Seasonic 750w Explodes

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12-20-2008, 07:43 PM
OS-Wiz

Seasonic 750w Explodes

I just had a SeaSonic M12D SS-750 750W PSU blow up not more than two feet from my head :eek: Big explosion and some fireworks. Scared the hell outta me. I'd never had a PSU cap blow on me and I musta jumped a foot straight up :ROTF: It lived for about 15 secs.
Needless to say I'll not be ordering another SeaSonic :down:
I'd done some research and the PSU was getting some good reviews; maybe I just got a bad one. Regardless, I ordered an Antec Signature 850W to replace it.
Anyway, newegg was very good about it; they are going to refund shipping costs here and back and no restocking fee! Gotta luv that newegg customer service.
12-20-2008, 07:53 PM
Klarko

damn your lucky!! Hopefully that never happens again :)
12-20-2008, 08:05 PM
atomic ferret

That sucks big time. I have heard good things about Seasonics, you probs just got a lemon.
12-20-2008, 08:18 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

I've owned a seasonic 650watt psu for years. It's awesome.

Get a new one. I doubt it would happen again.

You're lucky, sorry to hear about that. How's your hearing?
12-20-2008, 08:52 PM
elpibe10

I've experienced something similar with another brand of psu and the culprit was a spider that managed to crawl inside and electrocuted itself (and took the psu and mobo with it in the process). :(
12-20-2008, 08:56 PM
Sparky

Sounds like a dud. Every company has a dud. I wouldn't write them off over one dud.
12-20-2008, 09:24 PM
YukonTrooper

I say just RMA it for the same model. Like Sparky said, there are always duds. Seasonic makes solid PSU's.
12-20-2008, 09:40 PM
Bobsama

Truth be told, I've never heard a bad thing about Seasonic. There are always duds, so give them a chance. Anyways--I'd say RMA and explain the failure. Oh, and can we get pictures of the destruction? ;)
12-20-2008, 09:55 PM
Aleki

every once in a while you will hear about this. including the pc power and cooling 750w silencer which is a seasonic build (almost bought this). ended up going with a corsair 750tx since they were nearly identical to the PCP&C, far quieter and came out to 70 bucks after rebate. so far, this thing kicks my GXS700's ass in all departments :)

BTW: how do you like the 850? jonnyguru gave it a 10 in performance, which is something you dont see every day
12-20-2008, 09:57 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic ferret

That sucks big time. I have heard good things about Seasonics, you probs just got a lemon.

Over at the egg I'm the three buyer to have one blow up!
12-20-2008, 09:58 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller

How's your hearing?

I'm half deaf anyway and didn't have my hearing aids in :rofl:
12-20-2008, 10:00 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsama

Oh, and can we get pictures of the destruction? ;)

Already packed up and ready to go back to newegg. No visible signs of damage to its casing and didn't want to mess around opening it up.
12-20-2008, 10:03 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleki

BTW: how do you like the 850? jonnyguru gave it a 10 in performance, which is something you dont see every day

Hasn't gotten here yet, Monday or Tuesday probably. jonnyguru's praise was main reason for getting it :yepp:
12-20-2008, 10:03 PM
road-runner

Antecs are built by seasonic also aren't they? I had a 500w Atec blow up about 2 years ago...
12-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Bobsama

The Signature 850 is Delta-built. Anyways--3rd of 3 to have a problem or just 3rd period? Could be a bad lot.
12-20-2008, 10:22 PM
Thumbs Up

Quote:

Originally Posted by elpibe10

I've experienced something similar with another brand of psu and the culprit was a spider that managed to crawl inside and electrocuted itself (and took the psu and mobo with it in the process). :(

Owned.

Anyway, yeah Seasonic have been getting some good reviews. You probably got a really bad one.
Hey, atleast your getting a refund.:up:
12-20-2008, 10:52 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsama

The Signature 850 is Delta-built. Anyways--3rd of 3 to have a problem or just 3rd period? Could be a bad lot.

My review will be the third one, if they post it.
12-20-2008, 10:58 PM
vengance_01

Don't buy any Corsair HX units. Seasonic makes good stuff. Just RMA it and be done. Things happen.
12-21-2008, 12:24 AM
reberto

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Don't buy any Corsair HX units. Seasonic makes good stuff. Just RMA it and be done. Things happen.

Why shouldn't we by any HX units which are said/rated as some of the best modular PSUs on the market? Not to mention made by Seasonic (I think the HX1000 is CWT though, but also amazing).
12-21-2008, 02:01 AM
Glow9

Pics?
12-21-2008, 03:37 AM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow9

Pics?

re-read thread.
12-21-2008, 04:12 PM
CodeNinja

Quote:

Originally Posted by reberto

Why shouldn't we by any HX units which are said/rated as some of the best modular PSUs on the market? Not to mention made by Seasonic (I think the HX1000 is CWT though, but also amazing).

I was wondering this myself. :confused:

The HX520 I put in my brother's system seemed like a very nice supply.
12-21-2008, 05:29 PM
RADCOM

What causes a power supply to blow? A short by a spider ( I thought that would just cause a little fizzt unless it was a tarantula lol) More likely to be bad caps, metal shard or screw in the psu or badly soldered wire coming loose? The most common one in the UK is accidentallly switching PSU to 110V supply
12-21-2008, 05:38 PM
Serpentarius

scary .. the only thing i experience before is the little fireworks sparks and it was dead
it was a Fortron psu
12-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Oklahoma Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS-Wiz

jonnyguru's praise was main reason for getting it :yepp:

[nitpick]
That would be me who wrote the review... jonnyGURU's retired ;)
[/nitpick]

In an astonishing coincidence, that seems to be an SG-850 in my sig powering my main rig. I wonder how that could have happened :D
12-21-2008, 07:17 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

[nitpick]
That would be me who wrote the review... jonnyGURU's retired ;)
[/nitpick]

In an astonishing coincidence, that seems to be an SG-850 in my sig powering my main rig. I wonder how that could have happened :D

Ah ha, the wolf strikes :D Outstanding choice in a PSU :up:
12-22-2008, 08:52 AM
Russ_64

If it was new then maybe it took a hard knock in transit. I had an Antec Truepower 550 blow up on me after a house move ...... replacement Seasonic S12 600 is still going strong.
12-22-2008, 09:28 AM
moiraesfate

I didn't know it was possible for them to explode like that. Fry, yes, but explode? Lucky you weren't hurt.

Don't write off Seasonic for one psu. Thats probably one in a million thing.
12-22-2008, 12:52 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by moiraesfate

I didn't know it was possible for them to explode like that. Fry, yes, but explode? Lucky you weren't hurt.

Don't write off Seasonic for one psu. Thats probably one in a million thing.

Read this, all three of us that ordered one had it blow up! :down:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151068
12-22-2008, 02:05 PM
Oklahoma Wolf

Trusting Newegg reviews for reliability info is like trusting Enron for stock tips though. Anyone with a keyboard can write those things.
12-22-2008, 04:05 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

Trusting Newegg reviews for reliability info is like trusting Enron for stock tips though. Anyone with a keyboard can write those things.

Agreed, but 3 outta 3 says something. And I agree that Seasonic makes good PSUs, I've had one running in the PC I built for my son for a couple years now. But I think their first DC-to-DC (M12D) attempt has, at best, been a shakey start.
12-22-2008, 04:13 PM
Oklahoma Wolf

Not really... it just says that three people had their units die and decided to go make their opinions known. There could be 300 or 1000 positive experiences to those three negatives you didn't hear about ;)

When everything's working right, most people usually don't think twice about it. Something goes wrong, suddenly they're all over the message boards telling others about it. In general, Seasonic is well above average in reliability. The RMA replacement is very, very unlikely to have a problem.

Ah, the M12D. That there is an interesting case. Got a review on it scheduled for the 26th at jonnyGURU.com. Lots of interesting stuff to talk about on that one.
12-22-2008, 08:46 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Don't buy any Corsair HX units. Seasonic makes good stuff. Just RMA it and be done. Things happen.

Why not? :shrug: jonnyguru gave them good reviews and I have one too and am very pleased with it.
12-22-2008, 08:50 PM
shanems3

Quote:

Originally Posted by elpibe10

I've experienced something similar with another brand of psu and the culprit was a spider that managed to crawl inside and electrocuted itself (and took the psu and mobo with it in the process). :(

how did you find out it was a spider, if it blew, wouldnt it zap the critter??
12-22-2008, 08:54 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanems3

how did you find out it was a spider, if it blew, wouldnt it zap the critter??

SPIDER GUTS! :p:
12-23-2008, 03:21 AM
largon

Where's jonnyguru's (as in the site) review of Seasonic M12D?
Was their sample DOA, perhaps?
:p:
12-23-2008, 05:42 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

It's coming on Friday.
12-23-2008, 05:46 AM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Why not? :shrug: jonnyguru gave them good reviews and I have one too and am very pleased with it.

well i have a corsair HX1000 and i already have a thread about this - im getting a burning smell running the components in my sig. shouldnt be anywhere close to taxing my psu - i have submitted an RMA a week ago and have yet to hear back from them.

i might not buy another corsair either, depending on the outcome of this one. the no response is not helping any. in the meantime im without a pc unless i just bite the bullet and get another psu - the antec 850 that everyone is talking about looks nice but they have a bad rep and i dont know if i want to take the chance:shrug:
12-23-2008, 06:10 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

You have noticed what time of year it is, haven't you? A lot of companies are running on reduced hours this week, and/or are busier around the holidays.

As for the Antec, if I had any doubts about it, it wouldn't be in my main rig right now. It's the best unit I've ever reviewed. When/if I find something better, that one will go into my main rig. I must admit though - those big Ikoniks came real close.
12-23-2008, 06:18 AM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

You have noticed what time of year it is, haven't you? A lot of companies are running on reduced hours this week, and/or are busier around the holidays.

As for the Antec, if I had any doubts about it, it wouldn't be in my main rig right now. It's the best unit I've ever reviewed. When/if I find something better, that one will go into my main rig. I must admit though - those big Ikoniks came real close.

its tempting to get the antec, i remember you from anandtech if i remember correctly.

whats the unit called again? do you have a link to the review?
do you think it'll handle a CF setup?

the major name brands i've had so far are silverstone 750, corsair hx1000, pc power and cooling silencer 750 - the only one not to give me trouble so far is the pc power and cooling. the silverstone is long gone (popped from a previous CF setup) and the corsair is flaking out with burning wire smell with the current setup. i swear i have bad luck with psu's and i DONT EVEN OVERCLOCK.
i might check out this antec thats getting these praises
12-23-2008, 06:59 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

Here you go: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=101

Yes, it will do Crossfire. With 4870x2 cards if you want it to.

Actually, I don't post on Anandtech. This forum, OCForums, and Extreme Overclocking are the only ones I visit on a regular basis. Other than jonnyGURU forums of course ;)
12-23-2008, 07:42 AM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

Here you go: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=101

Yes, it will do Crossfire. With 4870x2 cards if you want it to.

Actually, I don't post on Anandtech. This forum, OCForums, and Extreme Overclocking are the only ones I visit on a regular basis. Other than jonnyGURU forums of course ;)

hmm thought it was anandtech but it was literally a year or 2 ago - maybe it was [H]ardOCP forums? maybe its that one im thinking about. oh well, doesnt matter.

thanks for the link, i'll check it out. so it'll do 4870x2 CF? impressive, does it push the psu to the upper limits though?
12-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

It comes close, but this is one PSU that shouldn't complain about that much load. It's built to go the distance.

I forgot Hardforums - I post there too once in a while.
12-23-2008, 08:25 AM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

It's coming on Friday.

So, did it blow up :rofl:
12-23-2008, 08:28 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

You'll find out on Friday :p:
12-23-2008, 08:39 AM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

It comes close, but this is one PSU that shouldn't complain about that much load. It's built to go the distance.

I forgot Hardforums - I post there too once in a while.

hmmm maybe i'll pick one up and see what happens while i wait for the corsair rep to get back to me. i really need one, and i have a feeling it might take a while. :(
12-23-2008, 08:48 AM
Mav451

Quote:

Originally Posted by saki_bomber

hmmm maybe i'll pick one up and see what happens while i wait for the corsair rep to get back to me. i really need one, and i have a feeling it might take a while. :(

I PMed Red Beard on [H] to get an advanced RMA for my 620HX, when I was diagnosing the squeal. If you have an acct there, I'd PM him to get this expedited. Otherwise, I suppose you could go the long way too...
12-23-2008, 09:19 AM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav451

I PMed Red Beard on [H] to get an advanced RMA for my 620HX, when I was diagnosing the squeal. If you have an acct there, I'd PM him to get this expedited. Otherwise, I suppose you could go the long way too...

i pm'd him also, and he said to contact him in a few days if i didnt hear anything back (which i havent) so i pm'd him again last night to let him know.
i guess i'll hear something back soon, he seems reliable.
12-23-2008, 09:25 AM
Tonucci

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS-Wiz

I just had a SeaSonic M12D SS-750 750W PSU blow up not more than two feet from my head :eek: Big explosion and some fireworks. Scared the hell outta me. I'd never had a PSU cap blow on me and I musta jumped a foot straight up :ROTF: It lived for about 15 secs.
Needless to say I'll not be ordering another SeaSonic :down:
I'd done some research and the PSU was getting some good reviews; maybe I just got a bad one. Regardless, I ordered an Antec Signature 850W to replace it.
Anyway, newegg was very good about it; they are going to refund shipping costs here and back and no restocking fee! Gotta luv that newegg customer service.

Seasonic make awesome proven PSU's.... **** happens, bad luck :(

But if I were you I would file an law suit, for the health risk you went through. You will probably win good cash (plus everything Uve spent with lawyers etc) if it really exploded like that :yepp:

The mere possibility of you being near it when it blew, damaging/killing yourself, the mere possibility of it burning your house down and the "immaterial" issues like emotional stress, scared, not trusting PCSU's anymore etc... Also the days you may have gone without an working PC, damaging your studies/work or messing with your daily routine.

Im an lawyer.... so i can say that all of these are possibilities for u to earn an nice sum of money :)
12-23-2008, 02:04 PM
Luphy

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS-Wiz

Read this, all three of us that ordered one had it blow up! :down:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151068

fyi, 2 out of 3 NE reviews came from the same person name tom as according the link u provided, i also found a recent review from spcr on seasonic m12d unit for ur reference @ http://www.silentpcreview.com/article898-page1.html
12-23-2008, 05:28 PM
reberto

Quote:

Originally Posted by saki_bomber

well i have a corsair HX1000 and i already have a thread about this - im getting a burning smell running the components in my sig. shouldnt be anywhere close to taxing my psu - i have submitted an RMA a week ago and have yet to hear back from them.

Are you 100% sure it is a burning smell? All new computer hardware has a strange smell to them and PSUs are some of the nastiest smelling hardware out there. How long have you been running the PSU? My TX750 took a good 3 weeks to stop smelling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonucci

Seasonic make awesome proven PSU's.... **** happens, bad luck :(

But if I were you I would file an law suit, for the health risk you went through. You will probably win good cash (plus everything Uve spent with lawyers etc) if it really exploded like that :yepp:

The mere possibility of you being near it when it blew, damaging/killing yourself, the mere possibility of it burning your house down and the "immaterial" issues like emotional stress, scared, not trusting PCSU's anymore etc... Also the days you may have gone without an working PC, damaging your studies/work or messing with your daily routine.

Im an lawyer.... so i can say that all of these are possibilities for u to earn an nice sum of money :)

For a lawyer you have some horrible grammar :rolleyes:

Don't sue them, this guy is crazy.
12-23-2008, 05:46 PM
Tonucci

Quote:

Originally Posted by reberto

Are you 100% sure it is a burning smell? All new computer hardware has a strange smell to them and PSUs are some of the nastiest smelling hardware out there. How long have you been running the PSU? My TX750 took a good 3 weeks to stop smelling.

For a lawyer you have some horrible grammar :rolleyes:

Don't sue them, this guy is crazy.

English is my 3rd language ;)

If you do not fell like he should pursue his rights, than thats your opinion. Im just saying how day to day court stuff happens. No need for you to get blinded by an blown PSU fragment, in order to receive compensation. Just the risks involved are enough :)

Being an awesome company does not mean it should not compensate for ANY damage/risk it causes to costumers. Thats how costumer service, quality control and consumer policies in general improved over time. They only change when you mess with their pockets.
12-23-2008, 06:48 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luphy

fyi, 2 out of 3 NE reviews came from the same person name tom as according the link u provided, i also found a recent review from spcr on seasonic m12d unit for ur reference @ http://www.silentpcreview.com/article898-page1.html

That review is on the 850w version, not the 750w version I had ...
12-23-2008, 06:51 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

You'll find out on Friday :p:

Here's some decent results using the Antec Signature 850w:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...dm06_22701.jpg

EDIT: Vdroop was about .008 to .01 for that mobo / PSU combo ...
12-23-2008, 08:58 PM
saki_bomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by reberto

Are you 100% sure it is a burning smell? All new computer hardware has a strange smell to them and PSUs are some of the nastiest smelling hardware out there. How long have you been running the PSU? My TX750 took a good 3 weeks to stop smelling.

positive. i've had other ppl put their nose to it to smell it to verify and its def not a good smell, something is def wrong. it didnt start smelling till one night of extensive gaming w/ far cry 2 after owning the psu for a good month.

the honeycomb part of the psu is VERY hot to the touch and in contrast a friend of mine that has literally the exact same system is using a corsair 750W and last week after 8 hours of gaming at a LAN we were both at his psu was completely cool. he was gaming @1920x1200 on an lcd and i was using an old CRT @1280x1024 so theres no way i was pushing the pixels he was, and his psu has no smell and like i said cool, hardly warmed up.

trust me, it IS the psu. i thought it was my cards at first, but i have switched them now and the smell was still there.
12-24-2008, 08:10 AM
M31

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Why not? :shrug: jonnyguru gave them good reviews and I have one too and am very pleased with it.

My Corsair HX620 recently went pop, it had actually been making some strange electric crackeling noises if I switched it off when not in use so decided to keep it switched on all the time (not the comp, just the PSU) until it went pop, it never took any components out with it though so have given Corsair another chance with this HX1000, no odd sounds (or smells) when switching it on and off.

Must get round to RMAing the 620, keep putting it off.
12-24-2008, 08:28 AM
DX_Medic

dude you are one lucky joe. I had a powmax singe my arm one time.
12-25-2008, 07:39 PM
Oklahoma Wolf

My M12D review is up: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=127
12-25-2008, 08:30 PM
YukonTrooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

My M12D review is up: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=127

Looks like an excellent unit. Thank you for all the hard work you put into our community, Johnny!
12-25-2008, 09:22 PM
Oklahoma Wolf

Jon's retired - he's not me :p:

But thanks :)
12-25-2008, 11:39 PM
OS-Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

My M12D review is up: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=127

That review is on the 850w version, not the 750w I had blow up. And curiously, newegg.com no longer lists the 750 and 850w M12Ds. Hmmm ...
12-25-2008, 11:45 PM
reberto

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS-Wiz

That review is on the 850w version, not the 750w I had blow up. And curiously, newegg.com no longer lists the 750 and 850w M12Ds. Hmmm ...

They share the same PCB, so I would assume that they share a lot of the same components no?
12-26-2008, 05:37 AM
Oklahoma Wolf

Yep, same PCB. I can't say for sure what's going on at Newegg, but it seems like Seasonic is taking the behavior of my first review sample seriously; what with it dying in the hot box and coming back to life after I took it apart. Seems like they're being recalled.

Some of the solder joints on my first one had too much solder. My second sample worked just fine though.

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