Hi guys.
Just received my new Heatkiller GPU-X2 GTX 285 from www.watercool.de !
That is really a nice one.
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/1.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/2.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/3.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/gesamt.jpg
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The load temp was 45-47°C on GPU while water was at 29-30°C. My clocks reached 792/1420/1650 with a Palit GTX 285 :D
i'd be damned :shocked:
that is one hell of facinating FC block i've ever seen...:D
bit confuse how the top is mount...is it only the middle top
Water flows throuh the middle part with the "X" on it, that is right. This is mounted to the Plate, which covers the Mosfets etc. In the plate there is milled a structure, where the water is pressed through. That gives a real good cooling performance :D
I will take a look for pics from inside. Mine is installed yet ;)
I really like the looks of the HK blocks. Looks very industrial and serious if you ask me.
Looks good. Seems to be a two-slot solution. As far as I can understand German there seems to be a sli-solution. This SLI-solution is mighty cool!
http://212.227.231.249/watercool/cms.../10193-alt.jpg
HOLY AWESOME BATMAN!
They look SICK!!!!
Yes and it ist pretty more stable, when installed with these SLI-Links. Your Board will be thankful :D
There isn't a day when I ask myself, "Is my board thankful today?" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
The inner pics of these coolers can be found here: PC-Masters.de
wow the internals of this waterblock are really interesting, they look pretty restrictive i think though?.. combining a FC style block with a CPU style fin layout under it.. i like it a lot
:nono: PARALLEL :nono:
lest history repeat itself once more, don't let NaeKuh see this thread!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
So parallel is not recommended? I was thinking of buying HK's 4870 CF solution.
the way parallel works the block farther from the barbs gets less flow by a factor of the length between the blocks, its all in Bernoulli's equation
someone had a nice diagram of it before but I cant seem to find it now....
+1 for the series and make it for 2 x 295's :)
I was looking at the internals of the HK. Gorram! It looks extremly restrictive! The fins seems to be perpendicular to water flow.
Can someone post the internals? I cant navigate in german.
Note that this is for the R670 GPU. They might have done changes. It's hard to know since they seem to not post the internals on their site.
http://www.pcmasters.de/fileadmin/re...el%20innen.jpg
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Okay this might be a little bit restrictive, but for the GPU it works very well. In a test this block for the GTX 280 beats the EK-Block by 4,1°C better cooling. The flow with the EK-block was 292,2 litres per hour and the flow with the Watercool block was 253,2 litres per hour.
(1 Litre = 0,264172052 Gallons)
Could you post internals of your block?
But for a single card solution, it's gorgeous.........and look at the prices! For the 4870, 35 Euros, or $45 U.S.
The GTX 285 block is 40 Euros, or $52 U.S.
I'm fairly positive that you can run Watercool GPU coolers in series:
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_inf...y-Adapter.html
You'd have to buy one for each GPU block you buy.
I am sorry, but I am already running my card in my system now and I want to leave it in there. I reached 792/1620/1485 stable now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
I will arrange some pics for you. I contacted the support already. ;)
I think you must be looking at the upgrade Kits right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminn55
Usually you buy one GPU-X2.The first GPU-X2 costs around 89,90€ and if your card changes, you can just buy the different Bottom plate in an upgrade kit. That is around 35-40€.
But if using SLI, why buying these single 4-way Adapters? Ah let me guess... to separate them in different loops? Or to feed the blocks with water like you want it and not not like the links do?Quote:
Originally Posted by alejo
Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
Yes, I think most people here prefer to run their cards in series and not parallel. I don't really care myself as I only run one card at time. :)
:up: Looking forward to it!Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
I had a look @ their solution for the 4870x2 and, to my taste, that's one sexy block...
And the price is in the same bracket as the Razor...
However, it doesn't have stand-offs, inlet-outlet are rather close (might cause problems with certain fittings, which IMHO has no excuse given that these cards are as long as it gets) and once I close the case I don't see a sausage (no windows, yes acoustic foam FTW! :P ) so is yet another no-no for me... Function > Form...
Nukeah will love this
[translation]
The GPU-X ² Triple-Link enables an optimal combination of three cards in SLI or CrossFire systems. The Triple-Link is technically optimized flow and gives the composite video adapter additional stability through the parallel inflow of graphics cards, the low flow resistance. Besides the ease of installation is identical on all cards Kühlmediumtemperatur another advantage over serially flows through systems.
The GPU-X ² Triple-Link has 4 threaded for maximum flexibility during installation, the threads are not needed with the included locking screws sealed.
[/translation]
Parallel FTW!!!
identical Kühlmediumtemperatur on all cards - means that the water temperature is identical on all cards, because it is reching them parallel.
no, its not. The rules of fluid dynamics say it cannot.Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
HK just thinks that it does; unless they've added a smaller bole set of holes to the near block to the barb which I doubt, but its possible.
"technically optimized flow" "parallel inflow of graphics cards, the low flow resistance"
Oh dear god this is going to be lolz, I wonder if its parallel flow also allows it to go below ambient!
Looks cool though...
Transformers, robots in disguise!
Id say thats exactly what theyve done... not hard but nice to have it engineered into a product.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
yet the difference is soo minimal because the blocks are 100% identical and the extra low-path for the water is similarQuote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
i've seen this sli-config in a friends pc and the temp difference between the 2 cores is minimal, however i wasn't able to test and compare them in a series config
in my opinion a parallel setup for multigpu setups has more advantages thn disadvantages: more flow for cpu blocks (if they share the loop), if they're on their own loop you can still use normal sli connectors instead of the link-part afaik;)
That is a really good looking block in my opinion, sounds like it works pretty well also.
Fyi
i just saw the internals.....:eek:
that is sweeeeet :up:
Or you could check out my post #5 in this thread... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hotdun
That's why I posted the picture of the bottom outlets......it follows the discussion after your initial posting. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by biggles1
Ah, now I get it! Thanks! As a side note: Now I really understand why my co-workers keep throwing stuff at me when I don't read the whole contents of their emails... :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by hotdun
I really like the idea of running SLI cards in parallel. The difference in tubing length is less than two inches. I'm sure no one can mount a fc block so exact several times that the difference in flow rate equals in a larger difference in cooling performance than the mount itself. This way it is much easier to install, much cleaner look and a higher overall flow rate.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ldgrendern.jpg
hey i like your idea of placing that tube :up: :up:
In high restriction blocks like these there may be enough pressure built up on the inlet side to ensure that they are all getting approximately equal flow. On low restriction blocks you would most definitely not want parallel for optimum temp uniformity.
how are the temperatures with your setup? they look good by the way :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Radical_53
@serpentarius: Thanks! :)
@iandh: Sure thing, yes. But those blocks would need high flow anyhow to reach optimum performance. These blocks here, with their higher restriction, work really well when "parallelized" :D
@hondacity: It's an older setup of mine, yet temperatures were really good. Those are two 8800 GTS which ran at 800MHz core and the blocks were just laughing at them temperature-wise. The delta between water and GPU was 10K roughly under load.
i was asking the temp difference between the two gpu..because they were in parallel...do you recall any difference?
Oh ok. They were both within a +/- 1K range. As close together as possible.
so the parallel connection indeed works...
thanks for that info
Hi Guys!
I just bought their CPU-Block an gave it away to be nickel plated.
That is the yummy result :eek:
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/hk6.JPG
i just wish they have a retailer here in the us...
40euro shipping is just not fair practice...
gary at sidewinder told me today that they will be getting some in.. didnt get when or at what price yet though
Fair practice? An average order from the US costs me $60us or $120nz..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
LOL! $227 delivery plus $120 customs duty to get my Extended Ascension in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
Another $150 delivery plus $72 customs duty for an order from PPCs.
In total, a whooping $539 in delivery charges and customs so far for this build.
€40... LOL...
:owned: Here we go:
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/hksli.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/hksli2.jpg
both coolers nickel plated silver. (made by another company) :banana:
how are the temps???
Must take a look at the temps, when I am home again. Both cards are together with the NB-Block in one loop with a Nexxxos Extreme III Triple Rad. Not just perfect, maybe a better Rad in the near future.
Are the inlets on top or can you choose?
A pic of the top would be nice ;)
I must say the cards look really sexy with those blocks installed :up:
Of course you can choose, but left is the inlet and right is the outlet (parallel in and parallel out)
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/hk/hksli5.jpg
this connector looks awesome :up:
Best connector ever? :)
yeah Bitspower ftw fittings :D
I have one as well, very useful :up:
Hmm just thinking... if you run 2 or even 3 cards parallel then the water would flow via one inlet through 2 or 3 cards simultaneously, so would that mean less restriction?
question.... doesnt the g200b series also fit the gtx 260 55nm?? i would LOVE to get this block for my gtx 260 :D
I agree now I regret buying the koolance version when the heat killers have a adapter that lets you pick and choose the inlet and outlet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
You can only pick upside or downside. Inlet must be on the left and outlet on the right.
@mabyboi: The GTX 260 55nm is a little bit complicated. Too many non-reference designs, Watercool decided not to make a waterblock.... Thanks to NVIDIA and all the manufacturers who wanted to save money. :mad:
Im sooooo jelous Peebee, those blocks are just gawjus.
craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap, i wonder if i can get in contact with a manufacturer for a 100% answer...... i could have sworn i saw that the g200b would work :S.... thanks though!Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
Thx guys.
For more pics, just click on the link in my sig. I also have pics from the whole board installed in my cube now.
(on the last pages for sure)
I know it's parallel but that's sexy and clean! And I suppose with it's own pump in a single loop, the flow loss wouldn't be quite so apparent...
~Bex
Hey peebee, nice block!Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
Does this block was nickel plated inside too? Does nickel plating affects on fitting threads and overall perfomance of the block?
BTW how much it (plating) costs?
sorry for too much questions :)
Those nickle plated Hk's looking :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing awesome!
is it possible to nickel plated mobo heatsink ?
Nickel plating does not affect the performance or Threads because it is only a few "my" thick. it is so thin, you can´t measure it.
Simply all stuff can be nickel plated. It should be copper or aluminium. I don´t know which materials else, but I think steel is a problem.
Costs are totally different. Better ask a company in your country. I paid 9€ per Part. Heatkiller consists of 3 Parts, so I paid 27€ + shipping. :)
peebee
thx for your answer!