DFI DK X58-T3eH6 on Test

DFI DK X58-T3eH6 on Test
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DFI's latest mid range X58 motherboard, the LANParty DK X58-T3eH6 aims to hit the market at under £200, making it one of the most affordable X58 boards yet. As with all DFI boards, it's fully laden with features, but isn't kitted out with a load of features you'll never use. The features are very similar to it's more expensive big brother, the UT-X58-T3eH8 , but this one has a hybrid PWM section as opposed to the fully digital Volterra set up on the more expensive model.

Detail Index: DFI DK X58-T3eH6 Living Review

Pics & Links:-
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More Pics & Bios Screens:
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4000 20x200 Ram 8 = 1600 8-8-8-21

http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...0@8bench-s.png
Run this a few times to get lowest Vcore & vtt ended up at Vcore=1.375v Vtt=1.24v. See link above for full bios settings.

4,200 21x200 Ram x6 6-6-6-20
Hyperthreading Enabled.
Benches
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...210bench-s.png
Not stable yet, current bios settinmngs in link.

Very nice, that living review is extremely well done. For a second I thought no one on XS cared about this mobo. I just finished assembling my comp with this mobo 2 days ago so your posting here is quite timely :up:.

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Originally Posted by faster3200

Very nice, that living review is extremely well done. For a second I thought no one on XS cared about this mobo. I just finished assembling my comp with this mobo 2 days ago so your posting here is quite timely .

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Thanks, yes it's unusual not to see a thread on a new DFI board up already, my turn to be first I guess :lol:
Be interested to see how you get on. This is my first DK , so far I'm i'm impressed.:D

Latest BTA DX58D123 D.2009-01-23
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed system lagged issue.
2. Fixed some SSD device can’t install OS issue.

Note:

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!!!WARNING!!!WARNING!!!WARNING!!!
Please click here for Update the "DX58D114.ABS" first by Auto Boost system AP file when you changed BIOS version..

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In other words clear any CMOS Reloaded settings, from old bios Don't load any into new.

There are additional and changed features:-
1) CPU Voltage
IN
SuperVid
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...s/supervid.png
Out
Vcore Droop Loadline Scale
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...s/Img_0037.jpg

2) Dram Timings
Two new Dram Settings:-
Channel Interleave Settings
Rank Interleave Setting
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie.../bios/dram.png
Channel Interleave Settings
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...mnterleave.png
Rank Interleave Setting
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...s/rank_int.png

Does it come out of sleep properly at that BCLK?

Can you go to x21?

sorry at what BCLK?
no only in turbo when not all cores are loaded. 920 normal multi is maxed at 20.

I have yet to get around to doing much fiddling with this mobo due to school and friends but, I should have something tomorrow. Heh, I have been lazy and haven't even finished building it. I had a LAN party at my house and not even 1/3 of my fans or my power button is hooked up :p:. Do you have any tips for me that might be useful as this is my first OC experience with Core i7 or Intel DFI mobos.

Also, what does SuperVid do?

The Clocking, Benches Observations and Bios settings Section >=24 has full bios settings to crib from.
General advise I guess :-

1. Your vdimm and cpu vtt should stay within 0.5v of eachother if possible
2. Keep Uncore Frequency X2 that of Dram Frequency. so for example
   RAM Frequency: BCLK*08 MHz
   Uncore Frequency: BCLK*16 MHz
   The Bios automatically adjusts Uncore if you increase memory multi, but doesn't work if you decrease memory multi.
3. QPI bus needs to be set to the lowest it'll go, its auto by default, but for maybe >=200, you will need to set it to 4800gt/s
4. hyperthreading and turbo mode will effect your clocks the higher you go, I've managed 210x20 ok but if going further you may need to disable them.

Still exploring SuperVID :)

Hmmm, well I tried OCing last night and I seem to be encountering something rather unexpected. For whatever reason I can't get past 170 BCLK. I can do 170 BCLK completely stable but anything over that and I get no post. My mem is completely stable at those speeds and higher but I dropped the divider and timings just to be sure. I have the QPI bus set to 4800GT/S setting (18x multi right?) but I have a crackpot theory that it is actually set at the 22x multi since that hits the 4ghz limit. The rest of the settings are pretty much identical to your's Supershanks.

Any help?

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QPI bus set to 4800GT/S setting (18x multi right?)

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At 170 tou should be fine with QPI bus on auto.

I was able to run at BCLK of 180 with everything else at auto, was my 1st shot.

Alright I will try all auto and see if that fixes the problem.

UPDATE:
Ok I tried all auto settings and the issue persists. I also tried auto with only voltage adjusted but no go on that as well. 170 BCLK is 100% stable but above that no post.

This is a seriously weird problem.

what ram & CPU you using ?

i7 920 CPU
Aeneon 1600mhz 3x2gb ram. I know this is pretty crap for OCing but it should be more than fine for the speed and latencies I am running it at.

This is quite baffling to me as I have tried every conceivable thing to get it above 170mhz. I might try an older bios to see if that helps.

UPDATE: Tried playing around with a different bios but no luck, it still won't post past 170 BCLK.

Voltage Measuring Points
Couldn't be simpler, the same as it's more expensive big brother the DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8 So another big plus for this board, the key measuring points you need in an easy access position.


Note: If you don't know what you're doing, please DO NOT go poking around with a DMM, you will probably kill your board - Niether Clunk.org.uk or Xtreme Systems will take any responsibility for any loss or damage as a result of using this information.
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...measure-sm.jpg

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i7 920 CPU
Aeneon 1600mhz 3x2gb ram. I know this is pretty crap for OCing but it should be more than fine for the speed and latencies I am running it at.

This is quite baffling to me as I have tried every conceivable thing to get it above 170mhz. I might try an older bios to see if that helps.

UPDATE: Tried playing around with a different bios but no luck, it still won't post past 170 BCLK.

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Still pondering your issue , it does seem odd.
Can''t think of too much offhand , any chance of putting your current settings in the Bios Template and posting it ?
Maybe we can see what issue is.

what is the difference between this board and the UT version?

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Originally Posted by CoolZone

what is the difference between this board and the UT version?

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analog PWMs, different cooling on the board

thanks for explaining

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what is the difference between this board and the UT version?

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Analogue/Hybrid PWM is main difference as SNiiPE_DoGG says :up:

• PWM DK=Hybrid 6+2+2 v UT=8-Phase Volterra Full Digital PWM
• Sound DK = on board Realtek ALC889 for 8CH HD v Bernstein audio module
• Gfx = DK = 2-way SLI or Quad CrossFireX v UT = 3 graphics cards in 3-way SLI or Quad CrossFireX configuration
• Lan DK Marvell 88E8053 PCIE Gigabit v Marvell 88E8052 and Marvell 88E8053 PCIE Gigabit LAN controllers
• Arounfd £55/$80

4,047Mhz 19x213 DDR3@x8 1,704Mhz 8-8-8-22
Managed to get a faster ram speed by dropping multi to 19 & upping BCLK to 213

Vcore= 1.3625v , Vtt=1.40v VDimm=1.635v

Benches
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...=Bencha1-s.png

http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...8-Bench1-s.png

Stability
1 Hour OCCT Linpack
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...-Occt-lp-s.png


Bios Settings

3.9Ghz 20x195 DDR3 x10 1,950Mhz 9-9-8-23 1.65v
Highest Memory clock so far, not quiet got to a bench able 2,000Mhz yet but this isn't a bad clock, just on the top end of the ram's voltage.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/506927.png
Ram =
G.SKILL PI Black DDR3 PC 12800 CL8 6GB kit (F3-12800CL8T-6GBPI-B)
Benches

Note: Everest below is Version 4.60.1639 Beta shown for consistency with earlier benches.
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...0-bench1-s.png

Everest v5:-
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...-everestv5.png

http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...0-bench2-s.png

Stability
CPU
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...@10-occt-s.png
Ram
Large FFTs:-
Needed to up vdimm a notch to 1.665v from 1.65v used for benching. tRC is at maximum of 31.
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...0_lgefft-s.png

Bios Settings
initial values mat be able to tighten TRFC etc.,

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[B}DFI DK X58-T3eH6[/b]
Genie BIOS
CPU Features Sub Menu
Set VR Current Limit Max.......: Disabled
Thermal Management Control.....: Disabled
EIST Function..................: Disabled
CxE Function...................: Disable
Execute Disable Bit............: Disabled
Virtualisation Technology......: Disabled
***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT technology............: Enabled
Active Processor Cores.........: All

DRAM Timing Sub Menu
Memory Control Setting.........: Auto
Channel Interleave Setting.....: 3 Way
Rank Interleave Setting........: Auto
Memory LowGap..................: 1536
DRAM Command Rate..............: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL).........: 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRP).......: 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP)...........: 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS).........: 23
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)........: 88
Write to Pre Delay (tWR).......: 10
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)......: 5
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)........: 4
Row Cycle Time (tRC)...........: 31
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP).....: 5
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW).......: 24

Voltage Setting Sub Menu
O.C. Shut Down Free............: Enable
CPU VID Control................: 1.3625v
Power Saving...................:[STANDARD] 
Super VID......................:[OFF]
Vcore Auto PSI.................: Disab
OCP............................: 140A
DRAM Bus Voltage...............: 1.65--> 1.665v for stability
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency......: Nominal Frequency
DRAM PWM Phase Control.........: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add............: Auto
CPU VTT Voltage................: 1.40v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency.......: Nominal Frequency
VTT PWM Phase Control..........: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage................: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1v Voltage...........: 1.11v
IOH Analog Voltage.............: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage................: 1.5v
ICH 1.05v Voltage..............: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....: 0%
CPU Core DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
CPU QPI Drive Strength.........: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength.........: Normal

Genie Main Mewnu(Cont'd)
Exit Setup Shut Down...........: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter........: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reloaded........: Disabled
PPM Function...................: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function............: Disabled
x 1 Core Max Turbo Ratio ......: Enabled
x 2 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 22x
x 3 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 21x
x 4 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 21x

CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio......: 20x

*BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings*

QPI Control Settings...........: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode.............: Enabled
QPI Frequency GT/Sec...........: Auto
CPU Base Clock (BCLK)..........: 195MHz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock.........: Auto
PCIE Clock.....................: 100MHz
DRAM Frequency.................: x10
Uncore Frequency...............: x20

CPU Spread Spectrum............: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum...........: Disabled

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max bclk?

Supershanks, thanks. Great stuff as always. Your hard work is appreciated. :up:

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Originally Posted by loonym

Supershanks, thanks. Great stuff as always. Your hard work is appreciated. :up:

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Hows yours doing now? I've not heard anything out of your i7's recently.

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Originally Posted by diablos

max bclk?

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:shrug: yet :)

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Originally Posted by loonym

Supershanks, thanks. Great stuff as always. Your hard work is appreciated.

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So far with this it's like the X48T a lot of fun :)

Done a bit of playing about with Turbo mode:-
Engage Turbo Mode:D
Examples
Turbo Mode 4,200 - 4,000Mhz 20x200 DDR3 x8 1,600
Turbo Mode: 4,410Mhz - 4,200Mhz 20x210 DDR3 x6 1,260

can you share your complete 20x200 setting?

Why DFI has´nt packed Tri-SLI bridge with this mobo?

How is the Less cooling, and analog PWM doin? are there missing any bios settings? that the UT has?

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Originally Posted by Krautmaster

can you share your complete 20x200 setting?

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I have , see 4000 20x200 Ram 8 = 1600 8-8-8-21

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See link above for full bios settings.

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= Click Picture. Sorry:shrug:

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Originally Posted by BulldogPO

Why DFI has´nt packed Tri-SLI bridge with this mobo?

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Cos unlike the UT it's 2x SLI not x3

Hi Infa,
Coolings fine had no issues was originally planning to lift the NB
Click pic for link
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...bo/nbclean.jpg
and mount a cooler and fan , but haven't found the need.

Ok, now I will order a board in 2 days, and I'm sitting here to find out, the giga UD5 has 10 phase CPU, while this only has 6 and 2 for VTT, why? have gigabyte just put more there for no reason? these boards do cost a lot of money, (atleast for me) and i dont want to make a choice i will regret, I have allways wanted a DFI board to play with, but on the other hand, dont want to make the wrong choice, will the less pwm make any diffrence? so for me it's ud5 or this board.. and 1 day to make my choice, i like to play alot, and do understand the most of a bios, like benches and stuff :)

Can't really say about the UD5 not had one. The 6phase dk though can perform as well as it's 8Phase DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8 big brother.

Click pic for detail
4,410 21x210 DDR3 x6 1,260 6-6-6-16
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...@6-bench-s.png

with a 24/7 of
4000 20x200 Ram 8 = 1600 8-8-8-21

Ain't to shabby :shrug:

Anyone has good settings for QPI over 200MHz?

Hi Guys

Just got one of these and have couple of questions:

- why do you say that DK has Hybrid PWM - specs say "6+2+2 Phase PWM : 6 Phase for CPU, 2 Phase for VTT, 2 Phase for Memory : New Symphony ™ Pure Digital Power by CHiL" ?

- anyone put a waterblock on NB Heatpipe? If so, which one did you go for - did it fit without modding?
*** Looks like the best ones are EK S-MAX and Swiftech MCW-30 ***

anyone can help me how to enable turbo mode with this motherboard on windows 7, please need guide here

See Turbo Mode & the 2 posts following for more info.

i already tried to enable EIST but when it come to windows the multi become x12 even whne load, shoud i format my windows 7?

You should update to the latest Bios for your board, there are a bug for both the UT and DK board, that the latest bios will fix.

regards.

i already use the 2009-07-01 bios , is there any newer bios?

:mad: tHis MB is :banana::banana::banana::banana: !! cant even change multiplier on a Extreme 975 and iam stock at max 25 multis :( can just change down on multis to X 12 not over X 26 a range to 33 or more
and Dfi are very slow to update bios to

how about the highest fsb for this mobo fpr 24/7?
i already tried to enable EIST but when it come to windows the multi become x12 even whne load, shoud i format my windows 7?

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Originally Posted by barong

i already tried to enable EIST but when it come to windows the multi become x12 even whne load, shoud i format my windows 7?

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Did you change the Os powerplan as in :
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...apwropt-s.png# ?
That should fix ,multi to x21 as shown in the turbo mode link in my last post.

anyone try 2009-07-24 bios its said that
Major Reasons of Change:
The BIOS fixed Windows 7 CPU ratio issue

IT WORKS!!!
2009-07-24 bios
Major Reasons of Change:
The BIOS fixed Windows 7 CPU ratio issue

mine now is x21 :D :D :D

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Originally Posted by barong

IT WORKS!!!
2009-07-24 bios
Major Reasons of Change:
The BIOS fixed Windows 7 CPU ratio issue

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Nice one :) :up:

I can't get 220 benchable out of this board... anyone else have better luck?

The best I could do, in Vantage, with my i7 920 is this:
http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijken/2019976.html

Now with a 950 I did this, but still tweaking, because at 1.475v or higher the board craps out... bsod or even power off... PSU is Thermaltake 1200w which works fine on another board with higher volts...
http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk/...337816-940.jpg

this is my daily use with this mobo

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9125/prime42.jpg[/QUOTE]

is it safe for daily use?

vcore at 1.232v is decent.
how stable is cpu ? all i see is 3min large ffts which really tests ram rather than cpu ?

which test should i use small ftt or blend test? please need guide

I usually use blend to test both.

thanks for the advise will try it soon :D

Hey Supershanks how can i change multiplier on my Extreme 975 and i have updated bios too? it dosent goes with more than X 25 in bios and is max there :(

Not sure how many of these MB's are still out there, so just to give this "old" thread some new life - I upgraded the BIOS to 6/15/2010 and installed a new i7 990x.
So far so good - 4.0 (30x133) @ 1.28v

I hope that my old 920 D0 was a dog and not this board - I never got that chip stable over 3.8 ........

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Originally Posted by Russ_64

Not sure how many of these MB's are still out there, so just to give this "old" thread some new life - I upgraded the BIOS to 6/15/2010 and installed a new i7 990x.
So far so good - 4.0 (30x133) @ 1.28v

I hope that my old 920 D0 was a dog and not this board - I never got that chip stable over 3.8 ........

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Has anyone got the latest BIOS for this board? DFI's website is messed up (or non existent now) im having issues with getting Crossfire working, under Win7 X64 and Vista X64.. ive tryed different cards, drivers etc etc and the only thing i rekin it could be is the board.. anyone had this problem?

could anyone link me to a good download or email me a BIOS? im using 09/08/2010 atm.

http://www.dfi.com.tw/DFI-Lanparty/s...MBDownload.jsp