My CoolerMaster V10 Beta (56k warning seriously)

This is VERY close to the finished product and is intended to be a teaser for the finished product. Most of what you see will remain the same, of course some things will change as there was beta testing feedback ;).

First, the unboxing.

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Here are all of the specs about the cooler on the back.

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Lol just a teaser...

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There she is!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00149.jpg

Mounting Hardware(not finalized)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00150.jpg

Huge manual in like 8 languages...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00151.jpg

Super "special" thermalpaste sample :p: Thermalfusion 400

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Paper explaining TEC in multiple languages... for the noobies.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00153.jpg

Warranty Paper...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00154.jpg

Install Guide for all Socket Types...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00155.jpg

Included 1366 Bracket, in addition the the standard brackets included.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00156.jpg

Attachment Hardware

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00157.jpg

The other brackets for AMD.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00158.jpg

Bracket for Intel 775

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00159.jpg



And now... the Cooler itself in all its glory! :)

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The Underbelly with the TEC Coldplate!

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Top!

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Side of the Side Fan...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00166.jpg

And another top View.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00167.jpg
Install and clearance pictures in next post.

very nice bro... i want to try this.... very nice

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Originally Posted by punx223

very nice bro... i want to try this.... very nice

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You might have a chance to if i get setup with another beta. :)

Good god will it fit in a normal case. That thing is just a little to big for my liking, but hope it performs welll

Looks heavy.... Cant wait to see some stats

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Originally Posted by HuffPCair

Good god will it fit in a normal case. That thing is just a little to big for my liking, but hope it performs welll

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Great performance. I just have to gather the install pictures.

Yes its heavy the weight should be listed on the box. It has serious backplate retention that may even be improved. :)

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Originally Posted by Russian

You might have a chance to if i get setup with another beta. :)

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if so i might set it up on the test bench and see how far i can take it on my dual.... if tahts cool with you

Pull It Apart !!!!!

Is that like a 20 watt tec?

i bet it can't beat the true cu.....................

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Originally Posted by fragmasterMax

i bet it can't beat the true cu.....................

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actually his idle temps were almost ambient on his q9450


loaded was 46C... and this is in a closed case not a test bench either

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Originally Posted by STEvil

Is that like a 20 watt tec?

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50watt. :)

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Pull It Apart !!!!!

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There are pictures that have it pulled apart. I may nab them with the author's expressed permission. I dont feel like pulling mine apart. :p:

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Originally Posted by fragmasterMax

i bet it can't beat the true cu.....................

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Really? Copper or Regular?

I think someone who beta tested had one of these...

What case is it going in? Can't wait to see it installed! :D

Just recently bought a freezer extreme myself :)

Install pictures going up now...

Old installation(Zalman 9500LED, not 9700LED)
The intended purpose is to give you a size comparison since ive got a full tower case.

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And new!

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I actually had to chop off a little corner from my NB HS base on my X38 in order for the fan that is on the cooler not to hit it. This was done so i could install the cooler correctly, so anyone with this cooler be aware of this issue.

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This was definitely a CLOSE FIT. :p

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/DSC00194.jpg

Some ram clearance pictures with it installed, i apologize for not getting one from underneath the cooler. I'll try to get one of those later but there is PLENTY of room. Enough for dominators(confirmed).

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As you can see in the above picture there was a little sagging on the cooler when installed so i had to further tighten the brackets in order to make it not sag.

Rear fan clearance and Mosfet clearance.

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Some top clearance pictures...

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Final install pictures...

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Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana::banana::banana: that's a tight fit

ttinwoN:D:D:D

Can't wait to see V12 in action, V10 doesn't look like it would be much better cooling CPU than V8 apart from also cooling motherboard/RAM as well. V12 on the other hand looks like it could beat TRUE. :) Or seems like I'm maybe underestimating V10 a bit. :p:

Excellent pics btw. :up:

it´s a monster :up:
i like it :weapon: but this fenomen i dont like
Bigger is Better :rolleyes:

when im looing there it has for rams cooling? and they dont collisied whith high rams example Corsair Dominator DHX?

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Originally Posted by A2C

it´s a monster :up:
i like it :weapon: but this fenomen i dont like
Bigger is Better :rolleyes:

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Im quite sure that these screenshots speak for themselves.

The reason i am showing my temperatures in real temp as well as in everest is just so i could compare both programs since neither really gave me very reliable temperatures and i could do a comparison with my old cooler. The thing is, my CPU has some stuck sensors but i know which sensors arent lying to me. :p:

P.S. like a real OC'er i went with Realtemp.

Without further ado, here is a beta screenshot of the V10's performance with a Q9450 at stock clock speeds as well as stock voltage 1.25 :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...0benchnew2.jpg

Ram and 24pin Power Clearance Pictures As Promised!

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These coolers should be able to fit Dominator memory as you can see. But anything bigger than that is a no-go.

its looking realy good thx man :up:

38/45c under load, very nice.

Fyi guys here is another picture from another beta tester who has DDR3 Corsair with the HDX coolers on it... image courtesy of Cmyers.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../dominator.jpg

epic, cant wait to see some OC's :D

That thing looks fantastic!!! But I also believe the V12 is the one to rule them all... I think the V12 is a 8 heatpipe monster!

anyone know when the v10/12 retail? wherent both those at last years CES?... time to release em!

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anyone know when the v10/12 retail? wherent both those at last years CES?... time to release em!

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The V10 will be arriving within the next few weeks. :D

any results?

shouldn't the TEC be in direct contact to the ihs and then the pipes on the hot side of the tec? how is the gas inside the pipes able to work OK if you are cooling them? i know it has heat from the CPU but AFAIK pipes have its right them and that is not whem cooled by a tec

Hows the noise on this beast?

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Originally Posted by Russian

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...0benchnew2.jpg

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That compared to my TRUE120ex with a 1,000 RPM fan at Q6600stock, I believe the main temp difference is due to the 45nm process and lower stock VID but still a very good cooler by its own self, if i add an 800RPM fan on the TRUE id get a 2c flat reduction on the temps.

http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09046/stock_true120ex966.jpg

Holy crap i want one!

Any clue if it will fit in a Lian Li PC-A17B?
215mm x 440mm x 490mm ( W, H, D)

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Originally Posted by Demo

That compared to my TRUE120ex with a 1,000 RPM fan at Q6600stock, I believe the main temp difference is due to the 45nm process and lower stock VID but still a very good cooler by its own self, if i add an 800RPM fan on the TRUE id get a 2c flat reduction on the temps.

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You can't usefully compare temps between two Q6600s...let alone a Kents and a York! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Russian

Im quite sure that these screenshots speak for themselves.

The reason i am showing my temperatures in real temp as well as in everest is just so i could compare both programs since neither really gave me very reliable temperatures and i could do a comparison with my old cooler. The thing is, my CPU has some stuck sensors but i know which sensors arent lying to me. :p:

P.S. like a real OC'er i went with Realtemp.

Without further ado, here is a beta screenshot of the V10's performance with a Q9450 at stock clock speeds as well as stock voltage 1.25 :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...0benchnew2.jpg

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Tjmax for Q9xxx is 100C not 95C

here is mine Q9400 @ 3.2GHz with 1.25V under true black with scythe s-flex f @ 1200rpm

http://localhostr.com/files/e3f5bb/prime95.jpg

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Originally Posted by illidan

Tjmax for Q9xxx is 100C not 95C

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Is the 100c also applicable to the Q6600 ?

Holy Crap!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../th36_12_1.gif

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Originally Posted by Demo

Is the 100c also applicable to the Q6600 ?

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No a Q6600 is 90C.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

You can't usefully compare temps between two Q6600s...let alone a Kents and a York! :eek:

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Why can't two Q6600 be compared? :confused:

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Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Why can't two Q6600 be compared? :confused:

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They can...

But if you get 60C loaded temps with a TRUE with one and then 63C loaded with a V8 on another....that literally means nothing. If you're going to usefully compare HSFs, you must change only the HSF variable.

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Originally Posted by fatguy1992

No a Q6600 is 90C.



Why can't two Q6600 be compared? :confused:

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At 90c its only 1-2c above my ambient temp, so 90c is not valid and will never be.

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Originally Posted by Demo

At 90c its only 1-2c above my ambient temp, so 90c is not valid and will never be.

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Intel said it was 90C, so WTF :confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by Vapor

They can...

But if you get 60C loaded temps with a TRUE with one and then 63C loaded with a V8 on another....that literally means nothing. If you're going to usefully compare HSFs, you must change only the HSF variable.

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Ok I see.

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Originally Posted by Demo

At 90c its only 1-2c above my ambient temp, so 90c is not valid and will never be.

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The further you are from TjMax, the less accurate the sensor becomes :-/

The 'ambient-justify' method really is not the way to do it at all. Measuring delta from TjMax is basically all that matters--forget that it even "equates" to a number in Celsius.

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Originally Posted by Demo

At 90c its only 1-2c above my ambient temp, so 90c is not valid and will never be.

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Umm 90c = 194F doubt your ambient is that high:eek:

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Originally Posted by hutkikz

Umm 90c = 194F doubt your ambient is that high:eek:

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What meant was, that his core temps when the 90C Tj. Max were used were only a 1C to 2C above his room temp.

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Holy crap i want one!

Any clue if it will fit in a Lian Li PC-A17B?
215mm x 440mm x 490mm ( W, H, D)

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I have a LianLi rebadged Rocketfish that is supposedly based off your case. So i would say, yes.

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Originally Posted by illidan

Tjmax for Q9xxx is 100C not 95C

here is mine Q9400 @ 3.2GHz with 1.25V under true black with scythe s-flex f @ 1200rpm

http://localhostr.com/files/e3f5bb/prime95.jpg

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The weird thing about that, is that i had it set to 100 a while ago... :confused:

how much does that TEC even help anyway?

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how much does that TEC even help anyway?

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It keeps the temps low, and it helps keep the temperatures from slowly rising like some air coolers. I usually hit my max temp in about 15 minutes.

I think he's asking...if you turn it off, what happens to the temps? :p:

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Originally Posted by Vapor

I think he's asking...if you turn it off, what happens to the temps? :p:

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Well if you turn it off, logically, they go up. :p:

Here is your release date and Price!

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/85...ml?id=RAH5q2Aw

Reviews will be dropping soon!

Like Vapor was saying, it would nice to get direct comparison with same CPU and only
a different Cooler and same measured ambient, then you can reliably take the difference
from the two different coolers regardless of whether your sensors are good or bad.

Anyway, it's a huge cooler. I don't know if these will take off as to popular.

I'm more interested in the V12, it looks to have a rather more practical application.

I agree. but im not allowed to publish a head to head comparison as a beta tester. Im supposed to leave that to the "experienced reviewers" *roll eyes*

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Originally Posted by Russian

Well if you turn it off, logically, they go up. :p:

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Yeah, but the "how much" (at a range of heatloads) is the curious part :D

And JTFC that thing's expensive....I guess I won't be buying one to review after all :stick:

Want me to unplug it? :p

Might as well :yepp:

I already started running it without the TEC. its been a while but i know that i have to keep it on for a while in order for the temps to finally get settled. I'll post up a screen shot of my realtemp readings once its done.

I just found this info:

"Here is a little something to know about the V10

Don’t test with anything under Q6600. The reason is with the TEC... the chip isn’t hot enough to trigger it... so it will only give a 2-5 degree difference then another air cooler.

For example if you test with a E8400, the difference between a competitor cooler will be very little.
If you test with a QX9770 or Core I7 945 you will get a huge difference because the V10 has more heat to dissipate and the TEC will turn on.

It’s like a turbo car, you can drive a minivan and a STI all day at 50mph, but when you get to the highway or dragstrip the STI is faster because the “turbo” will turn on.

The TEC will not turn on unless the full heat potential is there. With a Phenom X4, or Core QX, or Core i7, you will have a more dramatic and proper effect since they are high heat. Higher the heat total... the more lead V10 will pull away from everything else and the hybrid mode will only work well with a cpu over Q6600 because the chip has to be very hot.

Remember the V10 can cool up to 300W but it will cool best only with Q6600 and above."

New Results with TEC off... they're definitely interesting...

MY CPU is fluctuating between 41 and 43C... on Prime Load.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...HMAFIA/air.jpg

The weird thing is that i was able to get the TEC to work before... its weird. I dont know what changed.

Strike that the TEC doesnt appear to be making any difference at all. I think i know what happened. I think my ambients are slightly lower now than they were before and that could possibly not be triggering the TEC. I really dont know what to think at this point.

pretty expansive, but i wil get one as soon as it comes to europe ;)

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New Results with TEC off... they're definitely interesting...

MY CPU is fluctuating between 41 and 43C... on Prime Load.

The weird thing is that i was able to get the TEC to work before... its weird. I dont know what changed.

Strike that the TEC doesnt appear to be making any difference at all. I think i know what happened. I think my ambients are slightly lower now than they were before and that could possibly not be triggering the TEC. I really dont know what to think at this point.

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Yeah, damn...no difference at all really. 57/57/50/50 vs. 58/58/50/50 :shrug:

Guess you're not turning the TEC on afterall? What if you crank up your CPU volts (just for the sake of creating heat)?

The more I look, the more interested I am in how this thing does. But I just can't be buggered to spend $140 on something I'll use once or twice that may or may not be a superior performer :shakes:

I've never had to crank up the volts much on this CPU whats the highest safe voltage i can hit(temperatures willing of course).

this cpu cooler looks like it might be very good. wish I could try one. got a true atm which does a great job at cooling my quad.

this one has a tec though :)

<<starts to dream

Judging by the fact that im getting a 42C on air with no TEC i cant even begin to fathom what kind of temps i need to get the TEC to trigger.

I thought i had it before...

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Originally Posted by Russian

Judging by the fact that im getting a 42C on air with no TEC i cant even begin to fathom what kind of temps i need to get the TEC to trigger.

I thought i had it before...

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Try 1.50v-1.55v if only for a short time. With them temps you're getting there won't be any issues. I'd expect the tec to be used then.

I take it the tec is sensor controlled with no over-ride?

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Originally Posted by KELL5

Try 1.50v-1.55v if only for a short time. With them temps you're getting there won't be any issues. I'd expect the tec to be used then.

I take it the tec is sensor controlled with no over-ride?

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Pretty much. I was thinking about making a switch or something. :p:

I'll try the updated voltages tomorrow(today) when i get back from class.

Sweet! Santa Ana has started which means even higher ambient temps! Its going to be a bit tough doing an exact comparison so ill have to test air again and then try with TEC.

Well the $150 price tag kind of kills the value on this. You could watercool the cpu for around that price and get better temps:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecod4.html

Looks cool though and not everyone likes the idea of watercooling, so this might be the better alternative.

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Well the $150 price tag kind of kills the value on this. You could watercool the cpu for around that price and get better temps:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecod4.html

Looks cool though and not everyone likes the idea of watercooling, so this might be the better alternative.

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Its 140, and it cools your ram VERY well.

So much so that my ram was very warm before getting this cooler and now its ice cold even when the ram is running fully loaded.

Did some more testing today and i have confirmed that i was able to trigger the TEC to 50%. What appears to be happening is that the TEC cools to a certain point and then once it sits there for a bit the sensor cools down and shuts the TEC off so that explains my fluctuation in temperatures. I am once again sitting at 44C even though ive been running prime for over an hour. My temperature delta appears to be 8C. So my CPU gets up to 51C and then it appears that the TEC kicks back on and brings it down to 44C.

crazy huge heatsink... I too am interested to see how V12 will perform though...

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Originally Posted by Russian

50watt. :)

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coulda swarn i read it was 65 watt.

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Originally Posted by Chruschef

coulda swarn i read it was 65 watt.

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Its actually 70, typo.

jojojojo That is a monster

Very Nice

I have da V8 :cool:

The size is insane, I don't think I'd want that hanging on my motherboard. Plus if I was going to spend that much I would go with water since I think it would be more fun to build a loop.

wow nice informative thread pictures are H U G E and the pics are so clear ,so glad im not on 56k lol. I might have to look into getting one of these things my self it realy looks bad a**!!!

What size is the Peltier Coolermaster V10?

40mm if I'm correct

Going to change it with the 138w Peltier ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-PCS---138W-Pel...25156001r38110

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Going to change it with the 138w Peltier ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-PCS---138W-Pel...25156001r38110

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Nice find. But if i did indeed use this i would have to insulate the board... :rofl:

It would be a fun project to do one a test system, but i dont have one of those right now. :(

It condensation if you put directly to 12v ?