Geforce 177.92 Beta-Driver up to 15% faster

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08-26-2008, 07:46 AM
Blacky

Geforce 177.92 Beta-Driver up to 15% faster
Source: Hardware-Infos

Release notes:
- Supports GeForce 6-series, 7-series, 8-series, 9-series, and 200-series GPUs, including the newly released GeForce 9800 GTX+, 9800 GT, 9500 GT, and 9400 GT GPUs.
- Adds support for NVIDIA PhysX acceleration on all GeForce 8-series, 9-series and 200-series GPUs with a minimum of 256MB dedicated graphics memory (this driver package installs NVIDIA PhysX System Software v8.08.18).
- Experience GPU PhysX acceleration in several full games and demos today by downloading the GeForce Power Pack.
- Adds support for 2-way NVIDIA SLI technology with GeForce GTX 200-series GPUs on Intel® D5400XS motherboards.
- Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI™ technology* on DirectX 9 and OpenGL.
- Supports CUDA™.
- Supports Folding@home distributing computing application. Download the high performance client for NVIDIA GPUs here and join the NVIDIA team: #131015.
- Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software.
- Includes several 3D application performance improvements. The following are examples of improvements measured with v177.92 WHQL versus v175.19 WHQL driver:
- Single GPU increases up to 11% in 3DMark Vantage (performance preset)
- Single GPU increases up to 11% in Assassin's Creed DX10
- Single GPU increases up to 15% in Bioshock DX10
- Single GPU increases up to 15% in Call of Duty 4
- Single GPU increases up to 8% in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
- 2-way SLI increases up to 7% in Bioshock DX10
- 2-way SLI increases up to 10% in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts DX10
- 2-way SLI increases up to 12% in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
- 2-way SLI increases up to 10% in World in Conflict DX10
- Includes numerous 3D application compatibility fixes. Please read the release notes for more information on product support, features, driver fixes and known compatibility issues.
- Users without US English operating systems can select their language and download the International driver here.
*Note: Quad SLI technology with GeForce 9800 GX2, 3-way SLI technology, and Hybrid SLI technology are only supported on Windows Vista.

Windows XP

32-bit

64-bit

Windows Vista

32-bit

64-bit

Best regards :up:!

Blacky
08-26-2008, 07:47 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Nice, needs testing. :p
08-26-2008, 07:48 AM
Warboy

I will be testing soon.
08-26-2008, 07:52 AM
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

I will be testing soon.

can you provide some feedback Warboy? thanks!
08-26-2008, 07:54 AM
Celcius

For once I'm going to wait until I see someone else's results before I download...:p:
08-26-2008, 07:55 AM
Warboy

Yes, as soon as My CHKDSK is done on my RAID drives, I'll do 177.83 vs 177.92, on my 8800GTX, 9800 GTX+ and GTX 280.
08-26-2008, 08:36 AM
jas420221

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

Yes, as soon as My CHKDSK is done on my RAID drives, I'll do 177.83 vs 177.92, on my 8800GTX, 9800 GTX+ and GTX 280.

there shouldnt be a difference between those drivers considering...

Quote:

The following are examples of improvements measured with v177.92 WHQL versus v175.19 WHQL driver:

well at least not the advertised difference...
08-26-2008, 08:54 AM
3NZ0

These are great drivers, been using them on my laptop for a while now and every game I've tested so far has had an fps increase and is just that little bit smoother at max settings. :up:
08-26-2008, 09:11 AM
Aleki

I just wish vista drivers would deliver smooth gameplay like on xp. I dont care about max framerates, that means crap. i noticed when i had xp64, there were no little blips or stutters while playing more demanding games. NFSPS ran silky smooth, but with Vista, i get occasional blips, which becomes very apparant on any racing games :(
08-26-2008, 09:18 AM
Chruschef

Its about time they start releasing some really good drivers, I've always thought the 200 series had more potential, and so did all of the other cards!
Go nvidia!, start retaliating to get your butt kicked by ATi.

Competition drives performance :up:
08-26-2008, 09:28 AM
revenant

yep.. I think keeping the minimum frame rate higher is more important.. for smooth play. :) none the less, i will have to give these a try!
08-26-2008, 11:43 AM
HotGore

Wow 99.03mb for drivers.
08-26-2008, 12:02 PM
JargonGR

FRAK! I hope this does not mean my 8800GTX SLI is not any slower than the 4870X2 (the first)I just got to replace it.
08-26-2008, 12:06 PM
Biker

Stability testing with Win XP SP3 ... so far so good ....

Edit: winxp SP3 with 179.83 + 8.08.10 physx VS 179.92 + 8.08.18 results:

GTX 280 primary @ 670/1458/1250 with 8800gtx physx ppu @ 626/1500/1000 (physx ppu not really utilised in this test, just giving current config):

COHOF built in perf test @ max details @ 2560 x 1600 :

179.83:

Min: 28.6
Avg: 56.1
Max: 61.0

179.92:

Min: 31.8
Avg: 58.4
Max: 61.0

Looking good so far .... :up:
08-26-2008, 12:12 PM
ShArKo

downloading now........I Will testing on Vista 64 Bits...........
08-26-2008, 02:49 PM
dengyong

Performance in crysis is the same as 177.89 for me. This driver seems a little more stable though.
08-26-2008, 02:59 PM
NaMcO

Nice, more drivers... Downloading, will post results ASAP.
08-26-2008, 03:05 PM
Fungus

XPSP3 32bit here, drivers seem to give about 1% performance boost for me.

Seems a bit more stable though.
08-26-2008, 03:21 PM
Epsilon84

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotGore

Wow 99.03mb for drivers.

Yeah its getting ridiculous, WTH is going on? Must be the Physx drivers or something...
08-26-2008, 03:48 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotGore

Wow 99.03mb for drivers.

I have some ATI drivers that are 100MB. I am not running my gtx 280 at the moment I'm still waiting on DFI to get dual 4870x2 compatibility working.
08-26-2008, 04:27 PM
NaMcO

Some results here:

Code:

Driver 177.83 177.92 3DMark 2006 Canyon Flight 105.339 fps 105.310 fps 3DMark Vantage GPU2 33.21 fps 33.22 fps 3DMark Vantage CPU2 132.58 fps 127.73 fps Crysis DX10 x64 High 19x12 39.39 fps 49.24 fps

3DMark vantage CPU2 score (Physics) seems to have lowered score (ran 3 times to check) and Crysis seems to have had a bit of a boost. I picked up the average fps from a 3 test run. I know these aren't reliable benchmarks, but i can spot some differences within my machine.
08-26-2008, 04:28 PM
Speederlander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleki

I just wish vista drivers would deliver smooth gameplay like on xp. I dont care about max framerates, that means crap. i noticed when i had xp64, there were no little blips or stutters while playing more demanding games. NFSPS ran silky smooth, but with Vista, i get occasional blips, which becomes very apparant on any racing games :(

Vista games run smooth as silk for me. No "blips" at all.
08-26-2008, 04:31 PM
Decami

wow look at the support list, we need more drivers like this to get ready for the Lucid Hydra chip, awesome.
08-26-2008, 06:30 PM
andressergio

In my case the 175.19 run much better than this ones on My Vista Ultimate SP1 64bits...

Cheers
Sergio
08-26-2008, 06:38 PM
Aleki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speederlander

Vista games run smooth as silk for me. No "blips" at all.

either its the extra bandwidth of your gpu, or your cpu's dont bottleneck the gpu. not sure what it is, but all games that are demanding stutter a bit more on vista64 vs xp64 with my config
08-26-2008, 08:06 PM
BulldogPO

I will test these with XP SP3 later today.
08-26-2008, 09:48 PM
Carfax

Games seem smoother with these drivers. :clap:
08-26-2008, 09:57 PM
ahmad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carfax

Games seem smoother with these drivers. :clap:

You mean the beta drivers finally make the card work right??

jk!

don't shoot :)

I am happy drivers are improving though. Maybe these will fix the issues I have had.
08-27-2008, 03:17 AM
Carfax

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

You mean the beta drivers finally make the card work right??

jk!

don't shoot :)

I am happy drivers are improving though. Maybe these will fix the issues I have had.

On max settings in a few games, I get the occassional lag between frames but with this driver, there's a significant improvement.

However, I just experienced a crash during gameplay, something which has never happened before so it seems these drivers aren't completely stable.

Oh well, they're beta so I shouldn't expect anything less I suppose.
08-27-2008, 03:29 AM
XS2K

They gave a nice 35FPS boost for me on average in COD4 on low-med settings now I can finally play @ 333FPS fluently.
08-27-2008, 05:05 AM
GoldenEye

WoW nvidia did there homework very good :)
08-27-2008, 06:13 AM
JohnZS

These are very good drivers :)
08-27-2008, 10:03 AM
Carfax

So I'm the only one with stability problems I suppose?

These drivers cause Gears of War to crash, which I suspect is due to the fact that Gears of War has PhysX support.

Does anyone know how to turn off PhysX in the drivers? I'm pretty sure this is the problem, as my other games are stable but I still need to make sure.

*Edit* Nevermind, found it.
08-27-2008, 10:34 AM
Warboy

177.83
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t/Untitled.png
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../Untitled2.png

177.92
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../Untitled3.png
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../Untitled4.png
08-27-2008, 10:35 AM
Sly Fox

Warboy, what exactly is that "CUDA-Z" application you have? It looks interesting.
08-27-2008, 10:38 AM
Carfax

Well, with GPU PhysX enabled using these drivers, Gears of War definitely crashes.....at least on my PC.

Hopefully Nvidia will have this issue sorted out in the full release version.
08-27-2008, 11:01 AM
initialised

Thanks, so this is where we need to start looking for the dreaded optimisations.

DX10 up DX9 down?
08-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly Fox

Warboy, what exactly is that "CUDA-Z" application you have? It looks interesting.

It's just a simple little program, you should be able to find it in the SuperPI on GPU thread.
08-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Psykocyber

Very nice drivers. COD4 is now playable with a FPS below 60.
08-27-2008, 12:52 PM
OliverM84

Vantage +350 Points vs. 177.83/89

Vantage: GTX280 @ 804/1620(1645)/2700, Q6600 @ 3825MHz

http://www.partypicssaarland.de/vers...GTX280/78s.jpg
08-27-2008, 01:02 PM
jmke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly Fox

Warboy, what exactly is that "CUDA-Z" application you have? It looks interesting.

google "cuda-z" the results might surprise you :clap:
08-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Sly Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

google "cuda-z" the results might surprise you :clap:

Sarcasm, cute :clap:

Back on topic...

I've been using these drivers for the last couple days for CoD4, TF2, and GRID. Overall I'd say performance is roughly the same, perhaps a few FPS boost at certain times. Nice drivers though, with how well developed G80 is, I'm surprised they're even able to improve it anymore.

That's one thing I'll give Nvidia... They make darn good drivers, their software team has my respect. It's their business practices over the last few years that I have a problem with.
08-27-2008, 01:28 PM
NapalmV5

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/897/57379866up0.jpg http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4135/88262429vx6.jpg http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8431/89803176dv3.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4641/gpuzoz4.gif
08-27-2008, 01:34 PM
RPGWiZaRD

Got a BSOD in nv4_disp.dll with these during a Unreal Tournament 3 session like with the other 177.xx drivers I've tried so I'm reverting back to the stable & nice 175.95 driver.
08-27-2008, 02:22 PM
Blacky

so far so good thanks for the feedback guys!
08-27-2008, 02:55 PM
VAdept

Ran a quick before and after with the built in Company of Heroes benchmark, DX9, custom settings and my scores were actually a little lower but within 1%. So no change really at least with CoH in DX9.
08-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Carfax

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

Got a BSOD in nv4_disp.dll with these during a Unreal Tournament 3 session like with the other 177.xx drivers I've tried so I'm reverting back to the stable & nice 175.95 driver.

Disable PhysX and I bet it won't BSOD.

The same thing happened to me in Gears of War, which also uses Unreal Engine 3.

The Unreal Engine 3 is PhysX capable, and for whatever reason, the GPU PhysX implementation in these drivers is FUBAR.
08-27-2008, 04:46 PM
Bellisimo

what about IQ?
08-27-2008, 05:19 PM
Epsilon84

Does anyone know how much enabling Physx impacts on framerates?
08-27-2008, 05:43 PM
Monkeywoman

i'm guessing these are leading up to the BIGBANG2.
08-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Biker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epsilon84

Does anyone know how much enabling Physx impacts on framerates?

When it starts crashing it impacts framerates quite seriously :D

Seriously though, it depends if you have a dedicated PPU:

When I had physx enabled and one card there was a hit, but with 2 cards it seemed ok...
08-27-2008, 08:47 PM
Mango31

Crashed the Physix part of Vantage for me (Vista 64, 8800 GTX). FSX crashed once, Crysis runs fine (with 177.79 it was the other way around).

All over the performance is slightly improved and i believe i can see a minimal better picture quality.
08-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Warboy

STALKER Clear Sky runs at 25 FPS at 1920x1080 on my GTX 280, on high settings in DX10. I wonder if this is normal.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...0-04-23-45.png

;)
08-27-2008, 09:05 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

STALKER Clear Sky runs at 25 FPS at 1920x1080 on my GTX 280, on high settings in DX10. I wonder if this is normal.

;)

That game is looking really good. Seems normal if the graphics look that nice. Is AA on?
08-27-2008, 09:06 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

That game is looking really good. Seems normal if the graphics look that nice. Is AA on?

I'm not sure, I can't read the game options.... :rofl:
08-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Epsilon84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker

When it starts crashing it impacts framerates quite seriously :D

Seriously though, it depends if you have a dedicated PPU:

When I had physx enabled and one card there was a hit, but with 2 cards it seemed ok...

I only have a single 8800GTS 320. You can turn off GPU Phsyx acceleration in the drivers right?
08-27-2008, 09:10 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epsilon84

I only have a single 8800GTS 320. You can turn off GPU Phsyx acceleration in the drivers right?

you can disable it via the physx panel.
08-27-2008, 10:40 PM
Solarfall

i tested these new drives with 2 8800gtx in sli in 3dmark 01 and 06, personally i got several hundred points worst numbers that with the older 175.19 in 3dmark 01... 06 score was pretty much the same
OS that i used was xp professional sp3..
08-29-2008, 12:49 AM
takamishanoku

Well just put these on. Best drivers for me yet. GOW runs the best out of any driver (and i've tried many), Crysis runs the same and IQ is great in general. TF2 has the best IQ yet (honestly check it out if you play the game) and as it's my main game these are def staying on. Vista 32, 8800GTX.

Now if the rumours are right with bigbang 2 media transcoding on my GPU, i won't even need to upgrade my trusty 4800+ for a wee while longer.
08-29-2008, 12:57 AM
OBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

I'm not sure, I can't read the game options.... :rofl:

aaaa russian pirate version
08-29-2008, 01:13 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

aaaa russian pirate version

what? :eh: :rolleyes:
08-29-2008, 01:36 AM
Fungus

I was dinking around with other benchmarks, and noticed 2D graphics test in Performance Mark was significantly improved over previous driver versions, like by 500% or more. I know 2D performance isn't much nowdays, but it's nice to see them finally stop neglecting GUI and 2D game performance. Performace on crystalmark is a little bit better too, but nothing like performance mark's gains.
08-31-2008, 05:01 PM
Eddie3dfx

Ran this on my nephews computer. I put a 7600gs in there for him. Runs Cod4 about 20% faster.
Thanks for posting this.
08-31-2008, 08:38 PM
hecktic

how would I force my Dell XPS M1530 to accept these drivers?
08-31-2008, 08:49 PM
Kai Robinson

Any idea how these would fare on an 8800GT?
08-31-2008, 08:51 PM
dengyong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Any idea how these would fare on an 8800GT?

They work great on the 8800gt...load em up.
08-31-2008, 11:15 PM
JohnZS

STALKER Clear Sky is not out yet :rolleyes:
Anyway I am still loving these drivers, lower temps than 177.41, fans return back to 40% after intense gaming and also nice performance increases across the board. Very good. I wonder what treats the "Big Bang" drivers have in store for us (hopefully more performance tweaks).
John
09-01-2008, 12:54 AM
largon

^
Russian Clear Sky was released Oct 22nd...
Euro version comes Sep 5th and US 15th.
09-01-2008, 01:32 AM
PurpleMonkey910

Crashes COD4 within seconds of level loading!
09-01-2008, 08:33 AM
dengyong

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleMonkey910

Crashes COD4 within seconds of level loading!

Are you sure you did a proper install ? Others are not having this problem.
09-01-2008, 09:56 AM
PurpleMonkey910

Quote:

Originally Posted by dengyong

Are you sure you did a proper install ? Others are not having this problem.

Yeah im sure, ill try reinstalling see if thaht helps