Samsung Shows Off 24 SSDs In RAID 0 = 2GB/s Throughput

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03-09-2009, 01:09 PM
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Samsung Shows Off 24 SSDs In RAID 0 = 2GB/s Throughput

Check out the Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&fmt=22

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It wasn't all that long ago when a mere nine SSD drives in a RAID array was enough to cause most folks' jaws to drop, but the world of ridiculous technology exercises moves quickly, and we can only be thankful that a select few continually feel the need to one-up each other and share their results with all of us.

This latest effort comes from a group enlisted by Samsung (in a not too thinly disguised marketing exercise), who paired up 24 SSDs in a RAID array totaling 6TB in size. Even more impressive than that, however, is the 2GB per second throughput speed they managed to achieve, which they naturally spared no expense in demonstrating -- as you can see in the video after the break.

P.S. Technical:

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they custom-built an 8-core, triple-RAID, Windows Vista system, utilizing 24 256GB MLC SSDs, for a total of 6TB of storage.

Their system used an Intel Skulltrail D5400XS motherboard, with two Intel 3.2GHz QX9775 Quad-Core processors, 4GB of 800MHz FB-DIMM DDR2 SDRAM, two ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 graphics cards, an Adaptec 5 Series RAID card, an Areca 1680ix-24 RAID card, and two Corsair HX1000W power supply units. And, of course, 24 Samsung SSDs.

It also took them several iterations of setting up the RAID controllers until they had a configuration that didn't saturate the controllers. They finally settled on a configuration that had 10 of the SSDs conntect to the Areca RAID controller, 8 of SSDs connected to the Adaptec 5 Series controller, and 6 of the SSDs connected directly to the motherboard. This resulted in three separate RAID 0 arrays.

The optical drives were disconnected during testing to maximize available throughput for the on-board SATA ports. All testing was done at stock speeds, although they did experiment with some overclocking "for the fun of it"--the system remained stable with the CPUs running up 3.6GHz; and they even got it up to 4GHz, but at that speed the system was "wobbly."

http://hothardware.com/News/24-Samsu...er-for-2GBSec/

Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/09/2...rcomputer-fun/
03-09-2009, 01:12 PM
Yil

Great Video!!!

700mb dvd rip in 0.8 sec!!!!!!!! EXTREME

Gr Yil
03-09-2009, 01:16 PM
ToTTenTranz

Wow.. it could be used as regular system memory..
03-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Blauhung

hehe, if only the price tag on that setup wasn't so huge. But yes, that is xtreme
03-09-2009, 01:32 PM
ILikeCosmosS

how do u get 24 sata raid controller thats like 2 grand right there and then 800 dollar each HDD x24 thats some expensive build with 2 processors
03-09-2009, 01:47 PM
metachronos

Just watched the youtube vid, insanity.
03-09-2009, 01:56 PM
Firestrider

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Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Wow.. it could be used as regular system memory..

It could but it would be a lot slower..

Even dual-channel DDR2-800 is 6x faster.
03-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Psykocyber

Be right back, off too the bank to lend some money.

Awesome work :up:
03-09-2009, 02:07 PM
Skyline GT-R

This realy is insane, but image, in a couple of years we'll all have drives with those speeds :drool:
03-09-2009, 02:24 PM
Aerwidh

Now that's fast! :shocked:
03-09-2009, 02:29 PM
Soulburner

They hit 1GB/s with only 9 drives, not bad.
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Buckeye

HAHA I love it, Great Video :rofl:

Lets see I only need 15 more MTRONS and a bigger Raid Card.... :shocked:
03-09-2009, 03:37 PM
Biker

He he he

I loved the integrity test :)

Dammit I only have 16 drives here and I also need a bigger raid card :D
03-09-2009, 03:51 PM
HotGore

I just jizzed in my pants.
03-09-2009, 04:31 PM
B.E.E.F.

:slobber:
03-09-2009, 04:42 PM
clo007

Niceeeeeeeeeeee
03-09-2009, 04:44 PM
inCore

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Originally Posted by Biker

Dammit I only have 16 drives here and I also need a bigger raid card :D

I have one, I have three broken ones in my cupboard. This is a bad trend to notice without the intention of buying a new HDD. :p:
03-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Trouffman

ahah I just watched the video ^^ so funny !
03-09-2009, 04:59 PM
Swatrecon_

Wow. Really nice. :cool:
03-09-2009, 05:05 PM
[XC] gomeler

Cute. Now if only they had SAS drives and a controller with the grunt to push 2+GB/s. I imagine 2GB/s could have been managed with 18 drives.
03-09-2009, 05:08 PM
Loque

Best integrity test ever !

Thats a lot of cash to build that machine, wonder if Samsung bought everything or it was the marketing department :p
03-09-2009, 05:13 PM
BrokeDown

Where did the 6TB of storage come from?
03-09-2009, 05:15 PM
[XC] gomeler

256GB x 24 drives = 6144GB.
03-09-2009, 05:17 PM
BrokeDown

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

256GB x 24 drives = 6144GB.

They mentioned MB drives, not GB drives. Obviously it's a typo.
03-09-2009, 07:23 PM
mrcape

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Originally Posted by Loque

Best integrity test ever !

Thats a lot of cash to build that machine, wonder if Samsung bought everything or it was the marketing department :p

You wouldn't believe some of the budgets in marketing departments. That is chump change for them.

That's why I don't get the low purses at OC competitions. It's great PR.
03-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Pontos

What's even more amazing is that this build was extremely bottlenecked.
At the end of the video it's mentioned that they reached 1gb/s with only 9 SSD in one of the scenarios, leaving clear that there is room for improvement shall we get more bandwidth for it one of these days.
They even needed to use three different controllers because not even two of them could handle the throughput of the disks...
03-09-2009, 09:23 PM
Bobsama

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Originally Posted by Pontos

What's even more amazing is that this build was extremely bottlenecked.
At the end of the video it's mentioned that they reached 1gb/s with only 9 SSD in one of the scenarios, leaving clear that there is room for improvement shall we get more bandwidth for it one of these days.
They even needed to use three different controllers because not even two of them could handle the throughput of the disks...

Any boards and controllers for PCI-E 2.0 x16 slots? :p: I think that would go a good ways towards relieving those bottlenecks. 8GB/s in one slot in that scenario. That'd be some nice bandwidth--copy a full DVD in <1 second.
03-09-2009, 09:40 PM
gatecrasherlok

WOW is all I can say. I am absolutely gobsmacked at that xtremety
03-09-2009, 09:45 PM
mrkram

i nearly died when they defragged. great vid
03-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Mr_Mike

Lots of Blink get you lots of zing!
03-09-2009, 10:04 PM
BulldogPO

I would like to see how fast it will rip BD movie :D
03-09-2009, 10:16 PM
m^2

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Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Wow.. it could be used as regular system memory..

No, it couldn't. Way too slow access time.
03-09-2009, 11:58 PM
joshd

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Originally Posted by mrkram

i nearly died when they defragged. great vid

So did the SSDs, lololol ;)
03-10-2009, 02:27 AM
acidpython

Could it have been improved by using windows 7's SSD file systems?
03-10-2009, 05:08 AM
Mechromancer

Under Vista Ultimate x64 I get 500mb/s out of four OCZ Solid Series SSDs. That speed is limited by my ARC-1210 at that. Is the scaling with SSDs not at all close to being linear?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ARC-1210-V.png\

I get this score without any partition alignment or OS optimizations (which creates the sawtooth pattern), but performance is still great. With 24 SSDs, I'd expect to be atleast above 3000mb/s(125mb/s+ per drive). Then again, just like my setup their controller may be the limiting factor.
03-10-2009, 05:19 AM
Buckeye

When I ran MFT on my Raid and PCMark05 I was hitting something like 524k for the HDD score. Trying to remember what was showing up for HDTach and others. It was close to 2gb/s.

Anyone else have any info on what MFT did for there Raids ?
03-10-2009, 05:35 AM
Power_VANO

Nice numbers they got there :)
03-10-2009, 10:15 AM
Bo_Fox

Ooooooh... the decade of 2010 will be the decade of SSD's growing from drives that can hardly beat the Velociraptor or the 15000rpm cheetah, to drives that are nearly as fast as system memory. Damn, that's going to be a difference in how we compute!
03-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Ooooooh... the decade of 2010 will be the decade of SSD's growing from drives that can hardly beat the Velociraptor or the 15000rpm cheetah, to drives that are nearly as fast as system memory. Damn, that's going to be a difference in how we compute!

do you mean system memory we have now, cause as HDDs are getting faster, RAM is getting faster too. for one to replace the other, it would probably be a very low budget computer where either the HDD or RAM is missing and they take the sacrifice of power for some savings
03-10-2009, 06:12 PM
Bo_Fox

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

do you mean system memory we have now, cause as HDDs are getting faster, RAM is getting faster too. for one to replace the other, it would probably be a very low budget computer where either the HDD or RAM is missing and they take the sacrifice of power for some savings

You know what i mean!! :p: SSD's would probably increase so much in speed during next decade that it is faster than today's memory! Magnetic HD's only climb in speed at a slow, predictable rate.

I was so amazed at how quickly flash memory increased in capacity during the last few years. Almost nobody expected this to happen. We were spending $100 on 256MB of flash memory only 5 years ago, and now 256MB is not even worth $1 or deserving of a spot on the retail shelf. 8 GB (32 times the capacity of 256MB) is now the price of a dinner at TGIF, and probably also 10-20 times faster...
03-11-2009, 12:53 AM
gallardo

Pretty sure the dude with the $16k computer would kill himself if he saw this.
03-11-2009, 12:55 AM
Prince21

http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...home/home.html

This si the official website that I got of the video for ppl to check
03-11-2009, 05:21 AM
XS Janus

I like how Samsung is handling their SSD marketing!
Great promotions!
:)
Pricewar FTW!
03-11-2009, 05:42 AM
TheKarmakazi

I want to see pcmark 2005 virus scan speeds with MFT enabled on this rig... 100,000 MB/s anyone? :lol:
03-11-2009, 06:40 AM
OutSider

Amazing setup :D
03-11-2009, 01:56 PM
rockfella

really extreme... hey did anyone notice the software they used to measure the 2GB p/s hdd speed? :confused:
03-12-2009, 09:24 PM
Bo_Fox

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Originally Posted by gallardo

Pretty sure the dude with the $16k computer would kill himself if he saw this.

Roger that!! SSD's are cool, but I wouldn't take the suicidal plunge like this just yet.. :cool: