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09-01-2008, 10:55 AM
SF3D

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Back in business- ASUS 4870X2 CF /Rampage Extreme / E8600

Summer is over now and it is time to start benching again :D

This summer was really nice, cause I had three OC events. One here with Russian overclockers and AOCC 2008 in Hong Kong and MSI OC event in Amsterdam.

I didn't have much time to prepare before these runs, so they are my base scores for this autumn.

I bought this E8600 from local shop and I wasn't too lucky, but not the most unluckiest either :up:

Setup:
ASUS Rampage Extreme
ASUS 4870X2 CF
Gigabyte/ Club3D 4870 CF
G.Skill DDR3 2GB HZ (6-6-5-15)
Thermaltake Thoughpower 1200W

First I tested, what this setup can do on aircooling. CPU did 4.8GHz with 1.46V (real) and cards ~852/1050

Setup on aircooling:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00833/2650914.jpg

I got 129K in 03
Attachment 84586

Then some pictures:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00769/2650993.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00714/2650965.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00909/2650976.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00647/2651057.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00111/2651069.jpg

Then we have the scores:

This chip did 1M at 6.4GHz easily:
Attachment 84590

Aquamark was bit better with dual 4870 than 4870X2 if we look the MHz efficinecy:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00704/2651140.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00304/2651181.jpg

01 was fun to watch, (except Nature) with dual 4870. There is no tweaks at all, cause there was no point in that (850/1050 used):
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00581/2651207.png

3Dmark03 was nice to test with these new cards. No bugged scores here (850/1050 used):
;)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00825/2651236.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00817/2651245.jpg

05 is one of my favorites, but this time I had some troubles with GPU/mem clocks (800/970 used):
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00755/2651261.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00500/2651272.jpg

I had only 20L of LN2, so I had to make it quick. I had to test all 2D and 3D tests, so there was not too much time to bench one particular benchmark.

Now I will start to tune this setup and try some different cooling for the vgas soon :up:

Thanks for checking this thread!
09-01-2008, 11:02 AM
DeDaL

He he, very nice buddy, my congratulations :clap:

Why your Rampage looks like Striker II ? :D
09-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Harshal

Congrats on numbers man!! :up:
09-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Viss

Good to see benches from you again :up: Nice chip
09-01-2008, 12:11 PM
marmott

very nice scores :up:

I could see that the MSI benchtable is in the party too :D
09-01-2008, 12:17 PM
Astri

...... and you wasnt lucky?!?!
09-01-2008, 12:26 PM
xt0m

Nice numbers ..and nice ram too :D
09-01-2008, 12:30 PM
GLENBOY

nice going SF3D, do you have a modded bios which opens up ati overdrives max gpu clock as i'd rather use overdrive to overclock over 800 core but no asus top bios about for the x2 , i also got 129k on 03 at 4800 mhz not bugged score with cards at 840 core 940 mem with tight ram timings, annoying i am getting beaten by people running 4500mhz and cards at stock clocks :shrug:, :( unless you could share ;) you can alway PM them to me :hrhr:
09-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Oliver

Good work sf3d, your RE is not bad either

Keep pushing it
09-01-2008, 12:48 PM
nachthymnen

Nice to see you benchin again sf3d:up:
Really nice start!!!
In 2 weeks I hope to bench a rig very similar as yours:D
Just my Raddys are not very good ocers with stock cooler:(
09-01-2008, 01:00 PM
loonym

Very nice cpu for 'wasn't too lucky'!! Great runs, hope to see more soon :up:
09-01-2008, 01:32 PM
@@@@

in every OC project you have to have 2 things 1 is Luck to have a good binned product 2 is skills
I think you have both:up::up::up:
09-01-2008, 02:48 PM
Brandybuck

Well done SF3D great numbers:up: What's the real cpu vcore for 6.3ghz 3D benchable ?
09-01-2008, 02:50 PM
Nosfer@tu

Great job m8 :D

Show some FINPower :D
09-01-2008, 03:35 PM
ZoLKoRn

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

I bought this E8600 from local shop and I wasn't too lucky, but not the most unluckiest either

:eek: 6.4GHz AM3 benching from wasn't too lucky :D

Very nice results and nice start :up: waiting to see on sub-zero gfx ;)
09-01-2008, 10:44 PM
SF3D

Thank you all! It is nice to be able to bench again..summer was really hard time :D

Northbridge cooler is from Striker II Extreme like Dedal saw.
CPU Vcore was 1.99-2.02V during benchmarks. I was limited by motherboard, not by this chip when using CFX.

Next move is to find some better stability with two graphics cards and cool them down with LN2. I have 4 tek9's here waiting and I got two DIY bracket kits for these cards :up:

Single card LN2 runs can be done in a short time.

These scores are good base scores for me like I said earlier :up:
09-02-2008, 12:07 AM
Kinc

Very nice start! :toast:

144k with 6200MHz, 4870X2 CFX @ 870/1050MHz is not right. Lower cpu freq and 3870X2 CFX 1000MHz core scores around 140k (870MHz 4870X2 is so much more powerfull). Are you using 32 or 64 bits? Service pack 1? We need to find out why for some 4870X2 performance in 03 is about the same as 3870X2.
09-02-2008, 12:13 AM
G H Z

You've been busy SF, nice results man :clap:

Hey, your container base kinda looks like FM logo :D
09-02-2008, 12:27 AM
hipro5

NICE start M8....... ;) :up:

2k3 and 4870x2 under certain circumstances are NOT always react the same...
The VGAs clocks ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER as you have picked them.....You could put 870MHz core for example BUT it will be taken down to 750MHz (default) when the bench starts..... ;)
This happens NOT on ALL 4 cores of the 2 x 4870x2 VGAs.....

SAME HAPPENS ALSO with 2 x 4870s OR with ONE 4870x2.....

THE BEST is to open amdtool, overclock the master, close it, open 2k1 and pick NATURE, run the NATURE for about 2 sec and press escape, close 2k1, open amdtool and NOW put the other Core's frequencies in, RE-OPEN 2k1 and RE-RUN NATURE for 2 sec to confirm........THEN OPEN any 3DBench and bench it.....

PAIN IN THE A(R)SS overclocking CF or CFX isn't it?...... :(
09-02-2008, 12:51 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

NICE start M8....... ;) :up:

2k3 and 4870x2 under certain circumstances are NOT always react the same...
The VGAs clocks ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER as you have picked them.....You could put 870MHz core for example BUT it will be taken down to 750MHz (default) when the bench starts..... ;)
This happens NOT on ALL 4 cores of the 2 x 4870x2 VGAs.....

SAME HAPPENS ALSO with 2 x 4870s OR with ONE 4870x2.....

THE BEST is to open amdtool, overclock the master, close it, open 2k1 and pick NATURE, run the NATURE for about 2 sec and press escape, close 2k1, open amdtool and NOW put the other Core's frequencies in, RE-OPEN 2k1 and RE-RUN NATURE for 2 sec to confirm........THEN OPEN any 3DBench and bench it.....

PAIN IN THE A(R)SS overclocking CF or CFX isn't it?...... :(

Have exactly the same problem, happens even if I set in bios. Yes, CF still is a pain in the ass to overclock :)
09-02-2008, 01:16 AM
SF3D

Thanks Hipro5 and Kinc! I have to test this as soon as possible. It might be the reason for low CF scores. Single card is ok I think.
09-02-2008, 02:50 AM
T_M

Yep, noticed the same thing clocking with AMD GPU Tool, but all of a sudden my system decided it would play nicely and from then on it would always stay locked.
That was on XP btw.
09-02-2008, 03:50 AM
M3kk

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

NICE start M8....... ;) :up:

2k3 and 4870x2 under certain circumstances are NOT always react the same...
The VGAs clocks ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER as you have picked them.....You could put 870MHz core for example BUT it will be taken down to 750MHz (default) when the bench starts..... ;)
This happens NOT on ALL 4 cores of the 2 x 4870x2 VGAs.....

SAME HAPPENS ALSO with 2 x 4870s OR with ONE 4870x2.....

THE BEST is to open amdtool, overclock the master, close it, open 2k1 and pick NATURE, run the NATURE for about 2 sec and press escape, close 2k1, open amdtool and NOW put the other Core's frequencies in, RE-OPEN 2k1 and RE-RUN NATURE for 2 sec to confirm........THEN OPEN any 3DBench and bench it.....

PAIN IN THE A(R)SS overclocking CF or CFX isn't it?...... :(

Its not easyer to flash the cards with the max benchable clocks? :).

Nice scores SF3D!
09-02-2008, 04:23 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3kk

Its not easyer to flash the cards with the max benchable clocks? :).

Nice scores SF3D!

Yes it is...... ONLY if you DON'T install the CCC....... :)
09-02-2008, 04:52 AM
CCC

same problem though in flashing the cards and not using CCC

In theroy If you flash to the top bios 790/915 you would think if this happens the way say Hipro said it does 'throttling' it would yeild better results over that of the stock 750/900 bios every time bug or not sicne one bios is defualt alot higher than the other, but the results show that even using modded bioses like 850/950 and not using CCC this is still happening all the time also.

some things like gt4 nature, nature 01 and so on dont show this

and running 03 each test seprate and watching the gpu clocks in say rivatuner show no drop in speeds so you have to dig deeper to answer what is really going on here :(
09-02-2008, 06:19 AM
SF3D

Yes. We have to dig deeper to see what this is all about. I think that 03 will not scale with gpu power without any limit. There must be some limitation in that too --> ~145K scores seems to be quite reasonable, if we consider that fact.

It is hard to say what is the real reason at this point, but if I really run my cards at stock speed 750MHz or all three other cores at 2D clocks (500) my scores are even better then :)

I have to fix this before my next round.
09-02-2008, 08:15 AM
Solarfall

really nice benchies so far petri :up:... lol i wish i could afford your hardware i have to buy old crap to bench with :rofl:
09-02-2008, 08:24 AM
Zeus

Nice results man! :toast:

Where did you get bios 0501 for your RE?
09-02-2008, 10:51 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Nice results man! :toast:

Where did you get bios 0501 for your RE?

Send me your e-mail over pm and I'll send it to you.
09-02-2008, 11:36 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Nice results man! :toast:

Where did you get bios 0501 for your RE?

Probably from the guy in the office next to Kinc's :D
09-02-2008, 10:35 PM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solarfall

really nice benchies so far petri :up:... lol i wish i could afford your hardware i have to buy old crap to bench with :rofl:

We have to fix this someday. If you like to bench with some good HW, you just have to travel to my place in Tampere :up:
09-03-2008, 08:46 AM
xt0m

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

We have to fix this someday. If you like to bench with some good HW, you just have to travel to my place in Tampere :up:

qft! seeing his setup for the first time made me go O_o :rolleyes:
09-08-2008, 03:28 AM
SF3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by xt0m

qft! seeing his setup for the first time made me go O_o :rolleyes:

Haha :D

By the way everyone. My card clocks were not applied properly in these first tests. I know it now, cause I have a bit better performance and more lock ups :rolleyes:

Well, next round will be better of course. 03 is still the same for me, so I believe my new scores will be "normal" scores and these were the low ones.