Just saw these at PPCs $150
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24364
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Just saw these at PPCs $150
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24364
High Density Copper not al.
Nice Koolance you can learn easly:D:D
doesnt look half bad, but koolances rep is still iffy
Cheaper on there site http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=731
And it does list steel as a material :shrug:
Looks like a little submarine. :)
I'm still not sold on Koolance blocks.
I bet that there is just steel in the screws or the g1/4 caps. It would be nice to clarify cause I like the looks of the block.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
I believe it has been resolved in a prior thread here.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Galt
If this block performs as well as the 4870 block I think it found a new home for my soon to be delivered 4870X2. :D
That in of itself is supremely bad news. Haven't you noticed the recent threads about Koolance steel end caps corroding away ?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Galt
It's probably the plate that covers the plexiglass and the standoffs on the back of the board, but I would get conformation of that before purchase. It looks like a nice block, single slot design and decent price. I just hope no plain steel is touching water. I assume stainless steel is not a problem for corosion?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
[QUOTE=RealRedRaider;3279578]Whoever said that KOOLANCE uses StainlessSteel...:rofl:
Sorry I was refering to the plate covering the plexi top, the standoffs and asking if SS was a problem not if Koolance uses it. I know there was issues with older drain plugs being steel, and I belive they were taking steps to correct that and use nickel plated brass. If I remember Aqua has a few blocks that have SS parts so I assume corrosion is not a problem. Koolance I feel gets alot of flaming here, and not enough good press on how they seem to be listening to WC community and producing AL free blocks, yeah they are not perfect and I don't even own any of their products. But many of their recent gpu blocks seem to be well made, at least decent performers and reasonably price. The finish on the backs of the blocks at least to me look great no swirling tool marks like I have seen on other company's block. It may not effect much I'm not an expert in that reguard but to me the backs of the koolance blocks look more professional. I'm not saying ignore the past completely, if you have a concern do you homework and make sure of what your are getting, but that same rusted screw cap picture is getting old.
Well, they guarantee there is no more steel plugs, if you are OK trusting them you could buy one block and check the plugs with a magnet.
If they are steel just RMA the thing back.
:toast: that is a great idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by leo_bsb
People STILL haven't learned to stay the hell away from Koolance like a bad plague?
Hmm... in time, everyone will I guess...
Steel is listed as a component. I've emailed Koolance and asked for clarification.
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I am interested to see what they say. There is still alot of koolance bashing here from their heavy aluminum days, but I feel they are making progess and improving greatly. All the issues and ill feelings will not go away overnight. I would rather see them improve, the more options we have in WC parts will only help us as they drive costs down and encourage competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Zero
No word from Koolance, yet. Surprise.
I'll give them until Tuesday to respond to a very straight-forward email.
After that, it's never-again Koolance.
:rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Zero
why wait on a repy they lied to me when they said my tee was brasss plated nickle . if the're gonna lie once then they will do it agin
TrUST US
don't USE Koolance
ya ...ya... might save a few bucks with them but is your system worth more than a few bucks ? & do u really save anything if the parts turn bad & have to be replaced ?
heh..
guys you really need to check out the DD block.
Let me just tell it to you straight. It was the least trouble free block ive had ever being FC on mounting.
LEAST trouble-free block?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
Yeah some people just can't learn to separate the forum chaff (the Koolance hater posts) from the facts. Oh wait, that would be you! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
Right now I don't know of many cooling products that approach the quality of the new Koolance parts. Sometimes there are mistakes, that's why there are warranties. But you can't fault their current products (unless you mistake an OLD version for a NEW version or use water as your coolant... O.o)
As for the video card blocks, they kick ass, plain and simple. Excellent cooling, looks and all in a single slot design. They also provide replacement card slot connectors to turn the two slot card into a single slot card. That is attention to detail.
Enjoy your koolance crap..They will never make near my pc...
I smell fanboy or employee !Quote:
Originally Posted by santiagodraco
Ok, so buy something from a company with a pretty bad rep all things considered, wait for your plugs to arrive, hope that they didn't send you the steel ones which they don't even sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickCain
Check them when they arrive, if any are steel, initiate an RMA, wait for confirmation, return old plugs, wait 3 days to arrive, get new ones in another 3 days, check for any steel ones again. If found, repeat prior steps.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather just buy from a company that won't try and bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: me and be done with it, even if I might wind up paying and extra $.50...
All you Koolance fanboyz ignore every single fact we present and glorify their customer service for replacing something that WAS NOT AS ADVERTISED.
I agree the plugs should be made in brass, but when I bought the 4870 FC block it was the first to hit the market and it cost $92.00, cheaper than every other FC on the market.
So I can live with two easily replaceable bad plugs. I call them and they sent me two new ones, this time the correct brass made. If they didn't send me I would bought 2 EK plugs and that is it.
The block is top quality and very well finished with great temps. I'm a fan boy... to my hard earned money. I did the guinea pig move on the block, I knew it could have some problems and I'm satisfied with the product after I solve the steel plugs issue.
Just don't create too much expectation with Koolance and they can surprise you sometimes. Just know what you are buying, get ready to solve the issues. I like the looks of the blocks and I'll buy another one, this time I'll buy 2 plugs from Petra's in advance. The final price will still be way cheaper than other blocks.
well, the problem i would run into is not having defined channels for the FC block to lay down properly on. I dont have a EK FC 4870X2, however cross comparing to all my other FC blocks, DD was by far the easiest.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
All i noticed andy was, i didnt have to fiddle with the block at all to allign up. It only slaps on 1 orientation and 1 style. And it alligns perfectly so installation was really nothing big.
:shrug:
It even uses the stock clamp system with DD screws to hold the block, which means less parts you lose on the original OEM sink.
Not that it matters anyways since ATI knows no such thing as life time warrenty like Nvidia. <oh and all ati cards void warrenty the moment you remove stock sink>.
But im seeing a 43C reduction from stock temps off a MCR220. So yes, you can run 2 HD4870's on 1 MCR220 and hold a differental of 2-3C on ambients. :D 2 HD4870X2 is asking for it on a single MCR220, however it would probably still yield lower temps then stock air sink. Not by much tho.
The real question is, wait for Gabe's 4870 X2 unisink, or get the DD FC block?
Naekuh,
Is the DD a true single slot block, like the Tieton Nvidia?
For that matter, is the Koolance a single slot block ?
Koolance is and comes with the single slot bracket. Mine will be here 9/17 and will know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
The DD FC block is going to perform better so it was a no brainer for me. I love my DD FC on my 4870x2.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathWalking
Explain that one to me? I was under the impression that cooling just the GPUs with water and the rest passively dumped a great deal less heat into the water, because you're not cooling the vregs with water, while still giving you superb GPU temps because of the MCW-60s on the GPUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blkout
Just because it comes with a single slot bracket does not mean it only occupies the space of one slot. Or even if the space below it is usable.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickCain
Then what is the definition of "single slot"?Quote:
Originally Posted by aspire.comptech
linkies
Koolance @ PPC
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24364
149.99 no nozzels
139.99 DD block with NOZZELS === DD FAT BOYS at that
http://www.dangerden.com/store/produ...&cat=47&page=1
this is intel to protect the innocent !
That's just it, you want the VREG's cooled by water, this isn't a Radeon 9800 Pro we're talking about here. The new generation of video cards, like the 4800 series and the GTX 200 series draw a lot of power and place a lot of strain on the VREG's. Air cooling with wimpy heatsinks just doesn't cut it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathWalking
If you manage to get your GPU temps below mine with a FC block I'll be impressed. However, I would think that 31c core temps with 38c VRM temps is about as good as you can get. You may see few degrees lower with a GPU only block but your VRM temps are going to be at least 20-30c higher than mine using air cooling and that simply isn't a good trade-off.
It means the card does not interfere with the slot below it in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickCain
Yeah continue to flog a dead horse :horse: Maybe if you post it 50 more times in the same thread someone will care.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
So, my question still stands. Are either the Koolance or Danger Den single slots designs? Can two cards be used next to each other, directly side by side, and still manage to fit in the stock back plate? This is kind of important to me, for reasons I'm not getting into.
Both are single slot, BUT the cards i/o bracket take up two slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by IanY
Hope i said that right :p:
The single slot IO brackets are either provided, or can be bought. At the worst, I'll take a saw to the brackets.
yes its a single slot design.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
However, you really dont want a card under there.
Don't have a choice. Two of them will end up practically kissing each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
{never mind, I've been told that the AMD/ATI cards can't be used to do what I want to do, so I don't have a choice but go Nvidia}
iany the pci slot is funky tho. Your gonna have a hard time finding one. Also the stock referene cooler connects to the pci slot thingy. It has 2 screws where the stock sink would fit, the waterblock removes them, but i dont recomend replacing the PCI slot. You dont have any other spare slots?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
its not your typical card slot.
Theres a middle circle plug thingy in between the two dvi.
Also you really want all 2 screws in that pci cover. The card is MASSIVE. I almost fell off my chair bench lifting the thing.
Thanks for advice, Naekuh, and also Menace2Society. The hunt for 4870 X2 is over. Cannot use AMD/ATI.
yeah i had a hard time thinking about it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
However iany think like i did.
You need 3x 16x pci-e. 2 for GPU and 1 for controller.
Now there is no such board with 3x16x unless i go skulltrail. :\
So you get the best single slot card solution you can possibly find, and use the second pci-e for your controller card. And i know the controller card is a MUST.
That is why i went single GPU Solution this time around. Also im tired of SLI, i run dual monitors, and i had hell with my HD3870 Xfire.
So this solution to me seemed the most comfortable with.
Well, I have the DD and it's single slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
Why is that? Is the throughput on the chipset so far inferior to that which you get on a controller, or is it some other reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
If you are talking about the I/O bracket it does not come with oneQuote:
Originally Posted by RickCain