise ?

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Originally Posted by Tonucci

"Dont ask me why" is a heck of a reason to state that it helps and im out of the loop :p:

No revire/article I've read showed improvements going from 1Gb to 2Gb per chip, meaning the bottleneck was somewhere alse.

1Gb is not even fully utilized yet in almost every game... According to all what I've read most games are fine with 512Mb, with a few of them requiring 1Gb, mostly at high res w/ AA.

I would like to see factual evidence before I believe 2Gb per chip will bring any improvements over 1Gb in games.

Anyone care to point me some reviews/articles showing otherwise ?

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screw all you guys with tiny monitors! at 2560x1600 the more video memory the better!

Looks like a coffin of heat

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screw all you guys with tiny monitors! at 2560x1600 the more video memory the better!

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Show me reputable hardware sites reviews or articles results showing improvements over 1Gb per chip even on a 30" with AA pleeeeeaaase :rolleyes:

Word of mouth dont really convince me hmmk :D

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Originally Posted by Tonucci

"Dont ask me why" is a heck of a reason to state that it helps and im out of the loop :p:

No revire/article I've read showed improvements going from 1Gb to 2Gb per chip, meaning the bottleneck was somewhere alse.

1Gb is not even fully utilized yet in almost every game... According to all what I've read most games are fine with 512Mb, with a few of them requiring 1Gb, mostly at high res w/ AA.

I would like to see factual evidence before I believe 2Gb per chip will bring any improvements over 1Gb in games.

Anyone care to point me some reviews/articles showing otherwise ?

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k, my bad, i should have been more detailled :D
check anandtechs dual tri quad sli/xfire articles, same for xbitlabs, and youll see that xfire and sli scale a lot better with 1gb over 512mb cards, and with 1gb cards there is much less or no stuttering too. thats with 2 cards... with 3 cards you see that scaling drops for the same games that needed more than 512mb to scale well with 2 cards... its no proof, but it looked pretty clear to me back when i read those articles that having more than 1gb does help in tri and quad sli, and possibly even dual vga setups at high res and high aa.

i dont think asus slapped that much mem on there just for the sake of it, they must be sure that it either helps now or will most likely help soon... same with all the 1.8gb cards that several nvidia partners have launched a while ago.

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Originally Posted by Tonucci

Show me reputable hardware sites reviews or articles results showing improvements over 1Gb per chip even on a 30" with AA pleeeeeaaase :rolleyes:

Word of mouth dont really convince me hmmk :D

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mhhhh googled but couldnt find much, seems nobody has compared the new 1.8gb 260 cards with the older .9gb 260 cards in sli, let alone tri sli.... :/

all i found was this:
gtx260 896mb vs 1792mb
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-82...vs-1792MB.html

wic+coh show a boost that is too big to be a result of clockspeeds... its not much but its a hint that some games use more than 1gb in high res with high aa, and in sli that limitation should be bigger.

Im guilty of running an oc'ed 4850 1Gb on a small monitor, therefore im no vMEM overkill hater ok :D

Just saying that I've not seen anithing showing 2Gb improvements over 1Gb so far, even triple SLI on a 30" w/ AA.

I recon it may help in a select few scenarious and makes it more future proof :up:

quad sli will be even more expensive then gtx295 standard quad sli

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screw all you guys with tiny monitors! at 2560x1600 the more video memory the better!

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its still going to be a very long time before that resolution becomes standard. 1920x1200 or 1080 is under $300, but 2560x1600 is still over $1000. i was gonna get one of those gateway 30" when the price came down to about $700, but they were discontinued (lowest was $940), and now the other ones are overpriced $1200, and they havnt come down in price for the last 6 months. no idea why these are so damn stubborn to move down like the rest of technology does.

I want a 40" 2560x1600 :D

is it out yet?

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its still going to be a very long time before that resolution becomes standard. 1920x1200 or 1080 is under $300, but 2560x1600 is still over $1000. i was gonna get one of those gateway 30" when the price came down to about $700, but they were discontinued (lowest was $940), and now the other ones are overpriced $1200, and they havnt come down in price for the last 6 months. no idea why these are so damn stubborn to move down like the rest of technology does.

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What do you expect when one requires Dual-link DVI and the other one doesn't.
No TV supports 2560x1600 for the same reason.

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What do you expect when one requires Dual-link DVI and the other one doesn't.
No TV supports 2560x1600 for the same reason.

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4x the price for 1.4x the panel size, cost should not be more than double even if limited units are being created. And almost every video card has duel link dvi, and theve had them for years. but NO tv has any cable that will run such a resolution anyway, not a good idea to compare the two. the industry will adjust as things become more mainstream, and duel link dvi is mainstream, but 1000$ monitors are not, for a reason of their own, not cause other products are lacking anything.

its not just panel SIZE though, its panel quality too....all the 2560x1600 monitors use IPS panels and IPS 1920x1200's are still 5-600 bucks...technically it is pretty much double

also, im pretty sure 2560x1600 30" has higher pixel density than 1920x1200 24" (aka DPI?)...higher density = lower yield for LCD glass manufacturers = higher price...also have to take that into account

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its not just panel SIZE though, its panel quality too....all the 2560x1600 monitors use IPS panels and IPS 1920x1200's are still 5-600 bucks...technically it is pretty much double

also, im pretty sure 2560x1600 30" has higher pixel density than 1920x1200 24" (aka DPI?)...higher density = lower yield for LCD glass manufacturers = higher price...also have to take that into account

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yup, pretty much sums it up.

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And almost every video card has duel link dvi, and theve had them for years. but NO tv has any cable that will run such a resolution anyway

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Are you guys forgetting a little something called HDMI?

DVI ftl :p:

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I want a 40" 2560x1600 :D

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That's the holy grail right there, well 50" for me but yeah.

2gb vs 1gb @ 1920x1080 - cnc generals zero hour never looked better

and the 2gb gtx285 does more particles/detail/load than the 1gb gtx285

i aint going back to 1gbs ill keepem around for "physics"

2gb: perfect for rts games :toast: