just saw this newfangled "Z" bracket, for mounting a Laing pump in a 120mm. fan hole. (You need one of their other brackets to attach to it.)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24431
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just saw this newfangled "Z" bracket, for mounting a Laing pump in a 120mm. fan hole. (You need one of their other brackets to attach to it.)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24431
Freaking smart! Oh man.. so many people now can mount their pumps on the inside of a 120mm front intake. AND have it cooled (DDC users extra happy I guess)
Awesome design.
Errr... sorry to sound like R3, but lots of folks have been using Mountain Mods HDD carriers to mount DDC with Alphacool tops for years :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
:ROTF:
Yes but now its any top, with any existing 120mm hole spacing.
So about $36+shipping to mount a pump to a fan... Seems like a large expense to me for a pump mount. I guess it's always nice to have options though.
That's what I have been doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
20 bucks for two threw MM. Roughly 70 for two UN mounts.
Why would you need two for a single pump?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
"With the New Z-Bracket you can mount the (UN) 3G or Absolute brackets wherever there is a 120mm fan. The Z-Bracket is compatible with any (UN)Designs brackets including the older revisions."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
So you have to buy that along with another bracket to hold the pump. This product is a bracket to hold a bracket. :rofl:
Why they didn't just make a standalone piece is beyond me.
No rd30 option? lolQuote:
for Laing D4/D5/DDC Pumps
Oh.. I thought it was a standalone... well this just seems dumb now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
It was simple- Cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
Most of the people who asked me to make this bracket
already had an existing bracket. I could sell the whole thing and I more than likely will but I wanted to get this out to the people who asked me for it. This one is for the people who already have a bracket but still want an option. If you look at Zaskars build you can see the whole bracket. That one will be coming out soon. Hope this clears it up. Any questions ask away.. By the way each shop has discretion to price the bracket as they want but if you look around you will find it for less....
Dave W
(UN)Designs
not if you need to mount it right in the middle of a fan hole. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
Trust me, fan mounting styles will only get more popular now that things are getting bigger. Like Radiators, and pump configs.
People should have choices to mount there pumpsQuote:
Originally Posted by IanY
with whatever top they want and wherever they want
and I know for a fact that R3 used my 3G brackets on his latest build....remember the more choices available the better for everyone.
You cant attach this to a D4 our D5's stock mounting bracket?
What are the dimensions of the Z-Brackets bolt pattern? I measured the stock bolt pattern on my D5 and its 1 5/8" apart.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean but I think your asking if this mounts directly to the pump and the answer is no. This is a adapter to allow you to use any of my other brackets on a 120mm fan. Here's some pics to help you understand what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiNRuB
Just as a suggestion you may want to offer a standoff kit to reduce noise induced by fanblade turbulence when mounting on the intake side of the fan, and and it would also decrease airflow resistance.
I will take it into consideration if there's enough demand for it. I did play with different size standoffs to see if there was any difference and I didn't hear any audible turbulence from the fan. One of the criteria when I made this was that there would be no audible increase in fan noise.The first one was right on the fan but I decided to go against this because it did create a little turbulence and I didn't want to block the fan too much. Thanks for the suggestion.
Just in case of confusion I was referring to standoffs on the corners, not in the center where they already are. I cant see in the picture but are there already spacers on the corners?Quote:
Originally Posted by armeniandave
I'm sure if anyone objected then they could just spend a few bucks and order some from McMaster-Carr. :shrug:
Quote:
Originally Posted by armeniandave
Oh i see. What i meant was if i could attach the stock mounting bracket from the D5 directly to the Z-Bracket. I guess not, but didnt i see you do that in a build of yours our of your friends build?
You probably could use it with a different bracket but you would have to modify it. I made this so I would never have to use the stock bracket again!
Great work armeniandave,
i have one question though.... any chance the next revs will have hole spacing for the EK-D5 top?
cheers,
emu
I might just do that. Having it mounted over the bottom fan intake would really help with my build. Thanks Dave!Quote:
Originally Posted by armeniandave
Very clever and sharp looking too!
I will look into it thanks for the suggestionQuote:
Originally Posted by emuexport
Nice armeniandave, I always wanted to mount my D-5 off the fan. I'll have to consider this when I revise my build :up:
I love mine! it works great!!! :) it was a PITA figuring out wheer to mount my pump, but w/ the Z bracket it made it a lot easier.
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/q...4/DSC_0045.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/q...4/DSC_0055.jpg
I really like this! Nice find
Much needed addition to the UN line up. Petra has had this up on his site for about a week now IIRC.
Question: Those 2 posts in the middle, are they permanently fixed to the H piece or are they simply bolts with cap nuts, so I can move them around along that row of holes?
move around to your hearts content.
There fixed to match hole spacing in my brackets. I would also be concerned that they could come loose and protrude into the fan if I didn't make them fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibbler
Ouch...:( Guess I'll cancel that order. Was going to use it to mount a res.
unfortunately they were made for my brackets. Because the bracket sits directly on the fan I didn't want the head of the bolt sticking into the fan. I could probably make a few without the studs in the next batch if anybody wanted to mount something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibbler
nice. as said before, the more options the better. finding a way to mount watercooling parts was always my biggest issue with water cooling. not once have i ordered a water cooling part and upon arrival said,,,, oh sweet! the mounting bracket that came with this will work perfect! :rolleyes:
my biggest issue is always rad mounting though. i'd love if i could actually mount everything without have to mod the case at all, or mount a rad externally.
my bad.. Why not use flat head recessed screws? But a nice bevel on it, sits nice and flush.
the screws would work but to make them completly flush I would have to countersunk each hole. Because it's sheetmetal there's not a whole lot of thickness to countersink. The threaded inserts are pressed into the metal making them very flush and really strong. Remember these are Rev.1 pieces so I will take all feedback seriously for future revisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Daddy
What are those extra holes for anyway?
Anyway, maybe you can leave the 8 middle holes as is (not countersunk) and just include washers and longer screws for the corners, so bolt heads can clear the fan. Flexibility is nice, we can apply locktite ourselves if we're really worried about nuts coming loose.:) Should help you cut costs as well by skipping the threaded inserts.
The extra holes are cosmetic, however they are spaced the same as the mounting holes. I tried a washer to space it out but rejected that idea based on the amount of effort required to mount the bracket and the washers. I'm not ruling it out but I feel there is a better way to achieve what I want to do.
I agree that flexibility would be nice. Both the Absolute and the 3G brackets have multiple holes to mount to so that is where you can play around with positioning. I did test with both a D5 and a DDC and the positioning was right on.
I see now that people might want to use this to mount other things to so I will take all feedback and see what I can come up with.
Keep your suggestions coming I really do appreciate it. You guys are my customers so I really want to hear from you.
I hate you :banana::banana::banana:S!
i had to try it cuz i loved the concept.
Dave i have one tweek on request. I wanted to make the foot print smaller from going off the side so i mounted it behind my rad. Well problem now is the clearance as shown:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0032.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0030.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0031.jpg
Problem is if i use ANY other rad besides the GTS :down:, i run out of space as shown. Can you possibly make an attachment? or make the leg a little bit longer so it would clear a GTX class radiator?
Dave i got both your stuff. The 120 fan attachment and the rev. UN Design.
Well I never expected anyone to mount it like that! That's pretty cool. I can see how you would run out of room. Can you take a better pic so I can see how the Z-Bracket is mounted, specifically the standoffs? I don't think many people will mount it that way but I am sure I can help you out. Give me some more pics so I can see it better. Thanks.
Dave W
(UN)Designs
Will try, mom decided to borrow my camera today without asking. :rofl:
Basically i used the top end mount on the lower fan mount behind the rad. Put shock absorbers on the bottom end and let torque hit the wall.
Needed the unit as portable as possible. Having a pump protrude from the side defeats the portability part. Also id be nevous as heck in nocking it unconsciencely and snapping my fan and rad in half :X
Tried it the proper way and the leg arm is too long. :T this was the only compromise i could see of. :rofl:
And shave your damn toes Naekuh! :D
lolz, no hitting below the head...
:P
dont make me pwn you guys. :rofl:
Personally I'm for screwing the fan onto a basic fan guard like so:
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...u/DSC07866.jpg
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=190102
I've done the same to my currently assembled but missing the case to put it in pump and it looks like it'll work a charm.
I've also got rubber washers that came with the DDC holding it to the fan grill which has a TFC rubber gasket before the fan which will probably be placed on another rubber gasket before hitting the case so I'm hoping most vibrations will be absorbed.
problem with that is that pump needs to be horizontal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobly