How come no info or reviews on this? I wonder how much it'll cost.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=37019
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How come no info or reviews on this? I wonder how much it'll cost.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=37019
expectedly as much as e8600 now (266$)...
e8600 falls to 183$ (not the first time that happens)
in the era of cheap quads, who cares about any duals?
Benchers with weaker mobos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
wounder how high you could clock these things on the TRUE?
Should be great if they clock like the 8600's. It's strange nothing has been heard about them, I'd definitely like to see some results.
Should be a great chip for gaming if you can crank it up super high. Would be nice to game on a dual core at 4.6GHz or something.
or p'raps SPi1M @7ghz :rolleyes: :D
This should definitely be a 7Ghz chip with the way process has matured nicely. 7Ghz is 100% oc afterall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slovnaft
The same people that care about triples. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Shouldn't be much better than E8600, as we are limited by the cpu not by its FSB capabilities like on the Quads (e.g. Q9450). Remember we got 10x multi on E8600 and 460 or 470 should be easy, even on X38 chipsets or something similar.
woooo thats nice, I think this will be my first LN2 chip
10.5 x 666 is what it'll take. I say it's definitely doable. I certainly think it'll give nehalem a run for its money on hwbot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
P35 users rejoice!
>_>
I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
You are just downplaying Duals because AMD don't have a Dual Core worth sh1t.
I think the Quads are still too expensive, so getting a cheap, but still powerful enough Dual Core now, knowing one can upgrade to a Quad later when the prices come down, has its merits.
3.5GHz! not bad ...
I might pickup a E8600 if it drops that much in price so it would cost around same as E8500 and aim for 9x500 = 4.5GHz. That and DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 would be a nice 24/7 config. I have a great P35 FSB clocking mobo sitting here screaming for more than what my poor old C0 E8400 can offer. But on a 2nd thought Lynnfield is simply too close, so the prices would have to change quick for me to concider.
I know they made a 3.5GHz Wolfdale in the LGA771 package. It says "launched" yet there are no places selling it :clap: Plus there are no order/box codes.
Your general argument for duals are correct, but not for this specific one, when it probably retails at 2xx bucks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Boga
Not too sure but check the guru3D Phenom II review. They had a E8XXX thrown in for good measure and the results in gaming are rather different from normal preconceptions...
Alot of ppl. This cpu will own 2001,2005,aquamark3,superpi1M,pifast.... ;):p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Would be cool if some1 would be able to pull a 666x10.5 FSB suicide shot, that's almost breaking the 7GHz barrier. xD Wasn't the current E8xxx highest clock frequency around 6.8GHz?
Hmm maybe very good samples of E8700 could allow for stable 5.0GHz on air.
excatly I care about this chip its probably binned to kill Intel made this for one reason to overclock and show AMD we can hit 7+ghz people like numbers intel figures hey why not bine an E8600 until their is no tomorrow and show people whats up
Almost netburst speeds :p:
I look forward to getting my hands on one of these :D
Must have this chip! Can you say 7GHz?
Nice... Yeah lots of people like duals. I know I've been thinking of getting a Q9550 / Q9650 but might just stick it out with my E8400 since it is a great performer and should tweak it more to reach 4.3-4.5Ghz.
Duels still have a good purpose since Quads aren't fully utilized yet in majority of day to day or even gaming tasks.
I guess it will replace E8600 @ 266$
E8600 will drop to 183$, E8500 163$
E8400 finally EOL (coz next pricepoint is 133$) ;)
I wouldn't pay for the top bin Intel Dual, they are rip off prices compared to the one or two bins below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
So I only see the value in this chip of making the E8400, E8500 & E8600 cheaper.
Does this new chip[and the other E8xxx's at cheaper prices] put some pressure on the PH2?
Hmm, link seems to be down?
that link gives me an error, i tried searching for e8700, and it came up but when i clicked the result error D:
i think i'm going to order one of these babies in a month or so, once i know what batch to aim for :)
Link worked. I saw it. But no E8700 on http://processorfinder.intel.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Chruschef
link worked fine for me shows E8700 3.5ghz 6mb cache cpu
667x10.5 FTW :)
I'll consider a quad when they actually do things in games I play, I faster dual core is always welcome.
I wonder why Intel pulled the link...:confused::confused:
http://www.cpusers.gr/attachment.php...1&d=1232994715
This one will probably oc just a tad better then the 8600 model. Besides im still happy with my 8400 doing 4ghz which is more then enough for any game.
7Ghz is for people who have access to LN2 only. And 667Mhz fsb is not all mobo and ddr2 ram can achive.
667 does seem a little high but it would be nice to see that 10.5 multi....
No :banana::banana::banana::banana: sherlock, what do you think the people were talking about? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny7day
Cuz of the higher CPU multi, new frequency records could still be achieved if you disclude any ES CPUs with unlocked multis of course. It's much more of a challenge to achieve 7GHz with a low multi like 10, need super cherry picked motherboards and not even those would allow 700 FSB usually at least at such high frequency but with 10.5x multi and LN2 on NB for 667 FSB action could possibly make it happen if we have an excellent board + CPU, wasn't 7GHz reached on an unlocked ES Wolfdale unofficially?
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a
The google cache works!!! Really though this makes things interesting... Perhaps THIS is the chip for extreme gamers instead of the Q9550. If this runs at 4.5GHz it's worth it IMO but it needs to be below $230 to still be valuable over a quad. The DC frame rates are just outrageous for most games still.
Yes, iirc was about 7.1Ghz. I can't find the screenshots for the life of me though, the CPU-Z validation was taken down too :shakes: Not even on ripping.org :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
while your at it intel.. Q9850 (10x multi) please! :D
how about an E8800 ?
Bring on the X8800 already. Wolfdale is the first family in a long time to not have an Extreme Edition.
well... price wise C2D E8000 series is above triples... so it's not a same thing, especially when you have three cores capable of reaching 4 GHz on air, and cost less than those duals E8000 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
lol 3 cores these two cores are faster at same speeds and can do 4.8 5 ghz on air sometimes
Someone confirm for me that there is a tri-core backer in this thread? :p
Intel has set prices for Q1 2009 last week!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Boga
Next price cut will arrive on April 20th. so don't hold your breath for cheaper 8400/8500 and 8600!
I don't expect these to be released for a while because there was no mention of it being release on the January 18 price cut chart. Or perhaps intel might cancel the launch, hence removed the link?
Chad Boga in the flash :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Boga
nice philosophy! Now back to the topic Intel C2D series vs. Intel C2Q 8000/9000 series!Quote:
I think the Quads are still too expensive, so getting a cheap, but still powerful enough Dual Core now, knowing one can upgrade to a Quad later when the prices come down, has its merits.
Here are prices:
http://www.abload.de/img/jan_18_09_1ku_price.pdu0ui.png
Now, what is the better buy? C2D E8600 or C2Q Q9550???
I spy 7GHz!! :up:
I´m not advocating for dualcores (Or even tricores) since the future is quads and beyond. But to make the judgement I would add that the E8600 price would drop and be replaced by the E8700.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Plus when you look downwards, Q8200 or E8400? It quickly gets tricky due to amdahls law.
If it was an AMD CPU, you were going to open trillion threads and scream over the window about it. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
You posted this 3 days ago. Typically for a hardcore fanboy is to have double standards. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Face it, the E8700 wipes the floor with all the AMD CPUs up to date, except Deneb. ;)
It doesn't exist yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gOJDO
E8700 will be E0? or a new stepping?
Please don't do that! Don't think what you think that I think it would be appropriate thing to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by gOJDO
And what does this post in compliantly different topic has to do with this one??Quote:
Did you obtained one and test it, so you know?Quote:
Face it, the E8700 wipes the floor with all the AMD CPUs up to date, except Deneb. ;)
Sarcasm on a side, high clock and 6megs of shared cache will do what they've done for all Cores so far when it comes to singlethreaded and explicitly dual-core optimized apps... but in multithreaded apps and multitasking scenarios things will be completely different...
But back to my main argument - what's your take on it? Cheap quads (or cheaper triples) , or expensive duals?
;)
Expensive duals by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Go figure
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ges/ep1920.gif
ya man this is why eye was waiting mars is gonna love E8700 :D...... or wait for the E8800 11 multi :ROTF:
You must mean the X5270's..3500/6mb/1333 10.5 multi 80w E0 step..:wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost_recon88
The next guy that posts flames against either company in this thread takes a hike for 30 days!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
ME ME!!! PICK ME PLEEEASE!!!
As my father used to say:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Your too willing! :rofl:
aahh hallmark among singlethreaded games!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
Ok, truth to be told physix does run on different thread, but it's so low load on CPU that it's insignificant above Low graphics settings!
interesting news from Intel
lets hope it does come out :up:
hey movieman
http://www.freefoto.com/images/33/15...exture_web.jpg
:rofl::D
btw i was thinking of ya the other day while pulling out a nice salmon off rocks :D
If Intel has put a page up like that, it means they at least have some E8700 ES chips floating around which is good enough for me! ;)
"That information was posted in error and we are not commenting on any plans we may or may not have for that unannounced SKU…"
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I hate when I make a typo and it turns into a web page with links and specs. Bah. Intel and I have something in common :p:
I stick to the theory that there are ES chips around...just gotta find em.
it got Fuggers attention so it has to be true lol
well im sure if intel put it up on the site they have already made them
and in that case if they dont release them oh well atleast we know they may have a a special weapon left for socket 775 and that is enough hope for me
Intel bloopers this year!
1. Core i7 940 extreme edition (the one on CPU-Z etc)
2. Q7500
3. E8700
4. Macadamia will run dual Xeons in the near future
Movieman take your pick :D
my tpower i45 is waiting for this e8700....
....about dual vs quad,no dude, for games ( and with high clocks dual core) is all 2009 to use easily ( game developers not run fast, some one say alan wake?...yeah sit and wait )...this is with E8400 soft oc,..with an e8700 maybe you can wait more fps,and of course more 3dmarks...
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4...22520lonw6.jpg
Same test, different flavour...Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...es/fc21280.gif
IMHO, Q9550, Q9400, and Phenom 2 quad and incoming triple core CPUs pwned any dualcore over 150 US$ today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Maybe Intel wants to offload some of the current stock first, before unleashing this beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by tool_462
I'm sure, or they want their recently announced/implemented price cuts to take affect a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
But just seeing that page tells me they do in fact have some coming off the line somewhere, and as you can see by my sig, I see a lot of CPUs so it isn't hard to find the one I want :) In this case an E8700 "Especial Super" edition as we like to call them.
Well if you prefer low image quality and no AA for +90FPS or more...Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
I pick #4 and give me 10 mins with ya and I'll talk you into it!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
+90FPS because the video card has to do less work. The first graph shows the system is GPU limited with Crysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
whatever,ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the E8700...
...the subzero chip
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8089/ipa6ucyk0.jpg
:D:D:D:D
Oh, I hope that isn't you... :p:
This thread is funny, and a perfect example of how the gaming tweens assume there is only one user profile for CPUs. This is a "better" value etc..
Gimme 12GB of buffered DDR3 and it's a deal :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Seriously the only thing stopping me is RAM availability. ECC Buffered is crazy expensive in Malaysia, and I'm just referring to the DDR2 version :rofl:
what wrong with Non-ECC ? those ECC are for servers and has no benefits for gaming/apps, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
OMG THAT REFERENCEQuote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
validates my childhood
They are talking about a server board.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowymainer
I do. It's a cheap replacement for my 6750 on my gaming rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Have not seen any official confirmation yet except some shop in far away Belgium (birth place of JcVD) has it listed with price € 259,90
I second that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
You can always order from US:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
It is so hard to get E8600 in malaysia:confused:
I really do hope E8700 will launch which mean i can get more lifespan out of my outdated Abit IP35 Pro:D
so this 8700 is confirmed or not= :P
Why do people feel the need to go into a thread about dual core processors and make a statement about quads being "better"? I can't imagine seeing a thread about a new quad and posting in it about how dual core is able to hit way higher frequency and still crushes quad in 50% of the popular benchmarks. Is that just insecurity, or is it ignorance to the fact that some enthusiasts may own ten duals and ten quads and use certain chips for certain tasks? Why is there a need to make a statement about what is the "better" choice? That assumes all of the readers share the same perspective. It's ANNOYING!
NOT. :D Teh SKU exists, but it is unannouced...it may never reach retail.Quote:
Originally Posted by KURTZ
argggggggg:mad: Chopper wants a new 8700 cpu !!!#:D
:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
i'm so used to doin 4.6 24/7 on air can't go back
only reason i will buy a quad would be for my son he gonna need a nice nahaleem with 12 gigs for video editing
a quad it useless to me all i do is game n workn surf
unless someone gives me a quad for 10$:rofl:
And I hope it never will :D I will never have a luck with that one as I had with E8600. It is too much to hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by KURTZ
Am I selfish :yepp:
hahaha; let's see that pic again :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
With some work, you might be able to get a Q9650 at 4.6ghz stable, 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
^
FSB2044 24/7 stable with a quad?
Do such things actually happen?
:rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
"<0" was my favourite character too!
I'm running fsb 2000 here with 8GBs on an x48 24/7, and this is not the highest stable clocked Q9650 around; I know shocking, considering the fact that much noise has not been made about this chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
I'd love one of these. 600x10.5 on the cascade would be sweet as :slobber: :D
i dont need to watch 2 cores play n 2 cores stay idleQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
when there is a real benefit for gaming then i will
but then i dont wanna play with water
i'm done with C2D and C2Q processors, this time my money hopefully
goes to core i7 (D0).