it's out and available for sale to the public as of this afternoon.
http://www.swiftech.com/products/MCW-NBMAX.asp
enjoy :-)
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it's out and available for sale to the public as of this afternoon.
http://www.swiftech.com/products/MCW-NBMAX.asp
enjoy :-)
Perfect!! Just the news I was waiting for. Disregard the friendly PM.
Thanks Gabe.
Wow looks great! Any chance this fits maximus and rampage formula?
I see flat internals like MCW30. That's a bit disappointing but I'm sure it helps keep costs down.
thats great news gabe
cheers
TBH I prefer everything but CPU/GPU blocks with flat or near flat internals... plenty of cooling and minimum restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibbler
The next time I take my loop apart I will definitely this a go. It appears that 1/2" (3/4") fittings will fit, can anyone confirm this?
Damn! This makes me want to take the Fuzion i took off my
Maximus to put on my Rampage off and buy one of these to put
on my maximus err i mean Rampage.:mad:
Now im all cornfused:D
awesome! well woulda been better like 3 months ago :(
Tried to order it, but get a fault when I go to choose shipping...works if I enter a California zip code, but using my Hawaii zip, it's no go and I can't order.
This is what I get instead of a shipping options
Quote:
Choose a Shipping Method:
use the dropdown menu to select your desired shipping method Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14'
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'AS'.
/store/cart.asp, line 220
Just the news ive been waiting for !! :rocker:
Oh yeah, chipset blocks for ownage motherboard <3
Oh, I was hoping it would be a universal block.
Also, Gabe would you please reply to the PM I sent you a few days ago? Thank you. :)
I also tought that it will be universal.
Can it be installed on other mobos?
Gabe,
Congratulations on another product release, this looks to be another successful product from Swiftech.
Very nice block, flat internals kinda surprised me though.
Is it tested already? How much gain over the stock fusion block?
Cute little block Gabe.
I wish you could make some universal chipset and mosfet blocks in this style.
sweet :D
Oh yes, someone give a shout about where to get these online?
Nice work Gabe!
here are the deistributors who have ordered the product so far, and will get it first. We are shipping to channels today:Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
in no particular order:
sidewindercomputers
jabtech
performance pc
petra's tech
frozen cpu
Gabe - will this work on the new Asus Rampage Extreme. I am venturing into my first WC system and purchased $375 worth of equipment this morning from CrazyPC.com.
This included all Swiftech components. Apogee GTZ WB, MCP655 Pump, Micro-Resevoir, MCR320 Rad, and a MCW30 chipset WB. But if this MCW-NBMAX can be used, I'd use that one.
Regards,
The Fonz (AL)
will the gtz backplate work on rampage extreme?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dubtown
NO, that Fujitsu chip is in the way. Therefore you have to dremel out that area on the back plate or buy this Back Plate.
I bought the Xigmatek Crossbow. http://www.crazypc.com/products/ack-l7751-50852.html
Really nice. Will it fits on NB and SB on Rampage Formula ?
Only NB Giziu :)
Great news.
I assume the Swiftech shop only ships in the US ?
Sadly yeah, so we eu guys need to wait :PQuote:
Originally Posted by rockqc
This is one sweet looking block and a great idea to take advantage of the nice heatpipe system on the Maximus II. I will definitely be replacing my MCW30 with one of these.
Now if someone would come out with a Mosfet block to replace the left Mosfet block on the heatpipe that would be icing on the cake.
They seem to only do continental USA, so us Hawaii and Alaska residents are SoL as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrixD
Sorry for OT. Now I have 2x MCW30, do they will fit to Rampage Formula (NB&SB) ;) ? If not, what EK blocks you recommend to this MB ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrixD
SigFever got a MCW30 on his NB, but about SB, I do not know about :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by GIZIU
But I can tell you that you need these blocks for a fully EK watercooled Rampage formula:
Hope this will help ya ;)Quote:
NB: EK-NB S-MAX/EK-NB/SB5
SB: EK-NB/SB ASUS 4
Mosfet: 2x EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a
It will only be a couple of days wait longer, as the stores that ship internationally have them arriving soon, going by what Gabe said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herc130
Gabe everytime I try to buy from you guys direct I get a certificate error due to the site name being swiftnets. When I continue anyway my cart empties. Any US e-tailers have this yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
gabe can i get a request?
Can we get a MCW35 that uses an old apogee or apogeeGT base? I absolutely love this base when it comes to low restriction.
The MCW30 is kinda outdated, and i would really love an upgrade. :D
Any hope in dreaming for something like this? :D
Thanks a lot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CrixD
The MCW-NBMAX is now showing up on Sidewindercomputers and Jab-tech....
ncix says 3-4 weeks..damn, that sucks:(
Yep ordered from them this weekend even though it said out of stock it also said add to cart so I took a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by trfnj74
***Received email that they are out of stock 'til Thursday. O well."
So, has anyone had any luck with this unit?
Ordered mine from Petra's, let you guys know how it does.
It will be less than 3-4 weeks. That is just our default "ETA" for Swiftech products. I have them on order as well, but only a couple. They should be here in a weekish.
Wewt! This is replacing my MCW30 like NAO!
this is designed as a replacement for the stock Fusion block that mounts to the stock heat pipe assembly, not as a direct contact block like the MCW30. i don't believe the mount holes are going to match up to the X48 mount holes to be used as a direct contact block based on the fact that it is going to be designed to mount to the heat pipe assembly holes which are way off the X48 mount holes. HTHQuote:
Originally Posted by gxavier
So this isnt a MCW30 revision? Its just a one off block for a specific board?
Glad I read this now, I almost made a mistake.
Any chance a MCW30 revision is in the works? Or is it safe for me to order one without an update coming out in a week or 2?
Thanx for confirming this. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
I thought that was the case just by the look of it. I am gathering the pieces for my WC build now and was torn between getting chipset blocks or using the stock arrangement. I'll be following this piece the next few weeks before commiting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer411
i am not 100% on this but based on the Swiftech site and the design, it says...Quote:
Originally Posted by fox3
"The MCW-NBMAX is a North Bridge waterblock designed in collaboration with the Asus® Corporation as an alternative to their "Fusion" waterblock. "
and...
"The MCW-NBMAX is compatible with the Asus Maximus II formula, and the Rampage Extreme; it is also expected to be compatible with upcoming high-end Asus motherboards that will feature the Fusion water-block in removable version."
since both of those boards share the same heat pipe assembly and it basically says it just replaces the Fusion block, i think it is safe to say. that, and like i said, the mounting holes for where this goes on the stock heat pipe assembly are 90 degrees out for the X48 mounting holes. Gabe can confirm but they are pretty clear on their web site.
i would love an MCW30 update as well but would settle for a set of mounting brackets that fit the wider X48 holes as the ones i have now don't reach.
Bought mine at Petra's as well and it was shown as shipped yesterday, so should have it @wednesday next week. Will see how it lines up with an MCW30 and post pics if someone else doesnt do so by then.
Ordered mine from Jab-Tech tonight. John is a class act and a great vendor. :up: :up:
http://jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCW-NBM...r-pr-4272.html
i been waiting a month for this! thank you!!
Well I was under the impression that it was an update to the mcw30, since last I heard of this block was a teaser shot in the apogee gtz thread after people asked about an updated mcw30 and mcw60.
@ performance-pcs :)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24408
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/DSC01229.jpg
High quality :clap:
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/DSC01217.jpg
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/DSC01222.jpg
Thanks Swiftech :up:
That looks really nice!
What are the temps like?
I'm getting about 43 idle and 48 under load.
yeah, i wouldn't expect much if any benefit of this block over the stock Fusion block because the limitingQuote:
Originally Posted by coral11
factor is the cooling of the stock heat pipe setup that they both attach to, not the block itself.
if you have done the washer mod and changed thermal paste then perhaps there might be a slight
benefit but the results from this block versus the Fusion block are going to be negligible at best.
what this block will allow, however, is the ability to hook up a 1/2" loop without 4 adapters, 9 worm clamps,
and a potentially leaky nightmare :up:
3oh6,
You are correct, the only reason I would not use the Fusion block was those stupid adapters! The color and quality appeared okay. I wanted to keep the half inch plumbing through out the system. BTW I did do all the suggested fixes -- New TIM and nylon washers. :D
haha, i have done the fusion block thing with 1/2" loop, had to for the review. the temps were
good after the nylon washer mod and re-thermal pasting, dropped a solid 10 degrees into the low 40s
from the low 50s under load with ambient at 23C with a nominal 1.5v. since then though, i have gone
direct contact with a simple MCW30 (can't thank you enough Gautam for the slap upside the head)
and with 1.74v under load, don't crack 34C with the same 23C ambient :up:
needless to say the stock heat pipe assembly is the bottleneck in MCH cooling. fortunately
it is only a handful of MC14s and an MCW30 away from being easily cured. man, i sound like a
Swiftech ad, not my intention at all...it's just what i use because i am all about bang for buck.
this block is a nice touch for those not wanting to deal with the hassle as it does allow the 1/2"
connection without the mess...and a bloody mess it is with the Fusion block. it is good to see you
got your block already and it looks great in the setup.
Thanks,
You think you could help me with over clocking? (in a new topic)
i, and a great many others with this board, would be happy to help you out. there is already a gatheringQuote:
Originally Posted by coral11
place and what has been presented already is full of helpful information. since you know about the nylon
washer mod, i am assuming you have visited but if your asking about clocking, just do it here...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=196683
i may not be able to help out but most likely someone can :up:
Thank you :clap:
2 degree differcence idle for me '55c-> '53c after gaming. I wasn't using the fan on the stock block system either.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2639/blockll8.th.jpg
Like expected the gain isn't great from this block. :(
I think mine will be here this week, i will do the nylon washer trick and replace the fushion with this block, expecting some 10º C drop.
Mine idles around 43-44 ºC with 1.49V yet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Did you replace the TIM? If you did then I would also recommend adding some type of washer to the spring screws on the back of the mobo. I went with some very cushy insulated washers i had left over from back in the day when i did the same thing with my Abit IP35 PRO.
You should definitely check it out man, id like to see you get some better temps from your setup. It looks awesome by the way. Its to bad you cant remove the LED R.O.G logo and flip it over to match your orientation.
Has anyone figured out if this will fit boards without the heatpipe assembly? Maximus/Rampage Formula.
no, this is for attaching to the heat pipe assembly only. the mount holes on the heat pipe assembly are onQuote:
Originally Posted by gxavier
the bottom right and top left positions on the block if you were looking at it from above. mounting holes for
the x48 chipset are on the top right and bottom left from the same vantage point.
even if you wanted to rotate the block 90 degrees to have the bottom right corner match up to the top right
hole on the board and same with the left, the distance between the mounting bolts on the MCW-NBMAX is
51.7mm, the P35/P45 mounting holes are already 55mm~56mm and the x48 holes are gapped even further. i
don't have an X48 board torn down right now to measure.
Gabe, can you please confirm this information for the users here. the web site is very clear stating...
"Motherboard Compatibility & Retention mechanism
The MCW-NBMAX is compatible with the Asus Maximus II formula, and the Rampage Extreme"
...but people
want to believe this will work with other boards when it clearly won't.
I replaced the TIM with OCZ freeze but will try the washers on the next refit. I thought about flipping the logo but it seemed removing it would be a one time thing. I too was hoping for better temps considering that the nb voltage is @1.25vQuote:
Originally Posted by SaiNRuB
Well that's too bad. My question is why anyone would want to make a waterblock that sits on top of 2 seperate pieces of copper. Stupid design.
The Maximus/Rampage formulas have 4 holes for chipset mounting... not two.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
http://www.sixdesign.de/Asus%20Maxim...ormula%201.jpg
Tonight i'll measure... i have a broken Maximus Formula lying around.
The orientation of those holes are too wide to fit this waterblock. Also this block is mounted using only two screws top left & bottom right corners. I bet with modifications to the mounting it could be used on that board but for that one would just buy a block made for the board and skip the hassle.Quote:
Originally Posted by gxavier
oh shoot, your right, i was just thinking of the RE.Quote:
Originally Posted by gxavier
either way, as The Nemesis has stated and i mentioned above, the mounting hole spacing on this block
should be considerably smaller than the X48 mounting holes. i could be wrong as i am just using a ruler
and eyeing it up but it doesn't even look close.
**just measured the Rampage Formula from the back with a ruler (no calipers) and opposite holes center to center are 62mm...so yeah, the 51.7mm between the mounting holes on this block eliminate it from pretty much any direct chipset mounting.
If you're looking for a block that fits straight on top of the NB, just get the EK S-max.
I received my block today from Jab_Tech (fast service). The block quality is very nice and it looks great, Gabe did a great job on this little block. Only thing is the Swiftech sticker should have been attached better, wouldn't take much to knock it off.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Got mine as well...no swiftech sticker. Looked around box, nadda. Kinda disappointed, block looks very plain with no sticker. Actually dug out my old MCW60 and took the sticker off that to put on the NB block.
Got mine as well. ;)
1/2" ID 3/4" OD Feser Compression fittings is a no go, but I was actually surprised it got that close. I'm going to use a 45 on one of them so I think I can make it work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_2056.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_2057.jpg
haha, man, that block looks tiny with that hardware on there. good to see so many getting them,
now, let's see more rig pics :up:
Nice pics and glad we have results. Now am I the only one that thinks this is a made by ViperJohn block? It would have been nice if ViperJohn put his name on these directly. Nice block nonetheless and thanks to Swiftech for their help in getting it to market. Looking forward to getting mine.
Installed my MCW-NBMAX today and just put it into operation. The install was easy with the block fitting like a glove. The allen wrench was a little small for the bolts so I used a metric one of my own. I didn't have time to get proper lighting for these pics so please overlook it.
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I have mine mounted but temps are still bad due to the nature of the cr@ppy heatpipe, despite the nylon washers.
The block fits nicely but i needed the extra o-rings that came with the swiftech barbs to stop it from leaking.
Like metioned the allan wrench seemed a tad too small :shrug: and the Swiftech logo was mounted upside down, lol.
It's a nice looking block that have to keep me over till the Bitspower block comes out.
Direct contact is sooo much better than this heatpipe
I used my Trusty 478x9 Bootup and then Ran XFired HD4870s OC'd to 865/1075.
Only got a 3DMark06 Score of 23,421. I noticed XFire helps more in the SM 2.0 tests than it did in the SM 3.0 test. You get 20% more in SM 2.0 and 12% more in SM 3.0 test.
If any geniuses out there now how to up the SM 3.0 XFire performance please chime in.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8339745
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http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1999/water4sl7.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/480...23241t2jm3.jpg
Simplicity in design may indeed give such impression, but this block is 100% my baby. If John, who is a long time and personal friend of mine had designed something for us, I would have been honored to give him credit, like we always do whenever we use 3rd party IP.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
People are important at Swiftech, whether they are employees or contractors (such as Cathar at the time of the Storm), and we make it a point to give them public recognition for their hard work.
I know this is an incredibly old thread, but I came across it doing a search on google for the MCW-NBMAX water block.
Can anyone comment on whether they were actually able to get a better overclock out of their system using this? . . . I always got the impression that northbridge waterblocks never actually affect the overclock that is ultimately achieved.
I have been using it from day one and I run 4250 24/7 on my E8600. Temps are better than when it was stock. It's a better block than the OEM because of the fittings. The OEM sucked.
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/DSC01217.jpg
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/DSC01222.jpg
Problem with this block is that it just replaces the original wb that asus puts on their boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revivalist
The block is actually cooling the heatpipe assembly instead of the NB chip so temps will still be much worse than a waterblock directly mounted onto the NB itself.
I watercooled the NB because the X48 chipset was quite hot and i wanted 600 FSB at Perfomance Level 8 out of it (meaning lots of volts) so dicided to watercool it.
It helped. :)
I can confirm that the EnzoTech 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Compression fittings are also too broad for the holes on the MCW-NBMAX. Although they sit closer than the Feser ones did. I will be looking into a 45 for the second port as well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/tmwong/nbmax.jpg
1/2" ID and 3/4" OD compression barbs will not fit!
Phil
were you not able to use the compression fitting even with that angle piece installed?