DFI Lanparty JR P45T2RS (56k warning)

Hello everyone:) ,After about a week is i learned for OC feeling on lanparty JR and final i can get some impressive results from it with Micro-ATX from DFI :up:

Motherboard Pictures

Package & Bundled
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/1.jpg
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/2.jpg

Board Layout
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/3.jpg
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/4.jpg

4 Phase CPU PWM
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/5.jpg

4x DDR2 Dual-Channel, Support 667/800/1066MHz, Up to 8GB
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/6.jpg

Northbridge Heatsink
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/7.jpg
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/8.jpg

Southbridge, EZ Switch and SATA port
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/9.jpg
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/10.jpg

Expansion Slot, 2x Pci-e x8(gen 2.0), 1x Pci-e x1, 1x PCI 32bit
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/11.jpg

Back I/O Panel
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/13.jpg

For bios pics look at here >> CLICK (Pics by Johnny_Bravo)

Test Setup..

E8600 (Q820A346)@4.647GHz (580x8)
D-tek V2+HL480Extreme+MCP355+SS FM123
ASUS HD4870X2 Top CF@860/1050MHz
Crucial Ballistix PC6400 16FD5
Western Raptor
Gigabyte ODIN 1.2kW

Setup Pic
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/jrp45/14.jpg

Test Results..

Prime95 - Blend stop at 1.05hr :p
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea...i_JR_580-2.png

Pi32M Single
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

Pi32M Dual
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

Winrar
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

Everest Memory
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

CINEBENCH R10
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

PCMark05
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

All 3D Benched
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea..._JR_580fsb.png

Max Boost up from Bios @610MHz FSB
http://overclockzone.com/zolkorn/yea....png?id=374776

Best Regards
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Great board, great review!

Great review ZoLKoRn! I can't wait for mine to arrive :)

Your floppy disc looks fubar rofl

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Your floppy disc looks fubar rofl

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Huh? :confused: You got the right thread my friend?

The sliding protector on the disc looks a tad bent. :p:

Anyhoo we all know this mobo is awesome. Thanks for the photos and review!

Edit: Now i see it. Ouch i hope it didn't come like that!

Hey ZoLKoRn, how do you think the 4-phase PWM will cope with a 45nm quad? I've seen some nice results but can't help thinking that a few extra phases might be safer?

m-ATX hit ATX

So small and such a beast,gg DFI

best micro-atx mobo ever?

come on man dual core clocking is easy, anything can clock a dual core decently.
its quad cores thats hard (past 450mhz)

we wanna see some quad clocking.

QUAD QUAD QUAD QUAD,, come everyone chant with me.. QUAD QUAD QUAD QUAD

oh.. great OC results man. ;)
it makes the board seam more worth its price. but its still kind of pricey.

Quad numbers along with dual 4870 x2 cards would be nice

if i had a micro atx case i would defineatly get this board its such a beast from what i have seen..
great job with the review ZoLKoRn :up:
i have a request. could you show us some bios screenies too ??

Good start zolkorn and the 4870x2s really sit tight uh

Its sweet the keep using the nb/hp system with removal of nb cooler without breaking warranty, its awesome style

Looking forward to ln2 action

quad numbers would be nice, i have a JP LP P45-T2RS myself with a Q9550 but i cant figure out how to do a ".5" multiplier under bios

have you tried a ".5" multiplier yet? thanks in advanced

Thank you to all :)

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Originally Posted by twwen2

Edit: Now i see it. Ouch i hope it didn't come like that!

Hey ZoLKoRn, how do you think the 4-phase PWM will cope with a 45nm quad? I've seen some nice results but can't help thinking that a few extra phases might be safer?

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well i thought on 4phase PWM it will not problem with 45nm Quad but however i can't confirm is it will 100%

so waiting a moment now it on test base again with QX9650 and i'll come update ;)

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Originally Posted by Lestat

come on man dual core clocking is easy, anything can clock a dual core decently.
its quad cores thats hard (past 450mhz)

we wanna see some quad clocking.

QUAD QUAD QUAD QUAD,, come everyone chant with me.. QUAD QUAD QUAD QUAD

oh.. great OC results man. ;)
it makes the board seam more worth its price. but its still kind of pricey.

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I'll coming update soon for Quad ;)

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Originally Posted by Solarfall

if i had a micro atx case i would defineatly get this board its such a beast from what i have seen..
great job with the review ZoLKoRn :up:
i have a request. could you show us some bios screenies too ??

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Not problem m8 for bios screenies :up:

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Originally Posted by evil-98

quad numbers would be nice, i have a JP LP P45-T2RS myself with a Q9550 but i cant figure out how to do a ".5" multiplier under bios

have you tried a ".5" multiplier yet? thanks in advanced

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Yes on the JR P45 it can setting to .5x multiplier :)

sweet Zolk, do let us know how the quads clock.

Great work. Sub'd.

haven't even tried stressing it yet for max FSB
this was a simple setting i just threw in the bios.
OCCT stable
vdroop puts me at around 1.28v
so 0.03v droop is very nice with the limited stage voltage control it has.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2752/q9650p45jrsx8.jpg


i was able to boot and OCCT for 2 minutes at 465 FSB. OCCT gave me an Error 1 (what ever that means.) at 1.55 NB, 1.35 FSB VTT, and 3.60v Clockgen
not sure what i need to adjust to make it stable, but this is VERY similar to what i have seen most full size ATX boards do with quads.
once you get above 450~460 FSB things get really sketchy on a quad and take usually alot of tweaking.

there is also an Advanced Bios Tweaking if you hit F9 on the main bios page, this opens up all the clock Skew controls and tons of ram stuff which i am not even going to touch.

It’s nice to see DFI joining back in with some enthusiast level products.

the latest 09/01/2008 bios implements VCORE DROOP COMPENSATION!!!!
DISABLE IT to get ZERO droop
WOOT!!!

it still isnt a very good board for ME. even with an E8500 which can run 4.7ghz i cant even boot past 450mhz FSB no matter what i do.

we've asked several times for people to post their bios settings, does no one want to share ?

Ah nice, they just posted 09/01/2008, I have been using 09/12/2008 beta, must be the final of it since it also has the vdroop option. There is still .03v droop but that is normal. Will give 09/01/08 a try this eve.

You are going to have to tweek the F9 settings to boot at high FSB, it seriously took me 3 weeks of work to get anything out of this thing and everyone's optimal settings are totally different (even with the same CPU/mem). Mess with GTL first and then move to CPU and mem skews.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the latest 09/01/2008 bios implements VCORE DROOP COMPENSATION!!!!
DISABLE IT to get ZERO droop
WOOT!!!

it still isnt a very good board for ME. even with an E8500 which can run 4.7ghz i cant even boot past 450mhz FSB no matter what i do.

we've asked several times for people to post their bios settings, does no one want to share ?

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Nice review! And nice board...I really like it, can you say if can run 500fsb stable w/ no increase in nb core with E8400? On air of course..and no active cooling

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Ah nice, they just posted 09/01/2008, I have been using 09/12/2008 beta, must be the final of it since it also has the vdroop option. There is still .03v droop but that is normal. Will give 09/01/08 a try this eve.

You are going to have to tweek the F9 settings to boot at high FSB, it seriously took me 3 weeks of work to get anything out of this thing and everyone's optimal settings are totally different (even with the same CPU/mem). Mess with GTL first and then move to CPU and mem skews.

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there is ZERO vdroop if you set the vcore droop setting to disable, if you leave it enabled, like the asus mobo's the vdroop is normal.


and i will ask again please someone post their bios settings.
the F9 settings are totally wako, way different than other boards i have seen and settings i have never had to mess with to get other boards to boot up at 500+ fsb.

someone throw this ol dog a bone here please.

sweet board!

I had this board. At 375mhz FSB, the system was completely unstable, random BSODs, or hard locks, or it just would restart when it tried to load windows.

Yeah it seems these things are very inconsistent.

This bios setting for 580FSB on E8600 :)

my board is very unstable also.
i do not like it
its a Rev A3 P45 (per cpu-z)

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I had this board. At 375mhz FSB, the system was completely unstable, random BSODs, or hard locks, or it just would restart when it tried to load windows.

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stop running 4 sticks of ram for starters.
next stop going up in so little fsb steps.
just slam the fSB to 400 then 450, them after that with a quad its really hard, you need to do alot of tweaking.
set vcore accordingly. maybe +.250mv (just to try it, then lower or raise it if you need to)
Just to start with try these settings.
set Nb to 1.45 and CPU VTT to 1.33v (those are bios settings. the actual reading will be a little lower but thats ok)
All 3 GTL voltage settings just leave at .67x (just to get your system running.)

set ram divider to 333/667 or 333/800
you can use 400/800 also as its a really loose setting and lets quads clock higher.


also the bios is supposed to let you use the Home button on your keybaord as a last known good boot setting incase the system doesnt want to boot, and
Insert as a Clear CMOS,
has anyone gotten those to work, i have never been able to make those work for me...

Some tried playing with QX9650 on it :)

Max FSB @485MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=428019
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.ph...8019&nocache=1

Spi 1M@460fsb
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/249...650jpgmwk8.jpg

Everest Mem-BW
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5...rqx9650ol3.jpg

Aquamark
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8...650jpgmns5.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lestat

stop running 4 sticks of ram for starters.
next stop going up in so little fsb steps.
just slam the fSB to 400 then 450, them after that with a quad its really hard, you need to do alot of tweaking.
set vcore accordingly. maybe +.250mv (just to try it, then lower or raise it if you need to)
Just to start with try these settings.
set Nb to 1.45 and CPU VTT to 1.33v (those are bios settings. the actual reading will be a little lower but thats ok)
All 3 GTL voltage settings just leave at .67x (just to get your system running.)

set ram divider to 333/667 or 333/800
you can use 400/800 also as its a really loose setting and lets quads clock higher.

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I already returned the board. Also, I had been using the EXACT settings you're referring to. When I was testing, I only had 2 sticks installed, so it shouldn't have been a RAM limitation. I might have only been using 1.4v on the NB, but still, 375mhz should have given me a problem because it was too small a step up?

Hello I am new in the Xtreme Forum.
I've bought this mobo recently and I'm very happy with it. Q6600 G0 @3,2GHz at stock voltage and 3,6GHz at 1,4V 24/7. I've been using Matrox 4MB, and its time to move up to some 4870 CF or 4870x2 due to the limitted space between the cards. Is the x8 PCI-E slow for such cards? Have you made some tests between x16x16 and x8x8?

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Originally Posted by mecho_gruh

Hello I am new in the Xtreme Forum.
I've bought this mobo recently and I'm very happy with it. Q6600 G0 @3,2GHz at stock voltage and 3,6GHz at 1,4V 24/7. I've been using Matrox 4MB, and its time to move up to some 4870 CF or 4870x2 due to the limitted space between the cards. Is the x8 PCI-E slow for such cards? Have you made some tests between x16x16 and x8x8?

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shouldn't be too bas to be honest as its pcie Gen2 so pcie 2 x8 = pcie 1 x16

so wont be too much of a hit if atall

anyone use sunbeam core-contact freezer as cooling with this board?
how? can fit nicely?

thanks for those bios settings ZoLKoRn - i'll give them a try and see what i can get out of it

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Originally Posted by xixo_12

anyone use sunbeam core-contact freezer as cooling with this board?
how? can fit nicely?

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Yep i tried too and meet problem same as you sure for can't install mounting kit :) but if you need to used it you should change top NB heatsink to TR-HR05 or Noctua NC-6 ;)

btw. i'll take photo for you later :)

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Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn

Yep i tried too and meet problem same as you sure for can't install mounting kit :) but if you need to used it you should change top NB heatsink to TR-HR05 or Noctua NC-6 ;)

btw. i'll take photo for you later :)

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i'm waiting for your picture, i just wonder it will fit or not, because currently i'm not own it, but in future i might grab one..

that mean with the caps at PWM are will not have any problem, so it's just NB height is the problem, am i right?:)

Well after i tried to install Core-Contact Freezer on JR-P45 after replace stock NB heatsink so it can't install same time for place to HR-05 or Noctua :( but if place to some zalman NB heatsink it work! and you can see from picture but it need some saw little fin about two row :D

btw. i think if change to HR-05 SLI it'll can install Core-Contact Freezer maybe :)

Thanks man for the picture, look cool..:D
cutting the heatsink.. but it still work perfectly.:clap:

Thanks for the bios screens, I'm trying to hit 500x8 with my E8400/DFI Jr and was having some issues.

I'll give these settings a shot.

oho!!!! ZoLKoRn ^^

DFI LP JR P45-T2R, 10/07 BIOS
500x8, Memory 1000MHz
E8600
2x2GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ 1000MHz 5-5-5-15
SAPPHIRE 4870
OCZ Core SSD
Orange Slots Used For Memory

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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode............................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown after AC loss....................Enabled
AC Shutdown free..........................Enabled
O.C. Fail Retry Counter...................1
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload.....................Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio........................... 8x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude....................... 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew........................... 100ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................  0ps
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.908V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.55V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.3075
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.10V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................0.67X
CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt......................0.67X
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................0.61X
FSB Vref..................................  2A

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below

Flex Memory Mode..........................Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................48
Performance Level.........................9
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................5

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DLL and RCOMP Settings  .................Auto
Ch1 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 3
Ch2 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 3
RCOMP Setting.............................Model 1

Fine Delay Step Degree....................70ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 2396ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 2396ps
Ch 1 Control0 fine delay..................Current  268ps
Ch 1 Control1 fine delay..................Current  268ps
Ch 1 Control2 fine delay..................Current  268ps
Ch 1 Control3 fine delay..................Current  268ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current  394ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 2066ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 2066ps
Ch 2 Control0 fine delay..................Current  48ps
Ch 2 Control1 fine delay..................Current  48ps
Ch 2 Control2 fine delay..................Current  48ps
Ch 2 Control3 fine delay..................Current  48ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current  393ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

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Awesome Praz!

I didn't have much luck over 440FSB on my JR, so i'll give these settings a shot. :up:

Try lowering GTLs if you run into trouble early on. The E8400 I put in there didn't like 445*9 at first, but when I set GTLs to 0,63x instead of 0,67x while leaving the VTT at 1,1V it worked like a charm. Also running 2x2GB@1066 with only 1,34V NB set in bios.
I really like the board, just 1 issue: You MUST disable EIST (speedstep) it's buggered.. if you enable it, the DFI will substantially raise the Vcore if loaded (like 1,2V bios setting, load >1,3V). Really annoying.

@ZoLKoRn: try using the Xigmatek Porter, maybe it will work.

@Praz: thanks for the bios settings! :up:

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Awesome Praz!

I didn't have much luck over 440FSB on my JR, so i'll give these settings a shot. :up:

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Good luck. Hope the settings are of some help.

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Originally Posted by jcool

You MUST disable EIST (speedstep) it's buggered.. if you enable it, the DFI will substantially raise the Vcore if loaded (like 1,2V bios setting, load >1,3V). Really annoying.

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As the screenshots show I had no issue with SpeedStep.

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Originally Posted by emoners

@Praz: thanks for the bios settings! :up:

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You're welcome.

I tried with 2 CPUs, E8400 E0 and E7300 M0. Both showed the same strange behaviour (load Vcore 0,1-0,15V above bios setting!) with EIST enabled. C1E enabled gives no problems.
Bios used was shipping bios, which seemed to be newer than the one offered on DFis own website. After I flashed to the bios on the DFI page, the Vdroop control feature was gone, so I re-flashed the other bios (09 something).

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Originally Posted by jcool

I tried with 2 CPUs, E8400 E0 and E7300 M0. Both showed the same strange behaviour (load Vcore 0,1-0,15V above bios setting!) with EIST enabled. C1E enabled gives no problems.
Bios used was shipping bios, which seemed to be newer than the one offered on DFis own website. After I flashed to the bios on the DFI page, the Vdroop control feature was gone, so I re-flashed the other bios (09 something).

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Might want to try another BIOS. 10/07 I used for the screenshots doesn't appear to have the issue. I do have VDROOP set to "Disabled" but that was a mistake on my part. I was doing some other testing and forgot to change it back to "Enabled" when I did those benches.

I now have the 10/30 BIOS loaded and VCORE is fine with it when both EIST and C1E are "Enabled" regardless of VDROOP setting.

How hard was it to achieve that stability Praz?

I was told 600FSB on air is easy, I would like to see what dream world that is true in.

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How hard was it to achieve that stability Praz?

I was told 600FSB on air is easy, I would like to see what dream world that is true in.

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If it wasn't for having to manually set FSB Vref I'd say real easy. Just too many choices there if the user doesn't have an idea where to start at. I haven't tried any higher FSB. Will do so in the next day or so. As to how easy 600 FSB is most likely depends on star alignment and a few other mystic powers. lol.

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Originally Posted by Praz

Might want to try another BIOS. 10/07 I used for the screenshots doesn't appear to have the issue. I do have VDROOP set to "Disabled" but that was a mistake on my part. I was doing some other testing and forgot to change it back to "Enabled" when I did those benches.

I now have the 10/30 BIOS loaded and VCORE is fine with it when both EIST and C1E are "Enabled" regardless of VDROOP setting.

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Nice. Will update bios once the rig is back from reviewing, right now it's busy kicking butt and conquering the PC World Toplist :wasntme: :up:

Very nice work Praz :up:

Thanks ZoLKoRn. For what this board is this is probably the sweet spot for it. Maybe bump the memory divider up if one has memory that will run 1200MHz.

DFI LP JR P45-T2R, 10/30 BIOS
550x8, Memory 1100MHz
E8600
2x2GB OCZ PC2-9200 Flex II 1050MHz 5-5-5-18
SAPPHIRE 4870
OCZ Core SSD
Orange Slots Used For Memory

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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode............................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown after AC loss....................Enabled
AC Shutdown free..........................Enabled
O.C. Fail Retry Counter...................1
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload.....................Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio........................... 8x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled
CPU Clock.................................550 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude....................... 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew........................... 200ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................  0ps
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Special Add.......................+175.0mV
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.957V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.55V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.3575
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.18V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................0.67X
CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt......................0.67X
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................0.61X
FSB Vref..................................  2A

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below

Flex Memory Mode..........................Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................54
Performance Level.........................10
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................13
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................5

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DLL and RCOMP Settings  .................By Menu
Ch1 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 5
Ch2 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 5
RCOMP Setting.............................Model 0

Fine Delay Step Degree....................70ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 2476ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 2476ps
Ch 1 Control0 fine delay..................Current  472ps
Ch 1 Control1 fine delay..................Current  472ps
Ch 1 Control2 fine delay..................Current  410ps
Ch 1 Control3 fine delay..................Current  394ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current  472ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 2492ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 2428ps
Ch 2 Control0 fine delay..................Current  442ps
Ch 2 Control1 fine delay..................Current  442ps
Ch 2 Control2 fine delay..................Current  346ps
Ch 2 Control3 fine delay..................Current  332ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current  442ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

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Nice results again Praz :up:

btw. please try timing auto for sub-timing and only setting for main timing(5-5-5-15) i think you'll met better performance over custom setting on sub-timing ;)

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Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn

Nice results again Praz :up:

btw. please try timing auto for sub-timing and only setting for main timing(5-5-5-15) i think you'll met better performance over custom setting on sub-timing ;)

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I'll post an Everest screenshot with auto settings a bit later.

Very nice results Praz...i'm getting there myself...4.2GHz is perfectly stable for me, struggling to get 4.3GHz good for 24/7...might wait until I setup my h2O.

Possible to get screenshots or a list of all voltages set to hit 550x8? I wanna make sure I'm not missing out on something with the board so I can figure out if it's voltages/settings with the mobo or CPU holding me back.

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Very nice results Praz...i'm getting there myself...4.2GHz is perfectly stable for me, struggling to get 4.3GHz good for 24/7...might wait until I setup my h2O.

Possible to get screenshots or a list of all voltages set to hit 550x8? I wanna make sure I'm not missing out on something with the board so I can figure out if it's voltages/settings with the mobo or CPU holding me back.

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Thanks. All voltages are shown in the BIOS screenshots and are also listed in the BIOS template.

So they are...thanks a bunch. :up:

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So they are...thanks a bunch. :up:

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You're welcome.

And now with those settings in hand I'm benchmarking @ 4.4GHz on air...thank you so much!

All that's left is to setup a 120.2 loop for the CPU and push for that little bit more. :up:

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And now with those settings in hand I'm benchmarking @ 4.4GHz on air...thank you so much!

All that's left is to setup a 120.2 loop for the CPU and push for that little bit more. :up:

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Good to hear. I've manage to bump thing up a bit more. The board is real close to setting a new standard for 24/7 use.

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Good to hear. I've manage to bump thing up a bit more. The board is real close to setting a new standard for 24/7 use.

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It's an amazing piece of work...I love this thing!!!

definitely the best mATX board ever, imagine if DFI come up with X58 Core i7 mATX board this would be EPIC :shocked:

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Originally Posted by Envy

definitely the best mATX board ever, imagine if DFI come up with X58 Core i7 mATX board this would be EPIC :shocked:

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That's what I'm gonna have to wait for, I'm investing a lot of time in my Silverstone TJ08 mATX case. Sort of a good thing because my the time there are decent mATX boards on the market the chipset has usually matured a decent amount and I won't be stuck as a guinea pig.

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definitely the best mATX board ever, imagine if DFI come up with X58 Core i7 mATX board this would be EPIC :shocked:

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DFI did plan to have the LP JR X58-T3H link

http://images.tweaktown.com/imageban...e-01a_full.png

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DFI did plan to have the LP JR X58-T3H link

http://images.tweaktown.com/imageban...e-01a_full.png

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Is it just me or does that link not have anything to do with a DFI X58 board???

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Is it just me or does that link not have anything to do with a DFI X58 board???

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ya it doesn't but the pic shows of upcoming x58 boards...including DFI's X58 JR

Nice...I didn't even see that.

Looks like my little TJ08 will have some upgrades in it's future. :D

awesome news "DFI x58 Core i7 mATX" :slobber: seems like DFI is the only company bringing mATX to X T R E M E, i wish ASUS Gigabyte and others will pick up the idea for some serious competition "where is the ROG mATX? :shrug:" do they think all gamers like 24 inches tall cases?. in my opinion DFI Lanparty JR P45T2RS is for now at the top of the list for Lanbox.

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awesome news "DFI x58 Core i7 mATX" :slobber: seems like DFI is the only company bringing mATX to X T R E M E, i wish ASUS Gigabyte and others will pick up the idea for some serious competition "where is the ROG mATX? :shrug:" do they think all gamers like 24 inches tall cases?. in my opinion DFI Lanparty JR P45T2RS is for now at the top of the list for Lanbox.

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And that's what mine is. I'm working at designing a completely internal watercooling loop for the CPU using a 120.2 rad to fit in my mATX TJ08...and knowing that I could move to DFI's X58 mATX board and pickup a second GTX260 is amazing!!!

DFI LP JR P45-T2R, 10/30 BIOS
575x7.5, Memory 1152MHz
E8600
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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode............................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown after AC loss....................Enabled
AC Shutdown free..........................Enabled
O.C. Fail Retry Counter...................1
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload.....................Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio........................... 7.5x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Enabled
CPU Clock.................................575 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude....................... 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew........................... 200ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................  0ps
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Special Add.......................+137.5mV
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.001V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.55V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.4075
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.26V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................0.67X
CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt......................0.67X
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................0.61X
FSB Vref..................................  2A

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below

Flex Memory Mode..........................Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................Auto
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................8
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................60
Performance Level.........................10
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................8

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DLL and RCOMP Settings  .................By Menu
Ch1 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 5
Ch2 DRAM Default Skew.....................Model 5
RCOMP Setting.............................Model 0

Fine Delay Step Degree....................70ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 2476ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 2476ps
Ch 1 Control0 fine delay..................Current  472ps
Ch 1 Control1 fine delay..................Current  472ps
Ch 1 Control2 fine delay..................Current  410ps
Ch 1 Control3 fine delay..................Current  394ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current  472ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 2492ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 2428ps
Ch 2 Control0 fine delay..................Current  442ps
Ch 2 Control1 fine delay..................Current  442ps
Ch 2 Control2 fine delay..................Current  346ps
Ch 2 Control3 fine delay..................Current  332ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current  442ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

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Might want to try another BIOS. 10/07 I used for the screenshots doesn't appear to have the issue. I do have VDROOP set to "Disabled" but that was a mistake on my part. I was doing some other testing and forgot to change it back to "Enabled" when I did those benches.

I now have the 10/30 BIOS loaded and VCORE is fine with it when both EIST and C1E are "Enabled" regardless of VDROOP setting.

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Where do I get the 10/30 bios?
I downlaoded latest bios from DFI (it's the 10/07 I think) and the issue is still there.
As soon as EIST is enabled, it raises the Vcore to 1,39V when loaded (idle is 1,23-1,24V like it should be). Tried with Vdroop control enabled and disabled.
EIST off and it's 1,23V regardless of C state (running the E0 E8400 at 4Ghz).
C1E always enabled...

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Where do I get the 10/30 bios?
I downlaoded latest bios from DFI (it's the 10/07 I think) and the issue is still there.

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DFI's site - Beta section
10/30 BIOS

Thanks.. will try tomorrow. Apart from that the mobo passed every test I could think of with flying colours. I only had to lower GTL refs to 0,63.. the E8400 hated the stock GTL settings (0,67) of the mobo :shrug:

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Thanks.. will try tomorrow. Apart from that the mobo passed every test I could think of with flying colours. I only had to lower GTL refs to 0,63.. the E8400 hated the stock GTL settings (0,67) of the mobo :shrug:

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You're welcome. Hopefully you see better results with that BIOS.

Well, if EIST would work, the whole rig would consume approx. 50W less while in idle. Subsequently, temps would go down, which in turn means lower fan rpm.
If only they would have implemented some sort of fan control (no, CPU fan only is NOT a fan control...). If I had to pick 1 point I don't like about this board, it would have to be the lack of fan control capabilities.
This is when I wish Abit wouldn't leave the market...

Oh i love this little thing, but how stable is the vcore? Is it "Commando VCore", or is it pretty stable with only 4 phase.

With Vdroop control disabled, the Vcore doesn't move 1 bit like on the "big" 8 phase X38/X48 UT/LT boards. Idle = load Vcore, at least with the E8400@4Ghz.

Nice, then its this or the ud3p, need a mono to keep my ddr2 rig alive. Any sugestions?

I am happy to report that EIST works correctly with the latest 10/30 beta bios. 1,15V idle/1,23V load now.

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I am happy to report that EIST works correctly with the latest 10/30 beta bios. 1,15V idle/1,23V load now.

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Good to hear you got it sorted. If you use C1E/EIST with Vista don't use the Balanced Power plan and the x7 multiplier together. A bug causes the multiplier to stay at x6. All other multipliers work as does changing the power plan to Performance.

Thanks. I only use E8400's at max mult with this mobo tho.. got 5 DFIs in yesterday, all 5 gone already :D
Best E8400 needed 1,19V to do the 4Ghz, worst 1,29V. All liked the 0,63x GTL ref/1,10V VTT combination for FSB 445.
I really like this mobo, no headaches really.

pics of DFI LP JR X58-T3H6 MicroATX Board

cant wait for that M-ATX board to come out

anything new on this mobo? BIOS, Quad and so on?