Water Block for GTX 295

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01-08-2009, 09:59 AM
mpower1001

Water Block for GTX 295

I know its early but i'm wondering how close someone is on making a water block for this beast :shrug:

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...001/header.jpg
01-08-2009, 10:05 AM
theseeker

Have they been released?
01-08-2009, 10:07 AM
mpower1001

Yes they have

Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130439
Tigerdirect: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=E145-0297
EVGA: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinf...017-P3-1292-AR
01-08-2009, 10:08 AM
biggles1

Yepp, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=213798
01-08-2009, 10:14 AM
NaeKuh

its gonna be like the 9800GX2 block.

BIG BLOCK in the middle cooling both cards.

Weee, were back to 2kg cards again.
01-08-2009, 10:29 AM
R0bert

Quote:

R0bert: Sure, we will make the blocks, as soon as we get the cards. ATM looking for a good connection to get the graphic card(s) ASAP.

That was Eddy's answer from EK to my question about blocks for GTX 285,295 and 55nm 260's.
01-08-2009, 10:30 AM
LockBreaker

Yup, they are released. :D

Some Norwegian shops do got them in stock allready. :D
01-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Shoggy

We are already working on a block:

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/g295_web_1.jpg

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/g295_web_2.jpg

Ehhh, three threads :confused: ;)
Well, that's a nice feature: you will be able to choose if the water should run parallel or one after another through the blocks.
01-08-2009, 10:42 AM
HuffPCair

Nice looking block cant wait to see how it performs
01-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Shoggy

You can use elbow connectors. A twinConnect kit for this block won't work ;)
01-08-2009, 11:14 AM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuffPCair

Nice looking block cant wait to see how it performs

wait til you see the price. :rofl:
01-08-2009, 11:38 AM
metachronos

I remember with the old 9850 GX2's, people were able to fit a fullcover block inside the shell of the stock cooler. It looked really cool, hopefully they can do the same with these.
01-08-2009, 11:56 AM
LockBreaker

9850 GX2? What GPU is that? Shure you dont mean the 9800 GX2? :)

Something that confuses me about that AC block though. Why is there three threads? That's one to much for my advanced mathematic skills. :p:

But nice block though. Looking good. =)
01-08-2009, 12:22 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

9850 GX2? What GPU is that? Shure you dont mean the 9800 GX2? :)

Something that confuses me about that AC block though. Why is there three threads? That's one to much for my advanced mathematic skills. :p:

But nice block though. Looking good. =)

they screw on the outside.

you take off the EVGA case the card has.

installation i bet will be near identical to the GX2

I have one, so im LOLing at the massive weight package these suckers are gonna come at again.

At times like you you call guys like Andy a WHORE for having horizontal mounted motherboard systems.. :rofl:

You know im just messing with ya andy, i love your banchetto, too bad it wont fit in my budget right now. :\
01-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Shoggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Something that confuses me about that AC block though. Why is there three threads? That's one to much for my advanced mathematic skills. :p

Have you seen the text below the pictures? :rolleyes:
01-08-2009, 12:31 PM
NaeKuh

here this picture should clear it all up.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0070.jpg

the cards sandwitch the block.

i bet you guys dean is already cooking something up from koolance. (dean common pwn us here!)

DD probably already has one made too for BFG. (DB you whore i know you got one show it off already)
01-08-2009, 12:41 PM
veedubfreak

Evga was pretty quick with their block last time. Seeing as they probably get their hands on the cards long before any of the aftermarket cooling guys can, i wouldnt be suprised to see another evga block out soon.
01-08-2009, 12:43 PM
coolmiester

I realise this type of card makes for a big heavy block but for some reason i love the whole concept so cant wait for the BIG players to show their blocks.

Bring it on :up:
01-08-2009, 02:26 PM
Aqua-Pc's

Good to see AC rapid as ever!
01-08-2009, 02:29 PM
BlueAqua

I still like my 9800gx2 and Ek block. It's been running like a champ for months now. The Aqua Computer block looks pretty nice, and it's nice to see something so early.
01-08-2009, 03:10 PM
LockBreaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoggy

Have you seen the text below the pictures? :rolleyes:

Yup, I've seen that, but I'm still confused. :D

Watercooling noob you see! :p:
01-08-2009, 03:28 PM
Shoggy

The upper and lower copper blocks have their own waterchannels. So it is like two blocks in one, and you can decide how the water should run through them. For a parallel flow you will need a T-connector; otherwise the third thread is sealed with a cap which comes with the block.
01-08-2009, 04:23 PM
mpower1001

That's a pretty cool design shoggy...

Do you have ETA?
01-08-2009, 05:30 PM
Shoggy

Not for sure because Monday will be my first day in the company this year :D

Maybe at the end of the next week.
01-08-2009, 09:58 PM
FrostyPanda

Damn I'm excited....
01-08-2009, 10:00 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...001/header.jpg

UNRIVALED!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:
01-08-2009, 11:09 PM
LockBreaker

I received an E-mail from EK today, and they said they would probably have a block for the GTX 295 ready within two weeks. :)

Hopefully. :)
01-09-2009, 05:25 AM
mpower1001

Thanks lockbreaker for the info
01-09-2009, 05:29 AM
exe163

$200 at least is my guess...Hard to believe why anyone would jump on this refresh.
01-09-2009, 05:32 AM
Sadasius

Quote:

Originally Posted by exe163

$200 at least is my guess...Hard to believe why anyone would jump on this refresh.

No kidding! Talk about slow progress in innovation.
01-09-2009, 05:44 AM
mpower1001

Quote:

Originally Posted by exe163

$200 at least is my guess...

If that's the case, it would be $700 for a water cooled GTX 295

Imagine how much for quad sli :sofa:
01-09-2009, 05:49 AM
PsYcHoNo0b727

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpower1001

If that's the case, it would be $700 for a water cooled GTX 295

Imagine how much for quad sli :sofa:

SHHHH the $700 will help the economy :rolleyes:
01-09-2009, 06:46 AM
Stealth42o

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcHoNo0b727

SHHHH the $700 will help the economy :rolleyes:

:rofl::ROTF:
01-09-2009, 08:37 AM
DeanB

Well I received confirmation today that we will have 285 and 295 blocks, we should see them available in 2-3 weeks :D.

No pictures yet though.
01-09-2009, 10:35 AM
LockBreaker

Come on Dean. :D

Show us some pics/skethces, even though you don't have any. :D
01-09-2009, 12:02 PM
funk32

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

I received an E-mail from EK today, and they said they would probably have a block for the GTX 295 ready within two weeks. :)

Hopefully. :)

thanks for the Info my gtx 295+ comes in today. and i just placed a order to EK for all the water blocks for my R2E, just waiting for them to show up.
01-09-2009, 01:45 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpower1001

If that's the case, it would be $700 for a water cooled GTX 295

Imagine how much for quad sli :sofa:

People will buy it.

Hell, im running a 1100 dollar GPU sector with X2's on Xfire.
01-09-2009, 06:30 PM
Aberration

Swiftech has a good approach on the 4870 with the MCW60-4870. Maybe the same principle can be modified and applied to cut down on the amount of material needed.
01-09-2009, 06:52 PM
Patriote

Paid 1400$ for my 8800GTX OC2 and 2 Ek FC Blocks back in the days... So it should be around that price for Quad SLI... ?
01-09-2009, 07:00 PM
theseeker

Just my 2 cents. Two 280's will outperform a 295 @ about the same cost give or take a few bucks. The 295 is not worth the money and simply a way for nV to compete with ATI based on a single card solution.
I recently upgraded from two 8800 GTX's to two 280's mainly because I wanted to drive a 30" screen with all possible eye candy, and it worked.
nV always finds a way to support the SLI configs.
The 295 is a band-aid and a way to sell VC's. The VC producers always find a way to bridge the gap between the next gen proc's.
No matter what you do or what you build, the next gen is right around the corner. Once again just my 2 cents.
01-09-2009, 08:07 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

Not sure where your buying your V Cards, but that's a whole lot of give and take to the tune of 200.00 USD. I don't disagree about 2 280's beating 1 295, but that's hardly apples to apples comparision. If the 280 was worth 500.00 when it first came out, a 295 damn sure is. No V Card maker is going to double performance from one generation card to the next, those days are long gone if they ever existed.

andyc

too bad for nvidia the 4870x2 beats the 295 clearly when using 1680x1050 or higher.

August 2008 released 4870x2 > January 09 released 295 = epic nvidia fail
01-09-2009, 08:13 PM
dengyong

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

too bad for nvidia the 4870x2 beats the 295 clearly when using 1680x1050 or higher.

August 2008 released 4870x2 > January 09 released 295 = epic nvidia fail

That was random. Attachment 92619
01-09-2009, 08:21 PM
shoopdawoopa

dont be hatin sniipe
01-09-2009, 08:39 PM
tsukuyomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoopdawoopa

dont be hatin sniipe

since when does speaking the truth fall into the hate category ? :shrug:
01-09-2009, 08:45 PM
theseeker

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

Not sure where your buying your V Cards, but that's a whole lot of give and take to the tune of 200.00 USD. I don't disagree about 2 280's beating 1 295, but that's hardly apples to apples comparision. If the 280 was worth 500.00 when it first came out, a 295 damn sure is. No V Card maker is going to double performance from one generation card to the next, those days are long gone if they ever existed.

andyc

It helps to be a long term buyer, double discount coupons and the code.:up:
01-09-2009, 08:53 PM
jasonelmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsukuyomi

since when does speaking the truth fall into the hate category ? :shrug:

since hell froze over and pigs started flying

Snipe When UPS brings mine Tuesday we'll have my card against yours on all the games we both have. 1650x1280 and 1920x1080 8XAA in any game you want
01-09-2009, 09:14 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonelmore

since hell froze over and pigs started flying

Snipe When UPS brings mine Tuesday we'll have my card against yours on all the games we both have. 1650x1280 and 1920x1080 8XAA in any game you want

so you cant read reviews? our systems are hardly equal... although I guess I'll go for it

read it and weep, you picked the wrong card: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=213789
01-09-2009, 09:21 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

I just read one on Guru3D and I didn't see where the red card beat the green card, other way around on most games at high res. 295 looks like a big win for Nvidia to me.

andyc

read the one that has the new ATI drivers, big difference there, really big.
01-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Waxking1

Snipedog,
You really are a Fanboy. The 4870x2 is a very good card, but the GTX 295 seems to beat it in most of the reviews I've seen.

Personally, I hope ATI comes back with something better and the competition for the best card continues. Its the best thing for the end users.
01-09-2009, 11:26 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waxking1

Snipedog,
You really are a Fanboy. The 4870x2 is a very good card, but the GTX 295 seems to beat it in most of the reviews I've seen.

Personally, I hope ATI comes back with something better and the competition for the best card continues. Its the best thing for the end users.

..................Compubase.de review.......kthxbye

its the frambuffer issues all over again :lol:
01-09-2009, 11:32 PM
jasonelmore

Dude that review is the biggest piece of horse :banana::banana::banana::banana: I've seen. Estimated benchmarks and testing on a unreleased or unleaked driver that probably hacked image quality down to get those improvements if they are even true. You have one review or one preview of something in your favor.. Big deal. Want me to show you 20 other reviews in the 295's favor? the title of the subject says it all "Computer Based"
The 295's on it's first or second driver release. Give em time to optimize. Why is it that these guys are the only place that have showed the results? How come anandtech, toms, pcgh, Hardocp, hardwarecanucks have'nt posted anything like this yet?
01-09-2009, 11:44 PM
jasonelmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

compubase is the name of the website you idiot, they did real tests... and until other sites have 9.1 I would say that is the most legitimate. And don't give me a list of 20 previews cuz we all know previews from any company are BS

/end involvement in thread because I'm not getting into this again with you.

No these are reviews and not previews. I'm not a fanboy either way but just the sheer biased opinion you bring to every nvidia thread pisses me off. But i'm done with it also.

http://en.expreview.com/2009/01/09/r...he-throne.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/863/1/
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=612
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...ews/bfggtx295/
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...a_gtx295_full/
http://www.technic3d.com/article-803...ble-impact.htm
http://www.hartware.de/review_891.html
01-10-2009, 02:45 AM
Shoggy

Hehe, too funny :D

Since I'm from Germany I know computerbase.de for sure and can only tell you that it is one of our biggest news and most detailed reviews site here.
01-10-2009, 05:31 AM
exe163

Jason, half the links you supplied did not work, and the rest doesn't give a direct comparison to 4870x2. What gives?
01-10-2009, 07:14 AM
BringerOdeath

I am getting 2 gtx 295 this coming week, so lets see how this goes jason....
01-10-2009, 08:55 AM
Waxking1

Here's another link which compares the 295 to the 4870x2. I think their conclusion is fairly obvious.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...95-review-bfg/
01-10-2009, 09:17 AM
dengyong

The answer is clear, if you want the gtx295 to be the irrefutable best card in the world, just give one to snipe.
01-10-2009, 09:39 AM
funk32

this thread was to talk about water blocks for the GTX 295 and not to talk about which card is best. can we stay on topic plz
01-11-2009, 11:26 PM
ranker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoggy

We are already working on a block:

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/g295_web_1.jpg

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/g295_web_2.jpg

Ehhh, three threads :confused: ;)
Well, that's a nice feature: you will be able to choose if the water should run parallel or one after another through the blocks.

Can we get an estimated MSRP, availability stateside date, and some performance curves? You know, the important info. Thanks.
01-12-2009, 02:15 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

compubase is the name of the website you idiot, they did real tests... and until other sites have 9.1 I would say that is the most legitimate. And don't give me a list of 20 previews cuz we all know previews from any company are BS

/end involvement in thread because I'm not getting into this again with you.

NOT NEEDED!
Make your point without attacking the other person.
Now I'm off, time to leave beautiful Las Vegas and go back to ice cold New Hampshire.:(
01-12-2009, 03:52 PM
ranker

Having both cards, I'll have to say that my 295GTX benches faster for over 80% of my games/situations. The only game that swings in ATI's favor consistently is Bioshock.

Brand loyalty be damned. Give me the best performing product. At the moment the 295GTX is the best card on the market for 80% of the games I play. My only complaint is the price. I would have hoped to have seen this card come in at $400, especially when the next gen cards are coming in the 3rd quarter.

Anyhow, who's gonna hit the market first with a WC block? I know AC and EK are working on one. Anyone have an ETA for US stores for their blocks? Also, will Swiftech or Dtek be releasing a block for this beast? Having a loud fan in my completely WC'ed system is really annoying me to no end.
01-18-2009, 09:00 AM
Anemone

I'm getting one - the waterblocks will come I think.
01-18-2009, 11:08 AM
dM@n

Danger-Den is making a block also. [DD] Jerm posted this on the website on Friday:

Quote:

We are doing the final test fits on the new Nvidia GTX295...hope to have this available late next week! Pictures will be posted hopefully in the next couple days!

The GTX285 will be soon after the GTX295. Just doing some final measurements on it :)
01-18-2009, 11:58 AM
ranker

Quote:

Originally Posted by dM@n

Danger-Den is making a block also. [DD] Jerm posted this on the website on Friday:

Fantastic. Any sketches or pricing?

Can anyone comment on the quality of DD's full cover blocks since the 8800 debacle? I'll have to admit I lost faith after their 8800 blocks. How did their FC blocks compare since then?
01-18-2009, 12:03 PM
ProtoTyper

DD is getting better and better these days.
01-18-2009, 01:12 PM
aspire.comptech

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProtoTyper

DD is getting better and better these days.

Still haven't seen a new CPU block come out of their shop in what, 2 years?
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
mele

What was wrong with the Danger Den 8800GTX blocks????

Never had a problem with mine.

I have one on my 8800GTX now and at load it only gets up to 53c max and that's overclocked to 650?
01-18-2009, 04:34 PM
ranker

Quote:

Originally Posted by mele

What was wrong with the Danger Den 8800GTX blocks????

Never had a problem with mine.

I have one on my 8800GTX now and at load it only gets up to 53c max and that's overclocked to 650?

A certain batch had microfracture leaks. In addition, the quality of the craftsmanship left something to be desired when compared to the work that then newcoming EK had created. Quite frankly, as an OG DD purchaser, I was greatly disappointed with the block and promptly resold it. Anyhow, that was then, I'm hoping their recent blocks have stood up well since I'll most likely pick up the first 295 block that hits the market.
01-18-2009, 05:30 PM
dM@n

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranker

Fantastic. Any sketches or pricing?

Sadly, no. You gotta wait for 'em. ;)
01-19-2009, 01:57 AM
LockBreaker

I think I will be buying the one from Aquacomputer. That thing looks insane. :)

If it's not too pricey though..... :)
01-19-2009, 02:31 AM
exe163

If you could afford the card, I am pretty sure WC price won't be a problem.
01-19-2009, 07:37 AM
nebj00la

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

here this picture should clear it all up.

DD probably already has one made too for BFG. (DB you whore i know you got one show it off already)

I called Jeremy the other day to show him how BFG is starting their own line of PC's with self contained cooling units. I didn't ask if he was making a block for them, but it seemed kind of awkward they went with someone else all of the sudden.
01-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Shoggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

If it's not too pricey though..... :)

Got a price now.

129.90 EUR => ~171.22 USD within EU => ~143.88 USD outside EU
01-19-2009, 04:56 PM
ranker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoggy

Got a price now.

129.90 EUR => ~171.22 USD within EU => ~143.88 USD outside EU

Thanks for the price Shoggy. My only questions left are 1) Are there any mixed metals in this block? 2) Any performance data?

Thanks.
01-19-2009, 05:46 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebj00la

I called Jeremy the other day to show him how BFG is starting their own line of PC's with self contained cooling units. I didn't ask if he was making a block for them, but it seemed kind of awkward they went with someone else all of the sudden.

BFG is going the n00b wai by using Cool It stuff . . .ok if you are doing a SMALL case where you just do not have room for a proper radiator but the Phobos case is large enough to do proper water-cooling. Lame. This does not mean they will not still sell the GPUs with the blocks from the factory (different market guys). I doubt the Phobos will be long for this world anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspire.comptech

Still haven't seen a new CPU block come out of their shop in what, 2 years?

Is there something wrong with the MC-TDX? They are offering two 1366 variations (I am using the one with the chipset bottom).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranker

Fantastic. Any sketches or pricing?

Can anyone comment on the quality of DD's full cover blocks since the 8800 debacle? I'll have to admit I lost faith after their 8800 blocks. How did their FC blocks compare since then?

I saw the DD block on a 295 this weekend. Their post 8800 blocks are totally different (they went back to the superior design they used before that series).
01-20-2009, 04:54 AM
JOCKTHEGLIDE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoggy

Got a price now.

129.90 EUR => ~171.22 USD within EU => ~143.88 USD outside EU

NICE.......when can we buy through you????
01-20-2009, 07:21 AM
Shoggy

You can already preorder :)
01-21-2009, 08:08 AM
Eddy_EK

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Heh, preorder, without even a real picture :P
I don't kow how is with such direct advertising here in this forum... Admins?

OK now to real pictures... And the thing that newbies will probably like the most... Stand-offs.

PS: The picture of the contact is not the real contact that block will achieve when mounted with stand-offs. It is only for informational purpose.
01-21-2009, 08:12 AM
LogAn'sRun

sweet!
01-21-2009, 08:14 AM
DarthBeavis

Sweet looking block Eddy!
01-21-2009, 08:23 AM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

Wow,

Now that compels me to replace the 280's I have on the main rig. That's all I've been waiting on myself, the right blocks for the 295's. Anyone want a couple of cherry used 280's with FC blocks installed let me know. They are two sweet cards:D

andyc

Andy post them for sale over at the PDXLAN for sale forums bud.
01-21-2009, 09:23 AM
ranker

In for two Eddy. Now get them shipped over here Stateside asap!
01-21-2009, 09:51 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

Wow,

Now that compels me to replace the 280's I have on the main rig. That's all I've been waiting on myself, the right blocks for the 295's. Anyone want a couple of cherry used 280's with FC blocks installed let me know. They are two sweet cards:D

andyc

why would you replace your two 280's that outperform a 295? quad SLI is hella broke....
01-21-2009, 10:02 AM
DeanB

Just as an FYI, the Koolance blocks should be available on the website this weekend. Also watch your favorite resellers if we are out of stock ;)
01-21-2009, 10:12 AM
jasonelmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

why would you replace your two 280's that outperform a 295? quad SLI is hella broke....

Probably because he's a cruncher.
01-21-2009, 10:15 AM
NiscoRacing

And what will it cost me then :shrug:
01-21-2009, 11:14 AM
teknokid

Ooh, blocks look nice.

Aqua-pcs.co.uk noe have the EK block on Pre-order :D
01-21-2009, 11:41 AM
Shoggy

Currently we have just tooooo much work here :D

Before I left I took these two pictures:

http://ac.shoggy.de/aquagrafx_gtx295_1.jpg

http://ac.shoggy.de/aquagrafx_gtx295_2.jpg
01-21-2009, 11:46 AM
DarthBeavis

Can u explain teh 3 hole config on top?
01-21-2009, 11:47 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

Oh man, not this again. Pure BS. But whatever it takes to get you out of bed in the morning is fine by me, FUD away.

andyc

why so harsh? your 280's are better than 1 295..... quad gpu on ati or nvidia is terribly broken and I would never use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonelmore

Probably because he's a cruncher.

true true, didn't think of that.
01-21-2009, 11:54 AM
Metric

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

Can u explain teh 3 hole config on top?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoggy

Well, that's a nice feature: you will be able to choose if the water should run parallel or one after another through the blocks.

The only 'aesthetic' problem I see with the current layout, people not running inverted ATX (as shown) will have an upside-down logo on the block :S
Edit: Funny, the concept design earlier in this thread and the photos taken have the logos on the opposite side?...
01-21-2009, 12:19 PM
Shoggy

Don't worry. The final version will have the "correct" orientation.

For our interal use we put it this way.

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