GSKILL PI Black series F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B

I like the color of the heatspreader. it looks better compare of the original PI series.


http://www.gskill.us/pics/800cl41.jpg



F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B is the 1st model that use PI black



http://www.gskill.us/pics/800cl42.jpg



here is some quick review to this model

1.8v DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 PL7 TRFC 40

http://www.gskill.us/pics/800cl4.png




2.0v DDR2 900 CL4-4-4-12 PL7 TRFC 40

http://www.gskill.us/pics/900cl4.png




2.1v DDR2 1000 CL5-5-4-12 PL9 TRFC 45

http://www.gskill.us/pics/1000cl5.png



I love the black series heatspreader. This is the 1st entry level of Black series
we will have more model that using black series PI :)

Price point???

This also greatly interests me as well - I'd been eyeing either the DDR2-9200 & DDR2-9600 PI kits - Hope they come out with some of this at speeds up to that high

Thanks for the review G.Skill Tech!

I have to say I like the black PI spreaders better than original PI spreaders too. Looks great in black!

Could you go higher @ 5-5-5-15 and tRFC >50?

Nice stuff!

DDR3-1600 2x2GB please!

Thanks for the review .
Nothings special the PI series looks far better

I'd like the PCB to be black as well. That would look good.

Kick arse memory, I really wanted one pair of these :banana3:

Here it is on the Egg, $70 free shipping:
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...231-209-03.jpg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231209

I see these are on the horizon over at G.Skills website -

PI Black G.SKILL DDR2 PC2 8000 CL4 4GB Kit

http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view...esc=asc&no=128

Looks nice, I'd like to test some, however - that doesnt seem very likely, sadly.

black heat spreader immediatly makes these more appealing! do away with the silver heat spreaders!

good job g.skill!

black pcb maybe? that would just be the icing on the cake!

I'll be picking these up very soon for my new system, props to G.Skill for such a great product at such a great price!

Those are sexy spreaders, and at usual G-Skill value. Awesome!

Thanks but no thanks. There is nothing you can do to those "pi" heatspreaders to make me want to by a pair. They are just that ugly IMO. I'll stick to my blue DDR2-1000 PQ heatspreaders.

did you not push or 1000 is all thay will do at cas4?

They look the sex, lol can I have a free sample if I flash my boobs at you? Jk, my boyfriend would kill me!

~Bex

Quick question: I see on your official website that the compatible motherboards are listed under product info. Will they work on the EVGA 750i FTW? Thanks in advance, I really want to purchase this set but not sure if it'll be compatible.

Still $70 free shipping at the Egg.

Which is the chip that uses the black series?
Not there Differences between the white and black?

Not very informative... was thinking of putting these on my Mom's HTPC build, 1.8V... Probably buy them anyway from the egg,

some results from my friend tested it with same as speed 1000MHz 5-5-4-12 but voltage only 1.98V ;)

http://overclockzone.com/tor_za/year...cl5/cl5-pi.png

http://overclockzone.com/tor_za/year...cl5/cl5-pc.png

More results here
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Nothing special, nice black color

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...16&Tpk=G.SKILL

Checking these out right now and thinking of buying - I got my 2*1 gig kit of Patriots running 4-5-4-15 DDR2-1060 at 2.1v - need to find out why my board doesn't like 1200mhz at 500fsb

I ordered the PC2 7200 set (I run 1:1 475 FSB). We will see how they scale... :)

Pics of ICs.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=779&p=1

But what are they?

No labels, but they are not the normal shape of ProMOS or PSC, which i expected these to be.

They look like the newer Micron actually...anyone care to make a guess?

Nice find -n7-!!! Man I'm so tempted to buy the DDR2-1000 CAS4 model, I wonder how far those can go. But damn it sells at Newegg for $200!!!

I guess G.Skill used High standard industrial Thermal tape on the PI, hahaha the IC just came off! LOL!

Seeing as they are only $65/shipped from Newegg, I went ahead and picked me up a set :)

I've had these sticks for a week and a half or so. Havn't really pushed them but they run at cas 4 1.8 volts no problem.

A good high performance low power solution.

It's always nice when you stick in some chips on your board, and realize that they require less volts for cas 4 then your board offers. (DFI 790gx Lanparty Jr.) :up:

That and they are visually appealing. :)

I absolutely DETEST those heatspreaders, their far too tall. Just use a honeycomb HS FFS, it'll work better than trapping the ICs under a thick lump of metal :rolleyes:

It's Qimonda

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It's Qimonda

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:eek:

That's a first for them in higher end stuff, no?

I never woulda guessed that.

Has anyone tried this stuff out? I would love to see some results with this ram. For $100 at newegg I could pick up 8gb. My 2x2gb ocz reapers are running 1100mhz at 2.1v and cant do much more. I want to see if these could do much better.

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Has anyone tried this stuff out? I would love to see some results with this ram. For $100 at newegg I could pick up 8gb. My 2x2gb ocz reapers are running 1100mhz at 2.1v and cant do much more, Im sure if I tweek the timings a bit more that I could break 10gb/s read, write and copy speeds. Im a hair short now. I want to see if these could do much better.

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Just picked up a kit and liked them enough to grab another at only $50 for a 4 GB kit.
Currently running them at 900MHz 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.0v on a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P. I have successfully run them at 960MHz 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.16v on same board. Have been totally unsuccessful at 1066MHz with any timings or voltage.
Miravo, where did you get the info that these are Qimondo? G.Skill won't budge to say what they are and pulling the heatspreaders reveals blank IC's. I'd like to know the source of your info.

Do you have any bandwith results? I really want to do better than this for 24/7.
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...cachemem-1.png
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...ooeyHTJ/Pi.jpg

if order from new egg .. try this code ... i use yesterday .. work good .. save $5 ( need to use 2 different order ... to buy 8 gig ... if not only save $5 instead of 10)

- $5 Code: HARDOCP11245 = $45 with free shipping.

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if order from new egg .. try this code ... i use yesterday .. work good .. save $5 ( need to use 2 different order ... to buy 8 gig ... if not only save $5 instead of 10)

- $5 Code: HARDOCP11245 = $45 with free shipping.

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man and I just bought a set :p:

ordered a pair with the $5 off $49.99 price free shipping and with 15% paypal discount on top of that. Will report later but my goal is 5-4-4-12 or 4-4-4-12 @ 474fsb...=)

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Do you have any bandwith results? I really want to do better than this for 24/7.

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Take your multi down to 8.5 and bump up your FSB...

Currently $50 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231209

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Originally Posted by LagunaX

ordered a pair with the $5 off $49.99 price free shipping and with 15% paypal discount on top of that. Will report later but my goal is 5-4-4-12 or 4-4-4-12 @ 474fsb...=)

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That is definitely doable...

Asus Rampage Formula x48, bios 0308
C2Q Q9550, C1 @ 8.5 x 471 (4Ghz)
4x 2GB G.Skill F2-7200CLD4 (They're the same as the 6400, check newegg, same price!)
WC, both chipsets watercooled.
2x 2-disk raid0
Windows Server 2008 SP2 beta (Regular OS)

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...aa681f5c7c.jpg


http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...e4346b758f.jpg

Got mine today :)

Won't do CAS 4 @ 474fsb even at 2.2v :(

But will do 5-4-4-10 @ 474fsb at 2.02v :eek:

Rock stable so far as evidenced below :up:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ng69/54410.jpg

Nice numbers LagunaX

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Nice numbers LagunaX

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Thanks man was hoping for 4-4-4-12 but can't complain 5-4-4-10:)

I just discovered these today; 4GB of DDR900 CL4 for £60 is cheap.

However my ReaperX 4GK (not the craptastic 9200s in my sig) can do close to 890MHz 4-4-3 so I'd hope for at least 950 4-4-4 from the Gskill kit, but it doesn't look promising. :(

Just got em for Christmas :D love how they run at low voltages.

These may not run over 1000 easily but it does run the lower frequencies very nicely at lower voltages (less prone to dying, replaced my D9GMH 2x already :().

I got my stick yesterday, currently running DDR2-850 4-4-4-8 at 1.92v, Its quite hard to clock this anything more then 900. No matter how much Volts you feed it, Although I haven't tried above 2.1v. This RAM like tight timings :D.

i like my crucial reds better they are micron unknown model


2v this is my 24/7 setting so tell me a test and i will run it.

http://img.techpowerup.org/090113/Capture004615.jpg

2.18v don't have a chip to push this high until wednesday

http://img.techpowerup.org/081206/Capture138.jpg

2.18v

http://img.techpowerup.org/081206/Capture127414.jpg

will these be able to hit 1200mhz for 24/7? are these basically the same as the F2-7200CL4D-4GBPI-B that are just factory OCed?

Yes they're the same. The DDR900's were just tested to be working at 450 mhz and 2.1v. YMMV but some people on newegg got the 400 mhz ones up to 1066 mhz at 5-5-5-18 or 5-6-something. You definitely WON'T hit 1200 with these but whether or not you will hit 1000+....well....just buy a set and hope for the best.....

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Yes they're the same. The DDR900's were just tested to be working at 450 mhz and 2.1v. YMMV but some people on newegg got the 400 mhz ones up to 1066 mhz at 5-5-5-18 or 5-6-something. You definitely WON'T hit 1200 with these but whether or not you will hit 1000+....well....just buy a set and hope for the best.....

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so both kits will not hit 1200mhz even at 6-6-6 and 2.2v?

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so both kits will not hit 1200mhz even at 6-6-6 and 2.2v?

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nope they wont clock for crap @CL6 only 2x2GB kits that easily hit 1200 are crucial reds, fles 1150 and some pi 1100mhz kits

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nope they wont clock for crap @CL6 only 2x2GB kits that easily hit 1200 are crucial reds, fles 1150 and some pi 1100mhz kits

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what are the crucial reds or fles that you're talking about? i never heard of these. do you mean mushkin redlines, OCZ flexs, and gskill pi?

No, those are Ballistix Red and OCZ Flex at 6-6-6-19.

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what are the crucial reds or fles that you're talking about? i never heard of these. do you mean mushkin redlines, OCZ flexs, and gskill pi?

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no i mean crucial red's

this is my 24/7@2.14v

http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture037.jpg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148216

1266 6-5-6-16-24
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture036.jpg


for comparo

800 4-4-4-12-24
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture038.jpg

1066 5-5-5-15-24
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture039.jpg

1143 5-5-5-15-24
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture040.jpg

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No, those are Ballistix Red and OCZ Flex at 6-6-6-19.

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what do you mean?

You guys know these sticks run at cas 3 too right?
Not sure how high they can go at cas 3, but they actually run at cas 3 at LOWER voltages than my 1 GB corsair promos 2.1 sticks. (XMS2-6400c4's).

I can do 333 FSB cas 3-3-3-8 with the Gskills (I'm using the PC-7200's but these are the exact same chips as the 6400's) with 2.0v, and these are 2 GB sticks! The gskill hz's also can do it at that voltage but the corsairs XMS2's needed 2.05v at 333, and at 340 FSB, needed 2.1v. I think the gskill hz's started needing 2.2v at 360 fsb.

I never thought 2gb sticks could run cas3 at 333 fsb/1333 bus speed but still nice to know.

cdawall, poor results at "1066 5-5-5-15-24". Frankly speaking, I'm not impressed.