Fudd: Nehalem 3.2GHz goes up to 4.5GHz on air

If you are good

We learned that Nehalem 3.2GHz should reach over 4GHz easily and if you are really good overclocker, you should hit up to 4.5GHz on air. Of course, for such a task you need a great motherboard.

Furthermore, if you want to go over 5GHz and even 5.2 to 5.3GHz you need to play with LN2 but apparently this is possible and it has been done with demo CPUs. These are some of the numbers you should be reaching once the CPU is out.

Naturally, the Core i7 Extreme edition at 3.2GHz and overvoltage protection removed should be able to reach the highest clocks. It is safe to say that whatever speeds you’we seen on Core 2 Quad 45nm Yorkfield parts, you should be getting with Nehalems or you should at least be within that range.

Looks like overclockers will like this one but beware, the memory speeds will suck, especially compared with X48 memory scores.


Howly schmoly :up:

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Originally Posted by Astratuner

Looks like overclockers will like this one but beware, the memory speeds will suck, especially compared with X48 memory scores.

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:rofl: yeah they will really suck, only more bandwidth with far lower latancy then ever. :ROTF:

Stop posting FUD fantasy stories please. Its like winning the lottery if its actually correct.

oh fuddzilla.
always good for a hearty laugh in the morning.

FUD is going to strike more often these days, before Deneb and Bloomfield arrives. So, everybody turn on your BS protectors.

and in the end he will tell everybody "Told you so" :rofl:

*According to inside sources, the next generation nvidia card will be able to play 3d games, fold and do physics calculations. It will also be faster than their current cards*

I can do "news" too.

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

:rofl: yeah they will really suck, only more bandwidth with far lower latancy then ever. :ROTF:

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Let me get this straight, isn't Nehalem triple channel meaning that even with 1066 memory speeds bandwidth will be far greater?

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Originally Posted by JargonGR

Let me get this straight, isn't Nehalem triple channel meaning that even with 1066 memory speeds bandwidth will be far greater?

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Yup :p:

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Originally Posted by Astratuner

We learned that Nehalem 3.2GHz should reach over 4GHz easily and if you are really good overclocker, you should hit up to 4.5GHz on air

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The ususal your mileage may vary, no info on what hardware used, no info how similar to retail chips the es chip that reached those clocks is... yeah sure and from that fud can conclude that 4ghz on air will be easy.:ROTF:

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Its like winning the lottery if its actually correct.

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he posts so many contradicting stories that he is bound to get one right eventually:p:
We can just hope it will be this one and not the one about nehalem not being oc'able at all.

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Originally Posted by JargonGR

Let me get this straight, isn't Nehalem triple channel meaning that even with 1066 memory speeds bandwidth will be far greater?

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spot on, even at lower memory clocks than s775 systems memory latency and bandwith will be far superior due to triple channel, but mostly due to the imc.

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Originally Posted by JargonGR

Let me get this straight, isn't Nehalem triple channel meaning that even with 1066 memory speeds bandwidth will be far greater?

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On the memory...Yes absolutely. By FAR. By ***FAR***. Saying that "mem speeds" are gonna suck is a bunch of hogwash.

Guys, this thing may or may not do 4.5, but if it does it's gonna take cooling just like any other CPU does for that, and not every chip will do that. Posting stuff like that only leads to disapointment when people don't get those speeds. I really wish that place would stop posting these rediculous claims.

I don't even have to see the chip to know that getting a OC like that is gonna be the exception rather than the rule. Even then it would take somebody that really knows what they are doing.

I love these CPU's and kinda have become a fan of them, but I'm not gonna build up my hopes on OC levels. I wanna see benches and OC's and I'll wait to make a judgement until I do. Anything else is just speculation.

Link for #1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...9513&Itemid=66

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

:rofl: yeah they will really suck, only more bandwidth with far lower latancy then ever. :ROTF:

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Which is why I continue to maintain that Fuad Abazovic is completely, and utterly, inept when it comes to understanding, communicating, or otherwise comprehending anything of a technical nature on the subject of personal computing.

Fud is actually going to get something right!He covered all the angles,now it's only a matter of time until one of his stories matches a reality :D

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Originally Posted by informal

Fud is actually going to get something right!He covered all the angles,now it's only a matter of time until one of his stories matches a reality :D

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Classic.

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Originally Posted by informal

Fud is actually going to get something right!He covered all the angles,now it's only a matter of time until one of his stories matches a reality :D

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Kinda like the boy who cried wolf? :rofl:

Fudzilla is lol :-D

OK, I have had this information confirmed by sources other than Fud that the Core i7 EE will get to 4.5 on air. This was also an early engineering sample, not one with E0 stepping. I have also found out the with good water cooling (PA120.3 CPU only loop) 5 Ghz is possible.

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Originally Posted by crazy1323

OK, I have had this information confirmed by sources other than Fud that the Core i7 EE will get to 4.5 on air. This was also an early engineering sample, not one with E0 stepping. I have also found out the with good water cooling (PA120.3 CPU only loop) 5 Ghz is possible.

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just to clarify, there is no E0 stepping. D is as high as it's gotten

I'm not making any decisions about numbers until I see benchmarks, BIOS numbers, and things like that. There is too much conflicting info out there, and much of it is speculation.

The only people that definitely know what this thing will do are the ones who have samples to test and Intel, and so far those people are not talking very much and are under NDA.

I know that some rumors get out, and sometimes websities speculate on things, but they usually have pretty good reasons, and sometimes sources to give them those ideas.

With the release of this chip we have seen some preposterous stories posted and it's really caused alot of confusion. Some of it is borderline shameful.

The worst thing I have seen to date is that Fud posted this CPU would not OC in the beginning and is now posting it will achieve amazing OC's. I would like to believe the latter but the credibility has already been blown.

There have been too many incidents where conflicting info has been posted. In his defense Fud is not the only one who has done this. Numbers should not be posted without backing evidence. It hurts buisness in the long run. We like to know what's coming because we really get into this stuff and do things the majority does not, but we need *official info* before we can be sure what these things will actually do.

Another thing that is unwise is posting OC levels based on ES chips. They could be higher or they could be lower for any number of reasons.

We have a hard release date of Novemeber now that is official. Let's wait and see before declaring what the OC level will be. *WE* will be the ones declaring those OC levels, and the people right here at this forum are probably some of the ones that have those samples. When they are released we will all prove what they are.

I promise to post all the results of my testing and will validate when that option is available. I will post screenshots, and will do my best to OC this thing to a level I'm comfortable with. I can't go max becasue I don't have phase, but I will post what I can. I have done OC'ing for many years. This year I will have water cooling for the first time also.

We're all gonna have fun with this. Maybe some of you guys can help me, because alot of this stuff is new to me. Some of you guys upgrade alot more than I do. Who knows maybe we can get a Xtreme OC together! :up:

Well, my Windie X2 can reach 6Ghz+ on air. I swear!

Its really easy to talk and talk over again and dont show a little proof.

I don't think you will see 4.5 on air, at least not with the initial offerings.
Just my opinion..

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Originally Posted by Movieman

I don't think you will see 4.5 on air, at least not with the initial offerings.
Just my opinion..

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depends. ;)

im sure we see 4,5ghz or even more for a 1m spi shot, but not stable. On oc.at there are guys that pushed QX9650s to 47xx ghz on air and im sure on xs.org even higher. :D

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

depends. ;)

im sure we see 4,5ghz or even more for a 1m spi shot, but not stable. On oc.at there are guys that pushed QX9650s to 47xx ghz on air and im sure on xs.org even higher. :D

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Hi..
I really don't think so and I don't think you can compare these to the Yorkies for this thinking but this is something we will see I think in the next 30 days.
Honestly, I hope your 100% correct but from what I've seen I have my doubts.
To me at 4000 it will be huge with the benefit of the tri channel memory.
4500 will be :woot:

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Originally Posted by Movieman

I don't think you will see 4.5 on air, at least not with the initial offerings.
Just my opinion..

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Yeah, I think I share your opinion .... 4.0 GHz on yorkies are pretty routine, but 4.5 is pushing it in most all cases. I am not expecting Nehalem to out do the yorkfield, and have a gut feeling it will come in toppin' out at slightly less.

I love the memory score comment... useless info here, move along.

I really can't wait for Nehalem. If everything is to be believed it will be perfect for an upgrade (from my 4800+). Hopefully it will be a 'tock' like Conroe was.

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Now, Intel has decided to unlock memory ratio adjustments on Core i7 920 (2.66 GHz) and 940 (2.93 GHz) SKUs too, thus opening the memory playing field for all and sundry.

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It is claimed however, that 'overclocking' the QPI speed will only realise small performance benefits, yet the adoption of what is effectively an unlocked memory controller, will give enthusiasts that little more freedom to experiment and attain the best that the Nehalem platform has to offer.

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http://www.tweaktown.com/news/10179/...king_friendly/

Looking forward to seeing what this memory controller can do. . Wouldn't it be nice to just dial in a dram speed without worrying about dividers like the way it is now with the fsb?

I know this is XS forums, but LN2 seems to be a bit over-rated. It's just that even the most Xtreme of all the enthusiasts still does not use LN2 for anything else other than an enthusiast sports car driver would use a drag racer down the quarter-mile.

Excuse me--this was my first time making such a comment here on XS forums---hopefully I do not get banned for saying this! :P

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

just to clarify, there is no E0 stepping. D is as high as it's gotten

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OK, i thought they had gotten to E. The one I am referring to is a C1 or C0 (can't remember off the top of my head). How are the D's looking? Is D going to be the release stepping?

Memory bandwidth is going to be incredible with Nehalem. Not really looking forward to too much else with this architecture.

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Originally Posted by Booj

Looking forward to seeing what this memory controller can do. . Wouldn't it be nice to just dial in a dram speed without worrying about dividers like the way it is now with the fsb?

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Don't get excited :) memory dividers are pretty much standard for issuing the clock to the memory, unless Intel has decoupled the memory clock from the system clock to let it float. The only efficient way to clock the memory correctly is to use dividers where are some preset incremental step to synchronize clocks.

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Originally Posted by JumpingJack

Don't get excited :) memory dividers are pretty much standard for issuing the clock to the memory, unless Intel has decoupled the memory clock from the system clock to let it float. The only efficient way to clock the memory correctly is to use dividers where are some preset incremental step to synchronize clocks.

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Yeah wishful thinking I know, but as far as I know ATI did it with the RD600 chipset albeit with the fsb, so it has been possible.. Perhaps it had a much finer range of dividers to give the appearance of unlinked memory. Mind you that chipset didn't turn out too well did it..